1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Podcast you nine our voices, Quick heads up. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on bros 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: and cons. We talk about real life and we're committed 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: to having open conversations with no filter. Some experiences and 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: tastes can be challenging to digest. So if you're easily reddled, 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: you probably want to see this one out. Listener. Discretion 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: is advised. Support is always available. You can contact Lifeline 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: on thirteen eleven fourteen or thirteen Young on one thing 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: nine two seven six for Aboriginal or toy straight Islanders. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: All right, let's get it. 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: What's it like to be an Australian Polonesia living in 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 4: You can actually live off the land. 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: Bro, can live with the land, bro. Bro. You don't 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: need to pay taxes or you don't need to pay 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: for anything, bro. This So that's why I. 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 4: Don't get it when the family and Tom are like, hey, 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 4: send me money, don't say don't. 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: The cookie war dance? Yeah the cookie I haven't seen it. 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: I think that's the craziest or whatever is it? When 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: where they're wearing the green and white, do. 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: You yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome back ladies and yeo yeah 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: back we're back. What's like to be an Australian Polynesian. 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: I'm here with ron Goddie. You're listening to Malick. We've 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: got an exciting episode. Ronnie, introduce hisself and tell us 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: where you're from. We already know where where the fuck 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: you're from living. 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: Us. Tell us what's it like to be in Australian Polynesia. 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: What's it like? 29 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: Well, guys, tell them where we're sign from as well. 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: But you know, we're born in Australia. For those of 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: you that are new and are tuning in, we were 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: born here in Australia, and most of us were born 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 4: in Canberra, in a capital territory of Australia. So we're 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: very blessed to be born here in a beautiful country 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 4: like Australia. And I can't believe that it's taking us 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: so long to realize how good we have here in Australia. 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you know, I think we're the luckiest. We're 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: the luckiest Islanders. 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: And like I have to agree, because being an Islander 40 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: born in Australia, I didn't realize how privileged we were until, 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: like you start thinking outside of the worce, because we 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: bring it up there. You know, our criminal pass and whatnot. 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: But like it's almost like you feel ashamed that you 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: were acting a type of way. What do you mean 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: like just like I'm going off the rails, you know, 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: doing dumb shit and just like you know, and then 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: like when you come to when you come to an 48 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 4: understanding of where your position positioned in Australia. Yeah, for example, 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: like bro, we got a good here. You know the 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: opportunities I'm saying, Yeah, let's she's siding here. 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: The sky's the limit. 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: Bro. 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: We had a question that this is why we chose 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: to cover this topic. Yeah, we have it. We had 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: a question that came in someone from America. They must 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: have been watching videos where people were saying that everyone 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: else looks down on them in America everyone in Australia 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: and looks down in them. What do you think the 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: cases are? 60 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: Nah, I think it's just there's a variety of just 61 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 4: differences and I think it just comes off like based 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: off judgment. I think, yeah, because you're you're basing off 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: judgment like people from this country and then people are 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: there from this regional country and it's just like it's 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: almost coming off. 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: As if like they're a bit nosy as well. 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: You know, like I wonder what these Islanders are like 68 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: over there, or they're probably unhealthy, you know they probably yeah, 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: they're probably. 70 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: Like it's not it is, But I feel like Islanders 71 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: look down on whoever's not part of whatever. Yeah, they happened. 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: The same thing happened with New Zealand and Australia when 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: there wasn't that much much of us here. Cylanders used 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: to laugh at us. Yeah. I remember wearing ten's on 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: the road and seeing some of the New Zealand boys. 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: They used to be like, hey, bro, you going tennis? 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: They used to laugh, lad, And I used to be like, 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: what the fuck, Like I'm wearing ten hundred dollars shoes. Yeah, 79 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: And then now there's a lot of them were in 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: tens and it's crazy. 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: And I feel like maybe because we weren't like a 82 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: part of the island community like in the yeah, like 83 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: we looked like outside maybe maybe like in a way 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: you say, it looks like that. 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, in a in a massive sense as well. 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: It's a lot to do with comparison as well. Like 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: I think our our islander culture plays a big part 88 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: in comparison and just being judgmental. It's in our nature 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: you know, like hearing bro and it's like yeah, but 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: you hear it from from the athletic sports stage two 91 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: at home, Like it's it's like forever competition with these 92 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: other Islanders. Oh you're from New Zealand or your your 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: food is better, but we've we've got better looking Like 94 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: it's always like it's always something stupid like that. And 95 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: I guess like it's within it's very common within our 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: own people, and that's something like we've got to break 97 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: out of our own shell. You know, I'll see it 98 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: a lot. It's very common with us Islanders. You know, 99 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: we're just always comparing. You never hear the end of 100 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: it when someone's when the Islander person starts starts up 101 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: a bit. Yeah, is always his own people that are like, 102 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: you know, speaking up about his errors and all like 103 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: just just like snaky stuff. 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I want to put that to bed. 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, I actually I actually love the women all together, man. 106 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: And I learned this in jail. And speaking of the Americans, 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: I also learned this in jail. So I don't know 108 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: if this is true, correct me if I'm wrong, But 109 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: I had a guy that came from Oh he was 110 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: in America, for a bit and he came and downtime 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: in Australia and he said, hey, doggle, like all the 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: Islanders in America they put they hang their flag on 113 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: their room, every single cell they're gonna have a flag 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: on their room. And then in America in America, so 115 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: I understand how I remember Sam said it's not as 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: much as Islanders and that, you know, yeah, yeah, well 117 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: this is what this guy was telling me. Correct me 118 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, But he said all the boys would 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: hang like if you're tongue, and the boys would hang 120 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: a big tongue and flag on their doors. And if 121 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: your islander would do that, that's mud started following suit. 122 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and say like being an Islander in prison was 123 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: actually you know, it's like a prideful thing. 124 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a prideful thing. Like not a prideful thing, 125 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: not a powerful thing, but like you're just proud to represent. Yeah. 126 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: Like I feel like I feel like Australia is slowly 127 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: turning into something like that, like where you know when 128 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: something like massive like the World Cup comes on, which 129 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: is this year we got the World Cup this year? Yeah, 130 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: and I'm like bad when something massive like that comes on. 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: But everyone gets together, the Polynesian community. Everyone starts to 132 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: wrapping their countries. You see the hundred flags in front 133 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: of the houses, a hundred seas on the cars. But 134 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: everyone knows that we're so passionate when it comes to 135 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: our countries. Yeah, and man, it's mad to see that 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: they're doing that in America. 137 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and other countries as well. I'm pretty sure New 138 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: Zealand off its head. And just just for a audience now, 139 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: I just wanted to quickly say, without any further or 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: do that cookies we realized that cookies are the best dances. 141 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: Oh so, yeah, we made a bit of a mistake 142 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: of our apologies. We've seen a few cookies getting heated 143 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: in the comments, and yeah, we actually did forget that 144 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: cookies are the best dancers. 145 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: A good friend of ours. What's his name, Clemen? I'm 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: pretty sure it was cookie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so this 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: is good friend of ours. I think that's why I 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: never crossed my mind, because Clemen didn't really dance or 149 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: sing a lot. 150 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: He could drink that I was a heavy drinker, man. 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: But man, yeah, I'm shocked that it's the cookies. Man. 152 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: But I think I have an idea that they were 153 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: a good they were, they were good bunch of dances. 154 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: But not Yeah, well because I literally thought it was moldies. 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: You know what, I gotta admit that cookie, that cookie, hacker, 156 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: whatever you call it. Have we seen it? Oh, the 157 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: cook you haven't seen it. I don't want to call it. 158 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't want to call it hacker because hacker 159 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: is his new Zealand. 160 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, they call it. The Cookie War dance. Yeah, 161 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: the cookie. Now, I haven't seen it. I think that's 162 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: the craziest. 163 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: Then it's is it when where they're wearing the green 164 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: and white d Yeah, it's scary, bro. Like when I've 165 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: seen it, they stream off the top of their lung. 166 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: It's not a normal hauker bro. 167 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys sound like a horror movie and they're 168 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: rushing towards it. You gotta watch it. We'll play yeah, 169 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: just in case, so it's like you know what, we'll 170 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: react to it. Now. I'll show you, guys quickly. F 171 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: I've actually never seen one. I'm actually shocked, bro, you'll 172 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: be you'll be shocked. Man. How come no one never 173 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 3: purchased it? About it? We are the video editing. I 174 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: think it's because there's not that much cookies or they 175 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: just don't care, like or like maybe they're yeah. 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: Maybe they're fans are just not like this out like no, 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: they've they've got to like they've got die hard fans. 178 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 3: So there we go. 179 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi, they're like how they're holding each other's shoulders, you. 180 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: Know, like I got your back, the door, come here, 181 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: the wall, got your back. 182 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: It's made a lot. 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: That was actually mad. What are you reckon about? 184 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: I was I was getting I was getting chooser, I 185 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: was getting bump from I told you. 186 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: It's like a fucking horror movie. By the way, they 187 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: wore scream up, like the whole point of that the 188 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: war dances to intimidate your person. Yeah, exactly, killer. They 189 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: killed that part. Man. I just wish their play style 190 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: was the same. 191 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: Yah, because I've heard a lot about the cook Islanders, 192 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: but I've never really seen the water answer. 193 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: It's interesting. 194 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, well fuck well there is there is a few 195 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: Cookies here in we just hardly see them. But yeah, 196 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: hardly see them. But they're very like low key Islanders. 197 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 4: They stick to themselves. Yeah, very very out there. Yeah, 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: and like you can't for me personally, I can't really 199 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: tell Cook Islander if I was to see one walking by, 200 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: like I couldn't really tell. Like I could tell a 201 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: difference between a tongue and someone the times, but if 202 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: you were to see a cook Islander, you can't really tell. 203 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: You probably think it's monkey or you know, in the 204 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: high in New Zealand. But they the cookies here in Australia, 205 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: they're actually very very similar to us. So he could 206 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: go to a cookie's house and you feel at home, 207 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: You feel like her. 208 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: The way they cook, they were, the way they do 209 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 4: everything exactly the same, probably just not as many as them. 210 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, since we're talking about Polynesians in Australia, Yeah, 211 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: how about we speak about our experience in ton when 212 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: we were over there, because a lot of people listen 213 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: to us that here hear our accent and everything, and 214 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: they think we've been born and raised Ozzie too, Blue 215 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: Australian fair INCA mate. 216 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: It's a bit of both. Brond, I can't lie. But 217 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: I remember when we were in Tonga. We had some 218 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: good memories, but we did have some bad memories. I 219 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: got to a bit bro like, and in terms of 220 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: bad memories, I'll just start Astralian. 221 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: Don't talk about the airport. Whatever you do. Oh no, 222 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not even gonna talk about the airport 223 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: many legs. 224 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: Oh the dog, Yeah, shout out to the dog of 225 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: any lex Bro. It was privileged to have him on Bro. 226 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: But Tonga, I'm not sure how it looks now. At 227 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: least we know how the airport looks, but I'm not 228 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: sure how it looks now. But like when we were 229 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: back in Tonga and we're going to school there, we 230 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 4: did get looked down on a lot. I think it's 231 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: because the whole village knew that we were Australian tongueents. 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 4: We went in Tonguans, so in their eyes we were 233 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: like fresh meat is what they call you in jail. 234 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: It's like walking in jail and your fresh meat. 235 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: So even though we look like tonguans in Australia, we 236 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: look like full on tonguins. When we go back to Tonga, 237 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: we look like fresh meat to these guys. And like 238 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: walking in jail for the first day, it's like everyone 239 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: looked at you, Like yeah, everyone looks at you, and 240 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: you're either a walking atm or you're a walking punching bag. 241 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: That's That's the best way I can explain it to you. 242 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: And that's how we felt like most of the days 243 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: where I was. 244 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: There, I remember going to school there. I remember one 245 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: time Jay was getting bullied there as well. Yeah, but 246 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: I'll leave Jay for for Jay to come and explain 247 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: that for himself. But there was I actually really liked that, Bro, 248 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: And we yeah, we got off to know good. Like 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: we were always like little adventurers, like wherever we wanted. Yeah, 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: if we wanted to eat there, we were catching whatever 251 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: we wanted to. Yeah, and those days we were eating 252 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that don't even stay on the podcast, 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: but we were eating whatever we wanted. Like I felt 254 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: like we lived a free life. Yeah, and that's very 255 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: that's very true in that aspect living in you can 256 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: actually live off the land, broke. 257 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Bro. 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: You don't need to pay taxes or you don't need 259 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: to pay rent for anything. 260 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: But so that's why I don't get it when the 261 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 4: family and Tom are like, hey, send me money, I 262 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: was saying, those. 263 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: Off my. 264 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: But we're doing your heart. You know, you're construction, Okay, lawyer, lawyer, 265 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: fuck Bro. Hopefully they didn't find out we're doing podcasts 266 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: podcast sitting there, Oh my god. 267 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, bro. 268 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: I'd have to say tongue definitely, hands down one of 269 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: the best experiences. Like I wouldn't even I don't regret 270 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: anything about it, like the good stuff and the bad 271 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: stuff that happened about it. 272 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: We were we were, we were we were pretty much outsiders. 273 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: When we went to to Yeah, people were like you 274 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: the fuck are these Oussie boys? 275 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 276 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: So after three years of living there, I don't know 277 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: who decided, but my parents decided to bring us back. 278 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: So now we're in Australia and the Oussie boys were 279 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: looking at us like the fuck are these freshes? Oh 280 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: my god, but we're fresh meat here, fresh meat, damn man. 281 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: So we we we adapted to the life of like, 282 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: you know, getting chucked in the jungle. Yeah, that's how 283 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: I like And that's how Jayl was so adaptable. We 284 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: were so used to just jumping, just stomping something new 285 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: and being the outsider, going with the flow, you know. 286 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like we've always just we've practiced 287 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: us for so long in our life where now it's 288 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: just come adaptable. You can put us anywhere. Yeah, you 289 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: can put us anywhere. You can put us in a 290 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: jungle and we'll figure out how to do a. 291 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: Podcast talk animals. Yeah, but yeah, coming to Australia, I remember, 292 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: like I was so used to the free life and tommer, 293 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: yeah and say coming here because I couldn't blend in 294 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: with school and friends and all of that stuff. So 295 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: you know, that's why we turned to crime. It was 296 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why we turned to crime. We 297 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: were like, you know, opportunists. We were looking at any 298 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: ways to make money and like to eat without having yeah, 299 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: to live off our parents. 300 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: And like I'll have to say, coming coming from a 301 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: place like Tara, where you're living off the land and. 302 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: You're not you're not expected of anything. 303 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: You know, it's obvious that there's there's shortages of money, 304 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: so it's like a lifestyle there. But they were coming 305 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: to a place like straight out and especially Sydney, you know, 306 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: where everything in the work rate is so increased and it's. 307 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: Like for the Americans there that are out there are watching, 308 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: Sydney will be something similar to New York from what 309 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: I've heard. From what I've heard, Sydney is like similar 310 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: to New York. Everything is just fast face fast. But yeah, 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: I can't I always imagine New York being a bit 312 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: more hectic, man, I feel like New York. I don't 313 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: think we're on that that level New York level yet. 314 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but whenever I see like little snippets of New 315 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: York's subway, something is always happening, but like someone's dying 316 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: or getting shot, or someone's busking on the on the train. 317 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff happening. But just subway. It 318 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: was way too crazy for me. And then you look 319 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: at a place like Sydney. We actually got a good 320 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: hear man, and I think growing up in Sydney, man, 321 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: I think that's what separates Sydney from America and New Zealand. Bro. 322 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: Like the standard here for living is just bro through 323 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: the roof. Everyone's gonna be like. It's not as hectic 324 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: as Dubai, obviously, but Sydney is like the Dubai for Tanne. 325 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: You coming from Tonnel to Sydney, it's like a Dubai. 326 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: Everyone's at a certain level and you've got to keep 327 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: uph otherwise you're left in the curve, you know what 328 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: I mean. 329 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: And I guess that's what all the fresh is back 330 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: home think. You know, we're we're all coming to this, 331 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: you know, place of haven. It's like a Dubai like 332 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: the way they see it in their eyes, they think 333 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: we're making big money, like we're millionaires. Yeah, but bro, 334 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: you come to the phone, now, you come in Sydney, 335 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: you get a chuck straight in the deep end. Bro, 336 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: no one's here to help you. I think that's one 337 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: of the biggest things that I learned working in Sydney 338 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: in the workforce first and any industry, I think networking 339 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: is one of the most important things. You've got to 340 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: know people to get in anywhere. And I have to 341 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: say I've got that's got landed. My first of I 342 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: knew someone, I think it was my cousin or my friend. 343 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: And then throughout all my years of my whole work life, 344 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: I'm always just knowing someone. 345 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: That's how I got in. Yeah, And it's been like 346 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: that for years. Bro, I just realized. I guess that's 347 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: a good strategy living in Sydney, always on keeping your 348 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: network up to date. Not a lot of people, but man, 349 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 3: I've found my life to be ten times more easier 350 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: when I was like getting rid of people. Yeah. I 351 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: think everyone will eventually eventually get to a stage where 352 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: you don't need to know anyone. Yeah, because of how 353 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: much knowledge and how much how far you've gone. 354 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: It's it's a lot better to not know anyone because 355 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: people people also become like leaders. 356 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: In Sydney, you know, everyone's just jumping on each other's backs. 357 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: It's like I feel like in Sydney. How do I 358 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: say it? 359 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 4: Man? 360 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like. 361 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: You felt like a bit of an outcast being a 362 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: Polynesian and jumping straight into the workforce. Did you ever 363 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: feel like you were like kind of categorized into were like, oh, 364 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: this guy's pub. 365 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 3: A construction worker or yeah, well well that's a good 366 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: thing though, that's a good thing. People are hard workers. Yeah, 367 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: no one, No one can deny that. You get to 368 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: any workforce. But and it's a good thing that our 369 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: people are looked at as hard workers. People won't think 370 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: it's a ship thing. Remember Jesus was serving everyone. Jesus 371 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: was a server before he became a leader. Yeah, bars 372 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: never Anyways, it's a good thing that people look at 373 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: us as hard workers because that's how I got as 374 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: far as I could. Because your brain can take you 375 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: so far until your body's got to keep up, you 376 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: know what I mean? And say, you know, as long 377 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: as you're a hard worker, don't worry about the Everything 378 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: you need to know will catch up with you. And 379 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: our people are so talented, so talented, and they work 380 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: so hard, and everyone needs to understand that. 381 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: So looking down on each other, you know, we have 382 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: some of the our cultures that has some of the 383 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: most talented, hardest workers. And I guess that's how I 384 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: navigated my way through through construction. So I se pick 385 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: up jobs some builders and mine. 386 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: You. 387 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: I got out of jail, I didn't know how I 388 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to 389 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: do ship, but I was going out to build it, saying, yeah, 390 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: I've got the guns for this, I can do this 391 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: in one day, I can do this in two weeks 392 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: just making up bullshit, and the builders will full for it. 393 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: That will full for it because of how how hard 394 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: working how people are. 395 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: And then they look at someone like you, you just 396 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: got out of jail and you're jacked up and you're 397 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 4: telling him this old his house in the day, and 398 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, done knows, We'll give the job to you. 399 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: Imageries everything. Yeah, But even when you get to a 400 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: higher level, when you get to a higher level, when 401 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: you're sitting in important rooms and as well. People will 402 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: often believe what you're safe. They know you've got good 403 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: work ethic. 404 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see it in a good way and a 405 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: bad way, and in a bad way in a sense 406 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: where like people see a lot of Polynesians working in 407 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: constructions and we just kind of get category rise just 408 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: to that limited position, you know, not not in a 409 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 4: higher hierarchy, like like a builder, Like I don't know 410 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 4: someone in the hope someone in the high position. Because 411 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: when you see a lot of Islanders like just just 412 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: a normal trade, but now it's changing dramatically, Like there's 413 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: Polynesians jumping into businesses. 414 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, we're killing it. They're making millions. Yeah 415 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: they're not going to say anything, but they're not gonna 416 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: they're they're giving on the download we know heaves. Like 417 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: when I got into the construction industry, I was so shocked. 418 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: But the amount of tongues that were running big companies 419 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: and they were offloading jobs to me. Fuck, that's mad. 420 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, you little shifty country. Yeah you don't 421 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: want to tell them the world? Yeah yeah, but yeah, yeah, 422 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: there are a lot of Islanders doing it big. But 423 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: you have to do big, bro, you can just you 424 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: can just yeah, you can be a normal worker, brand killer. 425 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: I love us making. I love just like man. 426 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: Lately the past few years, I've just loved how basic 427 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 4: my life is and like move my routine, Like I 428 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: just love basic things. I love that jail life. Yeah, 429 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 4: I think jail has made me like that. Jale's really 430 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: really humbled me. And it's so important for me to 431 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: say that because before I went to Dale, I used 432 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: to exalt myself so much times, and especially when I 433 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: was around my brothers, like I always needed to prove something. 434 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: And I feel like in jail I really got humbled. Yeah, 435 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: but I feel like and like there is a verse 436 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: that says that those who exalt themselves will be humbled, 437 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: those who are humble will be exalted by God himself. 438 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: Wow, say sweet, Yeah, I swear to God there's a verse. 439 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: I can't remember what verse. 440 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: Maybe it was in Matthew or Mike or Luke while 441 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: bringing up but yeah, anyways, I have to say, so 442 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: you love the routine life. I love I love the 443 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: routine life. And I'm so thankful that Dale had to 444 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: teach me that. But I couldn't even teach myself that 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: before Dale. 446 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: I had to. I had to get jail, get into 447 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: jail to. 448 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: Teach me a proper routine, routine, and every yeah, you're 449 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: waking up the same time, sleeping at the same time, 450 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: training at the same time. 451 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: Reading books, whatever it is. But everything is like just 452 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: a normal routine. 453 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: And I've arguably kept kept with the same pace, kept 454 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: it the same routine after I got out of jail. 455 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like it's just crazy. I just love 456 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: a simple life of just working and the island. There's 457 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: that love that that sort of life. Usually the fittest, 458 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: usually the fittest for my my like you know, experience, 459 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: I understand love the routine and they're really consistent. 460 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it because I just feel like, you know, 461 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: God has blessed me with so much, and I'm just 462 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: grateful for what I have, you know, I'm grateful for 463 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: everything that I have. I love just to just work 464 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: a normal job. I love to just read my Bible, 465 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: you know. I just love to serve God and my family. 466 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: And I feel like I feel like everyone, every individual 467 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: to their own souls, you know, like you've got to 468 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: see you got to see what you want to pursue 469 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: in life and what's your purpose, you know what I mean. 470 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: I feel like everyone has a different purpose, and for me, 471 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: I just love the basic stuff, you know, the basic routine. 472 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: Speaking of working, let's quickly watch the channel Line news. 473 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: He pretty much exposed to use foreign trainings in there. Yeah. 474 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: So for those of you that don't know, we're in 475 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: the scaffolding game for a very very long time, even 476 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: before we went into Dale. 477 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: It is. Let's have a bit of a reactor to it. 478 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: I want to make money off the streams. We don't 479 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: want to profit off the destruction of our own people. 480 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: Today life looks a lot different. The brothers work hard 481 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: for their cash on your site, earning and honest living 482 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: children maybe heading down the wrong path. There's a little 483 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: snippet of us on the on the construction site. So 484 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: that's actually when I had the green Light trades business. 485 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: And my brothers used to always come and help me 486 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: explain what you were doing there, and I'm surprised how 487 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 3: it was a safe work. I was chucking up trainees 488 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: to Jimmy shadow Jimmy find more. Oh, such a such 489 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: a soldier, you know. You know, when I started the 490 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: scaffolding business, I've got a lot of ex criminals yeah, 491 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: to come on and it. 492 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: Was like it was mad. 493 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: It was the best. 494 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: It was like a little brotherhood, brotherhood group. Bro, it 495 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: was so mad, Like it was just a lot of 496 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: the boys we knew from the past. 497 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: And mind you, we were only slowly changing. This is 498 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: when roads were starting to change. Yeah, but twenty one 499 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: District was still known. Yeah, and the music was still dropping. 500 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: So I remember we were on construction sites and boys 501 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: were like like us twenty one District on the scaffold. 502 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: Like twenty one District. You know how many times we 503 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 4: heard boys on the construction side. And you know, like obviously, 504 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: like after that, my mentality started to change, Like I realized, 505 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: but we can't. 506 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: We can't be doing business and being gangsters. We've got 507 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: to be able to mix with everyone. We've got to 508 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: be able to like you know. That was one of 509 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: the reasons that changed. But it was also so inspiring 510 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: to see the boys. Like we had criminals. So I 511 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: had some boys they're working for me that I was 512 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: in jail with, and it was so inspiring to see 513 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: them come and work because because a lot of people 514 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: look down on nine to five, you know, And all 515 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: it took was for boys to be like oh that 516 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: wrapper Mallek and wrap around God is working on scaffold 517 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: and they're investing in business and they're doing nine to five. 518 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: Just get help them. 519 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: And it was such an inspiring thing to see, like, 520 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: you know, all criminals coming out just to be a 521 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: part of society. 522 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: That's mad. 523 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 4: But I remember that time that was I think we 524 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: got into that mindset. Hey, we really doubled down, we 525 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 4: knuckled down and we just started like we've been on 526 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: the grind ever since those days, all the way up 527 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: the now. Bro. Yeah, the gun has never stopped. And 528 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: I think I think the beauty of it is the 529 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: honest living. I think the honest living is made a 530 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: made a wide impact, not only mentally and physically, but 531 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 4: spiritually as well. It's kind of helped us, yeah, you know, 532 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: just with utmost gratitude and humility, and you know, it's 533 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: just and I think a lot of Islanders here in 534 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 4: Australia like really believe that the fake cash, that bad 535 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: cash will get you out. 536 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: Of your dress. 537 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: And I think it's just you know, it's just hanging 538 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: around the wrong people, like have we always talked about 539 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 4: it and you just get told false hopes from the 540 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: older boys. 541 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of any successful criminal that actually 542 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: made it out? No, not yet. 543 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: No, it's like a false it's a false narrative. But 544 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: it's like it's either like everyone that's that I've ever 545 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: heard of, either it's still on the run or has 546 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: passed away, or is in jail or is injured in 547 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: the hospital. It's always the dark side, you know, never 548 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 4: ever anything good that comes out of it when you're 549 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 4: living that last star. And we just need to make 550 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: sure that you youngins know this, like because I know, 551 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: like they're so blinded, you know, by the money, the cars, 552 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 4: the women. Like remember when we were young, that's what 553 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: we thought, you know, Yeah, this is cool. You know, 554 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 4: that's what we need to do. It's it's not bro, 555 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: We're telling you, you know, we've been through it, and 556 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: like there's it's like, yeah, it's a roller coaster. It's 557 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: a roller coaster, you know, and it leads to more damage. 558 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: It's just if I could think of the richest islander 559 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: I knew when I was part of the game, if 560 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: I can look back now and try to see what 561 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: he was getting up to. Really literally it was gambling 562 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: and parties. Yeah, and gambling parties. And you're running away 563 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: from police and it's a never ending cycle. And a 564 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: lot of Islanders come to Australia tracing that dream of 565 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, coming an outlaw with heed some money 566 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: and it's a dead end. But it's a dead end. 567 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: And I think a bit of it comes from like 568 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: wanting to support your family, like financially as well. I 569 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: can even say that like there's a there's a little 570 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: like I don't know, like a moral ethic inside these Polynesians. 571 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: And I know like most of them just want to 572 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: support their family. Yeah. 573 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: I think they're just so blinded by the quick cash 574 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: and quick money. I've seen it so many times, but 575 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: like they want to do bad stuff to get quick 576 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: money to support your friends. Not only that, bro, not 577 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: only the island. There's hard workers in the in the 578 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: working industry. But yeah, Islanders are doing a lot of 579 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: the bad stuff on the streets. But Island is doing 580 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: the worst, the most heinous of crimes when the heats 581 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: and everything. 582 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and say, and you'd be surprised you to support 583 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: their own family. A lot of them are doing it 584 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: to support that. Yeah, So what do you say about that? 585 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: Like, well, does that kind of justify what they're they 586 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: do or nah, because we spoke about this a lot 587 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 4: like this is the problem. 588 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: But you are the most important part of your family. 589 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: Once you're out of the picture, you're either dead or 590 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: you're in jail, then your family becomes vulnerable for everything, 591 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: the whole family, whatever kingdom you're building, will crumble down 592 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: as soon as you're out of the picture. That is 593 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: the most important thing. That is more important than having money. 594 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: You can you can make half a meal and give 595 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: it to your family and think, yeah, fuck it, I'll 596 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: get your ten years. That ten years is gonna be help, 597 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: especially for ladies, especially for kids, people that don't know 598 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: how to handle that money. We don't know how to 599 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: handle that money. You know, what are you gonna do 600 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: with half a meal or like a meal? Yeah, I 601 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: truly believe in jail. 602 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: I truly believe that you'll never be able to be 603 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: satisfied if you're that rich and you're not able to 604 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: spend it with family. 605 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 606 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: Like, man, if you have if you have money and 607 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: you're not able to spend it with family, you're always 608 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: gonna be like chasing, chasing. I feel like I feel 609 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: like that's where true happiness is as well, like being 610 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: able to spend with family, spend on your family. 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: I feel like that's where you create memories. 612 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: You create memories, and then this whole life becomes like, Okay, 613 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: now I know my purpose. 614 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: It's serving my family and god, well yeah that's all right. 615 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: Like sometimes it takes so much years for these boys 616 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: to figure it out for themselves. Sometimes you just got 617 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: to hit rock bottom and just sit in yourself in 618 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: the sky and be like, fuck, I'm really are grounk. 619 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are the most important part of a family. 620 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Of the family. I know a lot of us boys 621 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: get it wrong and think, but I've gotta make this money. 622 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: One of us has got to be the black sheep. Yeah, 623 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: that's what I used to think. I used to think, Fuck, 624 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: one of us is gotta be bad, so one of 625 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: us is gotta like call the shots and like do 626 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: do shit on the side because we're not gonna get 627 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: we're not gonna get rich being a gin yeah, and 628 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: then abject everyone. But it doesn't work like that because 629 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: once you're out of the picture. I've been out of 630 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: the picture from my family for a lot of years, 631 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: and now that I'm married as well, that is something 632 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: I don't want to do. Be out of the picture, 633 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: because once you're out of the picture, Bro, your partner 634 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: can Your partner can get assaulted, Your parents can get assaulted, 635 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: your family can get assault vulnerable. Where's your million dollars 636 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: when that happens? Where's your million dollars? Where's your where's 637 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: all your money? When? When when your family get hurt 638 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: or someone or when your family you know what I mean. 639 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: We don't need that much in life, bro. We just 640 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: need to sleep. Repeat, that's it. Heaven. Yes, a man 641 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: that's chopping bars. I think our our other Berri is 642 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: just walking in because my phone's blowing up. Yeah. Anyways, 643 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 3: the other brother doesn't that it is already bad from 644 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: Polynesian talks because he's not allowed to speak on Polynesia 645 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: ever yet. 646 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: Especially Polynesian history. So it's it's funny because that's that's 647 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: what washing ourself back there. 648 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: And that's enough on that subject before we get shot. Lad, 649 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: we don't want to know ship about that fucker, Neil. 650 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: We're not ready to get entangled. 651 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 4: I see someone someone else send us some mad videos, bro, 652 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: I'm sick of reacting to this video. 653 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: You know, Polynesians in Australia. Maybe we can extend this 654 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: yarn when Jay's here. Joe car another episode. Thank you 655 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: guys for tuning in. This is one Godie and Malik. 656 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna quickly share this Oxy ship money I'll give 657 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 3: you to taste the first. It's everything, guys. We got 658 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: more Oxy shirt like waiting outside of the room. All right, 659 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: so we're gonna go back out. 660 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 4: We're gonna grab Jay, so we're gonna come back after 661 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: this quick outbreak. 662 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: Let us go. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This is 663 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: Brosen con Cauz who