Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Mikayla Testa
Speaker 1: denies her engagement as a sham for a green card.
Speaker 1: Anna Paul faces the heat in her first public appearance
Speaker 1: and our Friday Debrief but first. Barley based influencer Talia
Speaker 1: Scaines has jetted back home to Australia following the shock
Speaker 1: news that an Ilouatu mansion is up for sale. The
Speaker 1: lifestyle influencer revealed she's back on the Gold Coast to
Speaker 1: work on her latest renovation projects, So if can you
Speaker 1: bring us up to speed well? As we reported on
Speaker 1: Tuesday's show, there's been a lot of speculation around why
Speaker 1: Talia and her boyfriend Jake Sajano are selling their three
Speaker 1: story mansion in Iluatu. The couple moved to Bali just
Speaker 1: two years ago, and they documented the build of what
Speaker 1: they dubbed their dream home on Talia's YouTube channel now.
Speaker 1: Construction on the villa, which the couple named Cassas Su,
Speaker 1: only finished in September last year, with Talia posting about
Speaker 1: final pieces of custom furniture being installed, and how surreal
Speaker 1: it felt to be finally living in her dream home.
Speaker 1: So they really gave the impression that this villa was
Speaker 1: going to be their permanent home at least for a
Speaker 1: few years, and it wasn't just some sort of investment property. Now,
Speaker 1: Talia hasn't given a reason yet as to why they're selling,
Speaker 1: which has led to further speculation. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: followers who are questioning, well, is she moving back to Australia.
Speaker 1: Have the couple broken up, or have they run out
Speaker 1: of money? Or maybe was this the plan all along
Speaker 1: because Jake is a property developer, but again it was
Speaker 1: never sold as being this business opportunity. Well, Talia has
Speaker 1: confirmed that she will continue to live in Bali and
Speaker 1: she said that she's excited for the future. Jake has
Speaker 1: been absent though from her recent vlogs, and that has
Speaker 1: led to some whispers, but Talia addressed this in her
Speaker 1: latest YouTube video, saying he's been struck down with dengi
Speaker 1: fever and has been bed better. That's very bally for you.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Because even though Talia and Jacob lived in Bali for
Speaker 1: two years and they've been there for so many different trips.
Speaker 1: They said that they've rarely been sick in Balley, so
Speaker 1: this was a bit of a shock for them. They've
Speaker 1: both never had DNGI fever. Talia said, both of them
Speaker 1: have rarely had Bali belly as well. Their God's probably
Speaker 1: immune to it now that they're low cost well. Talia
Speaker 1: surprised everyone on Thursday when she randomly posted that she
Speaker 1: was back home on the Gold Coast, which led to
Speaker 1: further speculation, but she followed it up with a YouTube
Speaker 1: video revealing that she will be in the country for
Speaker 1: ten days because she's preparing to renovate yet another house.
Speaker 1: This time it's one that she purchased back in January
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four on the Gold Coast. Now, on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we did discuss that Talia had a secret project in
Speaker 1: the works, but she wasn't going to reveal until later
Speaker 1: in the year, and I thought perhaps that this was
Speaker 1: a new property in Bali that the couple were developing
Speaker 1: after the sale of Casas Sue, But she revealed in
Speaker 1: this new YouTube video that she'll be taking her followers
Speaker 1: along for the ride as they renovate this Australian property.
Speaker 2: Here's what she.
Speaker 3: Said, I feel potentially this could be even more exciting
Speaker 3: for you guys. Obviously it's not going to be a
Speaker 3: three story massive mansion overlooking Dreamland Beach like Cassasu, but
Speaker 3: it is in Australia. I know most of my audience
Speaker 3: on here is in Australia. It's probably likely that a
Speaker 3: lot of you will want to do a renovation in
Speaker 3: Australia at some point, or do like some mild cosmetic
Speaker 3: renovation on like.
Speaker 4: A property or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it could be really interesting for
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 1: So did she choose to release the news now rather
Speaker 1: than later in the year because of all the speculation
Speaker 1: going on about Cassasu. Well, she claimed that she was
Speaker 1: holding off from telling everyone about it because she hadn't
Speaker 1: worked out which platform she was going to share the reno's.
Speaker 1: You think she's been following Laura Burn and Maddy Jay's
Speaker 1: renovations of their beach house and realize that renovating a
Speaker 1: house in Australia is probably a lot more profitable from
Speaker 1: a sponsorship perspective. You can get Bunnings involved in try
Speaker 1: and get local deals. I also think she realizes that
Speaker 1: it's slightly more relatable than were renovating this three story
Speaker 1: Balley mansion, because she touched on the fact that she
Speaker 1: thinks that, you know, her average watcher will actually get
Speaker 1: more from this new renovation channel than they did from
Speaker 1: her casta. So I wouldn't say that Maddie and Laura's
Speaker 1: house was that relatable though. No, but the thing that
Speaker 1: makes it relatable is that it was an absolute dump
Speaker 1: to begin with, as in it was so run down.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting niche for Talia though, to do all
Speaker 1: of these home renovations, because I've read a lot about
Speaker 1: how typical influences like Talia from back in the day
Speaker 1: that we're just doing lifestylev logs, they're very much dying
Speaker 1: out because brands are no longer wanting to work with them.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say she was a lifestyle vlogger. I
Speaker 1: think originally she was one of the attractive girls that
Speaker 1: posted hot photos, and then they tried to move into
Speaker 1: the lifestyle space. She's always had a bit of an
Speaker 1: edge though with travel content, which has set her apart.
Speaker 1: She's actually great to watch. I've enjoyed returning to her
Speaker 1: channel because she gives a lot of advice on places
Speaker 1: to go and stay and eat in BALI like herve
Speaker 1: loogs are always in sight for is she a lawyer
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 2: She is a lawyer. She's very smart.
Speaker 1: She got heavily screwed over before COVID because she launched
Speaker 1: her own traveling at like I think it was twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: literally just as COVID struck.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm still very confused though about why they're selling cases.
Speaker 1: So this hasn't really shed any light on what their
Speaker 1: plans are going to be going forth in Balley. It's
Speaker 1: just made things more confusing.
Speaker 4: If anything, I have every single person that's ever met
Speaker 4: the polls messaging me saying that they are in support
Speaker 4: of me, and they cannot believe that I have finally
Speaker 4: come out and said it.
Speaker 1: The war of words has continued between Mikayla Tester and
Speaker 1: Karina Koff, the only fans stars have taken to Snapchat,
Speaker 1: of all places, to take personal potshots at each other. Kate,
Speaker 1: you took one for the team and watch Mikayla's thirty
Speaker 1: minute clapback video.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us what we missed?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I really did take one for the team. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I better screen record what's going on. Surely it won't
Speaker 1: take that long to watch. And you know, when the
Speaker 1: little dots they were so small, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm nearly at the end, and then they kind of
Speaker 1: just kept increasing. The worst thing is, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're so used to TikTok now where you can put
Speaker 1: things in fast forward, but you can't do that on Snapchat.
Speaker 1: I know I was wishing I could it in fast
Speaker 1: forward now. Amid a lot of complicated friendship drama around
Speaker 1: the women's former clique, there were a few nuggets of gold,
Speaker 1: the first being that Mikayla Tester claims that Anna Pol's ex,
Speaker 1: Glenn Thompson has been texting her messages of support. This is,
Speaker 1: of course, since Mikayla put Anna Poul on blast last month.
Speaker 1: So while addressing Karina's claims that she's a compulsive liar,
Speaker 1: Michayla said this, this.
Speaker 4: Was something that I experienced in my life that was
Speaker 4: very traumatic, that I experienced for many years. I have
Speaker 4: many receipts to back it up. Glenn Thompson's texting me
Speaker 4: saying I'm so sorry about all of this. I remember
Speaker 4: it all. I'm here supporting you. Glenn Thompson data anaple
Speaker 4: for eight years. If you're behind. I have every single
Speaker 4: person that's ever met the Paus messaging me saying that
Speaker 4: they are in support of me and they cannot believe
Speaker 4: that I have finally come out and said it.
Speaker 1: I think to give this a little bit of context.
Speaker 1: As Michayla mentioned, Anna and Glenn dated for eight years
Speaker 1: before they announced their split in August twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: and at the time the news broke the internet and
Speaker 1: fans were left devastated.
Speaker 2: It's actually our.
Speaker 1: Most viewed video on TikTok. I remember it was a
Speaker 1: Saturday night. I was sadly sitting at home not doing much,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm going to get this out there.
Speaker 1: This is huge news for Jens. But it ended up
Speaker 1: clocking up four million views, so people were absolutely devastated
Speaker 1: by this. Since then, Anna has painted a pretty unrealistic
Speaker 1: picture of her and Glenn having the most amicable breakup
Speaker 1: in history. So Anna has shared vlogs of the former
Speaker 1: couple celebrating Christmas together with their families, and even gave
Speaker 1: Glenn his dream car. That was so weird because this
Speaker 1: was a car that was around two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars plus, and you know they just went out
Speaker 1: to some casual dinner with both of their families, and
Speaker 1: then she surprised him with the car in the car
Speaker 1: park downstairs.
Speaker 2: And it's like sorry.
Speaker 1: It almost looked as though she was paying him off
Speaker 1: and saying, look, please don't say anything.
Speaker 2: Bad about it.
Speaker 1: Well, despite this narrative that she's trying to push that
Speaker 1: this relationship breakdown was mutual and very amicable, Anna's new boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Amrik has always been the elephant in the room. So
Speaker 1: Amork suddenly started appearing in Anna's vlogs fresh after the breakup,
Speaker 1: and at the time she kept referring to him as
Speaker 1: a family friend, but it became very clear that it
Speaker 1: was more than that. Well, a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: he was Addis's boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's now a permanent fixture in Anna's vlogs.
Speaker 1: I mean, she is still yet to confirm the relationship status,
Speaker 1: but it's fairly obvious. There's been a lot of bread
Speaker 1: crumbing about this relationship, and it's becoming frustrating for fans
Speaker 1: because we'd rather than just be transparent and come out
Speaker 1: and say that they're together, particularly because there's members of
Speaker 1: the public who were spotting them out about canoodling. For instance,
Speaker 1: there was a video of them making out in the
Speaker 1: Wit Sundays in a pool that went viral on TikTok
Speaker 1: and it's like.
Speaker 2: We all know you together. I love the word canoodling.
Speaker 1: I do think it is Anna's inability to address what's
Speaker 1: actually going on with Amrik which has led many people
Speaker 1: to believe that perhaps there was a crossover between Glenn
Speaker 1: and Ahmrik. Well, and also, as you said, her behavior
Speaker 1: of perceivably trying to buy him off. Yeah. Well, the
Speaker 1: second revelation, and to come from Mikayla's snap story, is
Speaker 1: that she plans to permanently move to the US with
Speaker 1: her American fiance Max Crouch. I wonder if this is
Speaker 1: after her podcast drops.
Speaker 2: In Australia's just like out of here.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if maybe she's going to move there
Speaker 1: and release it then, because the defamation laws are different
Speaker 1: in America.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's actually a good point.
Speaker 1: Well, she'd still need to ensure that it met Australia's
Speaker 1: defamation laws if she was releasing it in Australia, it'd
Speaker 1: be different if she only dropped it in America.
Speaker 2: Hmm, Yeah, that is a good point.
Speaker 1: I suppose it depends how she is planning to stream
Speaker 1: this podcast now. Mikayla dropped the news that she's moving
Speaker 1: to the US while defending her relationship with the bodybuilder.
Speaker 1: She shot down Carna's claims that her relationship was one
Speaker 1: of convenience, declaring, it's not a big fake sham for
Speaker 1: a green card. I can see why Karina is trying
Speaker 1: to take this pot shot because anyone who has followed
Speaker 1: Mikayla closely knows that she is so keen to get
Speaker 1: into America. She said that she loves American boys. But
Speaker 1: if you look at this couple together, they're both incredibly
Speaker 1: good looking. They both seem to have a lot of
Speaker 1: interests that are the same. They're both huge on social media.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I mean, if this guy was
Speaker 1: some loser that she had just met off the street
Speaker 1: who had nothing going for him, maybe you'd think that way.
Speaker 2: But they're both winners, slight.
Speaker 1: Ninety day fields. I smell a rout here. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, But the timeline of
Speaker 1: them getting engaged, I think they were only dating for
Speaker 1: five months before they did get engaged. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit fishy, but sometimes this just happens with couples where
Speaker 1: if they're from different parts of the world, they know
Speaker 1: that perhaps they're going to have to get married in
Speaker 1: order for them to live in the same country. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that she's using him or he's using her.
Speaker 2: That's only five months.
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been together for a lot longer.
Speaker 2: Since they got engaged.
Speaker 1: No, it was five months between it well that they
Speaker 1: publicly announced that they were together. Now, Mikayla, as you
Speaker 1: touched on, Sophie, has a very interesting relationship with the
Speaker 1: US so she has been detained by US border forces
Speaker 1: twice and was deported in April twenty twenty three for
Speaker 1: an accidental violation of her electronic system for travel authorization
Speaker 1: known as an esther now by telling the harrowing story
Speaker 1: in detail on her TikTok On Tuesday night, Mikayla changed
Speaker 1: her story, saying this.
Speaker 4: Yes, I had my visa revoked from the United States.
Speaker 4: I'm not banned and I'm not deported from the United States.
Speaker 4: It's just that my visa was revoked. My eVisa, which
Speaker 4: is like the easiest visa, so you just get it
Speaker 4: from typing online. It was revoked in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: I was turned away and sent back to Australia. That's
Speaker 4: not getting banned or deported or whatever. So I don't
Speaker 4: need a green card to get into the United States.
Speaker 4: I could just apply for another visa and pray pretty much.
Speaker 4: So that's fucking not true.
Speaker 1: We reported in a lot of detail on this story
Speaker 1: back in April twenty twenty three, and there were numerous
Speaker 1: times on her TikTok where she said I have been deported.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was in a bid to
Speaker 1: create more engagement on her TikTok videos. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I was wondering, because she has come out recently and
Speaker 1: said that she really played up being devastated about her
Speaker 1: breakup with Adams Paul. So I think that there is
Speaker 1: a lot of manipulating of content going on, which probably
Speaker 1: doesn't look the best when you're trying to defend claims
Speaker 1: that you're a pathology. But also she's accused Anna Pole
Speaker 1: of pretty much the same thing, for pretending to be
Speaker 1: a different person or hyping things up in order to
Speaker 1: get views. I mean, let's be honest, it's what all
Speaker 1: influencers do. I think Mikayla should have stopped while she
Speaker 1: was ahead, because she also said this, I.
Speaker 4: Forgot one more thing. She was talking about my fiance
Speaker 4: and how I'm using him for a green card. Although
Speaker 4: there are some truth to what she is saying with that,
Speaker 4: it's just been spun in the worst way possible to
Speaker 4: try and make me look like a really bad person
Speaker 4: and Max look like he's just getting taken for a ride,
Speaker 4: when that's not reality at all.
Speaker 2: Again, I think the wording is off.
Speaker 1: To say that there's some truth to what Karina is
Speaker 1: saying about her using her fiance for a green card.
Speaker 2: Is rather awkward.
Speaker 1: This is why she needs to stick to the script.
Speaker 1: It worked really well when she called her Anna poul
Speaker 1: and obviously she'd thought about what she was going to say,
Speaker 1: and she had a written in front of her. I
Speaker 1: think when you go on a rand, well a thirty
Speaker 1: minute rant on snapchat, you're getting in dangerous territory.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in this bid to defend the relationship, she mentioned
Speaker 1: that she was actually talking to Max before she was
Speaker 1: detained in the US in April twenty twenty three, to
Speaker 1: prove that she was interested in him before he could
Speaker 1: get her into the US. It's a really hard situation
Speaker 1: to be in when you know how you feel about someone,
Speaker 1: but you're trying to defend it, and it's almost like
Speaker 1: word vomit. It makes it sound worse. I don't think
Speaker 1: she has to prove to anyone that she's in love
Speaker 1: with her fiance. She shouldn't have even gone into the
Speaker 1: weeds of it now. As for the move to the US,
Speaker 1: Mikayla confirmed that she is planning to permanently relocate to
Speaker 1: America and has applied for a K one visa. Reminds
Speaker 1: me so much of ninety Day Fiance and she said
Speaker 1: that she came to the decision after Max started getting
Speaker 1: homesick in Australia, and she really made a point to
Speaker 1: say that Max approached her about it.
Speaker 5: She then said this, Max and I were going through
Speaker 5: some issues and Karina had said to me, what happens
Speaker 5: if you get to America and he gets really jealous
Speaker 5: and he starts to say that you.
Speaker 4: Know how to come to my house and hang out
Speaker 4: with me and stuff like that. This was issues that
Speaker 4: Max and I were working on at the time. And
Speaker 4: I don't even fucking want to come on here and
Speaker 4: say this shit, but we did have issues, just like
Speaker 4: any other relationship, a small issue that has been completely resolved.
Speaker 4: Now I mentioned to her will like, I'm going to
Speaker 4: go to the United States and see how it goes.
Speaker 4: Then I don't believe that he's going to do that
Speaker 4: to me, but we'll see type vibe. That's what she's
Speaker 4: going on. Shut the fuck up, Like, tell the full story.
Speaker 4: If you're going to tell the story, don't just not
Speaker 4: give context and try and paint a whole relationship as
Speaker 4: this big fake sham for a green card.
Speaker 1: It would be really annoying for Mikayla to actually have
Speaker 1: to confirm that her and her fiance have been arguing,
Speaker 1: because it really does provide fuel to Corrina's claims that
Speaker 1: they're having all these issues and she's just using him
Speaker 1: for a green card. Just shows how low some of
Speaker 1: these TikTokers will go for views though, like the fact
Speaker 1: that they're each attacking each other so much about their
Speaker 1: personal live This wasn't even on TikTok and I do
Speaker 1: want to talk about the fact that this war of
Speaker 1: words broke out on Snapchat because Snapchat is really trying
Speaker 1: hard to lure top creators back to their platform for
Speaker 1: a long time now, in the past year, creators posting
Speaker 1: publicly on Snapchat has actually tripled, and it looks like
Speaker 1: that number is likely to increase because they have now
Speaker 1: launched this new monetization program. So they've been really strategic
Speaker 1: with the way they've gone about it, because they announced
Speaker 1: this new program in December when the US was trying
Speaker 1: to ban TikTok, and the new program officially launched in February,
Speaker 1: and it gives creators more ways to make money on Snapchat.
Speaker 1: So previously the platform paid influencers some of the money
Speaker 1: that they earned from the ads placed within their snap stories,
Speaker 1: but now it's expanding the program to include ads that
Speaker 1: are within the longest spotlight videos.
Speaker 2: Now I still use Snapchat, but I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: What spotlight videos were until I did a bit of digging,
Speaker 1: and basically they're just literally Snapchat's version of the TikTok
Speaker 1: for you, Paige. There are a lot of rumors going
Speaker 1: around the influencers and also reality stars are being paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money by Snapchat, not only to promote it,
Speaker 1: but to return to the app because a few years
Speaker 1: ago it was very much dying. Nobody used Snapchat, and
Speaker 1: especially publicly, like you might use it to send stuff
Speaker 1: to your friends, but you would I don't know if
Speaker 1: I agree with this strategic move from Snapchat, because for me,
Speaker 1: the lure of Snapchat has always been that it's a
Speaker 1: way to connect with your friends. You don't have to
Speaker 1: get caught up in online drama involving celebrities and influencers.
Speaker 1: Like I don't go there to find out news or
Speaker 1: information about other people's lives.
Speaker 2: I want to connect with my friends on there.
Speaker 1: But that means it will be the platform that you
Speaker 1: can do all of those things.
Speaker 2: Yes, but we've already got places to do it. I
Speaker 2: just think it becomes too confusing.
Speaker 1: Well, there are reports that Instagram might be launching a
Speaker 1: separate app for reels, and this is off the back
Speaker 1: of the looming TikTok ban in the US, So you
Speaker 1: can see there are a lot of apps that are
Speaker 1: hoping to benefit off the potential ban. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: see the big players in the social media space as
Speaker 1: scrambling to take hold of TikTok users if they get
Speaker 1: the opportunity. And it's really clear that the move from
Speaker 1: Snapchat is to get the big creators back on because
Speaker 1: with this monetization program, you actually have to hit pretty
Speaker 1: high benchmarks to be invited to be part of the program.
Speaker 1: So creators must have fifty thousand followers and either ten
Speaker 1: million snap views or one million Spotlight views or twelve
Speaker 1: hours of watch time in the last twenty eight days.
Speaker 1: And you also have to post really consistently at least
Speaker 1: twenty five times a month. So you can see why
Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester and Karina Coough have decided to air these
Speaker 1: very long rants at each other on a platform like Snapchat,
Speaker 1: Because when I was watching Mikayla's videos, there were so
Speaker 1: many ads in it, and she is really banking up
Speaker 1: her hours, no doubt, to make big money off it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think this ads to the theory that
Speaker 1: this is a completely orchestrated argument between this pair.
Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: Is this like the female version of Jake Paul getting
Speaker 1: in the ring in her house fake boxing matches. It's
Speaker 1: definitely lucrative for both of them to be involved in
Speaker 1: this feud, and it seems like Karinakof has just inserted
Speaker 1: herself into the drama and Mikayla's been like, well fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: Anna Paul's not responding to me, she's ignoring all of
Speaker 1: the drama. Let's fight with this girl, well, the fact
Speaker 1: that they were friends before, and also now that Mikayla
Speaker 1: has said that she plans to move to the US
Speaker 1: because fighting with the US creator gives her credibility on
Speaker 1: the US stage. I think she really wants to make
Speaker 1: it big in America and this is a step forward
Speaker 1: because made big headlines in Australia and the US when
Speaker 1: she took on Anna Poul. If anyone from Snapchat is listening,
Speaker 1: our one suggestion is please put the fast forward feature
Speaker 1: on the stories.
Speaker 2: Though I'm ready for F one They one.
Speaker 1: TikToker Anna Paul has faced the heat in her first
Speaker 1: public appearance in Australia since the I Felt Broke controversy.
Speaker 2: The only Fans.
Speaker 1: Creator was invited by American Express to attend its F
Speaker 1: one vip lounge, which was part of the F one Paddock.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know when the invites went out, did
Speaker 1: she get it before the scandal broke? And with the
Speaker 1: PR team like, holy shit, do we only write it
Speaker 1: or what do we do with Sam Magnan who runs
Speaker 1: a very successful PR company called Spin and Co. He
Speaker 1: actually popped up in one of Anna's vlogs about her
Speaker 1: day at the F one, and he is also her
Speaker 1: business partner in Pauli, So I wonder if he was
Speaker 1: part of inviting her to the event, or whether she
Speaker 1: was invited by another PR firm and they were just
Speaker 1: catching up. I wonder if he wanted to be in
Speaker 1: that vlog because a lot of people have been questioning
Speaker 1: who was Anna's PR team, and you know he is connected.
Speaker 1: He has got a PR coming. I'll be very surprised
Speaker 1: if he was involved in her state. I still think
Speaker 1: it's a win for the F one having a rock up, though,
Speaker 1: because it adds a bit of drama. Well, unsurprisingly, she
Speaker 1: hung out most of the time at the paddock, which
Speaker 1: is basically where all of the rich and famous people converge,
Speaker 1: and it's where they've got all of these high dining
Speaker 1: experiences and all of the best views of the track,
Speaker 1: and they also have the opportunity to rub shoulders with
Speaker 1: the F one drivers and teams and watch the cars
Speaker 1: get worked on. So there's a lot of jealousy involved
Speaker 1: with who actually gets to attend these events. And while
Speaker 1: she did spend most of her time there, she did
Speaker 1: have to venture into the crowds to make her way
Speaker 1: up to the the various VIP areas, and last year
Speaker 1: when she attended the f One, TikTok was full of
Speaker 1: fans posting sightings of her at the event and gushing
Speaker 1: about how excited they were to see their queen in
Speaker 1: the flesh. But this year was a very different story
Speaker 1: because I saw so many videos of people mocking her.
Speaker 1: So they'd see her out and about at the f One,
Speaker 1: they'd film her, and then they kept using the viral
Speaker 1: I Felt Broke audio. One that was getting a lot
Speaker 1: of attention was a video of Anna at the paddock
Speaker 1: and they created a video questioning if she felt broke
Speaker 1: watching the f Ones from the pit. There was another
Speaker 1: TikTok user who posted a video from where they were
Speaker 1: watching it in the GA area, and I think it
Speaker 1: was the Sunday where there was really bad weather. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of rain and all of the people
Speaker 1: in the GA area were basically stuck in the mud,
Speaker 1: like the whole thing had turned into this mud pit.
Speaker 1: And they wrote point of view, you don't have a
Speaker 1: paddic pass on race day with the I Felt broke
Speaker 1: audio over the top. I think the only way that
Speaker 1: Anna's going to move on from this is it if
Speaker 1: she starts to embrace it and inserts herself into someone well,
Speaker 1: she's got a coke fun at herself and be self deprecating.
Speaker 1: And I think the more Mikayla Tester uses her platforms
Speaker 1: to put an appalled on blast and then have these
Speaker 1: arguments with Kreen of Cough and then put out the podcast,
Speaker 1: I think by the time this podcast drops, people are
Speaker 1: going to be over it and going to be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I just want to watch Anna's cool travel volos. It
Speaker 1: Like Chloe and Mitchell avil Strategy, they just put their
Speaker 1: head down and focused on themselves family Strategy. After a
Speaker 1: year or so, everyone was like, Oh, they're not that bad.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be working though, because whenever she
Speaker 1: uploads a new vlog I instantly go to the comment
Speaker 1: section to sort of gauge the vibe, and you can
Speaker 1: really feel the frustration in the comment section. One user
Speaker 1: wrote under the vlogs, the vlogs don't hit the same anymore.
Speaker 1: The trust has been broken, whilst another said I get
Speaker 1: a weird feeling every time you post a new video.
Speaker 1: The vlogs really have had a different vibe and I've
Speaker 1: noticed that she has been speaking a lot more about
Speaker 1: getting drunk. For instance, in one of the f one vlogs,
Speaker 1: she was talking about how she and her friends were
Speaker 1: going out early that day and making sure they had
Speaker 1: a big breakfast to line their tummies, and then she
Speaker 1: was showing them drinking all these cocktails at the Marquee
Speaker 1: and eating all this lavish food, and it just came
Speaker 1: across as very out of touch. Well, I mean, her
Speaker 1: locks have always been completely out of touch. But then
Speaker 1: she would put on this nice girl persona that was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I deserve all of this because I'm really nice to
Speaker 1: my family. And now that people think, oh, that might
Speaker 1: have been a bit of a charade, people are like, oh, this.
Speaker 2: Doesn't hit the same.
Speaker 1: I noticed Adis was mia in her vlog, and it
Speaker 1: also appears that he didn't attend the Grand Prix because
Speaker 1: no one posted seeing him.
Speaker 2: Do you think he's fearing for his own safety at
Speaker 2: the moment.
Speaker 1: I definitely think he wouldn't feel safe going out to
Speaker 1: an event like this, particularly one where there's a lot
Speaker 1: of young people like jen Zetas.
Speaker 2: Who know who he is. I think he would be
Speaker 2: scared of getting.
Speaker 1: Abused in public, and I also think that Anna doesn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable to post with him yet because she just
Speaker 1: knows that he's going to be the focus and her
Speaker 1: comments already so well. At the start of this topic,
Speaker 1: I said, I wonder if American Express were regretting inviting
Speaker 1: Anna Paul, and I wonder when she actually got the invite,
Speaker 1: perhaps they stipulated that she wasn't allowed to bring adas
Speaker 1: pool because you don't really want that around your brand.
Speaker 2: Definitely that that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite comments though, in the first flog
Speaker 1: that she uploaded at the Grand Prix. It was a
Speaker 1: really hot day. So the first day, Day one was
Speaker 1: really hot and then the weather turned shit. But basically
Speaker 1: she was saying how hot she was and she was sweating,
Speaker 1: and people in the comments section were saying, oh, we
Speaker 1: better not got for a hug because she hates sweaty people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, all of this drama has really affected her views.
Speaker 1: Her TikTok numbers are down, her followers are dropping. It's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy because she usually gets at least a couple
Speaker 1: of million views for each of her videos, but her
Speaker 1: last few vlogs have only sat around the four hundred
Speaker 1: to six hundred thousand view mark.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: The fact that people aren't even hate watching anymore. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought all of the hate comments might lead to
Speaker 1: more engage from here.
Speaker 2: They haven't been.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it shows just how much your videos are
Speaker 1: impacted if you lose a couple of million followers, like,
Speaker 1: the algorithm must be off for her. Now let's get
Speaker 1: into our Friday debrief, and I'm going to kick us off.
Speaker 1: So I had a really great weekend because reason, I
Speaker 1: had our first night out since Jack was born nine
Speaker 1: months ago. So while we have gone out to different occasions,
Speaker 1: we've always bought dak with us, so it was really
Speaker 1: weird to go just with my handbag, not some big
Speaker 1: baby bag and a pusher and a travel coot. And
Speaker 1: of course Jack, when we were walking to the restaurant,
Speaker 1: We're like, this is so weird. I'm disappointed I didn't
Speaker 1: see a photo of your outfit because you guys went
Speaker 1: to a country was a Country Western Diamond Sea party
Speaker 1: was at it. So we had a fortieth and it
Speaker 1: was a Rodeo Daimonti or something theme. I think it
Speaker 1: was the same thing that Chloe Kardashian had for a fortieth.
Speaker 1: I'm disturbed that we're going to fortieth now. It seems
Speaker 1: like it was twenty first, not that long.
Speaker 2: Fair. It's a work colleague of Reese's. It's not your
Speaker 2: what she is a friend now, but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it was actually making me excited for our
Speaker 1: fortieth because I think people should celebrate these milestones. And
Speaker 1: what was really cool was it actually turned into a
Speaker 1: surprise wedding, so during the speeches, they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we've actually got a celebrant here. We're going to get married.
Speaker 1: So that was really cool. And it's so funny because
Speaker 1: I say night out, but we ended up getting home
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock. I text mom at ten thirty, like,
Speaker 1: we're on our way home. And it's funny because when
Speaker 1: you become parents, you also in your relationship with your
Speaker 1: parents revert back to childhood because now I need either
Speaker 1: my parents or Reese's parents to come over so we
Speaker 1: can go out, but.
Speaker 2: You need be a permission.
Speaker 1: Mum, Can I go out? And I'm coming home anyway?
Speaker 1: Mum replied, being like, are you sure? I think she
Speaker 1: thought we were going to stay out way later. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a great night. I didn't have such a
Speaker 1: good weekend. I've got another update on my renos, which
Speaker 1: hasn't been fantastic. How is hotel heying? Ah, she's coming along,
Speaker 1: she's coming along a renovation. She was bit polished, But basically,
Speaker 1: we found out on the weekend that we have asbestos
Speaker 1: in our kitchen and laundry area, which we've been renovating.
Speaker 2: Thank god, no one cut into it.
Speaker 1: So basically, for those who aren't up to speed with
Speaker 1: my reno's, we've been completely doing up our kitchen a
Speaker 1: laundry area ourselves. When I say ourselves, I haven't actually
Speaker 1: been doing your in laws. My in laws and Brandon
Speaker 1: have been doing everything because it's one of those like
Speaker 1: diy kits that we've got, and this is a much
Speaker 1: more relatable reno than Kasa suit. Yeah, oh yeah, my god,
Speaker 1: very low scale, but basically, yes, So we discovered that
Speaker 1: we had asbestos in a section above our sink area. Luckily,
Speaker 1: this guy that brand had found he removed it for
Speaker 1: only two hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 2: But was he legit?
Speaker 1: He was legit, but he said he didn't wear a
Speaker 1: hazmat suit. Well he didn't because apparently, like I've learned
Speaker 1: that there's different grades of asbestos. This was I think
Speaker 1: was B grade or something or second grade. It wasn't
Speaker 1: as bad anyway. We weren't going to get the asbestos
Speaker 1: removed in our laundry, but we've discovered that in order
Speaker 1: to put all of the laundry equipment in, we potentially
Speaker 1: may have to drill into the wall. So we just
Speaker 1: don't feel safe not removing it. So there's another thousand
Speaker 1: dollars that we're spending Tomorrow. I've got to be out
Speaker 1: of the house for a couple of hours with Archie
Speaker 1: and I were just to end this podcast on a
Speaker 1: I have got some really exciting news, and it is
Speaker 1: the date of my sea section or your baby's birthday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my baby's birthday. Isn't it weird when they ring you
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, is this stay okay, and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: it's a pretty pivotal day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: I had to ring them because originally I was told, oh,
Speaker 1: you'll get the call seven weeks out from the sea
Speaker 1: section to date, and I was waiting and waiting. I thought,
Speaker 1: stuff it, I'm going to call them up and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've booked in the baby's birthday or whatever as X
Speaker 1: and I'm apparently second on the list, which is really
Speaker 1: exciting because you were third and that took all day
Speaker 1: to get it through. Yeah, I was behind two second cesarean,
Speaker 1: so women that had already had a previous cesarean. So
Speaker 1: apparently it's a little bit more complex. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: got there at ten am and didn't get to go
Speaker 1: in until about four.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know if TikTok is secretly listening into my conversations,
Speaker 1: but I have just been flooded with tiktoks on caesarean births,
Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily think is a good thing because
Speaker 1: a lot of them have been quite negative.
Speaker 2: Why not pick my brain about it?
Speaker 1: No, No, Well did you get the shakes? No? I didn't, Okay,
Speaker 1: because a lot of women are complaining about the shakes
Speaker 1: and vomiting and all this kind of stuff, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to get off this algorithm. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: get any of that, not to say it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen to you, but I think it's good that
Speaker 1: you know that there's a long wait period, because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking maybe sofinn I can go in and kind of
Speaker 1: do a little bit of a rotation.
Speaker 2: Because it was just do that.
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know anything about it. I mean I
Speaker 1: said today or maybe he should bring some card games,
Speaker 1: bring in his switch, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just scrolling on our phones. I actually
Speaker 2: started playing tetris. Well, it's sort of.
Speaker 1: Like you're waiting for the firing squad almost like you're
Speaker 1: just sitting there. Like we had to wait so long
Speaker 1: that it was so exciting when they actually came in
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're next. And then also yeah, and
Speaker 1: also because I hadn't eaten or you know, allowed to
Speaker 1: drink water until then, I think like four am or something.
Speaker 1: So I did Reese actually watch the surgery because I
Speaker 1: said that to Dale last night. I said, will you
Speaker 1: actually peek over and see all my insides and all
Speaker 1: of that? And He's like, I don't know, because he
Speaker 1: normally likes all of that gory stuff, like all the
Speaker 1: pimple Popper videos. He said, when it's someone they actually
Speaker 1: know and love, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rees did look.
Speaker 1: But he's the type of person that said he would
Speaker 1: love to sit in on a surgery, like he loves
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Just my tip is don't look up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there reflective surfaces like I saw way too much.
Speaker 1: I've joked that I'd like to roll in just with
Speaker 1: sunglasses on, because I feel like it makes you feel
Speaker 1: a bit disconnected from the whole experience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if they'd allow that.
Speaker 1: Then you kind of have to make sure that your
Speaker 1: eyes are all right. I also want if anyone has
Speaker 1: some suggestions of songs to play, because you do get
Speaker 1: to choose what album or you have on. I mean, predictably,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Taylor Swift, but I don't know if I
Speaker 1: want to associate if it's a really negative experience, if
Speaker 1: I've get the shakes or on vomiting, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to have Taylor playing. Generally, the birth
Speaker 1: of your child is a positive experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, I remember when I got some laser done on
Speaker 1: some of my freckles and I was blaring Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and it really ruined this song. Yeah, I wish I
Speaker 1: had thought about the song because they asked me and
Speaker 1: I just said Taylor Swift, and I don't even recall
Speaker 1: what song was playing when.
Speaker 2: Jack was born.
Speaker 1: I had a thought the other day because Dale and
Speaker 1: I really love collectively listening to the Spice Girls, which sounds.
Speaker 2: To be odd just looking you imagine.
Speaker 1: Having that place stop right now. Well, that's where we're
Speaker 1: going to leave things today. Thank you again for listening
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