WEBVTT - Sugar Neekz Johnson: THE CHALLENGE AUSTRALIA - TALENT

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>I have the latest eliminated contestant from Channel ten's new

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<v Speaker 1>reality show The Challenge Australia. It is fighter and the

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<v Speaker 1>ring peacekeeper on our screens. It's Sugar Nicks Johnson. Sugar

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<v Speaker 1>is a female pro boxer, winning major championships and making

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<v Speaker 1>a name for herself around the world. Born in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 1>but when fighting internationally, she represents Australia. This is her

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<v Speaker 1>first reality TV show, but something tells me we are

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<v Speaker 1>bound to see more of her as she was a

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<v Speaker 1>great addition to the series. Sugar did make alliances and

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<v Speaker 1>made headlines across the country for rumors that started after

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<v Speaker 1>Leake suggested that she had a fight with one of

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<v Speaker 1>her major competitors. It also seemed like her pairing with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gallagher was the main reason for her exit, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk about that in today's podcast. We will

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<v Speaker 1>also get to the bottom of her rumored beef with

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Matuzi, what it was like to be a reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV star, Who she knew or what I probably should

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<v Speaker 1>say who she didn't know, And of course I'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>her my top five questions, which will leave her no

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<v Speaker 1>room to duck and weave as she dishes the dirt

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<v Speaker 1>on her fellow cast members. However, let's get started with

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<v Speaker 1>today's guest. I'd like to welcome Sugar from the Challenge

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<v Speaker 1>Australia to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>What's involved in reality TV streams, teamwork, resilience, each to

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<v Speaker 2>their own and I don't judge r I don't criticize.

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar's a box art, She's a warrior.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be carnage. It was crazy because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite icd so I actually don't know how I

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<v Speaker 2>lived in that room as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is a matchup before being waiting to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did this even come from? Like I sort of

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<v Speaker 2>have to just laugh about it, because what else can

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<v Speaker 2>you do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan and Sugar, you were the losers of tonight's elimination.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the people with bigger personalities and more of

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<v Speaker 2>the dramall sort of overtook the line light there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Sugar, how are you good morning?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you end up on a show like The

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<v Speaker 1>Challenge Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up on that show because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>challenge myself. I knew that there was money on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that I would be a good run

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<v Speaker 2>for my money to actually win the money. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>quite competitive and I wanted to give it a crack.

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<v Speaker 1>You also said, you know, when I was reading about

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<v Speaker 1>all the contestants, you revealed in your profile that you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually a quiet person. Was this a real shock to

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<v Speaker 1>the system to be amongst so many people known for

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<v Speaker 1>their big personalities.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a little bit. It took a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>for me to adapt to everyone in the house and

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<v Speaker 2>just the different personalities. But I understand everyone is, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, each to their own and I don't judge

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<v Speaker 2>or I don't criticize, So it was just a different experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I took it all on like a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a learning curve.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to a lot of events where you see

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different people from reality shows and you always

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<v Speaker 1>get put together, and I always was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the reality show, this is what should be on television,

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<v Speaker 1>because drama seems to just find itself there. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you think of reality TV contestants before doing the show?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, to be honest, I actually never really watched TV

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm too busy training or going to bed early.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I first come onto the show, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>extremely rude because I was like, sorry, who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what is what show that you were on? So

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<v Speaker 2>I was still learning about what shows everyone was on

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<v Speaker 2>when I got onto the house, and then it's like, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I see now I see sort of what's involved in

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the one that was the most offended for

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<v Speaker 1>you not knowing who they were?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think anyone really took offense, not

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<v Speaker 2>that I knew of anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night, it was interesting to watch the show because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were safe in the first part of the

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<v Speaker 1>double episode, which was interesting to see. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that they couldn't lose you because of the drama

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<v Speaker 1>that Ryan and Emily had been creating at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the producers were like, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to save these people and give them another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. There was big arguments in the

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<v Speaker 2>house about this, whether it was rigged to be like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we need the drama here in the house, but who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the challenge, and I feel like maybe they just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to spice it up a bit. It wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>halfway mark, but I wasn't complaining. I was still in

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<v Speaker 2>the house and able to compete for the money.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were also being dragged into some of Ryan's drama.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that make you feel at the time, Because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm talking to you right now. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like the sort of person that attaches themselves to drama,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Did you feel like Ryan dragged

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<v Speaker 1>you into his mess?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that he was a part of my alliance.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a friend of mine, and I knew that I

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<v Speaker 2>was going into the drama and that side of the

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<v Speaker 2>house with the alliance, and I was happy just to

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<v Speaker 2>take that on board, even though I wasn't involved in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the drama. I knew what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on and where my spot was in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that it was also fair for the

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<v Speaker 1>producers to cancel or whoever the powers that be, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it was fair for them to cancel that

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<v Speaker 1>birthday party on the yacht?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was probably probably a good call because there

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<v Speaker 2>may have been a bit more dramas on the boat

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<v Speaker 2>out on the water there with alcohol involved. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was a good call. And I guess we're never

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<v Speaker 2>going to know because we never went out on that

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<v Speaker 2>boat that day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't get off the boat, Sugar, so

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're on the boat, you know that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>too much. So I think it's probably the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Was it one hundred percent because of that

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<v Speaker 1>fight between Conrad and Ryan or do you think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a combination of all the fights that were going on.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I just think the tension between Ryan and Conrad

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<v Speaker 2>and then the tension between the Batchy alliance and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of my alliance was just really heated. The tension in

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<v Speaker 2>the house was just crazy, Like I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be stepping on no one's toes.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise somebody would probably would have went off the boat

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. Do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always think of my boy Marley because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow winner of Big Brother. I feel like we are

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<v Speaker 1>not getting as much from Marley. I wanted to know

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<v Speaker 1>if your take on him, is he really quiet while

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<v Speaker 1>the show was going on, or are we just not seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, enough of him? It was maybe the drama

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<v Speaker 1>was more about other people, so we're not getting to

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<v Speaker 1>see enough of Marley.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Marley was such a cool dude. Really really got

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<v Speaker 2>along with him. He's really down to earth, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he was a little bit of a flow

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<v Speaker 2>cell like myself, Like he just got along with everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the house. I think the people with bigger personalities

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<v Speaker 2>and more of the drama sort of overtook the line

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<v Speaker 2>light there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently one of your competitors, someone that's already left the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>said that there was a bit of a run in

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<v Speaker 1>with you and Susan in the first couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>We obviously don't need to get into the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>details of that, but was there any truth over beef

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<v Speaker 1>between you and Susan?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all that I did entertain that story because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't true at all. So I had no need

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<v Speaker 2>to really comment on it.

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<v Speaker 1>This must be strange for you to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>media in this capacity and have your name dragged into

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I mean, it's so strange when something

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<v Speaker 1>gets a headline and it's completely untrue. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>wonder who makes this stuff up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just like, where did this even come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I sort of have to just laugh about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because what else can you do about it? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was there, we were all there, we knew it wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, social media is crazy and where these stories

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<v Speaker 2>come up from. I don't know whether it be somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's jealous or just trying to maybe look bad or

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what it is, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>too worried because I know what I did and I

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<v Speaker 2>know it wasn't true, So no need to entertain the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I love your attitude on that. You know, Kiki's

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<v Speaker 1>injury has been the topic of conversation, even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being factored into these negotiations that were going on. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think her leaving the competition with having an injury

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<v Speaker 1>is too big of a disaster because losing one person

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<v Speaker 1>would mean that there'd be uneven numbers and they need

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<v Speaker 1>to have those, you know, those duos.

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<v Speaker 2>From my understanding, from what I would think, if Kicky

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<v Speaker 2>was to get eliminated from as like injury, her partner

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<v Speaker 2>would have to go as well, because, like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>it's appaired challenges, so you can't really do it on

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<v Speaker 2>your own.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting. I kept thinking that would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be the case, because you couldn't just leave one person there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would just be unfair. But how would

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<v Speaker 1>you have felt if you'd been eliminated because your your

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<v Speaker 1>teammate had an injury.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hard one, Like I would have been upset

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<v Speaker 2>because I would have wanted to keep going to the

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<v Speaker 2>end and it wasn't me at fault. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an injury is like, there's a life outside of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>so things are more important than being in there at

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<v Speaker 2>that moment. It was life threatening or you know she's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a broken back or needs surgery, then

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<v Speaker 2>so be it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I guess that. You know. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things of the season was in the second

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<v Speaker 1>part of the double episode last night, which was you

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<v Speaker 1>going up against Emily, and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a really fair fight between the two of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that Emily was your strongest competitor in

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<v Speaker 1>the competition?

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<v Speaker 2>Most definitely. She's a fantastic man. Look at what she's done.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't many of years, So she's done the hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>She knows what it's like to be fit, healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>compete on the world stage along with myself. So she

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely my strongest competitor in the aw.

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<v Speaker 1>See, she looks like she's got some people up against her, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for her now, I'm like, how's she

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<v Speaker 1>going to survive another episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone's everyone's got a target on him now for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you said last night, just as you were

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the competition, you know you look forward to other opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there some other shows that you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>see yourself on? Is there anything out there that you think, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a taste for a reality now I've set

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<v Speaker 1>my sight on that.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's something competitive, yeah, I definitely want to get

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<v Speaker 2>better crack. I always liked the look of sas that

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be something right up my alley. But if it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really competitive, then I'm not really interested in doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a boxing career to focus on, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at the highest of where I'm at the moment, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's my number one priority.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a busy woman. One of the last things I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to ask you is is there anything about

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge that you would change? I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big franchise that's happening around the world, which you've

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<v Speaker 1>been lucky to take part in. You know, is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the way in which the competition works that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd change?

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<v Speaker 2>I think from watching the previous some of the other shows,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's really different all the time, Like sometimes they'll

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<v Speaker 2>do single challenges where you have to compete on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>You may stay with your partner the whole time to

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<v Speaker 2>the show. For me, I just took this as it came,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't really know what to expect. But it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see to see you actually do the

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<v Speaker 2>challenges and compete on your own, because then that way

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<v Speaker 2>it's on you. It's not on anyone else, Whether you

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<v Speaker 2>win or you it's on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you make a fair point there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that's been on the podcast, I've asked them these

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<v Speaker 1>top five need to know questions. It's like a rapid

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<v Speaker 1>fire thing. You don't have to go into too much detail.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also plead the fifth if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but are you ready to play the game?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the nicest person in the competition?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to say Marley.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were the biggest villains?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Who would be the biggest villain in the show?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Comma?

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have thought the guy from Master Chef would

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<v Speaker 1>be this? You know there would be this villain. It's

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<v Speaker 1>he's serving something spicy, that's for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, very spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is the messiest person to live with?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably my roommates Bryan Grant, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard that the smell of that room is

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<v Speaker 1>so bad that people had to keep telling them to

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<v Speaker 1>clean the room. And I then realized that you were

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<v Speaker 1>living with them, and I was sharing that space, and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt bad for you. You must have had some

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<v Speaker 1>strong impulse deodorant to wear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just like my little corner of the room.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like spotless. It was crazy because I'm quite

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<v Speaker 2>icd so I actually don't know how I lived in

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<v Speaker 2>that room as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Just imagine you waking up and trying to wipe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Grant down with a with a squeegee, you know, come on, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>pick up your game. Who is the funniest person in there?

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<v Speaker 2>The funniest Johnny was pretty funny, like he was a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool character. And I find a funny side to

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<v Speaker 2>Surroul as well. I think she's cyclone, she's she's a

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<v Speaker 2>cool check, she's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I like her as well. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>I could live with her, but I love to watch

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<v Speaker 1>her on television. Who do you want to win? Not

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<v Speaker 1>who you maybe might know who's going to get close

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<v Speaker 1>to the end, but like when you left the competition

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, who did you want to win?

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<v Speaker 2>I want Emily and Grant to win, either of them

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<v Speaker 2>because they are a part of my line. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would prefer, like you know, we got kicked out one

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<v Speaker 2>of my alliances to win, and I feel like anyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the show would want somebody in the alliance to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar, I just want to say thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the podcast. I was so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>chat with you this morning. I'm glad that we put

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<v Speaker 1>that Susan rumor to bed. Now it's come from the

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<v Speaker 1>horse's mouth, everyone can back off. I really loved you

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<v Speaker 1>on the show and I can't wait to see what

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<v Speaker 1>you do next. I'll have to come and watch you

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<v Speaker 1>fight in the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that'd be great. I'm probably going to be overseas next,

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<v Speaker 2>but next time I'm here in Melbourne or here in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hit me up. I think it would be awkward

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<v Speaker 1>at this point if I fly overseas to watch you,

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<v Speaker 1>it might seem like I'm stalking.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, that's all right, that's all right. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>the support.

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<v Speaker 1>No, all good. Thanks so much for the chat.