1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: We have indeed been continuing to shine a light on 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: the survivor stories from Cyclone Tracy ahead of the fiftieth 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: anniversary on Christmas Day. And my next guest is a 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: beautiful Territorian who I know, who sheltered under the kitchen 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: dining table with her kids who were aged two and 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: four when the destruction of Tracy took hold. Haleima Darth 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: joins me on the line. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Good morning, Haleima. 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Good morning, honey. How are you. 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm good. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: It's lovely to have you on the show. Thank you 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: so much for joining me this morning. 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Haleima. 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about what your plans were 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: for Christmas Eve back in nineteen seventy four. 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Well, Christmas Eve, I was still running around getting little 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: bits of pieces ready for the children have gone to bed, 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: so you know, we do all these things after they've 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: gone to bed. But oh, I know about it. Eleven 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 3: o'clock the wind started ripping out and that's when maybe 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: take notice, I bet it did. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: Where were where? And so what happened next? 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Well, we're in Paul Circuit, Alaa and the back of 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: our probably looked looked over Lakeside Drive and I went 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: and looked at the glass doors, and I heard someone 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: going along Lakeside Drive with one of those speakers they 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: have at sports days, saying the side is imminent, Stay indoors. 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: And that's the first I knew of it, because I 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: didn't have the radio and I had the TV or 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: no checking to see if there was any warnings. No 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: warnings came up, so I thought, well, it can't be 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: too bad. And the David said to me, he said 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: he wanted to go to sleep, and I was keeping 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: in wait, so come and go to bed. And the 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: wind was too strong, so I went over and laid 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: on the bottom of the girl's bed, which was the 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: side where the wind was coming from. And David must 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: have felt guilty, so he said, you want to bring 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: the girl both to our room. I said, year, you. 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Were saying that on Christmas Eve. 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: You know that that you'd started to sort of hear 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: that things were, You know that it was getting a 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: bit wild outside. 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: When did you become aware? 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I suppose I know the guy was walking down the 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: street as well with one of those other big megaphones. 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: I guess you called her he was he was driving 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: down the pH driving down Lakeside Drive, just letting everybody know, 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 4: because well, i'd still it was very wild by then, 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: the wind was really whipping up by them. So so 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: that's when we bought the girls over to our room. 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: And then we got the table and put it in 53 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: try and cut it short, and the table the table 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: kept lifting up, and David held it down one side 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: and I held one hand and one hand around the girls. 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: I'd actually forgotten about the table lifting off the top 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: of us, and the covers split and ralph Our glass 58 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: doors went like Ralph's Harris's warble board. Oh my goodness, 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: it was so amazing. 60 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Soma, for our listeners, how many children do you 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: have and how what were they doing at this point 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: in time? 63 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: Well, I had two girls with Craig. My son wasn't 64 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: he wasn't born then, and I had two year old 65 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: and a four year old hanging onto them on both 66 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: of my legs, and I was singing sat a school 67 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: something to them in their ears so they wouldn't be frightened. 68 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: But my legs were shaking underneath and so uncontrollably. 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it must have been. 70 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: It must have been so incredibly frightening for you. What 71 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: was it like, you know, like you know in terms 72 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: of the what the impact that that wind was having. 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: And then when the eye of the storm came across, 74 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: did things sort of calm right down? 75 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: Or what happened next? 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: They did? They did it. It was eerie calm. It 77 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: was eerie calm. I don't know exactly how long. But 78 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: David said, this will be the eye and it'll turn 79 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: around and come the other way and maybe stronger. So 80 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: he the laundry door had fallen in, so he got 81 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: that and propped it up to try and stop a 82 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: bit of the wind from us. And it did work. 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: But the cupboards, the cupboards actually split, and I was 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: sitting right near where my back was near where the 85 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: cupboards had split, and at one stage I thought my 86 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: whole head was going to explode, and I thought, oh, 87 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 4: this must be I thought in my mind, this must 88 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 4: be like it is in the plane when they say 89 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: they get all that pressure. 90 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness. 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: And so then the rest of the rest of the 92 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: cyclone obviously passed over the house. How did the house 93 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: fare and how did you guys go in the aftermath? 94 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: Well, the house, the house all fell down except the 95 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: front door, where there was some brick wall, and the 96 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: back wall there was still a bit of brick. And 97 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 4: then when we got out, of course, it was raining 98 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 4: and we had nowhere to go, and the streets were 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: all covered in tin. So eventually we went down the 100 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 4: street to a neighbor's high house and stayed there for 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: a short while, and my brother and his friend came 102 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: out looking for us and couldn't find us, so he left. 103 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: But eventually we got into Where did we go? I 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 4: have no relection. I don't know whether we went to 105 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: my mother's house or we went to the church house, 106 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: because the church house was vacant, so we eventually got 107 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: a room in there just for thankfully. 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, and Helena, I understand earlier on the day 109 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: you'd actually been sewing. What happened to your sewing machine. 110 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: I'd left it on the other side of the house 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: where it was all blowing, and it wasn't in its case, 112 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: and it was an owner and I bought it with 113 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: some money that my dad had left me and David. 114 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: I said, oh, no, my machine there, And David said, 115 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 4: would you like to need to go and get it? 116 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: And I said yes please. But afterwards I thought, oh, 117 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: I saose doors bload, they'll cut into pieces, but they didn't. 118 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: He got back and I still have my machine work? 119 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: Are you serious? 120 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 121 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: Right? 122 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: So have you still got it? Now? 123 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: I do? I value that. 124 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: That's so incredible. That is so incredible, Helena. 125 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: What's it like for you now as as we head 126 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: into the fiftieth commemorations and we head into, you know, 127 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: to this milestone this year, you know, is it a 128 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: sad time for you or is it a time that 129 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: you you sit back and reflect? 130 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: How do you feel? 131 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: It's sad for the people that we know we lost? 132 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: And it's it's a bit eerie because I feel this 133 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: year it's a bit like the scone. Right. Every every 134 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: year they've said, oh it's just like cycling Tracy Weather, 135 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: but this year it is more like the cyclone. And 136 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: maybe it's because I'm getting old too, but you know, 137 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: you just get a bit nervous. 138 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 139 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: But you know, you say old, I think experienced, Talima. 140 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I think we've got to listen to our experience. 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Territorious. 142 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: I didn't have a radio, yeah, and I didn't have 143 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: a torture. I had a lantern, but you did not 144 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: need it because the lightning was so intense and so continuous. 145 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: You did not need, and you didn't need to see 146 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: what was going on. Yeah, the noise was enough. 147 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, Healima before I let you go. 148 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like the town really everybody rallied 149 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: together as well at that time and supported each other. 150 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Is that what it felt like when you were living 151 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: in Darwin? 152 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely fantastic. It was so wonderful, and you know, a 153 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: lot of the people left. I did get a house 154 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: in Bachelor. I was very lucky because I didn't want 155 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: to keep the girls here, but I didn't want to 156 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: I didn't want to leave either. But everyone was so 157 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: grateful for being alive and being looked after, and it 158 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: was it was just really wonderful. You know, everyone was 159 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: so happy to see each other and they all thank 160 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 4: the Lord for looking after them. They really did. Yeah, 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: because you know there was a higher power that looked 162 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: after us. 163 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, more. 164 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 4: People did with the devastation. 165 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look back, I mean, for me, looking 166 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: at photos and one of our one of our other beautiful, 167 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: beautiful cyclone Tracy survivors who joined us a little earlier 168 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: in the week Freedom had brought in a number of 169 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: photos and shown me, you know, the devastation and and 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: you're really. It does make you think we, you know, 171 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: we were very lucky not to lose more time. 172 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: Territorious. 173 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: Extremely When I got out from underneath the table, David said, 174 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: you're not going to believe what you see. I could 175 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: see the whole of Rapid Creek and it looked like 176 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: it'd been a bomb blast, and all it was was 177 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: stumps everywhere, and no green leaves on any trees. 178 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: No, just all gone. 179 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: It's all gone. Someone as someone told me that. A 180 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: man said there was lots of green leaves, and I thought, ah, 181 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: but he said on the wall, yeah. 182 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, not on the trees anymore. 183 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Well, Helena, I really appreciate you having a chat with 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: me this morning. I am going to have to leave 185 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: it there. We've got a full deck of Cyclone Tracy 186 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: survivors to catch up with today. 187 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: Thank you so. 188 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: Much, Lovely, have a wonderful day. 189 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: You two. Thank you. 190 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: If I don't see you before Christmas, have a lovely Christmas. 191 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: Look after yourself. 192 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: You two, don't thank you