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Speaker 1: Now joining me live in the studio this morning, the

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Speaker 1: Acting Commander for the Darwin Region of the Northern Territory Police,

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Speaker 1: Sean Gill, Good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You morning, Katie. Beautiful cold day.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's lovely, isn't it. It's so nice to get

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Speaker 1: a bit of wet weather to cool things down a

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Speaker 1: little bit now. Unfortunately, it looks like it's been a

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Speaker 1: fairly busy week for you guys for a few days,

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Speaker 1: at least. Yesterday morning about nine twenty, Northern Territory Police

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Speaker 1: receiving reports that a male youth had allegedly assaulted two

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Speaker 1: men outside of business on Baldwin Drive in Woodroff. What

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Speaker 1: exactly happened there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, as you said, a male youth assaulted numerous persons,

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Speaker 2: Our sixty four year old who essentially was a bystander

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Speaker 2: and the seventy seven year old who was the owner

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Speaker 2: of the business. So one tried to intervene and help

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Speaker 2: and essentially both both got assaulted with that. So police

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Speaker 2: attended fairly quickly afterward and arrested a fifteen year old

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Speaker 2: person in relation to that. Obviously that's still under investigation.

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Speaker 2: But again, you know, I think I said it last

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Speaker 2: week it's just the level of assaults going on and

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Speaker 2: you know, people going about their business and trying to

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, right nine twenty in the morning,

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Speaker 1: you wind up with this, you know, with a fifteen

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Speaker 1: year old then allegedly assaulting these two blokes, one of

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Speaker 1: them while he's in his place of work. It's it's

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Speaker 1: Frustrating's too light a word. I suppose it's quite infuriating.

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Speaker 2: For a lot of people, absolutely and saying it as

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Speaker 2: are saying, and probably while I'm doing this job, we'll

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Speaker 2: be pushing as hard as we can to arrest anybody

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Speaker 2: in relation to this. And the good thing was there's

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Speaker 2: a good response with response by police, and we've got

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Speaker 1: Sorry sort of went off. He hasn't been charged yet

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Speaker 1: or those charges are expected to happen today.

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Speaker 2: So at this stage you're expecting to be charged. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't have a time frame in front of him.

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Speaker 1: No, that's all right, Hey, moving along, because there's unfortunately

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Speaker 1: there's been a few pretty violent sort of incidents. Now

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Speaker 1: one of those actually occurred on Wednesday last week in

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Speaker 1: few messages about in terms of people sort of being

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Speaker 1: kind of thing and seeing the police there. Now effectively,

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Speaker 1: a twenty five year old man was arrested in relation

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Speaker 1: to what was described as a serious harm incident that

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Speaker 1: had occurred on Wednesday the twenty second. Can you give

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Speaker 1: us a bit of context what happens?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Coatie. So, as you said on the twenty second,

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Speaker 2: about halfhaus six pm near the NAB building, there was

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Speaker 2: a large older there was an altercation between three people.

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Speaker 2: Essentially this is I'm all recorded on CCTV as well.

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Speaker 2: As a result of that this altercation, one person was

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Speaker 2: using a machete. One person as a result of that,

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Speaker 2: got some very significant injuries. If it wasn't for the

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Speaker 2: in terms of applying a tornic caner like this person

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Speaker 1: So wow, gives me.

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Speaker 2: So some quick decisive action in terms of saving this

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Speaker 2: people who attended, I have to attend the bystanders, I

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Speaker 2: The second part is the investigation that followed afterwards. So interestingly,

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Speaker 2: there's been two people arrested for this now. So twenty

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Speaker 2: including two extra cause serious harm. And a twenty eight

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Speaker 2: got two people in custody again you know, high level violence,

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Speaker 1: Wow, Sean, do we know if they were known to

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't have that. As I say, I've seen

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Speaker 2: But it's quite serious offending. And I'm saying I've said

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So those people that were the first responders,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had quite significant injuries as a result of this,

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Speaker 2: tornic cas and I like as well that sort of

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Speaker 2: gives an indication level of bleeding that was happening. Now.

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Speaker 1: It must be difficult as well, you know for those

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Speaker 2: Look, absolutely, and the easiest thing to do is actually

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Speaker 2: and serve some recognition.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and look, you know, by the sounds of it,

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Speaker 1: it's a huge thing to do. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: in these situations do the police sort of recommend people

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Speaker 1: for you know, for formal recognition. I know I've got

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Speaker 1: you can do. Well.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that because from a senior executive

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Speaker 2: some recognitions to the member involved. I was spoken to

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Speaker 2: him as well, Yeah, you know, he did a terrific job.

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Speaker 2: Again in terms of the severe and helping out. We

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Speaker 2: really didn't hear that untill later on. So I can

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Speaker 2: give them some recognition as well. Probably can get that

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Speaker 2: through crime and the investigators. But I'm saying, but to

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Speaker 2: answer your question, yes, they of the recognition, and they're

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Speaker 2: saying I'm actually a bit of a hard marker and

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Speaker 2: I don't normally do it, but in these circumstances they

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Hey, just going across to another terrible incident

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Speaker 2: That's correct. Yeah, so I'm aware of I'm not aware

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Speaker 2: of the details. I understand that it's under investigation, and

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Speaker 2: I need to believe that. I think there has been

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Speaker 2: a person arrested in relation to this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think they arrested him the following day at

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Speaker 2: But again, you know, like the most benign people in

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Speaker 1: And you know, like you think this is a priest

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Speaker 1: anti social behavior in that area for some time. I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: some of that anti social behavior that we're seeing. What

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Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not a fan of the word

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Speaker 2: operations because that implies that there's an end state to this.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really keen and we're actually going to start

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Speaker 2: I want to see high visibility policing. Essentially, we've got

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Speaker 2: some Mariaginal liaison officers well helping out in terms of engagement.

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Speaker 2: But essentially, if there's offending going on, drinking, borish behavior,

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Speaker 2: essentially it won't be tolerated. I expect to be dealt with.

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Speaker 2: So I want to do because we have three major

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Speaker 2: get the equal amount of service. So having said that,

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Speaker 2: so we've got members from our Territory Safety Division, We've

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Speaker 2: be doing each one of those places. We're looking at

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Speaker 2: day shifts, We're looking at targeting the drivers of crime,

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Speaker 2: and most of the drivers of crime.

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Speaker 1: Is alcohol related.

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Speaker 2: So alcohol related offending just won't be tolerated. And I'm

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Speaker 2: and I'll be driving them pretty hard to be honest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at some of the incidents

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't have the specific numbers in front of me,

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Speaker 2: And there's plenty of evidence to suggest that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I really want to go looking at day shifts and

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Speaker 2: just targeting the drivers of crime, which is a alcohol

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Speaker 2: the public intoxication, the offending and the like as well.

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Speaker 2: So I really want to say, I want to push

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Speaker 2: I think I believe the police do this, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just more keen on the more coordinated. Yeah, a better

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be a real focus for you.

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Speaker 1: Went like, is that kicking off like today? Friday? Friday kickoff?

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Speaker 1: And as you said, you don't want to call it

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Speaker 1: be happening, you know, all the time. But people need

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Speaker 1: to be aware if you're out, if you're out drinking

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Speaker 1: the police are going to be coming to have a

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Speaker 1: chat with you, by the sounds of.

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Speaker 2: It, and absolutely, and if anybody knows me, knows my

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Speaker 2: negotiation skills aren't that great. So if you're committing offenses

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Speaker 2: and don't expect, you're.

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Speaker 1: Not going to get out of it fair enough.

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Speaker 2: And that's what you got to be pushing to Ellen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and look, I think that that's you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty much had enough of the anti social behavior that

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Speaker 1: it then progresses to is I suppose what I was

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Speaker 1: domestic violence situation, all sorts of other things, and that

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so, and that's what I really want to target.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably fair to point out that, like even

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Speaker 2: as well, you know, and they tipped that in the

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Speaker 2: order of three hundred leaders of alcohol. That was just

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Speaker 2: in four days. They moved on a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: They issued a lot of things about ten or twelve

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Speaker 2: band drinking orders as well, So there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: work going on. This is really a coordination piece, and

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Speaker 2: this is where I'll be really driving it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, short term commander. Over the last week or so,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking quite a bit about Nightcliff and Coconut

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Speaker 1: Saint Vinnie's to extend you know, some of the services

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Speaker 1: that they've got there the next couple of years in

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Speaker 1: Coconut Grove and Nightcliffe. I don't know, you know, whether

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Speaker 1: you're in a position to say whether you support that extension,

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Speaker 1: but have you seen an increase in sort of anti

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Speaker 2: Look, I just don't have a Dara in front of me,

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Speaker 2: so I'd be loath the comment of that because I

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Speaker 2: just don't know that's right because from my point of view,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking at a Darwin, Casuarina, Palmerston. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking at a whole lot and just seeing

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Speaker 2: how we go from there. But you know, like it's

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Speaker 2: one of those things if we sit you know, it's

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Speaker 2: in the simplest of terms, you know, by be saying

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Speaker 2: if you see anything, you report it then and please

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, acting commander for the Darwin Region, Sean gil

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for joining us on the Shy. Thank you Katie, thank

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Speaker 1: you