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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gam Nation. Well, our next guest may

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Speaker 1: have unlocked the secrets to the universe and human experience.

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Speaker 1: So interesting. He's the man behind the Resilience Project, which

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Speaker 1: has seeing him work with the NRL, the Australian Cricket team,

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Speaker 1: the Australian Women's cricket team, and soccer teams, the Jill Arrouz,

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Speaker 1: the AFL. It's about learning positive mental health strategies to

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Speaker 1: become happier and more resilient and don't we need that.

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Speaker 1: His name is Hugh kylen Berg and he joins us. Now,

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Speaker 1: hello you you one of you guys?

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Speaker 2: How are you going on? Just before we kick off this?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm doing this in the car. I've got

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Speaker 2: three kids under the age of six, and I just

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Speaker 2: I thought it was inside, but I've this is like

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Speaker 2: a scene from Jurassic Park at the moment all through

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Speaker 2: them try to get in.

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Speaker 1: So this resilience is going to be tested any time.

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Speaker 1: Since you know you, I'm going to ask a question,

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Speaker 1: are we less resilient now than we used to be?

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Speaker 2: Oh? What a great question. I don't know. I feel like,

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I know has changed. I feel

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Speaker 2: like a lot of people now feel like when I'm

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Speaker 2: doing this talks for over a decade, and I'm used

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Speaker 2: to people taking notes in certain parts throughout my talks,

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Speaker 2: but I feel now post COVID, well, post the lockdowns anyway,

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Speaker 2: I feel like people take notes the whole time and

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Speaker 2: they're going hangop sav again. But again, like I feel

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Speaker 2: like we're all desperate for information on how we can

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Speaker 2: cope better in a challenging time. So I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of us didn't really have a reference point. Well,

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Speaker 2: someone is doing a reference point for what really challenging time.

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Speaker 2: Looks like we all have one now, and I think

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Speaker 2: that sort of all got us to sort of stop

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Speaker 2: and try and take note of what we can do better.

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Speaker 1: Well, how do you practically teach someone resilience? How do

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Speaker 1: you go about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's been my job for quite a

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Speaker 2: while now. It's I mean, the best research I've ever

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Speaker 2: called Barbara Prediction in New York, and she discovered that

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Speaker 2: there was a really that the most common characteristic, sorry,

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Speaker 2: the most common personality character characteristic amongst resilient people. There

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Speaker 2: was one thing about had in common and it was

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Speaker 2: positive or positive emotion, the ability to experience positive emotion.

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Speaker 2: So that's not the same. When something goes wrong, we

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Speaker 2: kind of bury our head in the sands and pretend

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Speaker 2: it's not having It's just that we still look for

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Speaker 2: reasons to smile, we still look for ends to life,

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Speaker 2: and we still involve ourselves and activities that we know

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Speaker 2: will bring us joy. So, for example, at the Resilience Project,

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Speaker 2: we try and tach three things gratitude, empathy, and mindless

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Speaker 2: because you can practice those three things, and when you

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Speaker 2: practice those three things, what happens is you cultivate positive

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Speaker 2: emotion and that makes you more resilient.

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Speaker 1: So I get gratitude, I get empathy. What is mindfulness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of a buzzword, and I think

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Speaker 2: some people find it annoying, So I'll try and explain

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Speaker 2: it in a non annoying way for you, for you both.

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Speaker 2: So manfulness is the ability For me, it's just I mean,

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Speaker 2: everyone's got their own definition of it, but for me,

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Speaker 2: it's the ability to just be wherever you are. And

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Speaker 2: we're so bad at that. This are these days, we're

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Speaker 2: constantly being pulled in a million different directions and even

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Speaker 2: if we're with someone a lot of the time they're

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Speaker 2: not really there. You know, Evenmber with our kids our

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Speaker 2: to who would that be? What would that be about?

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Speaker 2: I think I'll checking it a companies mail. Check it out,

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Speaker 2: just check it out quickly, It'll be fine. T only

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Speaker 2: three seconds to check it, just so my fin's ability

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Speaker 2: to just be wherever you are. Yeah, it's a wively present.

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Speaker 1: Have you found tangible results? If you're working with the

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Speaker 2: I do love all the sports stuff. I'd ever have

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Speaker 2: to be honest, my biggest passion is school kids we

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Speaker 2: what's this program we're going to check if this actually works,

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Speaker 2: no increasing anxiety. In fact, in twenty twenty feelings of

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Speaker 2: I just it's such an easy thing to do. The

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Speaker 2: struggle with that so much in Australia. We all spend

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Speaker 2: about We all worry about things. You know, if I

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Speaker 2: had a better car, if I had that housel this,

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Speaker 2: if I got that promotion, then I feel happy. That's

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Speaker 2: not how happiness works. It comes from paying attention to

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Speaker 2: what you already have.

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Speaker 1: Well, you amazing, and you've got a new Amazon special.

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Speaker 1: G E m or Jim, how do we pronounce that.

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Speaker 2: Hugh, Well it's Jim. It's definitely Jim. But my worry

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Speaker 2: is the people who go because it says Hugh van

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Speaker 2: kylan Berg Jim. I'm worried people think I'm saying armor Jem.

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Speaker 1: Hugh, you are our Jim, Hugh van Cartlenburg, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining.

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Speaker 2: Us, very kind.

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Speaker 1: Check out the special streaming on Prime Video now.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Hugh, Thank you guys, Thanks so much