1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Jum Mission with Jonesy and Amanda Well. For the last 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: five or so weeks, I've been banging on about a 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: new show. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Called White Lotus. 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: It's dropped once a week finales tonight, Jones Are you binged? 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Where we're up to on the weekend? My tummy is 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: full of white Loas. 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is. It is such an 9 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: interesting program. It's unsettling, it's funny, it's caustic. And the 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: star of the show is an Australian who now lives 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: in La Murray Bartlett. He plays Armand, the resort manager 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: at this Hawaiian resort where all the big white richies 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: go to have a fabulous holiday. 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: And on the surface, Armon's got it all together, hasn't. 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: He unravels in a spectacular way. Murray Bartlet, Hello, Hi, 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: so oh, it's so nice to talk to you. When 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: I first heard about this show, I well, none of 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: us knew what to expect. But from the minute it starts, 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: you know something extraordinary is going to happen. And then 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: my hands are all prickly just talking about it because 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: the small little bits and pieces you scratch the surface 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: of every character and there's something awkward and uncomfortable. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: It's just so enjoyable. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm glad to hear you say that. Yeah, I think. 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: You know. Mike White, who's the writer, creator, director of 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: this show, is brilliant in that he you know, he 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: just writes really complex characters, and he also writes, you know, 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: incredibly funny scenes, but they have this kind of, you know, 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: real edge to them, so you're you're laughing, but you 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: feel like someone's also sticking with you with a knife. 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: And the opening scene has a body going onto a plane, 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: and so someone dies out of the cast, and I 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: just presumed that it was the Bride that the dye. 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Why would you watch you? 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: Amanda and I were talking earlier and she said, well, then, no, 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: it's not the Bride, And I went because my wife 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: and I have been watching the whole show and I'm 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: thinking it's a shame she's going to die because I 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: really like her. And then this morning the bombshell would 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: dropped this it might not be her, so I don't know. 41 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the amazing thing about this writing. Again, 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: you know, he's also woven this like suspense kind of 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: thread through it, so it's kind of kind of keeps 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: you guessing, and it could be, you know, any one 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: of a few people that bites the dust in the end. 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: So it's it's kind of brilliant in that it helps 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: you along that way. It sure does. 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your character. Did you have fun with 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: Armand because you start being very proper and particular and 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: then you just got you unwine in an extraordinary way. 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: Did you have fun? 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean it's you know, this kind of character 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: is kind of like an actor's dream, you know, because 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: he's such a rollercoaster and it is i mean, the 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: whole setup of the character. You know, he's the manager 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: of the hotel, so he has this very public facade, 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: but he's also got this really kind of intent inner 58 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: life that's bubbling away underneath, and you get to show 59 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: both in this show, you know, and it's it's you know, 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: it's it's not often that you get such an incredibly 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: sort of rich character that gets to fully express themselves, 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: all the elements of themselves. So it was it was, 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: you know, it was it was challenging at times for sure, 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: just trying to find the levels of that, but incredibly fun. 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you always have moments of terror at the 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: beginning of each job and then once that passes. With 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: this job anyway, it was just you know, a lot 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: of fun and an amazing group of people, obviously incredible 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: cast and Mike White, the create a director writer guy 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: is just creates this a really wonderful sense of play 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: on set. So we really had a great time. 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: Everyone is talking about the sex scene in episode four. 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: So you shot this during you shot this during COVID, 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: So I'm presuming that you would have had intimacy advice 75 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: At what point in COVID is it this is where 76 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: you put your face into another man's bump. 77 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: That's really like CDC recommendations, isn't you know? We're all 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: we're all locked down together in this resort in Hawaii, 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: so we were we went through a kind of a 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: rigorous sort of COVID protocol to get there, and then 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: we were quarantined and then we couldn't leave for the 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: resort for the three months or we were shooting there. 83 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: So you know, we were all trusting that each other was, 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: you know, completely safe. But yeah, I mean doing a 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: thing like that is all he could catch many things 86 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: I guess could get and it's always a little awkward 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: but you know, in the spirit of the show, a 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: lot of fun. 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: How was it living in a resort for three months? 90 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a beautiful looking resort. I've heard that 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: it's the Four Seasons in Hawaii, although they don't call 92 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: it that, but it looks amazing. Was that a fun 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: thing or was it weird? 94 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: I mean it was It was a lot of things. 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: You know, we were in the middle of lockdowns here 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: in the US, and so we were all plucked out 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: of our COVID pods and you know, not a expecting 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: to work because the industry was was, you know, largely 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: shut down, and then suddenly we were like flying to 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: Hawaii and in this kind of incredibly beautiful place. So 101 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: it was it was amazing and it was it Also, 102 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: it all felt very surreal. We couldn't leave the Result, 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: but we could go down to the beach in front, 104 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: so that was beautiful. But it was, Yeah, it had 105 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: this very odd kind of feeling to it because the 106 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: rest of you know, the rest of the country was 107 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: completely locked down and we'd come from that, so we 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 3: felt incredibly lucky. But there was something slightly eerie about 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: about it as well, because the result was empty. You know, 110 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: it was shut down be COVID, which is partly why 111 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: we could shoot there. But it was, I mean, it 112 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: was it was joyful and like a gorgeous place to work. 113 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: So we all felt, you know, every day I woke out, 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: looked out and saw palm trees and felt incredibly lucky. 115 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: Can't be a bad thing. 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Can't be a bad thing. And no one tried to 117 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: stop you being Australian. They didn't try and make it 118 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: turn you into having to have an accent or anything. 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: No. The woman who cast it, who is, you know, 120 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 3: a college friend of Mike White actually and been a 121 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: casting casting agent in New York for for years. I've 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: been to many many castings for her over the years, 123 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: and so I think she pitched me as an Australian, 124 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: and Mike liked that idea because it's, you know, it's 125 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: a resort, and there's people from all over the world 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: who work in that industry and sort of end up 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: in different places. So it kind of made sense. And weirdly, 128 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I mean, he wrote such an 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: amazing character, and then when you added the Australian accent 130 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: to it, it seemed to just really kind of work 131 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: very well, so, yeah, it was. It was kind of 132 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: a it was it was a sweet thing that came together. 133 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's a dream job when you look at it. 134 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: You stuck in Hawaii for three months. Sure. Yeah. 135 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't talk to many people about it. You know, 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: I felt embarrassed because it was it was COVID times, 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: particularly my active friends. You know, it was like it 138 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: just seemed completely unfair. It was unfair. But we were, 139 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: you know, we were quietly lapping it up over there. 140 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: Yes, the same. 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 4: And you can see Matt Murray lap it up. Catch 142 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: the White Ladys season finale tonight on Foxtel. Congratulations Murray, 143 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: it is so good. Your your portrayal of as Armand 144 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: is amazing. 145 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait for tonight. Thank you. 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: No, I was great to talk to you. 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: Watch White Laders on Foxtel is absolutely amazing. 149 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: And on Binge, Jonesy and Amanda's gamation