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Speaker 1: most of us have spent many nights with our next guest.

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Speaker 2: She's one of Australia's most trusted and respected faces on

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Speaker 3: Here she is now you think, gee, I'm getting old, Yeah, yourself,

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Speaker 2: Sandra Sally is celebrating her thirtieth milestone this year with

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Speaker 2: thrilled to have her in. Hello Sandra, I love you too,

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Speaker 4: Raight in and you were so good. Ryan Gallagher was

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Speaker 4: supposed to be from Celebrity Get me out of here right,

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Speaker 4: He was supposed to be on now but we can't

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Speaker 3: Gone the last fallback option.

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Speaker 4: Sandra Sally, You've literally come from your home and run

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Speaker 1: Oh look at last smoke and mirrors in our game,

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Speaker 2: Course I'd be here thirty years is extraordinary. I didn't

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Speaker 4: Like you could never read the news. You began to

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Speaker 2: That I know. But we turned to you because we

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Speaker 2: That's why we turned to you too. That's a lot

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Speaker 4: And you look at your career thirty years. We've got

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Speaker 3: Good evening. First, this a major embarrassment for the federal government.

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Speaker 1: It was the center of an emergency on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: I'm sadra s.

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Speaker 1: Leadership tensions in the Liberal Party deepened today with an

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the were professional from the minute you started,

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Speaker 2: Brenson Jones. Last week we celebrated his thirty years in radiocre.

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Speaker 2: Here's Brendan from thirty years ago. Sandra, you too, therefrom.

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Speaker 4: The Joshua Tree album without with, with with or without you. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: A bit of a tangle has changed thirty.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, as opposed to, you kindly didn't play a

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Speaker 3: We couldn't find.

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Speaker 4: Nothing, would Sully? Thy name Sandra. You'll catch Sandra tonight

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Speaker 4: five o'clock on Channel ten News. First Sandra Sully, Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, thanks for having me join the and

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Speaker 1: Amanda in Good Morning one point seven Tell You Film