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Speaker 1: Podcast nine Our Voices. Quick heads up.

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Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on Bros

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Speaker 2: and Cons. We talk about real life and we're committed

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get it your lose.

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Speaker 3: I still want to dance with my crew from my

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everyone to another episode of Bros and Cons

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Speaker 4: where we discuss life trials, tribulations and triumphs as well.

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Speaker 4: We try and outline all aspects of life with the

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Speaker 4: past experiences that we've had and hopefully we can show

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Speaker 4: the ropes and you learn a thing or two.

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Speaker 1: Today. My name is Ronnie.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, also known as r g or ron

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Speaker 4: Gotti Malick couldn't be here today his absence, So I

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Speaker 4: have a special guest with me today.

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Speaker 1: Here we have Jay Lex.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I many of yous didn't know that me, Jay Lex,

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Speaker 4: and Malik are actually bothers. We're all one year apart

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Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah, yeah, so the bond's very tight. And

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Speaker 4: this this episode is very special because even though the

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Speaker 4: boys are going through going through court cases, you know,

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Speaker 4: they can't they can't affiliate, you know, the the bail

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Speaker 4: conditions are there. So we we obviously have to do

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Speaker 4: podcasts at different times, different schedules. So anyways, let's let's begin,

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Speaker 4: you know, let's begin. So everyone wants to know Jay,

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Speaker 4: so from Mike to millions, So this is speaking on

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Speaker 4: from basically, oh you know what, we just going from

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Speaker 4: the beginning because me and Malick basically already outlined the past.

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Speaker 4: So I think that people want to hear your side

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Speaker 4: of the story, and you know, what was going through

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Speaker 4: your mind? You know, back then, where were you at life?

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Speaker 1: Speak your mind?

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Speaker 4: What was the character like? Who are the people that

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Speaker 4: impacted you? What was your influence?

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Speaker 2: But I remember growing up first of all, even before

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Speaker 2: I said I saw you. I'm so proud of these guys,

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Speaker 2: this is my younger brother. Why he's interviewing me. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy, Bro, this guy's got an education.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Could never do this with older brothers. But yeah, So

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Speaker 2: I walk you back to the very beginning. So I

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Speaker 2: was originally born in the Capitol in Canberra. And what

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Speaker 2: my parents did back then, they what they did. They

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Speaker 2: gave birth to me and then they took me straight

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Speaker 2: over to the Islands to Tonga. If Ronnie, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you remember a lot of us. We grew

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Speaker 2: up in Tonge all the way up until the belt

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Speaker 2: of age of what seven or eight in Tonga, we

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Speaker 2: to all the people over there, and quick shoutout to

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Speaker 2: all my family from Tonga. So my mom's family side

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Speaker 2: side is from l We also known as Nilah. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: back to the story, So grew up in Tonge and

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Speaker 2: then my parents slowly bring us back down to a

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Speaker 1: A very little what was it a two to three bedroom?

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Speaker 4: It was a two three bedroom, It was a three bedroom.

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Speaker 4: the girls always get treated.

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Speaker 1: Like the queens and we have to sleep on the floor.

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Speaker 1: So that's how we all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty much they're pretty much exactly as you

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Speaker 1: She's like the gift, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But before we get carried away talking about girls dancing,

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Speaker 2: where were we talking about Toma? So, yeah, we grew

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Speaker 2: You and Malick came as little young freshy Tonguins and

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Speaker 2: speak on every other area and every other city, every

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Speaker 2: and it was almost like it meant it meant something

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Speaker 2: like that lad gear, Like it's like you were what.

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Speaker 1: Do they call it? Cha?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you can't you I don't know how

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Speaker 4: to explain it, but it was it was a thing

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Speaker 4: You don't see comes wearing it, but that was like

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Speaker 2: The remember the the Henley cargo the Henley. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: pants which is around green or something, you know, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: They don't remember that.

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Speaker 4: Rushies or roachies, what's right? Yeah, yeah, everyone was wearing that. Bro,

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Speaker 4: everyone was wearing that, I remember.

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Speaker 2: And then you have your Henney's all g star your

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Speaker 2: you have your your few people wearing your dry fit,

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Speaker 2: that dry pit cap, and then you're added as bombay

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Speaker 1: Wow, you know what it's like? It was.

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Speaker 4: It was such a style back then that if you

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a status thing. And now if

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Speaker 4: Like decretraight lad.

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Speaker 2: But you know what's mad, It's mad how far our

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Speaker 2: like like what's considered like good fashion and.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think everythings changed. Some of the old

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Speaker 1: I look back at it. Ratchet, ratchet, yeah oh man

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Speaker 2: There was some Islanders, some Islanders with the remember the skucks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what is that thing? Where you like it? That

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Speaker 4: he was he was dragon balls.

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Speaker 1: These guys were like the emo guy. It was just weird.

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Speaker 4: You know, every every every high school year just had

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Speaker 1: That is that we have the big straight and munllets

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then coming back to that. So growing

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Speaker 2: up in Grandville, we started off. It's very interesting. Actually,

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Speaker 2: my parents put us in a Catholic college called Delaney College.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Delaney.

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Speaker 2: College College, shoutow all the Delaney students still messaging.

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Speaker 1: Me, swear you when he broke one of the teachers

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Speaker 1: don't speak to anyone from Delaney, any few speak to

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Speaker 4: And not only a few, but probably two or three

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Speaker 1: We had a we had a really good time at Glany.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know what, it's not a bad school at all.

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad school at all.

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Speaker 4: It's actually one of those schools where you're you're thriving

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Speaker 4: to be someone you reckon. Like if you went to

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Speaker 4: go to a private school, you're already automatically placed in

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Speaker 2: And I think the teachers in private schools they care

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Speaker 2: a little bit after Delaney College, I got expelled, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: that's a whole different story. But at Delaney College, I

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not like, oh yeah, they here to read it,

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Speaker 2: you know, the what do you call it? The whatever

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Speaker 2: the textbook is the algorithm or whatever. The yeah, they

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Speaker 2: here to read it out. They've got something to teach

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Speaker 2: for the day and then that's it. Whereas in the

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Speaker 2: and they really care about you, know, you, like as

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Speaker 4: That's like me too, I reckon I was like one

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Speaker 4: of the top smart kids in Dealane in Delaney, but

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Speaker 4: I think after we got shipped off to like these

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Speaker 4: and I think, well, we forgot to tell them.

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Speaker 1: Why we got shipped off.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, our parents couldn't afford us being in a private school,

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Speaker 4: so that's the main reason why we got shipped off

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Speaker 4: to the public schools. So knowing us, we've we grew

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Speaker 4: wanted the best for us, so they tried to get us,

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Speaker 4: you know, the best schools. And even though they took

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Speaker 4: us to a hectic private school in Delaney, which is

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Speaker 4: in Marylands, they still couldn't afford it. After like to

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Speaker 4: one or two years. Fuck, we ended up going from

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Speaker 4: there Bro I think everything went downhill from there. We

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Speaker 1: There you go, Delany charging too much. You know, if

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Speaker 1: we're the Laney will probably wouldn't be here.

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Speaker 4: I reckon this car. Would have been a lawyer. I

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Speaker 4: would have been some type of engineer or I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's that's how I hated the de Laney students. Man's

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Speaker 4: actually smart man.

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Speaker 1: What was your best subjects over there?

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Speaker 4: My best subject, hands down. My best subject was obviously music. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: After school, let's have a fight, shunner, like during lunchtime,

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Speaker 2: So I think a lot of the younger boys growing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I remember I remember hearing a

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Speaker 4: But yeah, man, fucking did how far?

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Speaker 1: I look? How fine? Now?

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Speaker 4: Anyways, So I think now that we kind of outline

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting, Actually twenty one district was it was

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Speaker 2: It was a very fragile idea at that time, one

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Speaker 2: I'll imagine I wrapped and I've done this. It was

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Speaker 2: The reason why soorry, the reason why it actually ended

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Speaker 2: His name, well, he's passed away now. His name was Tino.

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Speaker 2: So while all of this feud was happening. I just

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, remember that, I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been business makers, We've been business guy.

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Speaker 1: I had the entrepreneur it was eighteen. That's that's badman.

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Speaker 2: Yoh so and up starting that business. And then while

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Speaker 2: And I'm still like, I'm still greening to all of this.

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Speaker 2: But then I ended up catching my attention because I

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Check the snapchat anyways. I check it and I look

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Speaker 2: I'm not a rapper. I've never been a musician. My

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 2: And I like to hold my word to it as well.

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Speaker 1: It was just that simple. We didn't think it was

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Speaker 2: Think this thing was going to break out into this

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be in it because I didn't

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Speaker 1: It sounds chat.

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Speaker 4: You know, this guy's fucking verse becomes the most controversial

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Speaker 1: I was deading it Bro in the studio. I was like,

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Speaker 2: We ended up doing it like we ended up just

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Speaker 1: But we didn't.

439
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 4: We didn't know how to take it because all that

440
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: stuff was so new to us. And keep in mind

441
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: that it was just like we jumped on this boat

442
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: and now we just got to sail wherever the boat.

443
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: Now, we just got to sail. And that's pretty much, realistically,

444
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: pretty much what happened. That's the position that we're in.

445
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: We've we've we've started the boat and now we just

446
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: have to say all the waves.

447
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: We had no choice, we had no choice.

448
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: And then here we are three nincom fucking sitting in

449
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: its sitting in a garage with fucking paper and a pen.

450
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: We're like, does this sound good? Does this sound good? Oh?

451
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: But you know what's mad?

452
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: I think that the best thing I got out of

453
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: it was the time I spent with my brothers. We've

454
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: almost been closed since we grew up, but I think

455
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: the bond that we've had with each other, and there's

456
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: been a lot of there's been a lot of casualties

457
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: along the way. When I say casualties, I mean the

458
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: brother spent two years inside and cause because of this,

459
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: and also Malik, and there's been a number of other

460
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: things that have happened because of this dream that I had,

461
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: this vision that I had. They we we all knew

462
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: the consequences. But the type of people my brothers are

463
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: exactly like I am. To them, if one of us

464
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: want to do something, it's just a straight yep, that's.

465
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: It, we'll do it.

466
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: And we've always had that kind of just there's no

467
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: handshakes after there's no, oh thanks, thanks, Dark's brogh you

468
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: know I love you.

469
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: Thank you.

470
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: No, it's this is natural for us. We were born

471
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: like that, we were raised like that. That we are

472
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: we are born for each other, to look after each other,

473
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So there's actually a matter

474
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: of Bible verse on that as well. Yeah, a friend

475
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: loves at all times, but a brother is born for

476
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: a time of adversity.

477
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: Stop it, stop, get out.

478
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to take We're gonna have to take two.

479
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 4: It's important to get those verses in easters coming around.

480
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 4: The corner is coming around, it's coming, and get those

481
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: phrases and cursed out.

482
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: But he's gotta get him out.

483
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: Look, I think in every aspect of of of mankind,

484
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: brotherhood has played such a significant part, like whether you're

485
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: religious or not, even in jesus early days when he

486
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: was doing miracles walking on the water people around those days.

487
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: You don't always only hear Jesus, You hear Jesus and

488
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: the disciples. The disciples. Jesus was always with his disciples

489
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: everywhere he went. And then even if not from a

490
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: religious standpoint, you have like all these other like the

491
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: early medieval armies and the families that ruled nations. You know,

492
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: gang is calm like all these people like they show

493
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: you how important like a family, you know, a family

494
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: orient thing. You can you can take over the world

495
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: with your family. With friends, you can go so far.

496
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: Probably get a couple of cute gifts. But with your brothers,

497
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: with your blood brothers, it's a blessing.

498
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Man. If you got brothers. If you've got blood brothers

499
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: and you don't speak to them, shame on your, Shame

500
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: on your Your brother is a true gift to you

501
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: from God.

502
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: Get in there, man, It's it's not too late, you know,

503
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: and connect. Rekindle Yo, your blood brother will always be

504
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: your blood brother. You know he's birth came from the

505
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: same parents. He's both came from the same roof. You know,

506
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: he's both ate together, he's both drained together. Yeah, piss

507
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: and shirt in the same toilet.

508
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: But it's important and crazy because I think people are

509
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: starting to normalize that. They don't they grow away apart

510
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: from their siblings as I grow older.

511
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: And why is that? Is it?

512
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 4: Because maybe because one gets married, this brother gets married

513
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: and their wives, you know, maybe their wives are not

514
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: getting along. I think you know what I think that

515
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: plays a big part. I think a big part.

516
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: It's very interesting that you say that, because it is

517
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: very it's like they're kind of pushing for you know,

518
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: they're just in general the separation of the nuclear family.

519
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: Like obviously they're trying to push the you know, we

520
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: all know about the feminism and stuff, the husband and wife,

521
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 2: but even the siblings. It's not very it's not very

522
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: it's not very big that people talk about their siblings

523
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: these days. And I think that we need to normalize,

524
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, being your siblings, being your closest friends, yeah,

525
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: or the most the most people you rely on, because

526
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: I think it's important, Bro, it's important. You've got people

527
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: out here that I've heard stories of people that have

528
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: killed or like threatened to kill their blood brothers over money,

529
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: over drugs. This is insane, but this is the world

530
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: we live in, and this has happened. It has happened

531
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: in there. Everyone that knows what I'm talking about knows

532
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. It has happened, and it's it's

533
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: it's starting to get normalized. People that don't care about

534
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: their blood anymore. We've got to bring that back. Family,

535
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: We've got to bring that back what's that time.

536
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I know that went pretty good.

537
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 4: Okay, So here we go to onto the next segment

538
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: leaving the streets behind.

539
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: So I think we're going to get more into.

540
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: Depth about how you left, how you left the whole

541
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: street affiliated stuff like this, yeah, the street scene, and

542
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 4: then coming on to more where you've grown into a

543
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: person where your entrepreneur ventures are starting to happen, you know, like, yeah,

544
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: tell the people what it's like to you know, just

545
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: start thinking differently and start thinking like just not like

546
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: the ordinary person. You can't think of like the ordinary

547
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: person now, No, no, no, your mind's like a it's a clockwork, yo.

548
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: It's like you're never sleeping when you are sleeping.

549
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: Yo. Yeah.

550
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: So, like I mentioned before, when I got out of

551
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: Juvie and I started my first company, Iron Form Work,

552
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: I will never forget this because I used to get

553
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: teased a lot when I when I was telling my

554
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: friends that I was going to drop out of high

555
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: school to you know, just to pursue whatever I wanted.

556
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Basically, I just.

557
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Didn't find the need for anything in high school. And

558
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: years later I found out I was right, I was true.

559
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: And how I knew that is because when I left

560
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: school and I started my first iron form work business.

561
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends that.

562
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Did graduate, you remember, and they coming and working for me.

563
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: So and this is not a boast. This is not

564
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: a boast at all at any means what I'm trying

565
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: to I'm trying to draw a picture for you to

566
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: see that is not made for everyone.

567
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: It's not built for everyone.

568
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: They've got like one one sheet of you know, strategies,

569
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, and they're giving it to everyone. This this

570
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: is going to be good for everyone. This is how

571
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: you were all going to excel. But everyone's different. Some

572
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: people it's going to help. For some people it's it

573
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: won't it won't help. So back to that business, that

574
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: was my first taste of business and man, and it was.

575
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: It was shocking because as an eighteen year old I

576
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: was I didn't have a license.

577
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a white card.

578
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: A lot of my brothers that we've all started businesses

579
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: without a white card, even without a license. I started

580
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: this business while I was trying to get my l's.

581
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: So I hadn't got my l's yet, I still hadn't

582
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: done my tests. And I'm there in a big construction

583
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: site with a big folder and I've got a high

584
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: visvest pretending that like I'm not.

585
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: But I did have the voice.

586
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: I had the tone, And I think being confident will

587
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: get you a lot of places in business. If you're

588
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: able to talk well, Bro, you can, you can bullshit,

589
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 2: You're way for anything.

590
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Straight up. This this guy, straight up, this guy had

591
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: the character. Man.

592
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: I remember back then, and I remember clearly as they

593
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: back then what was going on because he made me

594
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: his leading handy time, and.

595
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: He was seventeen. I was only seventeen.

596
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: And and fucking I remember I remember asking Jay, like,

597
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: you know, I want I want more money. You know,

598
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: I like this money, but I feel like I'm working hard.

599
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: And then He's like, yeah, fucking ef I'll get you

600
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: to be my leading hand.

601
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: Bro.

602
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: I was making a lot of money at seventeen, was

603
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: making I was making at least fifteen hundred. Remember I

604
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: was seventeen at this time. I was making fifteen sixteen

605
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: hundred a weeks, crazy, and I was buying a lot

606
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: of my friends, like you know, food and stuff closing.

607
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: It was a cracker.

608
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: But I remember when I was this leading hand because

609
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: I didn't have the talking confidence that Jay had. I

610
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: remember I thought like a bit of jealousy from some

611
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: of the boys that I used to work.

612
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like all.

613
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: These boys are you know, like thirty, like late twenty years,

614
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: they're way older than me. They hated they hated us,

615
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: but it was when it was back then, you know,

616
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: it was.

617
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Man, I feel like I feel like being able to

618
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: if you can present yourself very clearly and you can

619
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: be confident. These are already two big keys, already two

620
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: massive keys. If you can do those two, man, you

621
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: can take over.

622
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Any any industry, industry. And what I used to do

623
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: was what I used to do.

624
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: I still remember my first contract. He's like, oh, yeah,

625
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: can you just send me over the the insurances. You

626
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: guys do have insurances. I'm like, yeah, insurances, Yeah, we

627
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: got them. And I'm like, oh, what an email do

628
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: you want me to send them to? And he's like,

629
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I will send you the thing to send

630
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: me to. As soon as I get off the phone.

631
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm already on Google and Google insurances for formwork businesses,

632
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: you know. And then I had another guy and he's like, oh,

633
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: just send me your swims. You're for those who don't

634
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: know that safety work method of statement in the construction industry,

635
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: and it's someone a big company will be like, hey,

636
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: send me this, and then I'll be like, oh, yeah,

637
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: do you want me to do you want me to

638
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: send you the full package?

639
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: This is this is an example of showing how a bullshit.

640
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: I'll be on the phone, I'm like, do you want

641
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: me to send you the full package or the small package?

642
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to procrastinate to so he can explain

643
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: a bit more in detail what he needs me to

644
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: look up on Google explaining.

645
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need the full package or the short package?

646
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: And it goes now, mate, I just need as long

647
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: as you get the swims heading and then you got

648
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: the you know, just a couple of pages of safety

649
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: measures for the boys and then where they sign off

650
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: at the end. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I got that.

651
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: I got that. I got exactly what you're talking about.

652
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: That's how you do it.

653
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: And then I done that for a long time and

654
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: we were, man, I was bathing in money like I've

655
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: never seen that top money. Yeah, it was crazy. Like

656
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: at one point I had thirty boys under me. Yeah

657
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: that was and you know, and this is it. This

658
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: is an example. They everyone was qualified.

659
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I didn't even have my learner license.

660
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's to go to show you that your

661
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: heart and your mind can take you.

662
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: It can take it. To believe. You have to believe

663
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: and you have to make it a strong will and

664
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: you will do it.

665
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: You end up doing it. So that was my first

666
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: taste of business. A lot of people don't know that.

667
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: That's so that I was already always wanting to be

668
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur. Today I have now, I've got currently we've

669
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: got we've got around four businesses running at the moment.

670
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 2: Two of them are just coming up off the ground.

671
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're not rich, but we're very blessed.

672
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Praise God, Praise to God.

673
00:34:49,560 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 4: Who All right, so, oh you know what, let's talk

674
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 4: about thirty four minutes.

675
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: Let's quickly talk about the drug world. You know, I

676
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of these.

677
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: Like if he's if you haven't seen yet our last

678
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: video where we're talking about bub and and heroin, I

679
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: think that's a that's a subject we need to bring

680
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: up because at one point, I think me and my

681
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: brothers were very deeply into Like I think at one

682
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: point even me and myself, I was addicted to rack

683
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: to rack.

684
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: It is slow build up with cocaine. Anyways.

685
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: At one point I was addicted to to raq also

686
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: known as cocaine. But fuck me dead. I think I

687
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: think everyone knows in Australia that Sydney is one of

688
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: the most flooded places with rack. You know, you know,

689
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: just coming from not from rehab fuck up. I ended

690
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 4: up rehabbing my own self. Bro Ya, that's the way.

691
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: But that's the way, bro Like, you don't want to

692
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: get to the point where you actually have to go

693
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: to rehab as man, that's fun.

694
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: Someone that's feed me from a spoon. Rogers knocked me

695
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: like someone one of someone just come and knock me

696
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: at the rehab cent of someone that a man stay

697
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: away from drugs. Drugs only just they cause havoc, cause chaos.

698
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: Let's talk about our worse experiences just so people can

699
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: get like an idea of how bad it can get

700
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: and you guys can relate to it because I know

701
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of your cuns have probably

702
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: had worse times.

703
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: And he's gonna laugh in the car.

704
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: I remember this one time, this, this is what this

705
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: was the turning point for me. So it was around

706
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: a time where we released Compressor. When we released Compressor,

707
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: I think it was like the song the first song

708
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: they were released when.

709
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I got out.

710
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: Anyways, we when to go release it and then we're

711
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 4: at Bankstown Bankstown Hotel or something banks On Hotel. There

712
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: was like a little there was a tab on the

713
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: bottom floor, and I remember we went in there and

714
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: we're drinking. And keep in mind that I was already

715
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: on the bender from the night before, so I haven't

716
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: really slept and I'm looking for more lines to rack.

717
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: So anyways, we meet up with the boys. All the

718
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: boys are together, some of the boys from Guildford as well.

719
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: We link up and obviously with more boys comes with

720
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 4: more rack. So we're downstairs and after a few drinks,

721
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: we head up upstairs and I think we're going through

722
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: not only rack but ketamine as well, and I just

723
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 4: remember simultaneously doing different lines. At one point, I didn't

724
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: even know which line was what. I was just sniffing

725
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 4: anything and everything around me. I wouldn't be surprised I

726
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: was sniffing sugar that night, but anything would have just

727
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: went up my nose. But yeah, anyways, I remember being

728
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 4: really really paranoid that I started to believe my own

729
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: in a demon So I thought I was I thought

730
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: we were getting followed by police that night, and all

731
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: the other boys are normal, They're not thinking this. I'm

732
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: thinking that, you know, we're so I'm telling the boys like, oh, guys,

733
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: just watch out. You know, these these two guys are

734
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: following us to our room. But these two two guys

735
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: there were like a gay couple, and they just looked

736
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: like police officers to me. Remember, yeah, these two guys

737
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: were walking together. They weren't holding hands, but there were

738
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: a gay couple. And I remember one guy just looked

739
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: like a He looked like some navy seal marine. He

740
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: was wearing cargo pants, you know, some laced up boots,

741
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: and he had a had a short clean yeah, and

742
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: I was thinking, like, fuck, this guy's got to be

743
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: a police.

744
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: This guy's got to be police.

745
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: Anyways, we went downstairs for more drinks and these guys

746
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: were looking at me like my paranoid level is at

747
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: max at this point. And because I'm so paranoid, the

748
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: boys are asking me, are you're right running? And I'm

749
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah. I walk back up to the room

750
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: and like while we're walking back up to the room,

751
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 4: these guys are like walking behind us, and the boys

752
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 4: keep going to the room and I just turn around

753
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: and I just start running. And I run to the front,

754
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 4: the front entry of banks and the hotel, and there's

755
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: already a taxi there. I jump into the taxi. I'm

756
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: thinking that that there's cops chasing us, you know, And

757
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: I'm in the taxi. Indian driver is just driving, you know,

758
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: And I start to think that this Indian driver is

759
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 4: also a police officer. Tell him to stop the taxi

760
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: and I gotta the taxi and I just started running.

761
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: I started legging it. I started jumping over houses, jumping

762
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 4: over fences and stations, stations, and at one point I

763
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: jumped over a station fence that had it was very

764
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: tall and had barbed wires around it, and my leg

765
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: got stuck. I remember hanging it off and I just

766
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: ripped my leg out. I tumbled over and I fell

767
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 4: down a cliff of rocks and fucked me there. I

768
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 4: think I broke my leg down. Oh, all my clothes

769
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: were ripped, my shoe was ripped, my toe was coming out,

770
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: and I just remember I was just running running. This

771
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 4: was from Bankstown host Bankstown Hotel. I ended up at

772
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: Liverpool Station, so I ran all the way to Liverpool

773
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: Station on foot and fucking amazing.

774
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: Anyone on drugs broke, these guys, they get super human powers.

775
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: I definitely had superhero powers because that night I thought

776
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: there was a helicopter chasing me.

777
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: This is is what I kept my adrenaline going.

778
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 4: I thought there was a helicopter, so many police, police cars,

779
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: and man, the adrenaline and energy that I had in

780
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 4: me was just like normal.

781
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: Fuck me that like I would have.

782
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: I'm glad I didn't hurt anybody and I was just

783
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 4: hurting myself, and that whole night I was hurting myself.

784
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: I ended up under a car or a g wagon.

785
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 4: I remember calling one of the boys at the hotel

786
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: and facetiming him and it's like where you where you

787
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, I'm just hiding under, hiding under

788
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: this car. Police are getting me. You know, I'm going

789
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: to get locked up. I'll call you later. I love yours.

790
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: But I was ugly.

791
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: Never again, never again again.

792
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: That that was that was the turning point for me.

793
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: But U I hate bringing that story up, but fuck.

794
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Me, yeah crazy man, yeah, just stay away from drugs,

795
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: bro me. My worst experience was just a bad hangover.

796
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now we're gonna have to cut the whole,

797
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: but what the hell, I was just gonna say how

798
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: bad it was the worst hangover. This guy's this guy's,

799
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: oh bro, that was fucking ugly.

800
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: And but keep in mind, I've never I've never even

801
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: touched my Mochael, but I've I've smoked bube in jail.

802
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 4: I remember it was Marcelli's birthday and I was kind

803
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: of like forced into it, and like I was getting out,

804
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: I was going home, so I didn't want to feel

805
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: like a bad come and he was telling me, he

806
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: was like, but then be a fucking bad count.

807
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Smake the bube with me. You know you you train

808
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: every day. I'm sick of it. Your fucking healthy count.

809
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: It's good, but it's good, Like it's good that you

810
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: guys are bringing awareness to how hell it is the

811
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: in prison because you know what, you know what's right.

812
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: You don't. It's hard.

813
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: It's easy for us to say it out here, but

814
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: then the boys inside there when you got your backs

815
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: pushed against the corner. Ye haven't heard from your missus

816
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: in like a week, you know, and you're like, yeah, yeah,

817
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: you know you don't like the boys that you're forced

818
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: to be in with something is going to give you know.

819
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: So I think it's really good that this that we're

820
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: shedding light on this podcast and hopefully eventually it reaches

821
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: out to these prisons. Yeah, to let these boys know

822
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: that we all understand how it feels.

823
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's good. Definitely bro yoh oh shoot on

824
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: time coming onto.

825
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: Is there any is there any success stories that you

826
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: kind of want to like tell the people about yourself,

827
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: like trials and tribulations, Like what what are the things

828
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: that you have done or overcome or what's something that

829
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: you want to like, what's an advice for the people?

830
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: I think I think one of the most one of

831
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: the most impactful things I've done in my life, especially

832
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: in the recent years, is stop drinking and drugs. And

833
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: I know it's so profound, like a lot of people

834
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: already say this, but there.

835
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Are a lot of you.

836
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that have potential, especially in

837
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: our community, US Island.

838
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of us.

839
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: We have a lot of potential, but we're held back

840
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: from these pointless drink ups. We have all these pointless

841
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: drink ups every weekend, and then you know, it's just

842
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: a waste of time.

843
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Waste of time.

844
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: And I realized, like one of the small things I

845
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: do that I change because I used to get a

846
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: haircut every Thursday and Friday so I look fresh for

847
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: the weekend. Now I get it on Monday to look

848
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: fresh for the week. So little things like that just

849
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: to set up my new, you know character, because I

850
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: don't want to be getting ready for the weekend. Now

851
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: I get ready for the week, you know. And the

852
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: little things like this, it makes a big difference definitely

853
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: us Islanders. We need to cut out the pointless drink

854
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: ups and stop getting stop getting pissed off your face

855
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: at weddings. It's okay to be it's okay to get

856
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: on the piss here and there. But you know, just

857
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: because paros versus bulldogs doesn't mean you have to start,

858
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: you know, going and getting Burger sugar and.

859
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: Paying on the pokes.

860
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: And I'm only saying this because I was there. I'm

861
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: only saying this because I was there. Every time I

862
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: would be like and everyone knows an orel is every week,

863
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: so I can't wait to this.

864
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: That's all I hear everywhere.

865
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah you got once you once, you get ahold of

866
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: your yourself and your health. You start realizing, like how

867
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: much potential you have, like at the moment. Uh So,

868
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: one of one of the businesses I have is in

869
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: the trade section air conditioning.

870
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: To be specific.

871
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: I won't I'll shed more light on the than everything

872
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: after later on, and also the other stuff I got

873
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: going on. But these things I couldn't do it if

874
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: I was on the drugs and drinking all the time.

875
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: It takes real hard YAKA. So shout out to all

876
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: the boys that are really doing their time, you know,

877
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: out there in the sun doing everything the right way.

878
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: Props to you, guys, bro Props to you guys, because

879
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: it's much harder, it's much harder to do that then

880
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: to just get a little fixed and like I feel good.

881
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: You know, that's I think that's some real talk, right.

882
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: There's proper alpha lad proper alpha men that they can

883
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: you know, you don't need, you don't need, you don't

884
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: need jukes to feel good to go to like a

885
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: birthday or an event, and you can sit sober through interactions.

886
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: This is proper alpha male stuff, proper alpha male stuff.

887
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: And I'm coming to the end of the podcast.

888
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: Maybe you want to just shed some shed some light

889
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: onto the young and maybe a few words of for

890
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: the young's just growing up. Any advices for them like

891
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: their life decisions, choices with their future well being, maybe

892
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: like trades, anything like business, especially like any advice is

893
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: for those young is that potentially want to go through

894
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: that pathway?

895
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: I think definitely one of the easiest way to get

896
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: your foot in the door. Find something if you can't,

897
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: find something you're good at, find something you like if

898
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: you like, find something simple that you like, and start

899
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: from there. Start from small steps. What do you want

900
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: to do with this thing?

901
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Do you like?

902
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: You want to run a business? Do you want to

903
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: do it as in work? What do you want to do?

904
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: And then from there do everything the right way, everything

905
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: the right way. It's actually quite easy to run a business.

906
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: To start a business, sorry, to run a business, that's

907
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: what takes guts. But to start a business, it's for free.

908
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: To make a bien, it's for free to do to

909
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: go knock on doors and ask people to use your services.

910
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: It's for free. Everyone knows this. And social media is

911
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: for free. That's the best.

912
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: It's the marketing tool best.

913
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: It's for free.

914
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: And you know one thing that that probably like that,

915
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: like people don't really usually talk about when it comes

916
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 4: to businesses. I think the main thing, it's just all

917
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: businesses have a marketing tool. Whether it's you're trying to

918
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: market who you are as a as a.

919
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: Company, or your story.

920
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: I think that's the that's the main important thing when

921
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: you're trying to run a business. You know, you're trying

922
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: to you're trying to market your story, like what's your

923
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: message behind it? And I think marketing is a very

924
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 4: powerful tool when it comes to business. At the end

925
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: of the day, it is all about marketing and and

926
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: how much you can bring in the audience, the clients, and.

927
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's about the audience. Actually, it's about

928
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: the oils and the clients, how they feel.

929
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: It's not about you. It's about your service. What can

930
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: you give to them. I think I think that's that's

931
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: what the young and should know and.

932
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Most of the stuff.

933
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the influencers and that they

934
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: already know this, and they don't want to teach this.

935
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: They don't want to teach this until you have to

936
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: go to UNI, until you have to go to tape.

937
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 4: All these hours you.

938
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: Spend, all this money just to figure out that.

939
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: Don't listen to all this rubbish online about all this

940
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: get get rich fast schemes.

941
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

942
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: It's not shame on all you CON's doing that online,

943
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: but that's it's stupid. It's stupid, you know, even if

944
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: they do, even if some of them do work.

945
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys. I'm very old school.

946
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't believe in instant gratification, things that come in

947
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: the long term. It's desirable, that's what people want, you know,

948
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 2: And in the long run, it's going to feel better

949
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: for you as well. Feel you'll feel better like drug

950
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: money will not feel it will feel easy to spend

951
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: dirty money than it would like if you've worked ten

952
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: hours in the sun, or if you've stayed up five

953
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: hours until the AM's doing emails. If you work that

954
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: long to get that money, I promise you will not

955
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: put that hundred dollars on sports bet.

956
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: Ask me. I'm telling you for my own. I'm telling

957
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: you for my own.

958
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Oh maybe five dollars, but maybe I take you five

959
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 2: on a twenty leggo.

960
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: Anyways, Thank you everyone, Thank you everyone for coming coming

961
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: and tuning in to Bros and cons again. This is

962
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 4: me Ronnie j Lex and we've got more shows coming in,

963
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 4: so keep tuning on. Thank you guys for all the likes,

964
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: the shares, the comments. We actually see it all, you know,

965
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: we see it all.

966
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: We discuss it amongst ourselves and come up with different

967
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: ideas for them. Look at this Look at this guy,

968
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: Look at this guy. Yeah.

969
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 4: Anyway, thank you guys for tuning in again. Our next

970
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 4: show is going to be not too long. But make

971
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: sure you subscribe to our YouTube. We've ready reached five

972
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: hundred subscribers. I'm not sure what I inst to followers

973
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: on because the other boys are on.

974
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: That, but subscribe to our channel. Subscribe.

975
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: It's just one of those videos to this channel.

976
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm always wanted to do that. Everything.

977
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything will be in the link in the description.

978
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: If you have any questions, make sure he's the underpage

979
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 4: and we'll get.

980
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Back in the comments.

981
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: What you guys think this is just a very scratch

982
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: on the surface, Yeah, very scratch.

983
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: On the This is this is this is the very

984
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: of us.

985
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: You know, there's I think there's a lot of other

986
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: exciting things we have coming together this year as brothers.

987
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of things coming out for you. Guys.

988
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I.

989
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 4: Think I think that people wanted to know when is

990
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: there another Day Lex song coming out.

991
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Which camera's planning.

992
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: Look with With music, I got to keep that on

993
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: the on the loan now, as I promise, we'll wrap

994
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: it up after this. Right now, With music, we're not

995
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the direction we're heading at the moment

996
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: because of legal I've been advised by my legal team

997
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: that might not be the best situation for us to

998
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: push any music, whether it be drill or whether it

999
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: be nice music.

1000
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: If some of these coppers can be funny, yunny yunny.

1001
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: So well, there you go, guys. Focus on your businesses,

1002
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: focus on your companies. This is here.

1003
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully hopefully you've learned a thing or two from

1004
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: this podcast.

1005
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Here we are me and Jay Lex. We're giving you

1006
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: the ropes. We yeah, yeah, I

1007
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: Still want to dance with my crew from my twenty

1008
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: one year for me on that realerisode of Lavatooes, I

1009
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: sing like free Margod, I'll pull that coup and lose

1010
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 3: myself