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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Daily OS. It is Tuesday, the seventeenth of September.

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Speaker 2: I'm Billy, I'm Zara.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, there appeared to be another assassination attempt on

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Speaker 1: former US President Donald Trump, who is also the current

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Speaker 1: the second time in about two months that a gunman

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Speaker 1: had been in shooting distance of the former president. Now

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Speaker 1: questions about how this could happen to a man who

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Speaker 1: is constantly surrounded by security are intensifying. Well explain how

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Speaker 1: it unfolded in today's deep dive. But before we get there, Zara,

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Speaker 1: what is making headlines today?

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Speaker 2: Murder charges against a New South Wales couple have been

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Speaker 2: profile case. Nineteen year old Amber Haigu, who lived with

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Speaker 2: an intellectual impairment, went missing in two thousand and two.

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Speaker 2: She lived with Robert and Anne Geeves. The married couple

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Speaker 2: were accused of killing haig to take her five month

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Speaker 2: is the child's father. The gieves were charged with Haig's

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Speaker 2: described Haig as quote vulnerable and said the couple's motive

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Speaker 1: An investigation into the conduct of one of Australia's biggest unions,

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Speaker 1: the CFMEU, has found continued links to bicky gangs and

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Speaker 1: after nine newspapers alleged it had been infiltrated by organized

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Speaker 1: crime groups. A preliminary investigation has pointed to quote a

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Speaker 2: At least eight people have drowned and at least two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand homes are without power in Central

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Speaker 2: Union Commission chief shared her quote heartfelt solidarity with all

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Speaker 1: And today's good news. Australian actor Elizabeth Dipicki has won

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Speaker 1: Emmy nominations and won three, including Debickie's win. Chogun also

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Billy, What's absolutely crazy about this is that

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Speaker 2: this is the second time in a matter of months

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Speaker 2: that we have dedicated a podcast to talking about an

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Speaker 2: attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Completely wild It's been precedented

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Speaker 2: completely and I think it raises a whole host of

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Speaker 1: So this all happened at Trump's golf course that he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was talked about in the press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 3: Level that he is at right now. He's not the

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Speaker 1: Done, So it's absolutely true that if he was the

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Speaker 2: Is there a push for that to happen, Like, are

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