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Speaker 1: This is the pickup, Hi, guys, it's the pickup with
Speaker 1: Britt Hockley and Laura Ben.
Speaker 4: How are we feeling? It's hump days?
Speaker 5: Mate?
Speaker 1: Today was It was a slow start, That's for sure,
Speaker 1: But now I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm here. Put it that way.
Speaker 4: Why was it a slow start?
Speaker 5: I woke up?
Speaker 1: Kids just can just be so irrational and like, I
Speaker 1: feel like anytime I complain about mine, I need to
Speaker 1: preface it with how much I love being a mom.
Speaker 4: I do, that's.
Speaker 3: Every mom, but some parent has to say, like before I.
Speaker 1: Have my complaint, I love my children you just like
Speaker 1: some days are harder than others, and some some days
Speaker 1: more like fulfilling with love than others. And this morning
Speaker 1: was not one of those days. I woke up to Lola.
Speaker 1: She's my four year old. She was crying in bed,
Speaker 1: and I went in and she's been a bit six
Speaker 1: so I was like, what's wrong, Sweedie, and that crying
Speaker 1: stemmed for twenty minutes, where she, on repeat, said I
Speaker 1: want to be awake, but I'm tired, and that went
Speaker 1: over and over and over and she just couldn't She
Speaker 1: physically couldn't get out of bed.
Speaker 5: Because she just I want to be awake.
Speaker 1: I want to be And I was like, Babe, you
Speaker 1: are yelling at me and you're hitting me. That would
Speaker 1: indicate that you were awake.
Speaker 5: You are well, You are well and truly awake.
Speaker 4: We were talking about this a bit earlier, but I.
Speaker 3: Just think it's so funny when it transitions from everything
Speaker 3: that you hate as a kid you really love as
Speaker 3: an adult.
Speaker 4: Like I just want to nap. I want to sleep.
Speaker 3: I want to be relaxed, horizontal, someone feed me, seeing
Speaker 3: me nursery rhyme, tickle my head and put me to bed.
Speaker 4: That's like my dream.
Speaker 5: I was like, baby, you can stay in bed for
Speaker 5: a little while and rest. I don't want to rest.
Speaker 5: I wish i'd gotten the audio of it.
Speaker 1: It was so irrational and unreasonable, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta go to work.
Speaker 5: This is Dad's problem.
Speaker 2: Dad.
Speaker 3: Hey, if you guys did miss it earlier this week
Speaker 3: I get married.
Speaker 4: I am married.
Speaker 3: I am a missus secret officially I will stay Missus Hockley.
Speaker 4: But Ben my husband, he's in Australia. He came on
Speaker 4: the show on Monday.
Speaker 3: But because some of you lucky ducks had a public holiday,
Speaker 3: so you weren't in the car, you weren't at work,
Speaker 3: we had a bunch of people slidding too, the DM
Speaker 3: saying they missed the chat and they wanted to hear
Speaker 3: it again. So we are going to replace some of
Speaker 3: that after the break, and it was very funny. We
Speaker 3: did definitely have a few mishaps on the day of
Speaker 3: the wedding.
Speaker 4: I mean when I'm blaming Ben basically, to.
Speaker 1: Be fair, the only person that you can be like
Speaker 1: thankful for that that wedding actually came together.
Speaker 5: It's to yourself and.
Speaker 1: My wedding planner, and you know, and Ben showed up
Speaker 1: and he did his part by saying I.
Speaker 5: Do so well done.
Speaker 4: You know, we barely showed up in time. No, there's
Speaker 4: a lot going on anyway. I love your band. After
Speaker 4: the break, will you hear all about it.
Speaker 5: Ben, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, good to see you again.
Speaker 4: How do you feel as a husband.
Speaker 5: Let's really let's get into the highlights. How are you
Speaker 5: feeling as a husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Same, really but we had incredible time, so really really happy,
Speaker 6: a little bit tired.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you know what I do want to know? Ben?
Speaker 5: I heard that you showed up to.
Speaker 1: Your own wedding without any pants to wear. It to
Speaker 1: said wedding. You had a year to organize a suit
Speaker 1: and it was the one thing that brit was constantly
Speaker 1: fearful about, and come said wedding day, somebody didn't have pants.
Speaker 4: Before I let him speak, Ben, I just want to
Speaker 4: set it up.
Speaker 3: Not only did he have a year, he left it
Speaker 3: until the last week before the wedding and I had
Speaker 3: to still organize it for him.
Speaker 4: So his job was just to get dressed. So talk
Speaker 4: to us about how that went.
Speaker 6: Ben, Yes, my pants shrunk, which is not ideal when
Speaker 6: your legs are the size of my legs, but.
Speaker 2: It was all fine. Nobody noticed.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure how you got this information because it
Speaker 6: was very secrets with my groomsmen.
Speaker 2: But yes, there were some safety pins in my pants.
Speaker 6: But it's all fine, nobody got stung. Nobody knows, just except.
Speaker 2: For you, Laura.
Speaker 4: We want to know, and we need to set this up.
Speaker 4: You can't just say my pants trunk.
Speaker 5: It's not like Doctor Doolittle.
Speaker 4: Or whatever that show was, I honey, I shrunk the kids.
Speaker 5: Sorry, really different shows that.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me set this up.
Speaker 3: Ben decided to wear his wedding suit the week before
Speaker 3: to someone else's wedding and.
Speaker 6: I said, baby, efficient, Swiss efficiency.
Speaker 3: I said, baby, let's maybe like save the wedding suit
Speaker 3: for the big day and get you a different suit.
Speaker 5: No, Ben, just onto road test and I like that.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just fine,
Speaker 3: it's Fine's fine anyway.
Speaker 4: He gets it dirty. We get to BALI.
Speaker 3: I said, you have to dry clean this suit three
Speaker 3: days in advance, because that's how long it takes. Do
Speaker 3: not forget to give it to the hotel and send
Speaker 3: it off, babe, please, I've got this. So two days
Speaker 3: before the wedding, I say, hey, did you dry clean
Speaker 3: the suit? He's like, I forgot. He goes to try
Speaker 3: and do it and he's like, babe, problem. They say
Speaker 3: it's going to take three days. I said, I know, Ben.
Speaker 3: The weddings in two days, so Ben starts splashing money around.
Speaker 3: Someone eventually says, I'll do it. He gets the suit
Speaker 3: back an hour before we're supposed to walk down. He
Speaker 3: can't get it on because it's like it's like jeggings.
Speaker 1: Did you check it, like when it came back from
Speaker 1: the Balinese dry cleaner?
Speaker 5: Did you think I might look at this?
Speaker 6: I had my shirt cleaned as well, but it's my
Speaker 6: backup shirt, and I thought, Okay, everything's in order, brilliant,
Speaker 6: done it, but it's going to be happy super And
Speaker 6: once I actually looked at them put them on, I
Speaker 6: was like, they're not my pants.
Speaker 2: They're too small.
Speaker 5: They didn't fit.
Speaker 6: They didn't fit, so yeah, I had to stretch them
Speaker 6: out a little bit and add emergency length.
Speaker 4: It's like so like add length to the bottom.
Speaker 6: Twenty minutes before we walked down the aist, I had
Speaker 6: the tailor come in.
Speaker 2: So it's all done.
Speaker 6: We're all done at about five centimeters added. And I
Speaker 6: think the wedding planner came to measure my waist and
Speaker 6: my jeans to buy a backup.
Speaker 3: Pants pants, so he couldn't get the zipper up either,
Speaker 3: So I did.
Speaker 5: I did see. I mean, I had a pretty front
Speaker 5: row seat.
Speaker 2: Where are you looking?
Speaker 1: And I see that your pants were safety pin together
Speaker 1: at the fire you couldn't tell that they were safety
Speaker 1: pin but the zipper wasn't zippering. At that point, I
Speaker 1: was like, something's going on.
Speaker 2: Zipper was stuck and there was no way to unstuck them.
Speaker 3: So his one job of just putting the pants on
Speaker 3: somehow managed to end up with you having no pants
Speaker 3: that fit their skin tight, they're done up with safety pins.
Speaker 2: It was you that was authentically me.
Speaker 4: You really kick started your responsibilities.
Speaker 1: You did make it, and you did look amazing. Actually, Ben,
Speaker 1: you looked amazing Britney. You also looked amazing. Very important.
Speaker 1: I know that how much effort went into what you
Speaker 1: were wearing.
Speaker 5: Ben. Not only was it the.
Speaker 1: Zipper and the pants, but also five days beforehand we
Speaker 1: discovered that your ring didn't fit you either, which had
Speaker 1: to be completely remade from scratch in five days.
Speaker 5: So like I love with all the time.
Speaker 1: That you had between you guys to get this organized, Ben,
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 4: The week it really were.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that any surprise? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, But to be fair and it's absolutely no surprise.
Speaker 1: The wedding was incredible. It was like it was out
Speaker 1: of a movie or a fairy tale. It was really
Speaker 1: the most beautiful wedding that I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: I would can't mind in that as well.
Speaker 1: It was stunning at your wedding, it was amazing.
Speaker 4: It was like I say, went off without a hitch.
Speaker 4: There were hitches. Did our photographer cancel five days before?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Did our ring not work? We wasted it? Yes? Did
Speaker 4: you have pants?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Did our cake turn up like something we didn't order?
Speaker 3: And it was burnt little crispy breakfast. Yes, there were
Speaker 3: things that happened. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I married the love of my life with or without pants.
Speaker 3: I was taking you anyway, Ben, So it was spectacular.
Speaker 4: Now, Britt, you.
Speaker 1: Might remember a few weeks back we were speaking about
Speaker 1: there's kind of been this real change and shift in
Speaker 1: perceptions around letting your kids sleep over at people's houses.
Speaker 1: And there's a debate that's been happening online as to whether, firstly,
Speaker 1: what is the right age, and as to whether it's
Speaker 1: the right thing for your kids' safety to let them
Speaker 1: sleep over at friends' houses. And it's an interesting one
Speaker 1: because we talked about it. It blew up on socials.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it as a
Speaker 1: mum to two little girls, because I have seen some
Speaker 1: truly harrowing stories that have been shared on social media
Speaker 1: about horrible things that have happened on sleepovers. But I
Speaker 1: also know that it's kind of like a rite of
Speaker 1: passage for kids, and we all did it as kids
Speaker 1: and it's some of the best memories, even though you
Speaker 1: come back tired and no one slept, and like you know,
Speaker 1: also has a downside.
Speaker 3: You know what, I the only thing I'll quickly had
Speaker 3: to this before because I know it's serious.
Speaker 4: But my best friend reminded me on the weekend.
Speaker 3: We've been best friends for thirty years and we used
Speaker 3: to say each other's house all the time.
Speaker 4: She's like, remember how every time.
Speaker 3: We'd have a sleepover, you'd only come if you liked
Speaker 3: what we had for dinner, Like I used to say eating.
Speaker 4: She's like, want to save tonight and I was like,
Speaker 4: what's for dinner? I was like eight? She told me
Speaker 4: if I did like it, I wouldn't go.
Speaker 1: I like that you had strong boundaries even as an
Speaker 1: eight year old, did I knew what I wanted well?
Speaker 5: Look, it really did blow up on socials.
Speaker 1: So many people were discussing the fore and against it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of families who are kind of taking
Speaker 1: the rout now of not letting their kids go to sleepovers.
Speaker 5: But then there's also.
Speaker 1: People who think that maybe we're wrapping our kids too
Speaker 1: much cotton wool. Someone who did slide into our DMS
Speaker 1: is Genevieve Mua now Jen Is. She's an Obstretix social
Speaker 1: worker and she also has the business connected parenting, and
Speaker 1: it was really nice to chat to someone who actually
Speaker 1: has insight into this. Not only does she have four
Speaker 1: boys herself, but she's helped a lot of parents across
Speaker 1: the country manage what is a great way of finding
Speaker 1: a middle ground in this, Jen, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: Guys, Jen, I'm assuming the middle ground isn't asking what
Speaker 3: they've got for dinner.
Speaker 7: I love that though, that is brilliant. I'm asking that next,
Speaker 7: so I get asked on the sleepover for sure?
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is not something that parents
Speaker 1: should be particularly concerned about or.
Speaker 5: Do you feel as though.
Speaker 1: That maybe there has been I guess a bit of
Speaker 1: fear mungering happening online and on social media at the
Speaker 1: moment around this whole sleepover debate.
Speaker 7: I think it's hard to be a parent in general.
Speaker 7: These days. We have so much information about what's good
Speaker 7: for kids and what is a risk for kids. Yeah,
Speaker 7: from everything from how we should be seed in them,
Speaker 7: how we keep them safe, how we educate them. There's
Speaker 7: so much pressure. One of the things that I think
Speaker 7: is a good thing, right is there's been a massive
Speaker 7: social change in our understanding of what the risk to
Speaker 7: kids are. And we now know that when it comes
Speaker 7: to those risks or when things happen to kids that
Speaker 7: we would like to protect them from, ninety percent of
Speaker 7: the time that happens at the hands of someone we
Speaker 7: know and trust. Now that's why the sleepover thing has
Speaker 7: become an issue. Now think back to the old days
Speaker 7: where we thought the risk was strangers and that's what
Speaker 7: we want kids about, and we now know how we
Speaker 7: had that wrong. So I love that parents have access
Speaker 7: to the right information now about how to protect their kids.
Speaker 7: You know, we could say that's no sleepovers ever, but
Speaker 7: we let our kids go online where so many similar
Speaker 7: tricky things can happen online. Right, So what we really
Speaker 7: want to do is start to have a sense of well,
Speaker 7: who is my kid? Where are they going? So how
Speaker 7: well do I know that family? In terms of my kids,
Speaker 7: I'm looking for certain levels of skill. Is my child
Speaker 7: at an age where they absolutely know they could come
Speaker 7: to me if they felt uncomfortable they got asked to
Speaker 7: go home? Could they communicate that if they needed to?
Speaker 7: If my child has those skills, if I have someone
Speaker 7: in my life where I really trust and I've known
Speaker 7: them for a while, then that's a really different thing
Speaker 7: than if they don't have those skills.
Speaker 1: But I guess it's not particularly an age thing then
Speaker 1: is it? Because kids all develop a different ages and phases.
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I would say that some kids have those communication skills
Speaker 1: earlier than others.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And with my four boys, there was one that
Speaker 7: I was a lot later in letting him go for
Speaker 7: his first sleepover simply because he actually had a delay
Speaker 7: with his speech. He was not a kid that would
Speaker 7: speak up. He was really kind of quiet by nature,
Speaker 7: really struggled to put his hand up in class and
Speaker 7: say what he needed. I wasn't going to send him
Speaker 7: off because he'd never be able to speak up. So
Speaker 7: it's kind of about looking at who we've got, but
Speaker 7: also who we've got in our lives, and I want
Speaker 7: to kind of acknowledge they'd be single parents that do
Speaker 7: not have an option if they're doing shipwork, then to
Speaker 7: have sometimes the village step in and support them. We
Speaker 7: might have great relatives and grandparents, we might have really
Speaker 7: close family friends that we've known and we intimately know
Speaker 7: really well. So I think it's also about every situation
Speaker 7: is different, but it's sort of knowing who we've got.
Speaker 7: But the final thing that we can all do from
Speaker 7: a really young age, and that is really talk openly
Speaker 7: and honestly to your kids about a couple of key things.
Speaker 7: One is you know the normal names of body parts
Speaker 7: and kind of making sure we have open and honest
Speaker 7: conversations about those things. Teaching our kids things like you
Speaker 7: don't have to hug your uncle if you don't want to,
Speaker 7: you can give them a halfh five. So that's body
Speaker 7: autonomy and having a sense of that stuff from a
Speaker 7: really young age. And the final thing, and I think
Speaker 7: this matters more than anything else, there is nothing you
Speaker 7: could ever do or say that would make me love
Speaker 7: you less. There's nothing you can't tell me. I will
Speaker 7: always believe you, and that one you have to keep
Speaker 7: saying from the beginning all the way through. You know,
Speaker 7: at sixteen, we're still saying the same thing. You're going
Speaker 7: out tonight. There is nothing that could happen or that
Speaker 7: you could do where you can't call me and I
Speaker 7: wouldn't be there on your side to help you.
Speaker 1: Jen out of curiosity, how old are your kids when
Speaker 1: you let them sleep over at people's houses?
Speaker 7: So look really different ages depending on the child. But
Speaker 7: like I think if we were to say like a
Speaker 7: good age in general, I think it's probably somewhere upwards
Speaker 7: of maybe eight ish, Like it's somewhere around there that
Speaker 7: I think, depending on the child. And again, kids are
Speaker 7: going to be so different. For one of my kids,
Speaker 7: he was that little bit older. He just wasn't ready.
Speaker 7: And for some kids that might be younger, it might
Speaker 7: be from six that you have a good friend and
Speaker 7: there's a really great thing going on. I know there's
Speaker 7: been some guidelines put out by the government where they're
Speaker 7: saying from about eleven. I think that's quite old myself,
Speaker 7: because most kids will go on their first school camp
Speaker 7: at around eleven, and I kind of think some experience
Speaker 7: in a way that is safe. It's probably good for kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you don't think about that too. I
Speaker 1: remember going on school camp lucky. My mom never really
Speaker 1: let us stay at people's houses, but they always say
Speaker 1: to ours, so I was kind of used to the
Speaker 1: sleepover environment.
Speaker 3: Got ours everywhere I did was shipping me out.
Speaker 1: I didn't know your mum also had four kids, and
Speaker 1: she was like, just get one of them out of
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 4: That kids, and they were all working. They were like,
Speaker 4: find a friend today, somewhere else.
Speaker 5: Thanking so much, Jen, thanks for joining the show.
Speaker 7: Absolute pleasure.
Speaker 3: Guys, we Laura are in a bit of a wedding
Speaker 3: fever at the moment.
Speaker 4: I promise it will die down, but.
Speaker 5: I don't think it will. It's been over a year now, but.
Speaker 3: For me, I only got married a week ago, so,
Speaker 3: like my algorithm online is still very heavy wedding related.
Speaker 3: Everything about weddings and this is not science, but they're
Speaker 3: going to found a new indicator of divorce from a wedding.
Speaker 3: So if you go to a wedding, you might have
Speaker 3: seen like this old school tradition where people smash the
Speaker 3: cake into the bride's face, like the groom they cut
Speaker 3: the cake it's cute photos videos, and then the groom
Speaker 3: picks up a chunk of cake and smash it in
Speaker 3: the bride's face.
Speaker 1: I've seen this trending on socials at the moment because
Speaker 1: I've definitely been to a wedding where both the bride
Speaker 1: and groom did it to each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was cute.
Speaker 1: It was cute they did it, they were wanting to
Speaker 1: do it to each other. They were both consenting. There's
Speaker 1: been a few that have gone and circulated around socials
Speaker 1: at the moment where like the man grabs the back
Speaker 1: of the his bride's head and shoves a whole face
Speaker 1: Like imagine sitting there getting your hair, makeup and everything
Speaker 1: done for hours, only to have your entire head dumped
Speaker 1: into a three der cake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you see all the ones that are
Speaker 3: like not just not consenting, but the ones that end
Speaker 3: in injury.
Speaker 4: And that's actually the one I'm going to talk about today.
Speaker 3: There's one particularly viral real that's going There's a thread
Speaker 3: on Reddit, but a man smashes the cake into his
Speaker 3: bride's face, but with a fork, like it was like
Speaker 3: he'd obviously scooped it up on a fork, puts it
Speaker 3: into her face and the fork comes through and cuts
Speaker 3: her lip like through.
Speaker 4: The cake, so all of a sudden she bleeding. She's
Speaker 4: it's a whole thing.
Speaker 5: Stabbed it with a form.
Speaker 4: You'll literally stabbed your wife.
Speaker 3: With a fork. But there are other ones too, like
Speaker 3: a lot of cakes. And this is something that I
Speaker 3: learned only just getting married. You know, all these huge,
Speaker 3: big teared cakes. I always thought they were all cake,
Speaker 3: but they're not. They're fake. A lot of them are
Speaker 3: just made from cardboard or some other material. They're covered
Speaker 3: in icing just to build them up and then maybe
Speaker 3: the top layer's got something. But a lot of them
Speaker 3: also have to use things like toothpicks and things to
Speaker 3: keep the la together.
Speaker 1: I know, when you think about it, it's actually so
Speaker 1: sohns that is, but it's also like really frightening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so there have been incidences where people have
Speaker 3: like gone to smash someone's face into the cake and
Speaker 3: like had toothpicks stuck in their face, in their skin,
Speaker 3: and like it's absolutely horrific.
Speaker 4: But I had said this to Ben, my husband. Now,
Speaker 4: I said, just.
Speaker 3: To be clear, like I know we don't even need
Speaker 3: to say this, but like let's not do any cake smashing.
Speaker 3: If you saw our cake, they accidentally sent the wrong cake,
Speaker 3: you couldn't have smashed it anyway.
Speaker 4: It looks like a pizza.
Speaker 3: We would have cut our face with a pizza cr
Speaker 3: so like there was definitely no cake smashing. But I
Speaker 3: reckon if I had said to my husband, no cake smashing,
Speaker 3: and then he thought it was funny enough to do it,
Speaker 3: I reckon, that is a ticket to divorce quick smart.
Speaker 1: I mean there was a discussion around this as in like,
Speaker 1: why is this an indicator of divorce? And I don't
Speaker 1: think it's the cake smashing that is the indicator of divorce.
Speaker 1: I think it's the lack of care, betrayal how your
Speaker 1: partner feels.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think if your wife or bride doesn't want their
Speaker 1: face smashed into a cake, which I would put money
Speaker 1: on the fact that ninety nine point nine percent them don't.
Speaker 3: Unless it is the very last thing.
Speaker 1: Like, no one, no one has gotten their hair and
Speaker 1: makeup done to have their face smash into a cake
Speaker 1: with that sort of force. If you do it, it's
Speaker 1: a complete disregard for the way that they feel. And
Speaker 1: I think that this is just like the tip of
Speaker 1: the iceberg, right it's just a little example. I'm very
Speaker 1: sure that those examples would exist in other ways in
Speaker 1: which the relationship plays out, and so yes, it may
Speaker 1: be like you know, I was reading this as well,
Speaker 1: and it was saying, this guy, he's been to four
Speaker 1: weddings now where it's happened, and those four weddings have
Speaker 1: all ended in divorce. And I would say, and probably
Speaker 1: pertains to bigger problems in that relationship where the groom
Speaker 1: has zero or very little respect for their partner.
Speaker 3: I'm also calling it if you're listening to this right
Speaker 3: now and you're getting married and you're thinking.
Speaker 4: About it, and it's done, the cake smash is.
Speaker 3: Done, it is interesting. I did have a little Google
Speaker 3: on where it came from.
Speaker 5: Grecel Is on the cat you mean produce a Grace
Speaker 5: had a Google.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Grace is on the case.
Speaker 3: Google. It gave it to me, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: pretend I googled it.
Speaker 5: You did, but I was like, Bridge, You've never done
Speaker 5: that much research for this show.
Speaker 3: A lot of googling, So if you wanted to know
Speaker 3: where it originated from, it came from ancient Rome, where
Speaker 3: the bride would have like a barley cake crumbled over
Speaker 3: their head and delicately like crumble, crumble, crumble, cute cute
Speaker 3: Yu love that like apple crumble, And it was supposed
Speaker 3: to signify the promise of fertility and male dominance.
Speaker 5: Loll it still does.
Speaker 1: That's the problem is, like it's rooted in this deep
Speaker 1: seated tradition, and the tradition was that it showed male dominance.
Speaker 1: If a guy's grabbing you by the back of the
Speaker 1: head and smashing your face into a cake, guess what
Speaker 1: it still shows male dominance, I would argue. If not,
Speaker 1: the tradition's just gotten worse. Hasn't gotten any better unless
Speaker 1: you're both mutually cutely wiping a bit of butter cream
Speaker 1: on each other like it's raw, like.
Speaker 3: An olive, like my cake an olive or some fetta
Speaker 3: or some crusts.
Speaker 4: Because I did get the wrong cake.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a pizza protrudo on each other's nace.
Speaker 4: You might have missed that. But I did get a
Speaker 4: pizza sent to me instead.
Speaker 5: Of a cake.
Speaker 4: That's for another day.
Speaker 5: OHI guys, that is it.