1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Joining us on the line is the Member for Solomon 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Luke Gosling. Good morning to you, Luke, Katie Luke. I 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: mean you and I have spoken before actually about housing, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: but I know that it is something that's been on 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: your mind for a while. Was interesting this morning having 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: that discussion with laws and Broad from Somerville and talking 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: about some of the stress that people are under when 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: it comes to housing. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that Lawson makes some really good points. 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: And back in the day I worked in with social 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: housing with Vinni's and it's one of the best things 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: we can do actually, because we need to make sure 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: that people have got a decent place that live that's affordable. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: Now I think Darwin rents have gone up the most 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: of anywhere in the country and that obviously makes it 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: really difficult for young people to get started, or for 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: people of any age really, so I think we need 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: to be doing more. Schedule labor is already announced in 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: government will have a ten billion dollar Housing Australia Fund 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: and the idea of that is to build more affordable housing. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: And that's going to be great not only for people 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: being able to have a roof over their head that 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: they can actually afford but it's also great for the 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: construction industry as well, so at the bonus that way 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: as well. 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Now, Luke, the other topic that we have been speaking 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: about this morning, and we just spoke to Matt Tinkler 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: from Save the Children, the deputy CEO there. We know 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: that there were Afghani refugees that arrived in Darwin overnight. 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Do you have much detail in terms of the number 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: of people who arrived overnight? 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are two hundred people that come in Codie 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: and I've been speaking with the Minister's office just to 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: ascertain that mix up. What that there was a combination 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: of Australian nationals who were working in Afghana the standard 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: also Afghan nationals with Australian visas and there was two 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: hundred in total. And they're here at Howard Springs. But 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: obviously I don't know where they are at here, but 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: there's an international part in the domestic part, but they're 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: out here. And the Home Affairs Department are basically saying 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: if they've got contacts in the community and there are 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: bigger Afghan communities down south, then they will be settled 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: with those communities where they're going to have some support, 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: But obviously there's a lot of organizations and individuals in Darwin. 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: Should there be family members here or should any any 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: of those really want to come and settle in Darwin. 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: There's certainly plenty of people have been in touch with 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: me saying that they want to help them. 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Luke, you said that you've been in 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: contact with the Minister's office about that breakdown of how 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: many of those people were actually Australian nationals coming home 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: and how many are refugees. Did they give you much 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: of an idea when it comes to that breakdown. 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: No, they didn't, but now they said they'll get back 55 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: to me. But all up, they've got back about two 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: thousand people. When we evacuated people out of Kabul, it 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: was to Jubai where there's a joint base called AIDMAB 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: and they were settled there temporarily for checks. And now 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: I think there's two thousand and they said that have 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: a right back in Australia and most of those will 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: be settled down south. But yeah, obviously they've been through 62 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: a traumatic time. They would be relieved to be out, 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: but also obviously concerned about those that are left behind 64 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: because there's not a lot of good news coming out 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: of Afghanistan. 66 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: Kadie, No, there really isn't. It's been absolutely so sad 67 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: to see, you know, the vision and what is going 68 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: on over there. I think that it is a good 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: thing that we have some of those refugees obviously back 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: here on home soil, particularly here in Darwin and quarantining 71 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: out there at Howard Springs. But there's still a lot 72 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: of people, by the sounds of it, that are in danger. 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're continually making contact and I'm just sort 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: of encouraging them to work through the people the internationals 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: that they work with, whether it be with a UN 76 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: organization or another aid organization, because there's got to be 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: a team effort. For twenty years, it was a team 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: effort to try and make a difference there, and there 79 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: will be a lot of critics about the lack of 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: purpose we had or direction that we had about what 81 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: we're trying to achieve there in time, but that'll all 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: come out. We've launched a Senate inquiry to look at 83 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: the Afghanistan deployment over twenty years because we've obviously got 84 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: to learn some lessons, so there'll be a lot of 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: hopefully a lot of good lessons learned out of that deployment. 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: One of them is that you know, when you send 87 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: people overseas, they've got to know what they're there for 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: and what the mission is, and we have the country 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: supportive of them. I know we're all supportive of our 90 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: troops when they're overseas, but we need just be clearer 91 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: in those decisions when we make them. So I think 92 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: that inquiry is a good idea. And just thanks to 93 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: everyone who's been showing their solidarity with both our veterans 94 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: and their families. 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we are going to have to get ready 96 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: to wrap up because we've got a head across to 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the national news. But mate, when did you arrive in 98 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: quarantine in Howard Springs? 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh at two am this morning? 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: How's it and how's it been so far? 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: Well? I walked into me a little longer. I nearly 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: prosed to death the ac pumped up so high. But 103 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: they have delivered a little breakfast this morning, and you look, 104 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: I can't complain all. You know, it was important for 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: or the territory to be represented down in Parliament. I've 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: done that now. So I'm going to do my time 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: here and we'll hopefully all being well, well, I know 108 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: I'm negative testing Campbell before I come back, but I'll 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: be able to join my family for my fiftieth birthday 110 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: on the seventeenth of September. 111 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh well, hopefully time for that. Ah good stuff. Well, 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: no doubt, we'll probably talk to you before then. Louke Gosling, 113 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the member for Solomon. We appreciate your time this morning, 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: particularly given the early start that you've had, if you've 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: even slept overnight, arriving at two am. 116 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Caudian upon can get a quick plug in. 117 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: I'm going to be jogging on the spot on Sunday 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: for the roam oh little balcony, So if. 119 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: Anyone is feeling a bit generous, a bit of a 120 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: Henry Lawson or what are the twenty dollar bills called again, 121 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: I can't remember in the Pineapple, Yeah fifty. 122 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: But on my Facebook side is a great cause run 123 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: with Dad. Yeah, I'm raising money for fighting prostate cancer 124 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: and men's health in general. So jump onto my Facebook 125 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: if you and give us a hand with a bit 126 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: of a lobster. 127 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: All right, well, good on you, Luke Gosling. And obviously 128 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: that's going to be something that I think is well 129 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: worth supporting because it is a fun run that I 130 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: founded a few years ago. So mate, thank you very 131 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: much for your support on Run with Dad, And you'll 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: have to send us a photo of you just running 133 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: around that little balcony I think out there at Howard's Breaks. 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: That's one of my Facebook already where I'm just jogging 135 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: on the spot doing the warm up in two tho 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: ninety eight. It's the most pathetic warm up you've ever 137 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: seen anyone do. But it's on my Facebook if you 138 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: want to have a laugh. It also donated or great cause. 139 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Well don't you? 140 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Good on you. Thank you Luke, thanks for your time today.