1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Mikayla Testa 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: denies her engagement as a sham for a green card. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Anna Paul faces the heat in her first public appearance 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: and our Friday Debrief but first. Barley based influencer Talia 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Scaines has jetted back home to Australia following the shock 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: news that an Ilouatu mansion is up for sale. The 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: lifestyle influencer revealed she's back on the Gold Coast to 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: work on her latest renovation projects, So if can you 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: bring us up to speed well? As we reported on 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Tuesday's show, there's been a lot of speculation around why 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Talia and her boyfriend Jake Sajano are selling their three 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: story mansion in Iluatu. The couple moved to Bali just 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: two years ago, and they documented the build of what 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: they dubbed their dream home on Talia's YouTube channel now. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Construction on the villa, which the couple named Cassas Su, 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: only finished in September last year, with Talia posting about 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: final pieces of custom furniture being installed, and how surreal 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: it felt to be finally living in her dream home. 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: So they really gave the impression that this villa was 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: going to be their permanent home at least for a 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: few years, and it wasn't just some sort of investment property. Now, 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Talia hasn't given a reason yet as to why they're selling, 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: which has led to further speculation. There's a lot of 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: followers who are questioning, well, is she moving back to Australia. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Have the couple broken up, or have they run out 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: of money? Or maybe was this the plan all along 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: because Jake is a property developer, but again it was 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: never sold as being this business opportunity. Well, Talia has 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: confirmed that she will continue to live in Bali and 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: she said that she's excited for the future. Jake has 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: been absent though from her recent vlogs, and that has 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: led to some whispers, but Talia addressed this in her 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: latest YouTube video, saying he's been struck down with dengi 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: fever and has been bed better. That's very bally for you. 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Because even though Talia and Jacob lived in Bali for 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: two years and they've been there for so many different trips. 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: They said that they've rarely been sick in Balley, so 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: this was a bit of a shock for them. They've 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: both never had DNGI fever. Talia said, both of them 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: have rarely had Bali belly as well. Their God's probably 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: immune to it now that they're low cost well. Talia 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: surprised everyone on Thursday when she randomly posted that she 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: was back home on the Gold Coast, which led to 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: further speculation, but she followed it up with a YouTube 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: video revealing that she will be in the country for 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: ten days because she's preparing to renovate yet another house. 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: This time it's one that she purchased back in January 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four on the Gold Coast. Now, on Tuesday, 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: we did discuss that Talia had a secret project in 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the works, but she wasn't going to reveal until later 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: in the year, and I thought perhaps that this was 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: a new property in Bali that the couple were developing 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: after the sale of Casas Sue, But she revealed in 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: this new YouTube video that she'll be taking her followers 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: along for the ride as they renovate this Australian property. 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: Here's what she. 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Said, I feel potentially this could be even more exciting 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: for you guys. Obviously it's not going to be a 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: three story massive mansion overlooking Dreamland Beach like Cassasu, but 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: it is in Australia. I know most of my audience 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: on here is in Australia. It's probably likely that a 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: lot of you will want to do a renovation in 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Australia at some point, or do like some mild cosmetic 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: renovation on like. 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: A property or whatever. 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: So I feel like it could be really interesting for 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: you guys. 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: So did she choose to release the news now rather 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: than later in the year because of all the speculation 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: going on about Cassasu. Well, she claimed that she was 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: holding off from telling everyone about it because she hadn't 75 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: worked out which platform she was going to share the reno's. 76 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: You think she's been following Laura Burn and Maddy Jay's 77 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: renovations of their beach house and realize that renovating a 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: house in Australia is probably a lot more profitable from 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a sponsorship perspective. You can get Bunnings involved in try 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and get local deals. I also think she realizes that 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: it's slightly more relatable than were renovating this three story 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Balley mansion, because she touched on the fact that she 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: thinks that, you know, her average watcher will actually get 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: more from this new renovation channel than they did from 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: her casta. So I wouldn't say that Maddie and Laura's 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: house was that relatable though. No, but the thing that 87 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: makes it relatable is that it was an absolute dump 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: to begin with, as in it was so run down. 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: It's an interesting niche for Talia though, to do all 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: of these home renovations, because I've read a lot about 91 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: how typical influences like Talia from back in the day 92 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: that we're just doing lifestylev logs, they're very much dying 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: out because brands are no longer wanting to work with them. 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say she was a lifestyle vlogger. I 95 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: think originally she was one of the attractive girls that 96 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: posted hot photos, and then they tried to move into 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: the lifestyle space. She's always had a bit of an 98 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: edge though with travel content, which has set her apart. 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: She's actually great to watch. I've enjoyed returning to her 100 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: channel because she gives a lot of advice on places 101 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: to go and stay and eat in BALI like herve 102 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: loogs are always in sight for is she a lawyer 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: as well? 104 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: She is a lawyer. She's very smart. 105 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: She got heavily screwed over before COVID because she launched 106 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: her own traveling at like I think it was twenty twenty, 107 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: literally just as COVID struck. 108 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: Well, I'm still very confused though about why they're selling cases. 110 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: So this hasn't really shed any light on what their 111 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: plans are going to be going forth in Balley. It's 112 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: just made things more confusing. 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: If anything, I have every single person that's ever met 114 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: the polls messaging me saying that they are in support 115 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: of me, and they cannot believe that I have finally 116 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: come out and said it. 117 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: The war of words has continued between Mikayla Tester and 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Karina Koff, the only fans stars have taken to Snapchat, 119 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: of all places, to take personal potshots at each other. Kate, 120 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: you took one for the team and watch Mikayla's thirty 121 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: minute clapback video. 122 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: Can you tell us what we missed? 123 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 124 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: I really did take one for the team. I'm like, 125 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: I better screen record what's going on. Surely it won't 126 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: take that long to watch. And you know, when the 127 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: little dots they were so small, and I was like, 128 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm nearly at the end, and then they kind of 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: just kept increasing. The worst thing is, I feel like 130 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: we're so used to TikTok now where you can put 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: things in fast forward, but you can't do that on Snapchat. 132 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: I know I was wishing I could it in fast 133 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: forward now. Amid a lot of complicated friendship drama around 134 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the women's former clique, there were a few nuggets of gold, 135 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the first being that Mikayla Tester claims that Anna Pol's ex, 136 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Glenn Thompson has been texting her messages of support. This is, 137 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: of course, since Mikayla put Anna Poul on blast last month. 138 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: So while addressing Karina's claims that she's a compulsive liar, 139 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Michayla said this, this. 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: Was something that I experienced in my life that was 141 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: very traumatic, that I experienced for many years. I have 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: many receipts to back it up. Glenn Thompson's texting me 143 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: saying I'm so sorry about all of this. I remember 144 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: it all. I'm here supporting you. Glenn Thompson data anaple 145 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: for eight years. If you're behind. I have every single 146 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: person that's ever met the Paus messaging me saying that 147 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: they are in support of me and they cannot believe 148 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: that I have finally come out and said it. 149 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: I think to give this a little bit of context. 150 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: As Michayla mentioned, Anna and Glenn dated for eight years 151 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: before they announced their split in August twenty twenty three, 152 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: and at the time the news broke the internet and 153 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: fans were left devastated. 154 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: It's actually our. 155 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Most viewed video on TikTok. I remember it was a 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Saturday night. I was sadly sitting at home not doing much, 157 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm going to get this out there. 158 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: This is huge news for Jens. But it ended up 159 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: clocking up four million views, so people were absolutely devastated 160 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: by this. Since then, Anna has painted a pretty unrealistic 161 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: picture of her and Glenn having the most amicable breakup 162 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: in history. So Anna has shared vlogs of the former 163 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: couple celebrating Christmas together with their families, and even gave 164 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Glenn his dream car. That was so weird because this 165 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: was a car that was around two hundred and fifty 166 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollars plus, and you know they just went out 167 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to some casual dinner with both of their families, and 168 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: then she surprised him with the car in the car 169 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: park downstairs. 170 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: And it's like sorry. 171 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: It almost looked as though she was paying him off 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: and saying, look, please don't say anything. 173 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: Bad about it. 174 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Well, despite this narrative that she's trying to push that 175 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: this relationship breakdown was mutual and very amicable, Anna's new boyfriend, 176 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: Amrik has always been the elephant in the room. So 177 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Amork suddenly started appearing in Anna's vlogs fresh after the breakup, 178 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: and at the time she kept referring to him as 179 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: a family friend, but it became very clear that it 180 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: was more than that. Well, a lot of people thought 181 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: he was Addis's boyfriend. 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember that. 183 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's now a permanent fixture in Anna's vlogs. 184 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, she is still yet to confirm the relationship status, 185 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: but it's fairly obvious. There's been a lot of bread 186 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: crumbing about this relationship, and it's becoming frustrating for fans 187 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: because we'd rather than just be transparent and come out 188 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: and say that they're together, particularly because there's members of 189 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: the public who were spotting them out about canoodling. For instance, 190 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: there was a video of them making out in the 191 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: Wit Sundays in a pool that went viral on TikTok 192 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and it's like. 193 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: We all know you together. I love the word canoodling. 194 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: I do think it is Anna's inability to address what's 195 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: actually going on with Amrik which has led many people 196 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: to believe that perhaps there was a crossover between Glenn 197 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: and Ahmrik. Well, and also, as you said, her behavior 198 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: of perceivably trying to buy him off. Yeah. Well, the 199 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: second revelation, and to come from Mikayla's snap story, is 200 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: that she plans to permanently move to the US with 201 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: her American fiance Max Crouch. I wonder if this is 202 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: after her podcast drops. 203 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: In Australia's just like out of here. 204 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I was wondering if maybe she's going to move there 205 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: and release it then, because the defamation laws are different 206 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: in America. 207 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: Oh, that's actually a good point. 208 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Well, she'd still need to ensure that it met Australia's 209 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: defamation laws if she was releasing it in Australia, it'd 210 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: be different if she only dropped it in America. 211 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: Hmm, Yeah, that is a good point. 212 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: I suppose it depends how she is planning to stream 213 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: this podcast now. Mikayla dropped the news that she's moving 214 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,239 Speaker 1: to the US while defending her relationship with the bodybuilder. 215 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: She shot down Carna's claims that her relationship was one 216 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: of convenience, declaring, it's not a big fake sham for 217 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: a green card. I can see why Karina is trying 218 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: to take this pot shot because anyone who has followed 219 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: Mikayla closely knows that she is so keen to get 220 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: into America. She said that she loves American boys. But 221 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: if you look at this couple together, they're both incredibly 222 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: good looking. They both seem to have a lot of 223 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: interests that are the same. They're both huge on social media. 224 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I mean, if this guy was 225 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: some loser that she had just met off the street 226 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: who had nothing going for him, maybe you'd think that way. 227 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: But they're both winners, slight. 228 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: Ninety day fields. I smell a rout here. I mean, yes, 229 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, But the timeline of 230 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: them getting engaged, I think they were only dating for 231 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: five months before they did get engaged. It's a little 232 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: bit fishy, but sometimes this just happens with couples where 233 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: if they're from different parts of the world, they know 234 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: that perhaps they're going to have to get married in 235 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: order for them to live in the same country. It 236 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that she's using him or he's using her. 237 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: That's only five months. 238 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: I feel like they've been together for a lot longer. 239 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Since they got engaged. 240 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: No, it was five months between it well that they 241 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: publicly announced that they were together. Now, Mikayla, as you 242 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: touched on, Sophie, has a very interesting relationship with the 243 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: US so she has been detained by US border forces 244 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: twice and was deported in April twenty twenty three for 245 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: an accidental violation of her electronic system for travel authorization 246 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: known as an esther now by telling the harrowing story 247 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: in detail on her TikTok On Tuesday night, Mikayla changed 248 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: her story, saying this. 249 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I had my visa revoked from the United States. 250 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm not banned and I'm not deported from the United States. 251 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: It's just that my visa was revoked. My eVisa, which 252 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: is like the easiest visa, so you just get it 253 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: from typing online. It was revoked in twenty twenty three. 254 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: I was turned away and sent back to Australia. That's 255 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: not getting banned or deported or whatever. So I don't 256 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: need a green card to get into the United States. 257 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: I could just apply for another visa and pray pretty much. 258 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: So that's fucking not true. 259 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: We reported in a lot of detail on this story 260 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: back in April twenty twenty three, and there were numerous 261 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: times on her TikTok where she said I have been deported. 262 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was in a bid to 263 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: create more engagement on her TikTok videos. Yeah, that's what 264 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: I was wondering, because she has come out recently and 265 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: said that she really played up being devastated about her 266 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: breakup with Adams Paul. So I think that there is 267 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: a lot of manipulating of content going on, which probably 268 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: doesn't look the best when you're trying to defend claims 269 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: that you're a pathology. But also she's accused Anna Pole 270 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: of pretty much the same thing, for pretending to be 271 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: a different person or hyping things up in order to 272 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: get views. I mean, let's be honest, it's what all 273 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: influencers do. I think Mikayla should have stopped while she 274 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: was ahead, because she also said this, I. 275 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: Forgot one more thing. She was talking about my fiance 276 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: and how I'm using him for a green card. Although 277 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: there are some truth to what she is saying with that, 278 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: it's just been spun in the worst way possible to 279 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: try and make me look like a really bad person 280 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: and Max look like he's just getting taken for a ride, 281 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 4: when that's not reality at all. 282 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: Again, I think the wording is off. 283 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: To say that there's some truth to what Karina is 284 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: saying about her using her fiance for a green card. 285 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: Is rather awkward. 286 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: This is why she needs to stick to the script. 287 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: It worked really well when she called her Anna poul 288 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: and obviously she'd thought about what she was going to say, 289 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: and she had a written in front of her. I 290 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: think when you go on a rand, well a thirty 291 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: minute rant on snapchat, you're getting in dangerous territory. 292 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 293 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: And in this bid to defend the relationship, she mentioned 294 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: that she was actually talking to Max before she was 295 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: detained in the US in April twenty twenty three, to 296 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: prove that she was interested in him before he could 297 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: get her into the US. It's a really hard situation 298 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: to be in when you know how you feel about someone, 299 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: but you're trying to defend it, and it's almost like 300 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: word vomit. It makes it sound worse. I don't think 301 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: she has to prove to anyone that she's in love 302 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: with her fiance. She shouldn't have even gone into the 303 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: weeds of it now. As for the move to the US, 304 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Mikayla confirmed that she is planning to permanently relocate to 305 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: America and has applied for a K one visa. Reminds 306 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: me so much of ninety Day Fiance and she said 307 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: that she came to the decision after Max started getting 308 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: homesick in Australia, and she really made a point to 309 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: say that Max approached her about it. 310 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: She then said this, Max and I were going through 311 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 5: some issues and Karina had said to me, what happens 312 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: if you get to America and he gets really jealous 313 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: and he starts to say that you. 314 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: Know how to come to my house and hang out 315 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: with me and stuff like that. This was issues that 316 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: Max and I were working on at the time. And 317 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't even fucking want to come on here and 318 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: say this shit, but we did have issues, just like 319 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: any other relationship, a small issue that has been completely resolved. 320 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: Now I mentioned to her will like, I'm going to 321 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: go to the United States and see how it goes. 322 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: Then I don't believe that he's going to do that 323 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: to me, but we'll see type vibe. That's what she's 324 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: going on. Shut the fuck up, Like, tell the full story. 325 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: If you're going to tell the story, don't just not 326 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: give context and try and paint a whole relationship as 327 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: this big fake sham for a green card. 328 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: It would be really annoying for Mikayla to actually have 329 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: to confirm that her and her fiance have been arguing, 330 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: because it really does provide fuel to Corrina's claims that 331 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: they're having all these issues and she's just using him 332 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: for a green card. Just shows how low some of 333 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: these TikTokers will go for views though, like the fact 334 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: that they're each attacking each other so much about their 335 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: personal live This wasn't even on TikTok and I do 336 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about the fact that this war of 337 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: words broke out on Snapchat because Snapchat is really trying 338 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: hard to lure top creators back to their platform for 339 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: a long time now, in the past year, creators posting 340 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: publicly on Snapchat has actually tripled, and it looks like 341 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: that number is likely to increase because they have now 342 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: launched this new monetization program. So they've been really strategic 343 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: with the way they've gone about it, because they announced 344 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: this new program in December when the US was trying 345 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: to ban TikTok, and the new program officially launched in February, 346 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,479 Speaker 1: and it gives creators more ways to make money on Snapchat. 347 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: So previously the platform paid influencers some of the money 348 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: that they earned from the ads placed within their snap stories, 349 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: but now it's expanding the program to include ads that 350 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: are within the longest spotlight videos. 351 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: Now I still use Snapchat, but I didn't even know. 352 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: What spotlight videos were until I did a bit of digging, 353 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: and basically they're just literally Snapchat's version of the TikTok 354 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: for you, Paige. There are a lot of rumors going 355 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: around the influencers and also reality stars are being paid 356 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money by Snapchat, not only to promote it, 357 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: but to return to the app because a few years 358 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: ago it was very much dying. Nobody used Snapchat, and 359 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: especially publicly, like you might use it to send stuff 360 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: to your friends, but you would I don't know if 361 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I agree with this strategic move from Snapchat, because for me, 362 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: the lure of Snapchat has always been that it's a 363 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: way to connect with your friends. You don't have to 364 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: get caught up in online drama involving celebrities and influencers. 365 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Like I don't go there to find out news or 366 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: information about other people's lives. 367 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: I want to connect with my friends on there. 368 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: But that means it will be the platform that you 369 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: can do all of those things. 370 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: Yes, but we've already got places to do it. I 371 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: just think it becomes too confusing. 372 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Well, there are reports that Instagram might be launching a 373 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: separate app for reels, and this is off the back 374 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: of the looming TikTok ban in the US, So you 375 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: can see there are a lot of apps that are 376 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: hoping to benefit off the potential ban. Yeah, you can 377 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: see the big players in the social media space as 378 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: scrambling to take hold of TikTok users if they get 379 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity. And it's really clear that the move from 380 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: Snapchat is to get the big creators back on because 381 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: with this monetization program, you actually have to hit pretty 382 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: high benchmarks to be invited to be part of the program. 383 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: So creators must have fifty thousand followers and either ten 384 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: million snap views or one million Spotlight views or twelve 385 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: hours of watch time in the last twenty eight days. 386 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: And you also have to post really consistently at least 387 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty five times a month. So you can see why 388 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester and Karina Coough have decided to air these 389 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: very long rants at each other on a platform like Snapchat, 390 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 1: Because when I was watching Mikayla's videos, there were so 391 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: many ads in it, and she is really banking up 392 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: her hours, no doubt, to make big money off it. 393 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you guys think this ads to the theory that 394 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: this is a completely orchestrated argument between this pair. 395 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't surprise me. 396 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Is this like the female version of Jake Paul getting 397 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: in the ring in her house fake boxing matches. It's 398 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: definitely lucrative for both of them to be involved in 399 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: this feud, and it seems like Karinakof has just inserted 400 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: herself into the drama and Mikayla's been like, well fuck yeah, 401 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Anna Paul's not responding to me, she's ignoring all of 402 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: the drama. Let's fight with this girl, well, the fact 403 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: that they were friends before, and also now that Mikayla 404 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: has said that she plans to move to the US 405 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: because fighting with the US creator gives her credibility on 406 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: the US stage. I think she really wants to make 407 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: it big in America and this is a step forward 408 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: because made big headlines in Australia and the US when 409 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: she took on Anna Poul. If anyone from Snapchat is listening, 410 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: our one suggestion is please put the fast forward feature 411 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: on the stories. 412 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: Though I'm ready for F one They one. 413 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: TikToker Anna Paul has faced the heat in her first 414 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: public appearance in Australia since the I Felt Broke controversy. 415 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: The only Fans. 416 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: Creator was invited by American Express to attend its F 417 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: one vip lounge, which was part of the F one Paddock. 418 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to know when the invites went out, did 419 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: she get it before the scandal broke? And with the 420 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: PR team like, holy shit, do we only write it 421 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: or what do we do with Sam Magnan who runs 422 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: a very successful PR company called Spin and Co. He 423 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: actually popped up in one of Anna's vlogs about her 424 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: day at the F one, and he is also her 425 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: business partner in Pauli, So I wonder if he was 426 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: part of inviting her to the event, or whether she 427 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: was invited by another PR firm and they were just 428 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: catching up. I wonder if he wanted to be in 429 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: that vlog because a lot of people have been questioning 430 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: who was Anna's PR team, and you know he is connected. 431 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: He has got a PR coming. I'll be very surprised 432 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: if he was involved in her state. I still think 433 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: it's a win for the F one having a rock up, though, 434 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: because it adds a bit of drama. Well, unsurprisingly, she 435 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: hung out most of the time at the paddock, which 436 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: is basically where all of the rich and famous people converge, 437 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: and it's where they've got all of these high dining 438 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: experiences and all of the best views of the track, 439 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: and they also have the opportunity to rub shoulders with 440 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the F one drivers and teams and watch the cars 441 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: get worked on. So there's a lot of jealousy involved 442 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: with who actually gets to attend these events. And while 443 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: she did spend most of her time there, she did 444 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: have to venture into the crowds to make her way 445 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: up to the the various VIP areas, and last year 446 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: when she attended the f One, TikTok was full of 447 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: fans posting sightings of her at the event and gushing 448 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: about how excited they were to see their queen in 449 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: the flesh. But this year was a very different story 450 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: because I saw so many videos of people mocking her. 451 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: So they'd see her out and about at the f One, 452 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: they'd film her, and then they kept using the viral 453 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I Felt Broke audio. One that was getting a lot 454 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: of attention was a video of Anna at the paddock 455 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: and they created a video questioning if she felt broke 456 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: watching the f Ones from the pit. There was another 457 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: TikTok user who posted a video from where they were 458 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: watching it in the GA area, and I think it 459 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: was the Sunday where there was really bad weather. There 460 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: was a lot of rain and all of the people 461 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: in the GA area were basically stuck in the mud, 462 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: like the whole thing had turned into this mud pit. 463 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: And they wrote point of view, you don't have a 464 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: paddic pass on race day with the I Felt broke 465 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: audio over the top. I think the only way that 466 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: Anna's going to move on from this is it if 467 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: she starts to embrace it and inserts herself into someone well, 468 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: she's got a coke fun at herself and be self deprecating. 469 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: And I think the more Mikayla Tester uses her platforms 470 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: to put an appalled on blast and then have these 471 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: arguments with Kreen of Cough and then put out the podcast, 472 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: I think by the time this podcast drops, people are 473 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: going to be over it and going to be like, Oh, 474 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: I just want to watch Anna's cool travel volos. It 475 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: Like Chloe and Mitchell avil Strategy, they just put their 476 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: head down and focused on themselves family Strategy. After a 477 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: year or so, everyone was like, Oh, they're not that bad. 478 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be working though, because whenever she 479 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: uploads a new vlog I instantly go to the comment 480 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: section to sort of gauge the vibe, and you can 481 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: really feel the frustration in the comment section. One user 482 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: wrote under the vlogs, the vlogs don't hit the same anymore. 483 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: The trust has been broken, whilst another said I get 484 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: a weird feeling every time you post a new video. 485 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: The vlogs really have had a different vibe and I've 486 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: noticed that she has been speaking a lot more about 487 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: getting drunk. For instance, in one of the f one vlogs, 488 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: she was talking about how she and her friends were 489 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: going out early that day and making sure they had 490 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: a big breakfast to line their tummies, and then she 491 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: was showing them drinking all these cocktails at the Marquee 492 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: and eating all this lavish food, and it just came 493 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: across as very out of touch. Well, I mean, her 494 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: locks have always been completely out of touch. But then 495 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: she would put on this nice girl persona that was like, Oh, 496 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: I deserve all of this because I'm really nice to 497 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: my family. And now that people think, oh, that might 498 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: have been a bit of a charade, people are like, oh, this. 499 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: Doesn't hit the same. 500 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: I noticed Adis was mia in her vlog, and it 501 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: also appears that he didn't attend the Grand Prix because 502 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: no one posted seeing him. 503 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: Do you think he's fearing for his own safety at 504 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: the moment. 505 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: I definitely think he wouldn't feel safe going out to 506 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: an event like this, particularly one where there's a lot 507 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: of young people like jen Zetas. 508 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Who know who he is. I think he would be 509 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: scared of getting. 510 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: Abused in public, and I also think that Anna doesn't 511 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: feel comfortable to post with him yet because she just 512 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: knows that he's going to be the focus and her 513 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: comments already so well. At the start of this topic, 514 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: I said, I wonder if American Express were regretting inviting 515 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: Anna Paul, and I wonder when she actually got the invite, 516 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: perhaps they stipulated that she wasn't allowed to bring adas 517 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: pool because you don't really want that around your brand. 518 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: Definitely that that's a really good point. 519 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: One of my favorite comments though, in the first flog 520 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: that she uploaded at the Grand Prix. It was a 521 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: really hot day. So the first day, Day one was 522 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: really hot and then the weather turned shit. But basically 523 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: she was saying how hot she was and she was sweating, 524 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: and people in the comments section were saying, oh, we 525 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: better not got for a hug because she hates sweaty people. 526 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 527 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: Well, all of this drama has really affected her views. 528 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Her TikTok numbers are down, her followers are dropping. It's 529 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: pretty crazy because she usually gets at least a couple 530 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: of million views for each of her videos, but her 531 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: last few vlogs have only sat around the four hundred 532 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: to six hundred thousand view mark. 533 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: God. 534 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: The fact that people aren't even hate watching anymore. Well, yeah, 535 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: I thought all of the hate comments might lead to 536 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: more engage from here. 537 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: They haven't been. 538 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it shows just how much your videos are 539 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: impacted if you lose a couple of million followers, like, 540 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: the algorithm must be off for her. Now let's get 541 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: into our Friday debrief, and I'm going to kick us off. 542 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: So I had a really great weekend because reason, I 543 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: had our first night out since Jack was born nine 544 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: months ago. So while we have gone out to different occasions, 545 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: we've always bought dak with us, so it was really 546 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: weird to go just with my handbag, not some big 547 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: baby bag and a pusher and a travel coot. And 548 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: of course Jack, when we were walking to the restaurant, 549 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: We're like, this is so weird. I'm disappointed I didn't 550 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: see a photo of your outfit because you guys went 551 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: to a country was a Country Western Diamond Sea party 552 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: was at it. So we had a fortieth and it 553 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: was a Rodeo Daimonti or something theme. I think it 554 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: was the same thing that Chloe Kardashian had for a fortieth. 555 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: I'm disturbed that we're going to fortieth now. It seems 556 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: like it was twenty first, not that long. 557 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: Fair. It's a work colleague of Reese's. It's not your 558 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: what she is a friend now, but you know what 559 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean. 560 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it was actually making me excited for our 561 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: fortieth because I think people should celebrate these milestones. And 562 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: what was really cool was it actually turned into a 563 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: surprise wedding, so during the speeches, they were like, oh, 564 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: we've actually got a celebrant here. We're going to get married. 565 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: So that was really cool. And it's so funny because 566 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I say night out, but we ended up getting home 567 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock. I text mom at ten thirty, like, 568 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: we're on our way home. And it's funny because when 569 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: you become parents, you also in your relationship with your 570 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: parents revert back to childhood because now I need either 571 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: my parents or Reese's parents to come over so we 572 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: can go out, but. 573 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: You need be a permission. 574 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: Mum, Can I go out? And I'm coming home anyway? 575 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Mum replied, being like, are you sure? I think she 576 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: thought we were going to stay out way later. But yeah, 577 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: it was a great night. I didn't have such a 578 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: good weekend. I've got another update on my renos, which 579 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: hasn't been fantastic. How is hotel heying? Ah, she's coming along, 580 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: she's coming along a renovation. She was bit polished, But basically, 581 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: we found out on the weekend that we have asbestos 582 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: in our kitchen and laundry area, which we've been renovating. 583 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: Thank god, no one cut into it. 584 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: So basically, for those who aren't up to speed with 585 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: my reno's, we've been completely doing up our kitchen a 586 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: laundry area ourselves. When I say ourselves, I haven't actually 587 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: been doing your in laws. My in laws and Brandon 588 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: have been doing everything because it's one of those like 589 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: diy kits that we've got, and this is a much 590 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: more relatable reno than Kasa suit. Yeah, oh yeah, my god, 591 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: very low scale, but basically, yes, So we discovered that 592 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: we had asbestos in a section above our sink area. Luckily, 593 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: this guy that brand had found he removed it for 594 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: only two hundred and fifty bucks. 595 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: But was he legit? 596 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: He was legit, but he said he didn't wear a 597 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: hazmat suit. Well he didn't because apparently, like I've learned 598 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: that there's different grades of asbestos. This was I think 599 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: was B grade or something or second grade. It wasn't 600 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: as bad anyway. We weren't going to get the asbestos 601 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: removed in our laundry, but we've discovered that in order 602 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: to put all of the laundry equipment in, we potentially 603 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: may have to drill into the wall. So we just 604 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: don't feel safe not removing it. So there's another thousand 605 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: dollars that we're spending Tomorrow. I've got to be out 606 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: of the house for a couple of hours with Archie 607 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: and I were just to end this podcast on a 608 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: I have got some really exciting news, and it is 609 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: the date of my sea section or your baby's birthday. Yeah, 610 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: my baby's birthday. Isn't it weird when they ring you 611 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, is this stay okay, and you're like, wow, 612 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: it's a pretty pivotal day for the rest of my life. 613 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I had to ring them because originally I was told, oh, 614 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: you'll get the call seven weeks out from the sea 615 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: section to date, and I was waiting and waiting. I thought, 616 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: stuff it, I'm going to call them up and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, 617 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: we've booked in the baby's birthday or whatever as X 618 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: and I'm apparently second on the list, which is really 619 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: exciting because you were third and that took all day 620 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: to get it through. Yeah, I was behind two second cesarean, 621 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: so women that had already had a previous cesarean. So 622 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: apparently it's a little bit more complex. So yeah, I 623 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: got there at ten am and didn't get to go 624 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: in until about four. 625 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: Well. 626 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if TikTok is secretly listening into my conversations, 627 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: but I have just been flooded with tiktoks on caesarean births, 628 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily think is a good thing because 629 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of them have been quite negative. 630 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: Why not pick my brain about it? 631 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: No, No, Well did you get the shakes? No? I didn't, Okay, 632 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: because a lot of women are complaining about the shakes 633 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: and vomiting and all this kind of stuff, and I'm like, oh, 634 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: I need to get off this algorithm. No, I didn't 635 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: get any of that, not to say it's not going 636 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: to happen to you, but I think it's good that 637 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: you know that there's a long wait period, because I'm 638 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: thinking maybe sofinn I can go in and kind of 639 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: do a little bit of a rotation. 640 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: Because it was just do that. 641 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: Why not? 642 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know anything about it. I mean I 643 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: said today or maybe he should bring some card games, 644 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: bring in his switch, all that sort of stuff. 645 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just scrolling on our phones. I actually 646 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: started playing tetris. Well, it's sort of. 647 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Like you're waiting for the firing squad almost like you're 648 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: just sitting there. Like we had to wait so long 649 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: that it was so exciting when they actually came in 650 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're next. And then also yeah, and 651 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: also because I hadn't eaten or you know, allowed to 652 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: drink water until then, I think like four am or something. 653 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: So I did Reese actually watch the surgery because I 654 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: said that to Dale last night. I said, will you 655 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: actually peek over and see all my insides and all 656 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: of that? And He's like, I don't know, because he 657 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: normally likes all of that gory stuff, like all the 658 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: pimple Popper videos. He said, when it's someone they actually 659 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: know and love, it's a little bit different. 660 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, rees did look. 661 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: But he's the type of person that said he would 662 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: love to sit in on a surgery, like he loves 663 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. 664 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: Just my tip is don't look up. 665 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there reflective surfaces like I saw way too much. 666 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: I've joked that I'd like to roll in just with 667 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: sunglasses on, because I feel like it makes you feel 668 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: a bit disconnected from the whole experience. 669 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if they'd allow that. 670 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Then you kind of have to make sure that your 671 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: eyes are all right. I also want if anyone has 672 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: some suggestions of songs to play, because you do get 673 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: to choose what album or you have on. I mean, predictably, 674 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking Taylor Swift, but I don't know if I 675 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: want to associate if it's a really negative experience, if 676 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: I've get the shakes or on vomiting, I don't know 677 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: if I want to have Taylor playing. Generally, the birth 678 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: of your child is a positive experience. 679 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know, but you know what I mean. 680 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: Like, I remember when I got some laser done on 681 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: some of my freckles and I was blaring Taylor Swift 682 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: and it really ruined this song. Yeah, I wish I 683 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: had thought about the song because they asked me and 684 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: I just said Taylor Swift, and I don't even recall 685 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: what song was playing when. 686 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: Jack was born. 687 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: I had a thought the other day because Dale and 688 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: I really love collectively listening to the Spice Girls, which sounds. 689 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: To be odd just looking you imagine. 690 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Having that place stop right now. Well, that's where we're 691 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: going to leave things today. Thank you again for listening 692 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: to another episode of Outspoken. 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