WEBVTT - The 30 Minute Snapchat Clap-back 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.040 Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:09.680 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.119 Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Mikayla Testa 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.800 denies her engagement as a sham for a green card. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.000 Anna Paul faces the heat in her first public appearance 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:23.919 and our Friday Debrief but first. Barley based influencer Talia 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.880 Scaines has jetted back home to Australia following the shock 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.800 news that an Ilouatu mansion is up for sale. The 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.519 lifestyle influencer revealed she's back on the Gold Coast to 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.120 work on her latest renovation projects, So if can you 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.760 bring us up to speed well? As we reported on 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.760 Tuesday's show, there's been a lot of speculation around why 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.120 Talia and her boyfriend Jake Sajano are selling their three 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.320 story mansion in Iluatu. The couple moved to Bali just 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.720 two years ago, and they documented the build of what 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.639 they dubbed their dream home on Talia's YouTube channel now. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.440 Construction on the villa, which the couple named Cassas Su, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.320 only finished in September last year, with Talia posting about 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.960 final pieces of custom furniture being installed, and how surreal 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.320 it felt to be finally living in her dream home. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.679 So they really gave the impression that this villa was 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.959 going to be their permanent home at least for a 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.640 few years, and it wasn't just some sort of investment property. Now, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.920 Talia hasn't given a reason yet as to why they're selling, 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.640 which has led to further speculation. There's a lot of 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.959 followers who are questioning, well, is she moving back to Australia. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.640 Have the couple broken up, or have they run out 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.119 of money? Or maybe was this the plan all along 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.480 because Jake is a property developer, but again it was 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.920 never sold as being this business opportunity. Well, Talia has 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.920 confirmed that she will continue to live in Bali and 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.160 she said that she's excited for the future. Jake has 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.840 been absent though from her recent vlogs, and that has 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.960 led to some whispers, but Talia addressed this in her 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.600 latest YouTube video, saying he's been struck down with dengi 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.480 fever and has been bed better. That's very bally for you. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.200 Well, it's interesting. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.720 Because even though Talia and Jacob lived in Bali for 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.680 two years and they've been there for so many different trips. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.120 They said that they've rarely been sick in Balley, so 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:06.440 this was a bit of a shock for them. They've 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.040 both never had DNGI fever. Talia said, both of them 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.200 have rarely had Bali belly as well. Their God's probably 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.640 immune to it now that they're low cost well. Talia 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.120 surprised everyone on Thursday when she randomly posted that she 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.760 was back home on the Gold Coast, which led to 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.120 further speculation, but she followed it up with a YouTube 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.480 video revealing that she will be in the country for 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.480 ten days because she's preparing to renovate yet another house. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.360 This time it's one that she purchased back in January 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.480 twenty twenty four on the Gold Coast. Now, on Tuesday, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.200 we did discuss that Talia had a secret project in 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.520 the works, but she wasn't going to reveal until later 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.079 in the year, and I thought perhaps that this was 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.000 a new property in Bali that the couple were developing 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.960 after the sale of Casas Sue, But she revealed in 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.600 this new YouTube video that she'll be taking her followers 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.960 along for the ride as they renovate this Australian property. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:57.600 Here's what she. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:02.840 Said, I feel potentially this could be even more exciting 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.840 for you guys. Obviously it's not going to be a 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:10.080 three story massive mansion overlooking Dreamland Beach like Cassasu, but 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.200 it is in Australia. I know most of my audience 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:18.000 on here is in Australia. It's probably likely that a 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.640 lot of you will want to do a renovation in 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.440 Australia at some point, or do like some mild cosmetic 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:25.280 renovation on like. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.000 A property or whatever. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.520 So I feel like it could be really interesting for 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:29.040 you guys. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.079 So did she choose to release the news now rather 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.160 than later in the year because of all the speculation 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.960 going on about Cassasu. Well, she claimed that she was 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.480 holding off from telling everyone about it because she hadn't 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.920 worked out which platform she was going to share the reno's. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.600 You think she's been following Laura Burn and Maddy Jay's 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.960 renovations of their beach house and realize that renovating a 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.680 house in Australia is probably a lot more profitable from 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.680 a sponsorship perspective. You can get Bunnings involved in try 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.520 and get local deals. I also think she realizes that 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.960 it's slightly more relatable than were renovating this three story 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.680 Balley mansion, because she touched on the fact that she 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.760 thinks that, you know, her average watcher will actually get 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.640 more from this new renovation channel than they did from 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.320 her casta. So I wouldn't say that Maddie and Laura's 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.240 house was that relatable though. No, but the thing that 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.159 makes it relatable is that it was an absolute dump 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.239 to begin with, as in it was so run down. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.920 It's an interesting niche for Talia though, to do all 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.600 of these home renovations, because I've read a lot about 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.640 how typical influences like Talia from back in the day 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.680 that we're just doing lifestylev logs, they're very much dying 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.840 out because brands are no longer wanting to work with them. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.279 I wouldn't even say she was a lifestyle vlogger. I 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.200 think originally she was one of the attractive girls that 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.440 posted hot photos, and then they tried to move into 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.760 the lifestyle space. She's always had a bit of an 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.440 edge though with travel content, which has set her apart. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.880 She's actually great to watch. I've enjoyed returning to her 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.479 channel because she gives a lot of advice on places 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.760 to go and stay and eat in BALI like herve 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.719 loogs are always in sight for is she a lawyer 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:01.040 as well? 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.760 She is a lawyer. She's very smart. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.360 She got heavily screwed over before COVID because she launched 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.280 her own traveling at like I think it was twenty twenty, 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.200 literally just as COVID struck. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:11.599 Yeah. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.279 Well, I'm still very confused though about why they're selling cases. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.520 So this hasn't really shed any light on what their 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.680 plans are going to be going forth in Balley. It's 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:19.920 just made things more confusing. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.800 If anything, I have every single person that's ever met 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.680 the polls messaging me saying that they are in support 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.560 of me, and they cannot believe that I have finally 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:29.360 come out and said it. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.360 The war of words has continued between Mikayla Tester and 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.200 Karina Koff, the only fans stars have taken to Snapchat, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.160 of all places, to take personal potshots at each other. Kate, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.919 you took one for the team and watch Mikayla's thirty 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.159 minute clapback video. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:46.599 Can you tell us what we missed? 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:46.800 Oh? 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.320 I really did take one for the team. I'm like, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.680 I better screen record what's going on. Surely it won't 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.719 take that long to watch. And you know, when the 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.600 little dots they were so small, and I was like, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.560 I'm nearly at the end, and then they kind of 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.560 just kept increasing. The worst thing is, I feel like 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.680 we're so used to TikTok now where you can put 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.359 things in fast forward, but you can't do that on Snapchat. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:05.919 I know I was wishing I could it in fast 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.480 forward now. Amid a lot of complicated friendship drama around 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.200 the women's former clique, there were a few nuggets of gold, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.880 the first being that Mikayla Tester claims that Anna Pol's ex, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:21.039 Glenn Thompson has been texting her messages of support. This is, 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.480 of course, since Mikayla put Anna Poul on blast last month. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.440 So while addressing Karina's claims that she's a compulsive liar, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.960 Michayla said this, this. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.800 Was something that I experienced in my life that was 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.120 very traumatic, that I experienced for many years. I have 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.839 many receipts to back it up. Glenn Thompson's texting me 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.800 saying I'm so sorry about all of this. I remember 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.080 it all. I'm here supporting you. Glenn Thompson data anaple 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.960 for eight years. If you're behind. I have every single 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.320 person that's ever met the Paus messaging me saying that 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.320 they are in support of me and they cannot believe 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.800 that I have finally come out and said it. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.960 I think to give this a little bit of context. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.280 As Michayla mentioned, Anna and Glenn dated for eight years 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.000 before they announced their split in August twenty twenty three, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.440 and at the time the news broke the internet and 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:06.839 fans were left devastated. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:07.800 It's actually our. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.200 Most viewed video on TikTok. I remember it was a 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.960 Saturday night. I was sadly sitting at home not doing much, 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.520 and I thought, I'm going to get this out there. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.120 This is huge news for Jens. But it ended up 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.320 clocking up four million views, so people were absolutely devastated 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:25.600 by this. Since then, Anna has painted a pretty unrealistic 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.680 picture of her and Glenn having the most amicable breakup 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.120 in history. So Anna has shared vlogs of the former 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.840 couple celebrating Christmas together with their families, and even gave 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.400 Glenn his dream car. That was so weird because this 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.160 was a car that was around two hundred and fifty 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.440 thousand dollars plus, and you know they just went out 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.720 to some casual dinner with both of their families, and 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.200 then she surprised him with the car in the car 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:50.560 park downstairs. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.440 And it's like sorry. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.680 It almost looked as though she was paying him off 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.320 and saying, look, please don't say anything. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:55.680 Bad about it. 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.080 Well, despite this narrative that she's trying to push that 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:04.400 this relationship breakdown was mutual and very amicable, Anna's new boyfriend, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.160 Amrik has always been the elephant in the room. So 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.520 Amork suddenly started appearing in Anna's vlogs fresh after the breakup, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.240 and at the time she kept referring to him as 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.440 a family friend, but it became very clear that it 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.320 was more than that. Well, a lot of people thought 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:18.800 he was Addis's boyfriend. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.360 Yes, I do remember that. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.200 I mean, he's now a permanent fixture in Anna's vlogs. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.000 I mean, she is still yet to confirm the relationship status, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.560 but it's fairly obvious. There's been a lot of bread 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.600 crumbing about this relationship, and it's becoming frustrating for fans 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.840 because we'd rather than just be transparent and come out 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.440 and say that they're together, particularly because there's members of 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.080 the public who were spotting them out about canoodling. For instance, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.160 there was a video of them making out in the 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.560 Wit Sundays in a pool that went viral on TikTok 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:43.040 and it's like. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.400 We all know you together. I love the word canoodling. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.120 I do think it is Anna's inability to address what's 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.559 actually going on with Amrik which has led many people 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.200 to believe that perhaps there was a crossover between Glenn 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.800 and Ahmrik. Well, and also, as you said, her behavior 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.120 of perceivably trying to buy him off. Yeah. Well, the 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.560 second revelation, and to come from Mikayla's snap story, is 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.000 that she plans to permanently move to the US with 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.160 her American fiance Max Crouch. I wonder if this is 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:09.719 after her podcast drops. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.319 In Australia's just like out of here. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.280 I was wondering if maybe she's going to move there 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.320 and release it then, because the defamation laws are different 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:16.920 in America. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:18.440 Oh, that's actually a good point. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.000 Well, she'd still need to ensure that it met Australia's 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.920 defamation laws if she was releasing it in Australia, it'd 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.920 be different if she only dropped it in America. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.679 Hmm, Yeah, that is a good point. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.400 I suppose it depends how she is planning to stream 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.120 this podcast now. Mikayla dropped the news that she's moving 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.239 to the US while defending her relationship with the bodybuilder. 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.280 She shot down Carna's claims that her relationship was one 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.480 of convenience, declaring, it's not a big fake sham for 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.840 a green card. I can see why Karina is trying 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.440 to take this pot shot because anyone who has followed 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.760 Mikayla closely knows that she is so keen to get 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.800 into America. She said that she loves American boys. But 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.439 if you look at this couple together, they're both incredibly 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.880 good looking. They both seem to have a lot of 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.839 interests that are the same. They're both huge on social media. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.680 I don't think that. I mean, if this guy was 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.600 some loser that she had just met off the street 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.319 who had nothing going for him, maybe you'd think that way. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.040 But they're both winners, slight. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.320 Ninety day fields. I smell a rout here. I mean, yes, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.959 I understand where you're coming from, But the timeline of 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.000 them getting engaged, I think they were only dating for 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.440 five months before they did get engaged. It's a little 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.000 bit fishy, but sometimes this just happens with couples where 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.640 if they're from different parts of the world, they know 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.240 that perhaps they're going to have to get married in 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:31.839 order for them to live in the same country. It 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.319 doesn't mean that she's using him or he's using her. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:35.720 That's only five months. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.680 I feel like they've been together for a lot longer. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:38.800 Since they got engaged. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.040 No, it was five months between it well that they 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.960 publicly announced that they were together. Now, Mikayla, as you 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.920 touched on, Sophie, has a very interesting relationship with the 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.720 US so she has been detained by US border forces 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.280 twice and was deported in April twenty twenty three for 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.280 an accidental violation of her electronic system for travel authorization 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.000 known as an esther now by telling the harrowing story 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.600 in detail on her TikTok On Tuesday night, Mikayla changed 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.199 her story, saying this. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.600 Yes, I had my visa revoked from the United States. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.320 I'm not banned and I'm not deported from the United States. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.880 It's just that my visa was revoked. My eVisa, which 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.080 is like the easiest visa, so you just get it 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.040 from typing online. It was revoked in twenty twenty three. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.760 I was turned away and sent back to Australia. That's 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:32.040 not getting banned or deported or whatever. So I don't 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.680 need a green card to get into the United States. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.400 I could just apply for another visa and pray pretty much. 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.800 So that's fucking not true. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.560 We reported in a lot of detail on this story 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.040 back in April twenty twenty three, and there were numerous 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.480 times on her TikTok where she said I have been deported. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.760 I don't know if that was in a bid to 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.240 create more engagement on her TikTok videos. Yeah, that's what 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.240 I was wondering, because she has come out recently and 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.679 said that she really played up being devastated about her 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.959 breakup with Adams Paul. So I think that there is 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.520 a lot of manipulating of content going on, which probably 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.720 doesn't look the best when you're trying to defend claims 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.400 that you're a pathology. But also she's accused Anna Pole 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.560 of pretty much the same thing, for pretending to be 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.280 a different person or hyping things up in order to 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.480 get views. I mean, let's be honest, it's what all 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.040 influencers do. I think Mikayla should have stopped while she 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.600 was ahead, because she also said this, I. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.680 Forgot one more thing. She was talking about my fiance 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.960 and how I'm using him for a green card. Although 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.600 there are some truth to what she is saying with that, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.640 it's just been spun in the worst way possible to 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.480 try and make me look like a really bad person 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.200 and Max look like he's just getting taken for a ride, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:43.439 when that's not reality at all. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.320 Again, I think the wording is off. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.760 To say that there's some truth to what Karina is 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.520 saying about her using her fiance for a green card. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.320 Is rather awkward. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.960 This is why she needs to stick to the script. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.520 It worked really well when she called her Anna poul 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.520 and obviously she'd thought about what she was going to say, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.320 and she had a written in front of her. I 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.040 think when you go on a rand, well a thirty 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.080 minute rant on snapchat, you're getting in dangerous territory. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:07.800 Yeah. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.360 And in this bid to defend the relationship, she mentioned 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.720 that she was actually talking to Max before she was 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.640 detained in the US in April twenty twenty three, to 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.880 prove that she was interested in him before he could 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.400 get her into the US. It's a really hard situation 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.880 to be in when you know how you feel about someone, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.400 but you're trying to defend it, and it's almost like 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.520 word vomit. It makes it sound worse. I don't think 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.319 she has to prove to anyone that she's in love 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.440 with her fiance. She shouldn't have even gone into the 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.760 weeds of it now. As for the move to the US, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.400 Mikayla confirmed that she is planning to permanently relocate to 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.720 America and has applied for a K one visa. Reminds 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.480 me so much of ninety Day Fiance and she said 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.959 that she came to the decision after Max started getting 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.080 homesick in Australia, and she really made a point to 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.600 say that Max approached her about it. 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.000 She then said this, Max and I were going through 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.080 some issues and Karina had said to me, what happens 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.160 if you get to America and he gets really jealous 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.760 and he starts to say that you. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.280 Know how to come to my house and hang out 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.600 with me and stuff like that. This was issues that 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.320 Max and I were working on at the time. And 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.200 I don't even fucking want to come on here and 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.560 say this shit, but we did have issues, just like 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.600 any other relationship, a small issue that has been completely resolved. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.200 Now I mentioned to her will like, I'm going to 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.920 go to the United States and see how it goes. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.440 Then I don't believe that he's going to do that 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.840 to me, but we'll see type vibe. That's what she's 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.120 going on. Shut the fuck up, Like, tell the full story. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.840 If you're going to tell the story, don't just not 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.160 give context and try and paint a whole relationship as 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.920 this big fake sham for a green card. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.760 It would be really annoying for Mikayla to actually have 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.880 to confirm that her and her fiance have been arguing, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.520 because it really does provide fuel to Corrina's claims that 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.520 they're having all these issues and she's just using him 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.640 for a green card. Just shows how low some of 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.000 these TikTokers will go for views though, like the fact 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.160 that they're each attacking each other so much about their 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.360 personal live This wasn't even on TikTok and I do 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.920 want to talk about the fact that this war of 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:03.040 words broke out on Snapchat because Snapchat is really trying 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.560 hard to lure top creators back to their platform for 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.280 a long time now, in the past year, creators posting 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.040 publicly on Snapchat has actually tripled, and it looks like 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.960 that number is likely to increase because they have now 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.640 launched this new monetization program. So they've been really strategic 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.480 with the way they've gone about it, because they announced 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.560 this new program in December when the US was trying 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.040 to ban TikTok, and the new program officially launched in February, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.479 and it gives creators more ways to make money on Snapchat. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.440 So previously the platform paid influencers some of the money 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.200 that they earned from the ads placed within their snap stories, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.760 but now it's expanding the program to include ads that 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.800 are within the longest spotlight videos. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.160 Now I still use Snapchat, but I didn't even know. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.040 What spotlight videos were until I did a bit of digging, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.400 and basically they're just literally Snapchat's version of the TikTok 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.120 for you, Paige. There are a lot of rumors going 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.240 around the influencers and also reality stars are being paid 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.720 a lot of money by Snapchat, not only to promote it, 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.840 but to return to the app because a few years 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.960 ago it was very much dying. Nobody used Snapchat, and 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.640 especially publicly, like you might use it to send stuff 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.000 to your friends, but you would I don't know if 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.160 I agree with this strategic move from Snapchat, because for me, 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.760 the lure of Snapchat has always been that it's a 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.280 way to connect with your friends. You don't have to 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.840 get caught up in online drama involving celebrities and influencers. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.240 Like I don't go there to find out news or 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:29.920 information about other people's lives. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:31.520 I want to connect with my friends on there. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.440 But that means it will be the platform that you 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:34.560 can do all of those things. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.200 Yes, but we've already got places to do it. I 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:38.640 just think it becomes too confusing. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.960 Well, there are reports that Instagram might be launching a 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.280 separate app for reels, and this is off the back 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.720 of the looming TikTok ban in the US, So you 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.520 can see there are a lot of apps that are 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.440 hoping to benefit off the potential ban. Yeah, you can 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.840 see the big players in the social media space as 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.880 scrambling to take hold of TikTok users if they get 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.400 the opportunity. And it's really clear that the move from 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.320 Snapchat is to get the big creators back on because 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.160 with this monetization program, you actually have to hit pretty 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.160 high benchmarks to be invited to be part of the program. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.720 So creators must have fifty thousand followers and either ten 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.520 million snap views or one million Spotlight views or twelve 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.359 hours of watch time in the last twenty eight days. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.000 And you also have to post really consistently at least 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.480 twenty five times a month. So you can see why 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.160 Mikayla Tester and Karina Coough have decided to air these 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.680 very long rants at each other on a platform like Snapchat, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.479 Because when I was watching Mikayla's videos, there were so 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.320 many ads in it, and she is really banking up 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.080 her hours, no doubt, to make big money off it. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.080 Do you guys think this ads to the theory that 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.160 this is a completely orchestrated argument between this pair. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.119 Well, it wouldn't surprise me. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.000 Is this like the female version of Jake Paul getting 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.000 in the ring in her house fake boxing matches. It's 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.879 definitely lucrative for both of them to be involved in 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.600 this feud, and it seems like Karinakof has just inserted 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.800 herself into the drama and Mikayla's been like, well fuck yeah, 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.800