1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, the beef 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: between Mikayla Tester and Emily Hembro boils over at the 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Outback Steakhouse, Georgia Riches contemplates quitting social media, and Sarah's 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Day's injured thumb. For first Molly May has broken the 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Internet after strutting her stuff at the Laurel Paris Fashion Week. 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Amy I felt like a proud mum when I clicked 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story and saw that she actually made 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: it to the runway this time. Yeah, because she famously 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: turned down the opportunity just last year to walk in 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: the same show, and this was featured in her documentary. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Let's have listened to what Molly said at the time. No, 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: I had a baby recent name what you so recent? 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: It's not recently at all? Christianity two SAB's unbelievable, But no, 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: I just I couldn't be like. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Dress Maybe names chare not for me. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't relate more to what Molly said about being 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: postpartum and when do you stop counting yourself out as 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: being post part because I'm fifteen months and I'm like, 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: but still, it just seems like such a big life change. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting used to it. Yeah. Well she did what 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: every postpart of Mum normally does and she's gone the chop. 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: So that was the other thing that shocked people. She 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: strutted on the runway with this amazing bob. Oh it 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: looked so good. How many people are going to be 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: copying that hairstyle. I've got to put it out there. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I think Sophie may copy it. Oh, that's what I 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: was going to say, Like, when is Sophie booking into 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: the hairdresser to get that bob? It was this beautiful 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: like flick at the end, and I thought, is that 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: her real hair or is that a wig? But her hairstylist, 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: Jack Luckhurst, has confirmed so he was interviewed and he said, 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: we cut the bob because we wanted a wow factor 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: moment and also fancied a change with day to day styling. 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: This is easy for Molly to manage herself at home, 37 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: but also give such a new image for her and 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: me when creating new looks. I'm gonna call it. I 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: don't think Molly will keep it for that long. I 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: think she'll have extensions back in, maybe like a month. Yeah, 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and everyone should remember that who's thinking of coppying Moll 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: because she's got the coin to actually chuck those extensions 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: back in. I wonder if she was inspired by her 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: sister Zoe's big change, because she recently went brunette and 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: looks absolutely incredible. 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: I think this is more about marking a big identity change, 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: particularly because we know that this scene is going to 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: feature on her doco. I think this will be the 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: closing scene where they're like, Wow, in the last two 51 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: years we've been following Molly around and look at that 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: she's now up on the stage. She sees herself as 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: the person that all the audience sees her as, as 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: this glamorous, successful woman. Well, I bet Lorella wrapped because 55 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Molly is an ambassador for them, and apparently her contract 56 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: is worth seven figures, so they must be extremely happy 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: that this has made worldwide news. Now, before we get 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: into this story, we want to issue a trigger warning 59 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: as we touch on issues surrounding domestic violence. 60 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: I would like to deeply apologize to the Outback Steakhouse 61 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: for the disturbance that happened last Thursday night. We had 62 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: no idea this was going to happen, and me and 63 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: my partner absolutely love your restaurant and we are so 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: deeply embarrassed by what happens. 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: A dispute between Mikayla Tester and Emily Hembro has broken 66 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: out at Outback Steakhouse on the Gold Coast. The incident 67 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: comes off the back of the influencers publicly feuding online 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Now, the Outback Steakhouse seems like 69 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: a pretty good place for the influencers to have beef 70 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: pun intended. Before we get into the more serious nature 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: of this story, though, we need to talk about the 72 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: fact that this happened at the Outback Steakhouse. So after 73 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: everyone got over the initial shock of the incident, people 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: were like, what the hell Mikayla Tester and Emily Hembro 75 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: doing at the Outback Steakhouse. Mikayla even referenced it in 76 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: her video as her favorite restaurant on the Gold Coast. Now, 77 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: it isn't your typical influence a hotspot. No, I think 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: there'd be like a brawl at Tottis or somewhere like that. 79 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I know State Gold Coast doesn't have a Totties, but 80 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: the outback Steakhouse. This is like TGI Fridays or something like. 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect either of them to be seen dead there. Yeah, 82 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: for full transparency, we actually don't have an outback steakhouse 83 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: in Adelaide. Take a shop every time we say that 84 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: restaurant's name, So for anyone not familiar with it, it's 85 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: an American chain of restaurants that serves American cuisine in 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: an Australian demed atmosphere. Funnily enough, it was created by 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Americans who were inspired by the Crocodile Dundee movie. There's 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: around a thousand of these restaurants across twenty three countries 89 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: and as he said, it kind of gives me TGF 90 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Friday vibes. That's the sort of meals you get there, 91 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: like big Steaks. I'm still even more confused finding out 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: more about this restaurant that they would be there. I know, 93 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: it's bizarre. Now, aside from the jokes made about the 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: location of the incident, the argument was far from funny 95 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: because it actually stems from a very serious matter involving 96 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: the Hembro's half brother Honra time. Yeah. 97 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: So. 98 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Honra was arrested in July of twenty twenty four after 99 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: assaulting his then girlfriend, Charlotte Chant And while the matter 100 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: was before the courts, a number of online creators came 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: out in support of Charlotte and condemned the Hembros for 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: allegedly standing by their brother. So. Mikayla Tester was one 103 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: of the online creators who accused the Hembros of allegedly 104 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: bailing Honrey out of jail. So she went on to 105 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: claim that they enabled his behavior. 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: And after sharing that TikTok, Mikayla claimed that she was 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: sleeping with a knife and baseball bat next to her 109 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: bed as she was scared of Emily Hembro's husband, which 110 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: were pretty bold claims to make at the time. Off 111 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: the back of those claims, Emily spoke cryptically about how 112 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: she had been in discussions with her lawyer. So people 113 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: put two and two together and were like, she must 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: be serving her with defamation papers. 115 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 116 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: And at the time, Tammy was forced to publicly distance 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: herself from Honre, so she released a TikTok video saying 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: I have no contact with my brother. I haven't seen 119 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: my brother I'm not involved at all, in no way, 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: so I wanted to make that clear now. Following the 121 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: online drama. In June this year, honre pleaded guilty to 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: a number of domestic violence offenses, including common assault, stalking, 123 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: and two counts of strangulation. He was sentenced to three 124 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: years imprisonment, with parole commencing the day of the sentencing, 125 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: as he had been held in custody for almost a 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: year already. Now fast forward to this week, and McKayla 127 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: issued a public apology to the Outback Steakhouse after what 128 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: she called a disturbance took place involving her and Emily Hembro. 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: She took to TikTok to share that she was deeply 130 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: embarrassed about what took place. So from her account, it 131 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: seems like things escalated to the point where other diners 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: were getting involved and shouting. I'm surprised as the first 133 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: that we've actually heard online about it, considering it had 134 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: been five days since the incident took two sous. If 135 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: I were Sarah would have whipped my phone out so 136 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: quickly to film this argument. But maybe the people there 137 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: were just like families who had no idea who these 138 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: people bower that were arguing. Mikayla did extend the apology 139 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: to the families who were there. Michayla's video has gone 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: absolutely viral and at the time of recording, has over 141 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: four point eight million views. In terms of what happened, 142 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Mikayla said that she was lining up to order her 143 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: food with her fiance Max when she was approached by 144 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Emily Hembro and her husband. Mikayla alleges that Emily accused 145 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: her of spreading lies about her family and labeled Honrei's 146 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: victim Charlotte Chant a liar. Mikayla also claimed Emily threatened 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: to serve her with legal papers for deaf animation, but 148 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: when she called her bluff, Emily apparently backtracked and said 149 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: that she didn't have them with her. To be fair, 150 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: it's not like you're carrying legal documents around with you. 151 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: In terms of the defamation claims, this is what Michayla 152 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: said in her video. 153 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: Of course, I only speak truth and only speak things 154 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: that are truly coming from my heart. I have not 155 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: been sued for defamation by Emily Hanbreu as her husband 156 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: even admitted to me that night that they cannot sue 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: me for defamation, as I have not lied about them. 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: Everything that I've posted about Honore Thine or Honory Hanreul, 159 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: Emily Hambrew's brother is completely factual. 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Things that you can. 161 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Find on the internet, legal documents and court dates. 162 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: Now, Mikayla described the incident as a short screaming match 163 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: and tease that Emily may release footage from the incident 164 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: as she filmed the encounter. When I heard this part 165 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: of the story, I was like, Okay, so Michayla wants 166 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: to get on the front foot. This footage must not 167 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: be very flattering of her. Release the vision. I release 168 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: the vision. Yeah, I mean, Mikayla did admit that she 169 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: got quite agitated and was yelling back at Emily, well, 170 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: it's unfair sometimes, like if you're the person that's filming, 171 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: of course you're going to be a bit more subdued 172 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: because you know that this is going to be recorded. 173 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 174 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: And also Emily was the one that approached Mackayla and 175 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: kind of startled her. Mikayla mentioned that she really wasn't 176 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: in a good headspace at the time because one, she said, 177 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: she found out some really horrible news and two she 178 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: said she had just got her face lasered. I've had 179 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: my face lasered before, and there's no way I would 180 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: want to be filmed or and also yelled at this 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: is giving me awful flashbacks to when we saw Sarah's 182 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Day's husband Kurt Tills at a restaurant. This is, of course, 183 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: after we've spoken about them on the podcast for years 184 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and also reading between the lines, he threatened to sue 185 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: us for Yeah, the deep dive that we put out. 186 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: Got about that bit. To be fair though, this is 187 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: how I thought it would play out, but it didn't. 188 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: No one actually said anything, and everyone just well, that's 189 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: the funny thing about social media. Like Michayla Tester and Emily, 190 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: they're both very confident online, like Michayla's put all of 191 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: these videos out having a go at the Hambros. But 192 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: then when you actually see the person in real life, 193 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: it's very different. It's very awkward scene someone and actually 194 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: confronting them in person. Well, following the encounter, Mikayla labeled 195 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Emily as rude, mean, and horrible, and she went on 196 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: to accuse Emily of enabling her younger brother and suggested 197 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Emily was trying to believe in her brother's innocence as 198 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: a way to cope with the fact that he was 199 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: quote a horrible person. Now. After this outburst, Michayla said, 200 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: Emily returned to the table with her family, but her 201 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: husband stayed and spoke to her and Max. I was 202 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: pretty surprised because it was at this point that Mikayla 203 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: did a complete backflip about Emily's husband, and she admitted 204 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: that he was really kind, and Emily's husband explained to 205 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Mikayla that Emily was just trying to protect her family, 206 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: and he revealed that she would do anything for them. 207 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Mikayla also claimed Emily's husband confirmed that there were no 208 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: legal papers waiting for her, and she said she ended 209 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: up apologizing to him about what she originally said online 210 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: about him and shook his hand, and she confirmed that 211 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: he was the only one to condemn Honrei's actions. It 212 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: was pretty apparent that she wanted to put on the 213 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: record to the public that there was no beef between 214 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: them anymore. I found that really interesting, and I wondered 215 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: if that was an agreement that they came to that 216 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: she had to publicly apologize to human order to not 217 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: get served by the legal document because wild Mikayla is 218 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: adamant that she hasn't said anything defamatory around Honrei's case, 219 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: and she has got the truth defense with the sentencing 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: documents and all of the receipts that Charlotte Chant has 221 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: provided online. In terms of what she alleged about Emily 222 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Hembro's husband, I do think the Hembros had a leg 223 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: to stand on that it was defamatory. My other thought 224 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: perhaps is Emily said, look, we'll release this vision. That 225 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: doesn't make you look too good unless you actually go 226 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: on the record and take away those comments that you said. Well, 227 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: off the back of Mikayla's TikTok, Charlotte Chant shared her 228 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: own video hitting back at the alleged claims that she 229 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: was a liar. So she explained she received a FaceTime 230 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: call from Michayla about the incident, which left her shaking 231 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: and angry. She went on to show further receipts, which 232 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: included the sentencing papers and disturbing text messages that she 233 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: alleged was sent to her from honre Charlotte made a 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: point not to name Emily because she said she didn't 235 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: want to be sued now at the time of recording, 236 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Emily Hembrow is yet to release an official statement or 237 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: share the footage from the incident, but she has been 238 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: defending herself in the comments section of random TikTok accounts. 239 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: So a TikToker called Kayla Bruno's comment section blew up 240 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: after she released a video mocking the location of the fight. 241 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 3: Just working up from a what year is it? Noppen, 242 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: I've just seen that Mikayla Tester is punching on what 243 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: the Hambrow sisters. Yet again, that's not the part of 244 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: concerned about it. I quite like the drama. What I 245 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: need to know is what the fuck is out back steakhouse? 246 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: Are we talking like a bloomin onion American chain outback steakhouse? 247 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: What the fuck is Emily Hembro doing there to begin with? 248 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, the more I hear about the Gold Coast, 249 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: the more I fucking don't understand it now. 250 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Someone commented under the video send the papers, to which 251 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Emily responded, she left the country when I had them ready, 252 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: and now she has apologized about my husband to myself 253 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: and him and online publicly, so there is no need. 254 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: That's what I was mad about. Nothing else. Mackaylea then 255 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: joined the comments section and claimed that Emily had blocked 256 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: her so she can't see her comments. She went on 257 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: to say that she never apologized about making up lies 258 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: about Emily's husband. She said she apologized to Emily's husband 259 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: for saying that she was scared of him online and 260 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: that he seemed like a pretty reasonable guy in person. 261 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: She went on to say, I even clarified that I 262 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: thought her brother was x y Z and that I'm 263 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: not apologizing for anything else, she said. She then walked 264 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: out of the restaurant and told her to serve her 265 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the papers. She went on to write, let's hope she 266 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: posts the video in full, and I'll go and get 267 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: CCTV footage as well. Is it terrible that I really 268 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: hope that happens? Like I would love to see this vision. 269 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I think the Outback Steakhouse needs to jump on this 270 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: publicity and release the CCTV vision. I mean, they're already 271 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: getting a lot of free publicity. Why at milk it 272 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: for what it's worth? Okay, you haven't had a steak 273 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: for what? I can't like what thirty years? I can't 274 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: remember ever eating a Would you have a steak in 275 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: order to get this vision. Yes, I would, And do 276 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: you know what I say that? And I've actually lost 277 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: this bet before because I've been vegetarian since I was 278 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: fourteen and back when I was working with another job, 279 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I ended up having to eat a big mac after 280 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: losing a bet and I did it, so I will 281 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. So if you've got that vision out 282 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: Back Steakhouse and you want Kate to eat a steak 283 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: in order to get it, contact us. Hit us up 284 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: at Outspoken Underscore, the Underscore podcast. You can find me 285 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: with the Gold Coast to to eat it. It'll be 286 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: nice because we don't have one here in Adelaide now. 287 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: In a subsequent video, Caylet Bruno posted about the incident, 288 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Emily replied to another comment that accused her of calling 289 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: Charlotte a liar. She wrote, she also said in person 290 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: with many witnesses that Charlotte said she had met my husband, 291 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: which is false and a lie. That's what I was 292 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: referring to. Obviously, not my brother. We all know he 293 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: was guilty and went to jail. That's common sense. And 294 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: like I've said numerous times, I don't condone or support violence. 295 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: I also don't condone or support liars and online bullies. 296 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: There's a pattern with her content. It's pretty clear. It's 297 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how this plays out 298 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: online because we all know Mikayla Tester is definitely not 299 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: one to back down. Yeah, I am very interested to 300 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: see if Emily Hembro puts out anything officially. I think 301 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: she won't. I think she'll be hoping that this blows over. 302 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 5: I have been experiencing the worst logging fear, but I 303 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: am terrified to put up my camera most days. Terrified 304 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: sounds dramatic, and honestly it is, but it's how I feel. 305 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Gold Coast YouTuber Georgia Richards has revealed she contemplated deleting 306 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: her social media accounts and never going on the internet 307 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: again after struggling to cope with judgment online amy. Before 308 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: we get into it, can you give us some background 309 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: on who Georgia Richards is. 310 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 311 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mentioned last week that Georgia was one of 312 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: my favorite comfort YouTubers. So she's been sharing content on 313 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: YouTube for the last seven years. She's twenty seven years old. 314 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: She's got around one hundred thousand followers on YouTube and 315 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: seventy one thousand on Instagram. When I first came across 316 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Georgia's channel, I was hooked because she was just a 317 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: regular girl sharing her life. She worked at a coffee shop. 318 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: She shared about catching up with friends. There was also 319 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the interesting element of her being involved in the church, 320 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: so she used to start her days doing Bible versus. 321 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: And now I feel like I've been along the whole 322 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: journey with her because over the last couple of years, 323 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: she opened up about the fact that she is gay, 324 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: and she actually left the church. Was such a big 325 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: step for her. Yeah, and she's been really open sharing 326 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: her sexuality online. She's spoken about going on many dates 327 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: and also about her first girlfriend, which she got around 328 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: the end of last year. It was really brave of her, 329 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: considering what a taboo topic it would have been for her. Yeah, 330 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: and at the start of this year she got really 331 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: candid about her breakup. So this was with her first 332 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: ever girlfriend. And I really loved the honesty from Georgia. 333 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: I was glued and I really enjoyed vicariously living through 334 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: well not just the breakup, but her whole dating experiences. Well, 335 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I think there's something about a first breakup that majority 336 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: of people can relate to and you just I just 337 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: felt so sorry for her watching it, because you know 338 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: that the only thing that's going to heal that type 339 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: of pain is time. 340 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 341 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: And the thing with Georgia is she never actually shared 342 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: the full identity of her girlfriend. It was always like 343 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: the back of her head in vlogs or her arm, 344 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: like them hand in hand, but she never nsid her name. Yeah. 345 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: And so this week, Georgia revealed in a YouTube video 346 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: that she was really struggling with the judgment of others. 347 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: And she said that at the start of this year, 348 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: she shared so much about her life and now she 349 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: was having a lot of intrusive thoughts about shit. I 350 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: actually need to take my life offline because I can't 351 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: deal with people's judgment. Let's have a listen to what 352 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: she said. 353 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: My favorite part of being on the internet is just 354 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 5: feeling connected to people. However, in order to feel connected 355 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: to people, you have to be vulnerable, and that just 356 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: opens you up to so much hate and the wrong 357 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: kind of people seeing your stuff, and people not understanding you, 358 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: and people perceiving you in a way that is either 359 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: not accurate or just like people perceiving me in general, 360 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: just makes me extreme uncomfortable. I've talked about it in 361 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: therapy so much like in relationships, in deep friendships, but 362 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: I've just felt so like almost frozen in fear. I 363 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 5: just am so scared to do, say, post literally anything, 364 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: which I know, you know, anyone know. I know, it's 365 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 5: so silly. I've been trying so hard to shake it 366 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 5: because I work one of the coolest jobs ever. But 367 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 5: I am so lucky and I can Mary blessings every 368 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 5: single day because of all of the incredible opportunities and 369 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 5: freedom that this platform has given me. But oh my god, 370 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 5: the Internet has been so scary to me. 371 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: God, I felt so sorry for Georgia when I watch this, 372 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: because I think when you do put yourself out there online, 373 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: whether it's as an influence or a podcaster, you do 374 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit of a oversharing hangover. You're like, 375 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, I've put that out on the Internet forever, 376 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: especially when people are being assholes and going on riding 377 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: total life. I could judge shape with the rise and 378 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: popularity of sites like this. We've spoken about it before 379 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: on the podcast, but there are a number of threads 380 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: which exist about Georgia on Reddit and I had a 381 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: look at them and they were just mean. And I 382 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: think what you realize as you grow up a bit 383 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: is that these haters who are in the threads, there's 384 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: only a handful of them, Like Georgia would look at 385 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: those and go, oh my god, there's everyone hundreds and 386 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: hundreds of people who hate me. Actually it's probably just 387 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: three very sad people who have the time to comment 388 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: on the Reddit thread. Like there'd be so many people 389 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: who love watching her life, including me, and it's sad 390 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: that that's spoiling it for so many people because she's 391 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: not sharing as much as she would. Unfortunately, it really 392 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: is part and parcel of the influencer space, and I 393 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: think most content creators go through it where they discover 394 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: these threads about themselves, and unfortunately, the only way you 395 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: can really push forward is just to not look at 396 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: the stuff. Yeah, as hard as that is. Yeah, And 397 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: I think for a number of creators this kind of 398 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: hate it often kicks off once you reach around one 399 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand subscribers, and that's what's happened to Georgia. She's 400 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: got one hundred thousand subscribers now on YouTube, her following 401 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: is just increasing, and sadly it is just part and parcel. 402 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: But let's have a listen to what Georgia said, because 403 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: she spoke very honestly about how she feels about these haters. 404 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 5: It honestly annoys me because the mean, scary people of 405 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 5: the Internet who are actually just like really sad, lonely 406 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 5: people behind a screen, they're the ones that are ruining 407 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: it for the good people and like for me, And 408 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, you, you shouldn't hold that power. You shouldn't 409 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: like get to have that in you because like A, 410 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: I literally don't know you, and b you're just awful people. 411 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: I just really hope Georgia continues to share her life 412 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: online because while there may be a small corner of 413 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: the Internet that are being judgmental, I think that she 414 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: would have helped so many other people that have been 415 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: going through similar things in their life. Yeah, and she 416 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: noted in this YouTube video that that was one of 417 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: the main reasons why she started to share her life 418 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: on YouTube was because she didn't see people like herself 419 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: being represented. And it's a real shame that this is 420 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: potentially stopping other people being able to watch someone like Georgia, 421 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: like someone at home who might not feel represented can 422 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: actually align themselves with her, but hopefully she will continue 423 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: her content because I'm living for it at the moment. Yeah, 424 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: you always complained to me, like, can you believe she 425 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: hasn't released itv loog for two weeks? Now, I'm like, 426 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: I didn't actually know. Now I see why, because of 427 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: the fucking nasty people. 428 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 6: I just told the ligaments in my thumb and I 429 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 6: meant to be launching my biggest sixty day workout challenge 430 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 6: in ten days. 431 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Sarah's day has been thrown an obstacle. Just ten days 432 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: out from the launch of her fitness challenge. On Monday, 433 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: the fitness influencer announced she's torn the ligaments in her 434 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: thumb and will have to wear a splint for six 435 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: to nine weeks now. Sarah shared the story in a 436 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: pretty dramatic fashion on her Instagram. So on Monday morning, 437 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: she revealed to her one million followers that she was 438 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: waiting to get an X ray on her thumb. So 439 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: at seven that morning, she hyper extended her thumb all 440 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: the way back, causing suspected ligament damage. She said, as 441 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: soon as she heard the sickening crunch and felt the pain, 442 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: she knew there was something wrong. She was really coy though, 443 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: about how she actually hyper extended her thumb. She said 444 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: it was really embarrassing and teased that she would tell 445 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: the story later. As soon as he heard that, I 446 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: was like, I must know, like what were you doing? 447 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, she's got a baby, so I was like, 448 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: did it have something to do with him? I don't know, Like, 449 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: how could you possibly do it? 450 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: Well? 451 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Thinking back to when you dissiccated your knee, that was 452 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of an embarrassing injury because you were leaning to 453 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: get wrapping paper from behind a TV. It wasn't some 454 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of dramatic injury. So maybe it's something like that. 455 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: Could it be sex injury? Oh god, hope not doing 456 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: this with their foul matter, be talking about how she's 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: had these pregnancy scares, So god, I don't think. I 458 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: think she wouldn't tell that story. That's what I mean. Like, 459 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: imagine doing it in some really embarrassing way and you're like, 460 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: how do you hid mixed on your thumb? Why are 461 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: we kept to cancel the challenge? Anyway? Moving on? In 462 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: a true feat for our public health system, Sarah said 463 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: that she managed to see the GP, get an X ray, 464 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: and meet with a hand specialist, all within an hour. 465 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: And a half. What the hell is it even possible? 466 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: What's a hand specialist? Well, the hand specialist is the 467 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: one that said, look, I have to wait for the 468 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: swelling to go down to tell the severity of the damage. 469 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: But according to Sarah, the doctor was positive that she 470 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: has done ligament damage. They're not sure. I had an 471 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: incident with a tennis ball machine. So I was embarrassing. Well, 472 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: it was kind of embarrassing because I was having a 473 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: hit with my tennis ball machine named Maurice, and I 474 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: was vollying at the net and I saw this tennis 475 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: ball flying towards my head and I stupidly put my 476 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: hand out to catch it. But it was on like 477 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: the hardest level, like it was anyway, I was convinced 478 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I'd broken my finger and done ligament damage. So was 479 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: the doctor. Turns out, nah, well, I broke my finger. 480 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: If this was back in two thousand, it was the 481 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: night of the Olympic Games in Sydney. I have no 482 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: recollection of this. We're playing netball, ok, well, bounced into 483 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: my finger, I broke it. Still carried on. We went 484 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: to McDonald's and I got a cup of ice and 485 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: put it in there. Did you go to a hand 486 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: specialist the next day. No, Mom and Dad did not 487 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: pay me for me to got a hand specialist anyway. 488 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: Jokes aside, I'm pretty shocked, considering the strain that is 489 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: on our healthcare system in Australia, that she managed to 490 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: get all those appointments done between eight thirty and eleven 491 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: as It's incredible. Yeah, I mean, most specialists would have 492 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: a massive waiting list. But I do feel really sorry 493 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: for her because apparently she hasn't even been able to 494 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: change her son's nappies. Well, I mean I feel sorry 495 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: for her, but it's a good way to get out 496 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: of it as well. I mean it does sound very painful, 497 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: but I couldn't help but laugh at how much she 498 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: was actually using her injured hand in the video. Yes, 499 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: so for those who haven't seen it, it's literally like 500 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: when someone gets engaged and suddenly they want to do 501 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: everything with their left hand to show off the ring. 502 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: Because she's got this hot pink splint on her hand, 503 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: and she's known already for being really emotive with her hands. 504 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: So when she was speaking on camera, like she was 505 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: literally over exaggerating everything with the bandage hand. It was 506 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: so distracting. I did like the color pink though of 507 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: the bandage. I thought, has she got shares in this 508 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: plaster company or something like? Is this the new Hiro? 509 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: I actually someone did ask her where she got the 510 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: bandage from, like from the hand specialists? Oh okay. Now, 511 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: off the back of Sarah's update, a lot of her 512 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: followers question why she got an X ray rather than 513 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: an MRI, and she explained on her Instagram story that 514 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: she couldn't get an appointment for an MRI for another 515 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: two weeks, so the x ray was to rule out 516 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: a break. So Sarah conceded though that the hand specialist 517 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: wasn't too concerned about the MRI as she will be 518 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: able to tell what's going on with at once this 519 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: swelling subsides. Now, as for Sarah's mindset, she said she's 520 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: just focusing on keeping her mindset positive and getting creative 521 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: with this injury and juggling three kids, including a baby 522 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: who wants mommy to hold in twenty four to seven, 523 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: that would be so difficult and Kurts had to take 524 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: time off to stay home with the kids. Well, fair enough, 525 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean yeah, whatever, But I was 526 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: only able to use one hand and look after my son. God. 527 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: All I could think about, though, when I saw Sarah's 528 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: update is what's going to happen to the five to 529 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: sixty Challenge? Because on Monday, so If and I were 530 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: speaking about how we think Sarah is already cutting it 531 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: fine by announcing a launch date when she hasn't actually 532 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: completed all of the work for the project. So it 533 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: turns out she's yet to film the workout videos that 534 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: go with the challenge, and Sarah was quick to confirm 535 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: on Monday that the challenge would still be launching on 536 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: the ninth of October, but she would just have to 537 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: moderate her workouts. Here's some of what she's said. 538 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 6: Hand specialist has told me I can get back into 539 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 6: training in five days. She it's going to take five 540 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 6: days off to like not swell it up. I'm definitely 541 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 6: going to have to get creative, but like this, I'm 542 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 6: not going to let this derail me. I'm going to 543 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 6: show you guys that even if you have a torn ligament, 544 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 6: you can still commit to the sixty days. I guess 545 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 6: I just won't be doing any dumbbell work on my 546 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: left hand or like planks on my hands. I just 547 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 6: need to get a little bit creative. 548 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: Not to laugh because it's horrible that she has hurt 549 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: her thumb. But it cracked me up because a lot 550 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: of people have been saying that every time Sarah tells 551 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: her community that they're going to do one of the 552 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: workout Guys together or do a fitness challenge together, that 553 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: she always comes up with an excuse not to do it. 554 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: So I remember before she announced her pregnancy with Malachi, 555 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: she was like, Oh, yeah, we're all going to do 556 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: the fitness challenge together, and then she's like, oh, I 557 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: can't because I'm pregnant. Well, it'll be interesting to see 558 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: if she does the full sixty days. Yeah. Well, she 559 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: ended up sharing another vlog talking about her thumb, and 560 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: she started the video by saying, Hi, it's your favorite 561 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: damaged ligament girl. And it took me back to I 562 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: think it was like twenty seventeen when she had a 563 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: staff infecttionous. She kept calling herself staff girl, like she 564 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: really manages to milk the content out of these types 565 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: of injuries. I'm living for the content. It's actually hilarious. Well, 566 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: in the vlog, she said that she was choosing to 567 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: adapt and not quit, so she said the five sixty 568 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: program is going ahead in nine days and nothing will 569 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: stop me, not even torn ligaments. And it turns out 570 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: that the day after she hurt her thumb, she had 571 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: a filming day locked in for the fitness challenge, so 572 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: she went and got her hair washed and blow dried 573 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: because she couldn't actually do it herself. It's unclear if 574 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: the videos are just going to be pieces to cameras 575 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: or she's going to do the workout, and that would 576 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: be against her doctor's advice because they said, well, don't 577 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: work out for five days. Always says like someone's got 578 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: this voodoo doll of her just putting the pins in 579 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: her thumb or something. Yeah, you will not get your 580 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: challenge out. It was interesting because someone in the comments 581 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: of this vlog wrote, girl, you think a hand injury 582 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: is tough, try having a whole body that refuses to 583 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: cooperate haha, and then Sarah responded, I didn't realize was 584 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: a competition, and then the person required it so awkward. 585 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: They're like, not a competition at all. I was just 586 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: joking about my own struggles. I have LGMD, a muscle 587 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: wasting disease, and can relate to the nothing will stop me. 588 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: Now didn't requite further. I was, oh, oh, that poor person. No, 589 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: I was like, God, you can't go at people in 590 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: your comments without knowing the full story. To be fair, 591 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: there is that whole what is it? Is it called 592 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: like the blueberry bagel theory or whatever it is where 593 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: it's like you could say I love blueberry bagels and 594 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: everyone's like, what about the plane ones? Yeah, well, I 595 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: mean that's clearly not what this person was doing. But 596 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: I suppose you don't know. Tone on social media is triggered. 597 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: Now I've got a prediction for you. I think Sarah 598 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: is going to go to an acupuncturist and naturally cure 599 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: her ligament injury hesself. 600 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: No, it sort of made me feel not uncomfortable. I 601 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: wasn't feeling sorry for myself, but I was like why. 602 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Matt Sakowski has revealed he felt emotional after attending his 603 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: friend's wedding over the weekend. Now, this was the first 604 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: wedding he attended since the breakdown of his marriage to 605 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro. Let's have a listen to what Matt said. 606 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: It was a bit strange to watch, like when they 607 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: were doing their it was so cute and so heartfelt. 608 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: It sort of made me feel not uncomfortable. I wasn't 609 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: feeling sorry for myself, but I was like why, Like 610 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: why was mine? You know what I'm trying to say? 611 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: Not forever? 612 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 613 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: Why was mine? Not forever? Because in that moment, I 614 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: remember when I was saying them, I was like, this 615 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: is forever, and I was like, why did it? Why 616 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 4: was it not real? Why was it? You know what 617 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: I'm trying to say. 618 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Matt went on to say he couldn't quite articulate 619 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: how he felt and needed time to talk to his 620 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: therapist to help identify the exact emotion. It's crazy to 621 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: think it's nearly coming up to their first wedding anniversary. 622 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: That's in November, so only like four or five weeks away. 623 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: That is actually crazy because it feels like just yesterday 624 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: that the Daily Mail's drone was flying overhead Tammy was 625 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: in a pink dress. Like that's crazy. What do you 626 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: do on your first wedding anniversary when you're divorced? Go 627 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: out and have a drinker? Yeah? I mean it would 628 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: be really triggering for Matt to attend a wedding and 629 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: also I mean not to make himself the main character. 630 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: But you'd almost feel like people would be looking like 631 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: side buying you howsy reacting. Yeah, And he said the 632 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: most emotional part for him was seeing them walk down 633 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: the aisle because they did a dip like he did 634 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: with Tammy. And he also said it was hard to watch, 635 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: but it didn't make him feel upset or angry. He said, 636 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: it just felt weird. It's interesting because his co host 637 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: annamcavoy asked him if he thinks he'll ever get married again, 638 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: and he said he was hopeful he would, but he'd 639 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: have to be really certain about the person. Well, that's 640 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: why we're going to leave things today. If you do 641 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: want to hear more content from us, we drop a 642 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: subscriber only episode every Thursday. It's available on Apple and 643 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: on Spotify. If you want to subscribe, All the details 644 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: are in the show notes. 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