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Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the Dahlias. It's Thursday, the
Speaker 3: thirtieth of May.
Speaker 4: I'm zara, I'm sam.
Speaker 3: The country has been rocked by yet another story of
Speaker 3: men's violence against women after a Perth man killed a
Speaker 3: mother and daughter on Friday. To believe, the man, a
Speaker 3: licensed gun owner, was looking for his ex partner at
Speaker 3: the time of the incident. In the wake of this,
Speaker 3: the shooter's daughter has issued a public statement about what
Speaker 3: she says is a failure by Wa police to adequately
Speaker 3: address safety concerns that she and her mother had had
Speaker 3: about her father. She claims that she quote raised the
Speaker 3: alarm about her father three times and was subsequently ignored.
Speaker 3: In today's podcast, we're going to discuss what we know
Speaker 3: about the incident, the investigation now being launched, and how.
Speaker 1: The WA government has responded. But first the headlines.
Speaker 4: A peer built by the US to supply aid to
Speaker 4: civilians in Gaza has broken due to rough seas. The
Speaker 4: US Department of Defense said it was quote working to
Speaker 4: recover three of four vessels associated with the Peer, which
Speaker 4: was built several weeks ago. Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina
Speaker 4: Singh said the Peer proved highly valuable in delivering aid
Speaker 4: to the people of Gaza. Thus, upon completion of the
Speaker 4: Peer repair and reassembly, the intention is to re anchor
Speaker 4: the temporary Peer to the coast of Gaza and resume
Speaker 4: humanitarian aid to the people who need it most. It's
Speaker 4: expected the repairs will take more than a week.
Speaker 3: A suspected Ticketmaster hack could have exposed the personal details
Speaker 3: of around five hundred and sixty million customers. A hacker
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Speaker 3: an unverified screenshot from the dark web, shiny Hunters claimed
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Speaker 3: including the names, phone numbers, addresses, and card details of
Speaker 3: Live Nation and Ticketmaster customers. TBA reached out to Ticketmaster
Speaker 3: for comment, but hadn't heard back at the time of recording.
Speaker 4: Prices rose by three point six percent in the twelve
Speaker 4: months to April twenty twenty four. That's according to new
Speaker 4: figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics. Inflation figures for
Speaker 4: April are up point one percent from the previous month.
Speaker 4: That means everyday goods and services cost three point six
Speaker 4: percent more in April twenty twenty four than they did
Speaker 4: last April. Alcohol and tobacco prices, housing and transport saw
Speaker 4: some of the biggest increases over the past twelve months.
Speaker 3: And today's good news. Findings from a peanut allergy study
Speaker 3: could lead researchers to understand ways of preventing food allergies
Speaker 3: more broadly. A King's College London study found evidence that
Speaker 3: exposing young children to peanuts cannot reduce their risk of
Speaker 3: developing an allergy. Said those who avoided peanuts at a
Speaker 3: young age were more likely to be allergic than people
Speaker 3: who'd consumed.
Speaker 1: Peanuts during infancy.
Speaker 3: The study concluded that long term prevention and tolerance is
Speaker 3: possible with food allergies.
Speaker 4: Zara, this is a really distressing story we're going to
Speaker 4: be speaking about today. Why don't we start with a
Speaker 4: high level explanation of what exactly happened in Perth this week.
Speaker 3: Sure, so, at about four to twenty pm on Friday,
Speaker 3: a man entered a home in the Perth suburb of Floriate.
Speaker 3: And before I go on any feather, just want to
Speaker 3: say from the outset that will refer to him either
Speaker 3: as the man, the perpetrator, the shooter up, but not
Speaker 3: by his name, and that's just a choice the Dahlios
Speaker 3: has made. So in the home home that this man
Speaker 3: entered was fifty nine year old Jennifer Pedelchik and her
Speaker 3: eighteen year old daughter, Gretel. Now it's believed that the
Speaker 3: man was looking for his former partner, who was Jennifer's friend.
Speaker 3: The man, who was a licensed gun owner, proceeded to
Speaker 3: shoot both Jennifer and Gretel and then himself. He and
Speaker 3: Jennifer died at the scene and Gretel later died in hospital.
Speaker 3: His former partner was not at the home.
Speaker 4: A really horrific incident. And since it's happened, we've actually
Speaker 4: heard from the shooter's daughter, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, So the shooter's daughter, Ariel Bombara, issued a video
Speaker 3: statement this week, and I must say it was completely remarkable.
Speaker 3: In it, the young woman said that she along with
Speaker 3: her mother, had fled her family home two months ago
Speaker 3: quote in fear of our lives and to remove ourselves
Speaker 3: from an abusive situation. So there she's talking about fleeing
Speaker 3: from the home that her father was occupying at the time.
Speaker 3: She said that she alerted police to her father's dangerous
Speaker 3: behavior multiple times prior to the incident that unfolded last Friday,
Speaker 3: and according to Ariel, she contacted police on three separate occasions.
Speaker 3: She said that she told police that she and her
Speaker 3: mother feared for their lives and that she flagged concern
Speaker 3: about her father's access to guns, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: go back to that in just a second. Her statement
Speaker 3: said that she applied for a temporary protective order against
Speaker 3: her father, so that was something that would have put
Speaker 3: in place a measure that had to protect them and
Speaker 3: had to keep him away, but that police rejected that
Speaker 3: specific request. Ariel said that she and her mother were
Speaker 3: repeatedly ignored and that they were failed and that to
Speaker 3: direct quote by wa police, and that further actions could
Speaker 3: have prevented the murders of these two women we saw
Speaker 3: on Friday. I do just want to play out a
Speaker 3: bit of aerial statement now because it is just so
Speaker 3: moving and I cannot imagine what it has taken for
Speaker 3: her in the wake of such tragedy. You know, she
Speaker 3: has both lost two people that she knew they were
Speaker 3: family friends in an act of senseless violence. But in
Speaker 3: the same vein her father is responsible for these deaths.
Speaker 3: So here are the words of Ariel.
Speaker 5: We were ignored by five different male officers across three
Speaker 5: occasions of reporting. By that point, we felt completely helpless
Speaker 5: and I had to focus on getting mum to safety.
Speaker 5: I did everything I could to protect my mother, and
Speaker 5: when my father couldn't find us, he murdered her best
Speaker 5: friend and her best friend's daughter.
Speaker 4: It truly is a remarkable statement that she delivered. So
Speaker 4: she's basically alleging there that the police did not take
Speaker 4: appropriate action. Yeah, and that itself is a really serious
Speaker 4: issue and a really serious allegation.
Speaker 3: Because I mean, I think this is where a lot
Speaker 3: of anger is lying at the moment with these conversations,
Speaker 3: is that you know, we're talking about investments in prevention,
Speaker 3: and we're talking about all of these things, and yet
Speaker 3: we've seen now a number of incidents whether it be
Speaker 3: about our bay laws or something else about the way
Speaker 3: that things are happening, in the way that processes are
Speaker 3: happening that aren't protecting women.
Speaker 4: And so what has the response then been from WA Police.
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 3: WA Police's Internal Investigations Unit has launched an investigation into
Speaker 3: these allegations, and that's in response to this specific video statement.
Speaker 3: It'll focus on the three interactions that Aeriel highlighted that
Speaker 3: she had had with police and then the response that
Speaker 3: followed that. So here is a bit of WA Police
Speaker 3: Commissioner Cole Blanche talking about the investigation and what he's
Speaker 3: hoping will come of this investigation.
Speaker 2: I want to reinforce that me, as the Commissioner and
Speaker 2: our entire WA Police Force are extremely saddened by the
Speaker 2: tragic events of Friday and if there's anything that we
Speaker 2: can do to improve the way we police going forward,
Speaker 2: the internal investigation will no doubt bore those details out.
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's clear the police are going to investigate
Speaker 4: how those complaints were handled. But the other story here
Speaker 4: is about the access that the perpetrator had to guns.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, So, I mean we always think that here
Speaker 3: in Australia we don't have an issue with guns, and
Speaker 3: I think it is quite rare to be talking about
Speaker 3: guns in this sort of context. But the perpetrator owned
Speaker 3: thirteen guns. So he owned eleven guns on a recreational
Speaker 3: gun license, and then he owned two handguns on a
Speaker 3: collector's license. And in her statement, Ariel said that she
Speaker 3: specifically told police about one.
Speaker 1: Of these weapons.
Speaker 3: It was a glock handgun, and she says that she
Speaker 3: told police that that gun was unaccounted for, and then
Speaker 3: she went on in that statement to suggest that that
Speaker 3: might have been a weapon that was used in this
Speaker 3: double murder. So this incident did unfold at the same
Speaker 3: time as a broader conversation about guns in the state
Speaker 3: had already been playing out. So in February of this year,
Speaker 3: the WA government proposed what they said.
Speaker 1: Would be the toughest gun laws in the country.
Speaker 3: Now. That legislation included limiting the number of guns that
Speaker 3: a person can own and imposing stricter licensing requirements. It
Speaker 3: also proposed introducing a mandatory health check for gun owners.
Speaker 3: So's a lot of the sort of stuff we hear
Speaker 3: out of the US and what they've been trying to
Speaker 3: do around background checks and the like. The WA government
Speaker 3: has announced a review of the draft legislation in response
Speaker 3: to what we have seen occur after there were concerns
Speaker 3: raised about this shooting in particular, and in a presser
Speaker 3: following this incident, WA's Police Minister Paul Popalia, he really
Speaker 3: emphasized the importance of expanding police's ability to issue protective orders,
Speaker 3: particularly in situations involving fire arms.
Speaker 4: The order that said she applied for right yes.
Speaker 3: So he described those current laws as inadequate, and he
Speaker 3: said that the shooter would have had fewer firearms if
Speaker 3: the draft laws had already passed.
Speaker 1: So, as I said, this is just proposed legislation.
Speaker 3: It had already been a conversation in the state, but
Speaker 3: it hadn't passed at the time that this incident occurred.
Speaker 3: It's obviously very difficult to know if anything would have
Speaker 3: turned out differently because we're talking only in hypotheticals, but
Speaker 3: that's certainly the line that the government is saying right now.
Speaker 3: I do just want to add that that legislation also
Speaker 3: proposed a ban on domestic violence offenders holding a firearm, and.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting point you raise. I mean, is this
Speaker 4: being treated as a domestic violence incident?
Speaker 3: The Wa premier earlier this week called it an incident
Speaker 3: motivated by domestic and family violence, so pretty clear language there.
Speaker 3: In doing so, he pointed to the four hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars his government has said it will spend on domestic
Speaker 3: violence prevention in the state.
Speaker 4: We've spent a bit of time today talking through the
Speaker 4: WA government and WA Police, but obviously this is a
Speaker 4: federal issue. Have we heard from the federal government on
Speaker 4: this particular incident.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we heard from Social Services Minister Amanda Rishworth
Speaker 3: who told the ABC that it seems like Ariel didn't
Speaker 3: get the response that she needed from police, so that's
Speaker 3: her weighing in on what we have since learned. She
Speaker 3: described WA's police's investigation as important, and separately to that,
Speaker 3: an independent panel commission by the federal government met this
Speaker 3: week to identify best practice kind of prevention strategies to
Speaker 3: combat violence.
Speaker 1: Against women and children.
Speaker 3: As I said, it's been a national conversation, a bit
Speaker 3: of a personal link there that my brother is part
Speaker 3: of that panel and is helping to advise the government
Speaker 3: on how to move forward. That we keep having these conversations,
Speaker 3: there keep being commitments that something will change, but it
Speaker 3: appears that the strategy isn't working, as you know Billy
Speaker 3: put to the minister earlier this week. So really interested
Speaker 3: to see what the panel will come up with. It's
Speaker 3: due to submit its findings to the government later this year.
Speaker 3: But this latest incident in Perth is again highlighting the
Speaker 3: many facets that underpin family and domestic violence and you
Speaker 3: know the way the gun laws and the way that
Speaker 3: the police interact with this, and certainly there is a
Speaker 3: lot of work yet to be done.
Speaker 4: And just another reminder that if you need help you
Speaker 4: can always contact one eight hundred respect on one eight
Speaker 4: hundred seven three seven seven three to two. We'll be
Speaker 4: back again tomorrow. Until then, have a good day. My
Speaker 4: name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda Bunjelung
Speaker 4: Caalcutin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges that
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