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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lolaberry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly Failing with Lolaberry.

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Speaker 2: Hello, it's lols here.

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Speaker 1: Are checking in from talks Talkie as always sending megalove

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Speaker 1: to people that are still in lockdown. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in America are still in lockdown. I

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Speaker 1: know Melbournians are in stage four, US rural Victorians are

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Speaker 1: in stage three, and yeah, I just want to send

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Speaker 1: some love out there because I know some days can

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Speaker 1: feel really good like you're on topic, and other days

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Speaker 1: can feel super super flat. This weekend, Boss and I

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Speaker 1: are doing a juice cleans. He's got the cleans grumps today. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna kill me saying that that we're both on

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Speaker 1: day one of a three day juice cleans with karmic juices.

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Speaker 2: This is not sponsored.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it because that's what we're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: And I love those guys, they're ef and legends. But

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Speaker 1: I digress. Today's guest, the incredible Ash Brewer. She's been

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Speaker 1: on my bucket list for this podcast for Yonks Now

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Speaker 1: you may remember her from Neighbors. She played the iconic

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Speaker 1: Kate Ramsey and then at the young young age of

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Speaker 1: twenty two, she jumped the pond, went to Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: then went on Bold and the Beautiful, one of the

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Speaker 1: is just going from leaps to bounds. We did record

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Speaker 1: this online because she is based in Los Angeles and

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Speaker 1: she shared so much of herself, not just her process,

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Speaker 1: but also the importance of having a plan and the

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Speaker 1: right kind of people around you. Thank you so much, Ashbrewer.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to catch up with.

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Speaker 2: You again one day in real life.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy this pod as much as I

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Speaker 1: did interviewing the incredible Ash Brewer. Welcome the wonderful Ash Brewer.

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Speaker 1: I'm pumped to have you on this podcast. For those

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Speaker 1: that do not know, you are a wonderful Australian actress.

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Speaker 2: Do we say actress or actor?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: What do we say?

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Speaker 3: Whatever? You know? I like both. They both both have

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Speaker 2: No, they totally so.

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Speaker 1: Ozzie's are going to remember you from Neighbors. Back in

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Speaker 1: the day, when did you get on Neighbors when you

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Speaker 3: So the week I finish high school, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I started working that January two thousand and eight. Nuts.

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Speaker 1: I love, I love and origin that you were a

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Speaker 1: a Queensland girl. I think Queenslanders have got really good hearts.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. You know what. I haven't met at Queenslander.

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Speaker 3: I don't like either, so maybe you're onto something.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, so okay, so Ozzie's

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Speaker 1: Kate on Neighbors and then of course we got to

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: It was like my backyard, which sounds I mean, if

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Speaker 1: Imagine a whole Foods health place that had the most

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Speaker 1: You know, Well, this is what's so exciting about you

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Speaker 3: My dad's burger. I'm Sagittarius through and oh.

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Speaker 1: always hear what they're writing, whereas like a novelist will

440
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: write like more literary and have a very different experience.

441
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: So it's probably fantastic that you're writing whilst also auditioning,

442
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: because they seem like to go so hand in hand.

443
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: Definitely. Yeah, it's been a you know, it's just kind

444
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 3: of like baby steps for me, but it's always been

445
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 3: something I've been interested in, and you know, I finally

446
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: I have real time right now to be whenever the

447
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: focus part of my brain decides to lock down for

448
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: a day or two. It's been really nice too, because

449
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I've been struggling to

450
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: find any form of focus or clarity or through all

451
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: of these different lockdowns in just the state of the

452
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: world right now. It's been really tough.

453
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: So it has, you know, this whole week, I'd felt

454
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: pretty flat until I spoke to you right before this

455
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: and You're like, no.

456
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: There's a silver lining here, And I was like, why

457
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: haven't I looked at it like this beautiful silver lining.

458
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 3: I think if you're able to look at it that way,

459
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: I mean, a we're in such a fortunate position that

460
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: we can even look at it that way.

461
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

462
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: I definitely don't take that for granted. But I mean

463
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna have tough days. You're gonna have really down days,

464
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: flat days, like you said, where you just want to

465
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 3: sit and binge Netflix all day and not get out

466
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 3: of your pajamas. I've had a multitude of those days.

467
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 3: I think we're now we're on like we're on technically

468
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 3: fourth month of lockdown.

469
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, Victoria has just gone into lockdown

470
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: mark two, so.

471
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 2: You get that.

472
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: I feel like La and Victoria there's although America is

473
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: in a much more severe situation, like all of Australia's

474
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: kind of kind of like against Victoria, like all the

475
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: borders are locked to us, like we're not allowed to leave.

476
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: It's pretty It's it's a very confronting feeling.

477
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Even even if I wanted to get home

478
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: right now, I think you be.

479
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: Charged three grand to stay in the hotel.

480
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I've read that as where I was like,

481
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: it would have to be a world shattering emergency for

482
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 3: me to spend money on fights and to spend money

483
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 3: for two weeks to quarantine. Like, yeah, I'm not going home.

484
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: I just can't. Can't go home.

485
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: Now.

486
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: I like your plan, your plan is, your plan is solid.

487
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got to ask about the movie, because when

488
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: I researched, I saw that you did a movie with

489
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: tear in Lanister, I would gain we're a big Game

490
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: of Thrones fan, it fans in this household.

491
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: How on earth was that?

492
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just one of the coolest experiences. Yeah.

493
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: It was this one called My Dinner with Herve and

494
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: based on yeah, yeah, based on an actor who was

495
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: in a show called Love Island, which I'm sure some

496
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: people still know. But it was. Yeah, it was cool

497
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: working with him. It was an absolute dream. I just

498
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 3: felt so lucky to be on set with someone like him.

499
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: You know, he was just so cool and calm and good,

500
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 3: like oh God, and he was playing a real, real character, you.

501
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: Know, like yeah, pressures on.

502
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was really, it was great. It

503
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: was really fantastic, and it was such a nice kind

504
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: of you know, I just stepped away from well and

505
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: beautiful and made that decision which was tough. I mean,

506
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: those jobs are amazing, They're essentially as close to a

507
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: nine to five job as any actor can get, and

508
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: it's kind of all like known is a schedule like that.

509
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: So it was a huge decisions to walk away from

510
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: it all, but that that film kind of came up

511
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: really quickly, and I it was just a nice, you know,

512
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: kind of step in the right direction where I was like, Okay,

513
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: maybe I have made the right choice.

514
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine even like making the choice to leave Neighbors.

515
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: Neighbors is such a safe kind of like great solid

516
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: job as an actor in Australia and no, you're right,

517
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: You're right, You've got so you've got this safe, solid

518
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: job in Neighbors in Australia and then like you're like, well,

519
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the risk and jump to the

520
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: big pond. It'd be that same kind of feeling. You

521
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: get this great job in LA and then you're like, oh,

522
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: and I've read a few interviews with you where you're like,

523
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I think you said like Margot had inspired you as

524
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: well to kind of like go jump, just go for it.

525
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: And so it sounds like you've got people around you

526
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: that are kind of like your cheer squad.

527
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: Definitely, and it's vital to have. I mean, as you

528
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: probably know as well, you need that, you need that

529
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: group around you. I'm so so lucky here where, you know,

530
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: particularly with Margo and a lot of our mutual friends.

531
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: We've all known each other for twelve years now, and

532
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: we all happen to live on the other side of

533
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: the world and we're together and it's kind of this

534
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: odd sense of normalcy, which is just such a rare

535
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: experience to have in La. You know, when all the

536
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: lockdowns happened earlier this year, a lot of people like, well,

537
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: why ain't you coming home? Like come home, come home,

538
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: come home. But truly, we're just also we're so held

539
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: here by each other and it is been Yeah, it

540
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: has been home now for a little while. So yeah,

541
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 3: having that cheer squad has been amazing. And likewise with

542
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: the home and away things.

543
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: So when I was when I was not.

544
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: Totally sure about coming or going, staying or whatever, it was,

545
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: it was her again, who kind of just you know,

546
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: she picked up the phone and she was like, you

547
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: were not done yet.

548
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: You have one.

549
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: She's like the world's biggest stage mom. I love.

550
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: It's so much worn a.

551
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: Him, you got caught to him. So yeah, here we

552
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: are still going, which is which is interesting because it's

553
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: been a very eye opening and top couple of years,

554
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: I tell you what. But in terms of acting, it's

555
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: just you know, it's definitely made me hi what's the

556
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: word tenacious?

557
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 2: Is the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to.

558
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: Us stick around for a couple of years and and

559
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 3: really be heavily in that audition and meeting phase. It's

560
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: it's pretty intense sometimes totally.

561
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but when we

562
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: so we you and I met Yolks ago back.

563
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: In the neighbours days when you used to come into

564
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: health for it. Do you remember, of course.

565
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: I was back in Melbourne last year. In the first

566
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 3: place I went to was bren p.

567
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: So, oh that place is an institution. And then I

568
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: remember you came to one of my book launches. You

569
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: were so supportive. But when I fast forward to when

570
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I was running too again in era one being like three,

571
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's nearly three years ago now, you gave

572
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: me the best advice because I was like, I'm so

573
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: hungry to get here.

574
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: I just want to get.

575
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: To LA and you said, yeah, you said it can

576
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: eat you up like LA can eat you up and

577
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of spit you out like and you said, come

578
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: over with a plan, like come over with a bit

579
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: of a plan, And that's kind of like the trick

580
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: to kind of getting getting.

581
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Into the rhythm of LA.

582
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: You probably don't remember that, But is that kind of

583
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: the advice you'd give someone today.

584
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, that definitely sounds like something I was

585
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: barely in the depth of despair as well, where I

586
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: was like.

587
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: Don't come terribly, but.

588
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do. It's like anything you know, there's you know,

589
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 3: and I say, it's it really is just like any business.

590
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: You can't just attack it blindly, and yeah, you know

591
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 3: you do. You really you need a plan. You need boring,

592
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: boring paperwork, office work, things organized, like your visas and

593
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: like where and how are you going to lease a car?

594
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: And you know, it gets real very quickly here because

595
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: the glittery, the glittery stars in the eyes bit wears

596
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: off pretty bath as I'm sure you know, you know,

597
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: like it gets real really quick. And having a plan

598
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: and having just a path that's uniquely yours and knowing

599
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: what you want will get you through the tough times.

600
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: But I have noticed that those whose plan starts and

601
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: finishes at getting off at LAX doesn't really generate a

602
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: lot's NASSI, which.

603
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: Is what we just talked about.

604
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, And I love that you mentioned you've got

605
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: a like life coach as well. I'm really pro mental

606
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: health and I've got a therapist that I work with

607
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: all the time. He's the one that, like, I started

608
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: with him three years ago and he kept referring to

609
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: me as an actor and I was like, stop a mate,

610
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm a nutritionist.

611
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: And he was like, but you're a performer.

612
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Like it's like you work in tally, you write books

613
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and stuff. And he's the one that's kind of like

614
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: helped navigate me to have this kind of stuff discovery

615
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: for nothing more than you know, self discovery, and I

616
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: think is mental health.

617
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: And that might might be through your life coach.

618
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Would you say that that's another important kind of like

619
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: self care practice that you, oh you do.

620
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm only coming into this chapter of

621
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: my life now when it comes to kind of protecting

622
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: my mental health. I mean I took a knock the

623
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 3: last twelve months, not for really any particular reason apart

624
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: from you know, things were just harder than they'd ever

625
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: been before, and getting to check points that I've always

626
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: wanted to reach was harder than they've ever been. So yeah,

627
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: it's a huge part of my Actually, through lockdown, I

628
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: decided to stop drinking as well, and that was a

629
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: huge part of protecting my mental state. So I haven't

630
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: drank in a few months, and that's really that's been huge,

631
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: not that I like, you know, nothing crazy, but in

632
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: terms of like just settling my anxiety and settling my

633
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: own brains, that's been a vital key for me.

634
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Which that's it's a good move because it's so.

635
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: Easy for a lot of people.

636
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so easy.

637
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: Even my boyfriend and I are like, are we going

638
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: to get a sneaky bottle of red tonight? It's just

639
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: because it relieves the pressure. And so I think you've

640
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: done a huge service to yourself by making it call.

641
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it got a little weary to get

642
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: to that point, but you know, because I started thinking, like,

643
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: what pressure am I really? Like, what am I constantly

644
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: trying to squish here? And just being able to stay level,

645
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: and so yeah, that's just kind of become a part

646
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: of my arsenal now which is just to be as

647
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: clear as I possibly can. Yeah, as much as I can.

648
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Being clear is definitely one of my goals to I

649
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: love that kind of mantra, just to be clear, because

650
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: I think that is the best, Like when you talk

651
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: about even audition prep, like if you're just clear within yourself,

652
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: I imagine that's a really good start point.

653
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

654
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: And I listened to an interview with you on a

655
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: pod and you talked about acting school. So I think

656
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: some people also that like see actors and think, oh, no, well,

657
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: she's made it.

658
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: She's in LA, she's on Bold, she's on this big movie.

659
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Da da da da, she doesn't need acting school. But really, like,

660
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: I think you started that later, didn't you. Didn't you

661
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: when you got more time off Bold than you started

662
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: acting school?

663
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: How did you? I? You know, all through school and

664
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: high school, I was at a separate acting school, so

665
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: that was kind of like my extracurricular thing for myself,

666
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: and I focus on it pretty heavily. It was always

667
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: something I really cared about. I wanted to be an actor,

668
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: so I was in acting school. But then I got

669
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: neighbors and there was really no time to be studying.

670
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: And then I was on Bold, so again, there was

671
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: really no time to be studying it. And truthfully it

672
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: sounds silly, but there was no time just because the

673
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: work was so much. The last thing my brain honestly

674
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: wanted to do was sit in then learn about the

675
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: thing that I've been doing all week. But as soon

676
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: as I finished Bold, actually leading up towards making the decision,

677
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: I went to an acting school here called Beverly Hills Playhouse,

678
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: which I really loved, and it was very theater and

679
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: stage based, and I read plays like I'd never read

680
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: plays before, and I was doing more theory work than anything,

681
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: and just trying to figure out where I sit amongst

682
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: it all and where my interest kind of just naturally

683
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: flows to. So yeah, I mean, look, I know people

684
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: who think that you get to a point you don't

685
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: need it. I personally think they're lazy. I think uses.

686
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: You know, there is so many dialects to be learned,

687
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: There's so many vocal bad habits to be taken away

688
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: and to be worked through. And ultimately, one of the

689
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: best things that I was ever told was that you

690
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: it's like a It's like a gym. You know, you

691
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: would never just if you wanted to run a marathon.

692
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: You would never just wake up the morning of the

693
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: marathon and run forty something kilometers. You train, and you

694
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 3: have to train, and you have to be conditioned and

695
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: you have to be spot on to then run the race.

696
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: If you're if the first if the first time you're

697
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: picking up sides or a script is for an audition,

698
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, forget why anxiety.

699
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Just goes to the roof feeling that, and I do.

700
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who will, you know,

701
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: they'll they'll wait for the excuse of the audition to

702
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: come their ways to exercise all those muscles. And you know,

703
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: just in my in my experience and what I know

704
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: works for me, I've got to be I've got to

705
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: be a pretty conditioned and all nice and lubed up

706
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: and ready to go. You know, I can't just jump

707
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: in and be like, oh yeah, I'll just wing it

708
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: and see what happens. I don't know, I've done all

709
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: the work before it, because the the reward is the audition.

710
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: The there are the reward for the hard work is

711
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: the audition. You know, because until you have a job,

712
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: you're a professional. Your job is you're a professional auditioner

713
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: until you're work.

714
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, okay.

715
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about fame, which I know

716
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: is probably a really weird or kind of like loaded one.

717
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Have you felt like and I remember when I ran

718
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: into in between I can't remember. I've got all these

719
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: memories in between Brian hell Food and La We run

720
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: into each other at the Melbourne Spring Racing Carnival one

721
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: year and I don't know if I know you're an

722
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: ambassador Cox Plate, but this one we were at Flemington

723
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: where we ran and I think it might have been

724
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: the year before you were Coxplate or around about that

725
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: time and ambassador and I remember.

726
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: You were just getting pulled.

727
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: We were having I think a coffee in one of

728
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: their marquees together.

729
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: I do you remember?

730
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: I do?

731
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: And You're kind of being pulled by about eight different

732
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: people and you were like, oh, come back and find

733
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: I was. I just my heart kind of like felt

734
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: for you. I was like, oh right, this girl is

735
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: just I don't know if it was the fame. I

736
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: don't know if you're in word mode because you were

737
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: there more as an ambassador, but.

738
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: I felt like.

739
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: You It was like there was like ash but then

740
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: there was like this version of ash that everybody kind

741
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: of they just wanted a piece of you, And.

742
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: Is there kind of like that side of fame? Is

743
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: it different in.

744
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: America too in Australia as well, is you know, Yeah,

745
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird question to ask, but does

746
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: that make sense?

747
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think. I mean, it's been a while since

748
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 3: I really felt anything like that, just because I've kind

749
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 3: of been bunkered down here and you know, no one

750
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: cares about me here because there's actual famous people, but

751
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's it's a Yeah, it was

752
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: interesting being in Australia, especially when events like that come up.

753
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean it was I feel like I've kind of had,

754
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: you know, two lives in Australia, where like with neighbors,

755
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: there was like a level of recognition which wasn't you know,

756
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: and not in a disrespectful way, but it wasn't put

757
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: on a on a on any kind of pedestal at all.

758
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: You were just kind of part of the fabric. You know,

759
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: you'd be at this event and da da da dah.

760
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: No I really cared. But then there was something that

761
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 3: shifted once I had a few years of work under

762
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: my belt in the US and then Australia kind of

763
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: started to, you know, just treat things a little differently.

764
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: But you know, it's fine, and I guess you hit

765
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: the nail on the head. I just it is just work,

766
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: and it is just it's I kind of like it,

767
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: to be honest. I love meeting people. I love talking

768
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: to people. So whether it's an interview or this or

769
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: that or whatever, it's just always an opportunity to be

770
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: meeting someone else and to be hearing their story too.

771
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: And the weirdest thing is when you find yourself just

772
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: talking about yourself for a very long time on end,

773
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: that gets a bit like, oh god, I feel horrible,

774
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: but you know.

775
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Doing that today.

776
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: But you know, as long as as long as you're

777
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: like active in it and total so you're vibing with

778
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: the person, it's fine. It's just a conversation.

779
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: It's just just is what it is.

780
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: This question I'm excited for.

781
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been really courageous with your career

782
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: and being willing to kind of like take the risks

783
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: and take the steps that are ultimately leading you to

784
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: the mega kind of like in yoga we call it dharma,

785
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: which is your purpose.

786
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: Like you're oh, I hope that. Yeah, like totally, we're

787
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: already doing that.

788
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, and I guess I want to know,

789
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: like what is the ultimate dream for you? Like what

790
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: would be because it's so clear that you're going, I'm

791
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: really comfortable in this thing, but I'm going to still

792
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: take a risk because I'm chasing this, Like there is

793
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: like a holy grail for you.

794
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: It feels like, which is awesome?

795
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

796
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: Is that? What does it look like?

797
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: Ah? It's yeah, it's interesting that you say that because sometimes,

798
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: I mean that's a hard thing to hang on to

799
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: because you know, yeah, those jobs, you know, with Bold

800
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: and Home and Away and Neighbors, there are very specific,

801
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: you know, kind of the same same they're you know,

802
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: for lack of better words, each latter or moves you know,

803
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: it's the same genre, at the same pace, the same

804
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: style of writing, the same style of characters. And I

805
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: guess it was kind of a you know, very I'm

806
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: so fortunate for all those jobs and all the opportunities

807
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: that I've had, I just never really felt like I

808
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: was able to give what I feel like I'm capable

809
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: of giving and at the capacity that I truly want

810
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: to work. And if anything, that's just the simplest and

811
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: maybe the dumbest thing that I've hung on to my whole,

812
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: you know, particularly the last couple of years, where I'm like, no,

813
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: I just I want to work with core writers. I

814
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: want to work with call directors. I want to you know,

815
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: dive deeper and really flex my muscles and see if

816
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: it is all there. And I just I think somewhere

817
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: deep down, I just know that if I settle for

818
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: these jobs long term and I stay in them long term,

819
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: I'm really going to feel like I didn't back myself

820
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: and I didn't give myself the right shot. So you know,

821
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: all of this could be you know, it is risky,

822
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: and it could come down in a you know, in flames.

823
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: But at least I tried, you know, at least I

824
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: back myself enough, give myself, give myself the shot. But

825
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: as far as like the the real thing, you know,

826
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: I would just I'd love to I'd love to create

827
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: my own I'd love to be at the helm of something.

828
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: I'd love that. That's really where ultimately, and you know,

829
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: like we were saying earlier, there's something special about this

830
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: twenty nine thirty you you're such a baby still and

831
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: you feel so young, but something inside is emerging with

832
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: just the ability to recognize that you can accomplish truly

833
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: whatever you put your mind to. So I'm in the

834
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: early stages of just being like, no, if you want that,

835
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: it's a real thing and you should be giving it

836
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: a shot. You should be chasing that. So yeah, I mean,

837
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: I haven't really read.

838
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 2: You're in sat in Return? Dude, have you heard of that?

839
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: I've been in set. I've been told I'm in cut

840
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: in Return. Fro I'm not.

841
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

842
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: Three years, I'm like, where are I at? Sat In Return?

843
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: Say? Do you want to know? I'm gonna burst your bubble?

844
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: They say it kind of starts to kick in at

845
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Twenty eight is like the big yeah, and

846
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: they say it doesn't fully leave you until thirty two.

847
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so five years.

848
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: But you know what, they're the most brilliant lessons, Like

849
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: you learn who you are.

850
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: You normally go.

851
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Through massive heartbreak, you have my biggest failures, you have

852
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: the biggest lessons.

853
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: You get really clear.

854
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: On your values, Like the way you were describing about

855
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: like you know, it's almost like you know somewhere in

856
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: your heart that you really want to flex that muscle,

857
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: like that feeling and that voice becomes evoked. One thing

858
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: I was saying to you, I'm doing my acting school

859
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: on Zoom at the moment. One of my teachers in

860
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: LA and his name's Cody Fern. He's an incredible Aussie

861
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: actor and he was in American Horror Story and Assassination

862
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: of Janni Visagi.

863
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: Oh I loved that show. So if you to all

864
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: the people who seen to this, you haven't watched the

865
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: Assassination of Giannisaci. It is one of it is. It's

866
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: one of my favorite TV series. It's phenomenal, phenomenal.

867
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's he we get we're so lucky

868
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: to have him as our script analysis teacher, and he oh,

869
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: I know, right. He said, when you see someone that's

870
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: like your parents' age group or you know, a little

871
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: bit older, he's like, ask them, honestly if they have

872
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: any regrets. And he said most people are going to

873
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: have regrets. And it kind of it was like quite sobering.

874
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh my god, that's why

875
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: I can't give up on this dream. That's why I

876
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: have to keep chasing this fear. And it's kind of

877
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: like what you were just saying as well, it's like

878
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: it's almost like you know something and it's you feel it.

879
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: It's even hard to verbalize it.

880
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: It's like I've got to chase this feeling that is

881
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: so innately within myself, and I feel like you've totally

882
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: just verbalized that as well.

883
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I never went I never went

884
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: to college, I never had any kind of like real

885
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: All I know is this, So in a way, I

886
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: feel a bit fortunate that I'm like, no, you know,

887
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: some people look at my life and go, oh my gosh,

888
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: how do you deal with the ups and downs? And

889
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: you know, money comes and goes and this and that

890
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: it's stressful. But I think a huge, a huge thing

891
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: for me, which I am grateful for, is that I

892
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: haven't known anything else. So all I know is chasing

893
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: this and chasing that feeling. And you know, if I

894
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: was to become a little more structured, I think that

895
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: would almost feel a bit a bit like out of

896
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: my body for me. And I think as well, just

897
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: like lockdown and everything. I mean, I'm not sure I

898
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: haven't read exactly what the state of you know, Australia

899
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: is in, but I'm sure unemployment is as high as

900
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: it is here right now and so oh horrible.

901
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so something like a thousand suicides in Australia since COVID.

902
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it works just.

903
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: I actually posted a stat it's like more than it

904
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: works out to seventy six more a week than COVID

905
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: cases or something or deaths or something like. It's really

906
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: the Still I think this the mental health stuff to

907
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: come out the other side of COVID will be mind blowing.

908
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna affect uh, I mean, it's

909
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: affecting everyone and in one way or another.

910
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Can I ask We talked about this early and I

911
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting to ask it on here, but how how

912
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: do you think the industry? How long do you think

913
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: the industry in LA, like the film and TV industry

914
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: is going to be bunkered down for.

915
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if I had, if I really knew

916
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: the answer to this, I'm sure I'd be kept in

917
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: a room at CEO or something. But uh, yeah, I honestly, I.

918
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Because you were saying Oscars next year is gonna be

919
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: a white like that's gonna be like.

920
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: I think the award season next year is is going

921
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: to be you know, potentially wore.

922
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be picked, you.

923
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 3: Know, clutching of straws with those nominations. I could be wrong,

924
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 3: who knows. The last half of this year could turn

925
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: out great, who knows. But I reckon, I reckon a

926
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: good couple of years to just figure it all out.

927
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: I mean truly, I mean every it's just like any industry.

928
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: Every industry right now is up in the air. I mean,

929
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: how long is Quanta is going to realistically be shut

930
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: down for? I mean, I know that some productions are

931
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: trying to get up and running now, but it's it's yeah,

932
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: it's not looking good. No one's moving anytime fast.

933
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's the same everywhere.

934
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: But it's just so it's so interesting in the film

935
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: and TV industry, and also like they create, you're all creatives,

936
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, creatives. It's important, like you just don't want

937
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: that to be the industry that really suffers.

938
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: I know. Well, I mean, you know, like Broadway is

939
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: going through it. Everyone everyone is suffering in one way

940
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: or the other. Of course, no one is exempt from

941
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: a loss. During this period. Something shifted, something's changed. It's

942
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: just a rough period.

943
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Of we're living in history. Yeah, we're living in history.

944
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: And this is the thing I think I told you

945
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: before this. I watched a class with Hugh Jackman. He said,

946
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: after this will become the Golden years, and then you said,

947
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm liking it to a world war and it's the

948
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: same thing like World War two. And then you think

949
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: of Hollywood in the fifties. That's the romantic golden year

950
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: of Hollywood, right that we all romanticize over and arrived

951
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: at Ala with the starry eyes because we've seen those

952
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: the beautiful romance of Hollywood, and so you know, I

953
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: think that there will be beautiful light at the end

954
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: of the town.

955
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: You've inspired me to have that.

956
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: Now I want to end on one. I've stolen so

957
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: much of your time. I'm so grateful. I want one

958
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: more question about like.

959
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: Five minutes all afternoon.

960
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: I love it. It's like patching up with an old mate.

961
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: One like question just for any like actors that are studying.

962
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: I know all my classmates will probably listen to this, Like,

963
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: what would your advice be if you've got that dream

964
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: but you've got a lot of fear around it.

965
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, the fear never goes, So just if you're scared

966
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: about it just know that that's a part of it.

967
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: I would just say, and I feel like this goes

968
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: to anyone. If you're wanting to start a business, whether

969
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: you want us to open a bar or open a cafe,

970
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: or create something online, or no matter what it is

971
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: that you're embarking on in life, you just have to

972
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: you have to love it with every cell of your being.

973
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: If you're wanting to build something from the ground up,

974
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: because it is so tough and it's exhausting and it's

975
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: your first love. It takes everything out of you. You

976
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: learn everything about yourself and about it if you just

977
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: throw yourself in there so so truly, I mean, it is,

978
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: it does. It is to be said about acting, but

979
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: I really think it goes for anything. You know, no

980
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: matter what you're chasing in this life, and you're really

981
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: going for something and it's unique and it's just on you,

982
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: you've got to love it, and you've got to back yourself.

983
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: And as cliche as it sounds, you just have to

984
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: believe in yourself throwing through and that'll be knocked and

985
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: that'll be shifted, and you have to work on it

986
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 3: all the fucking time.

987
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love it.

988
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: If you don't love it, do something else. And I'm

989
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: telling you it will be so much more fun. If

990
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: you do not love acting and you don't love this industry,

991
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 3: please do something else. Just save yourself the heartache.

992
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: It's not worth. You're crazy, so true, so true, it.

993
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: Truly it goes for anything. You know. You wouldn't you

994
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't create a candle company if you didn't truly believe

995
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: that you were making the best candles the industry had

996
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 3: ever seen.

997
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: Totally, you do it, even candle.

998
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: It's so saturated, there are so many candles. So yeah,

999
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: you've got to back yourself. You've got to you've got

1000
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: to realize that you do have something to give and

1001
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 3: and and not stop until you've shown it totally.

1002
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: And I think even like for my little taste I've

1003
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: had in like morning TV shows and being kind of

1004
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: like the health girl, Like the second that the show

1005
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: gets axed, you like I remember when the circle got

1006
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: acced in morning show on Channel ten. We all found

1007
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: out via Twitter, and so like anybody that works in

1008
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: this industry, like, it's pretty brutal. And I think if

1009
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: the lover is there and if you're able to back

1010
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: yourself and you just know that I've got to do

1011
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: this thing because like you said, it is.

1012
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: Your great love.

1013
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: Then those knocks are going to be nothing more than

1014
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: wonderful opportunities to grow.

1015
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, exactly exactly.

1016
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: And yeah, just one last time, I keep going, one

1017
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: last thing. What's next for you? It sounds like you're

1018
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: writing at the moment.

1019
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: Did you say auditions are starting to come in even

1020
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: though you're still coming in there?

1021
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, fortunately, there's been a bunch of things

1022
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: happening and starting to happen in Australia. There's a few

1023
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: productions in you know, kind of establishing themselves right now

1024
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: environ maybe, which is cool. So you know, there's there's

1025
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: just the regular stuff kind of just an audition here

1026
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: and there, and then just you know, I'm not I'm

1027
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 3: not I'm not happy and I spent a year learning

1028
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: this the hard way. I'm not happy unless I am

1029
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: at the wheel and creating every day. So I look,

1030
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: I don't know where this writing thing is going to go.

1031
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: All I know is that it's it's my complete sanity

1032
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: right now and and also the most frustrating thing in

1033
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: the entire world. So it's probably right. Sounds exactly like

1034
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: something i'd be into well.

1035
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

1036
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what the future brings for you.

1037
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Wonderful ash Brewer, thank you so much for sharing so

1038
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: much of your time, so nice.

1039
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 3: And cool pod. I love this idea. It's so good.

1040
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: Oh I'm just pumped.

1041
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm so like pumped to have you on because you've

1042
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: been on my dream list for a while. And then

1043
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: I a friend of mine said to me. I was like,

1044
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: we're not going to do a season five because of

1045
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: the lockdown, and she goes, are you kidding?

1046
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: Get the people that.

1047
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: Are on your dream lists that are in America or

1048
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: the people in Melbourne that are in lockdown.

1049
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: I was like, ash Brewer, Oh that's so I'm glad

1050
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 3: we did this and it's so cool.

1051
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 2: Meant to be big love. Thank you so much, beautiful

1052
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: bye bye.

1053
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1054
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1055
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at yumo lollaberry. This potty my word

1056
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

1057
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment, and of

1058
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: course spread the love.

1059
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: O