1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini Guys. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: How are so Will? 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 3: Unfortunately you were unable to attend the Jamie Oliver interview. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I had. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: I had a mental health day. Yeah, so we tried 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: to move that around. 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 4: I couldn't do. 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 3: That's while we went one on one with World Famer 9 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: chef Jamie Oliver. And this is the whole the whole chat. 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 5: Ye. 11 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: You know, we for one of better where we polished 12 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: it to the one that went on air, and even 13 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: that was a bit sloppy. 14 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: So you're getting all all the slop here. 15 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Which includes the moment where the zoom actually drops out. Yes, 16 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: and we've left in the audio of the entire team 17 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: panicking about the fact that we just cut off Jamie 18 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: Oliver at quite an integral moment. 19 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 20 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my favorite part of the interview. 21 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 5: A lot of people we've been on zoom Zoom service, 22 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 5: Well that's because of me. Joel, the button press of 23 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 5: the show sometimes organizes these zoom chats and I. 24 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: Don't want to pay the monthly fee because it's free. 25 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: It's free. Unfortunately, fine, when you're talking to your parents. 26 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 5: What everyone will understand is as a timer that ticks 27 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 5: down for all those people that are also on free subscriptions, 28 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 5: and Jamie had a lot of interviews Woods, so we 29 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 5: were here waiting. 30 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: Yes, he came on. We talked to his publicist for 31 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: a bit. We did, had a lovely chat with his 32 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: publishers and. 33 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 5: What you're here? 34 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: He told me. 35 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 3: He told me a few things that I wasn't allowed 36 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: to do, and I was like, ok get on the 37 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: many questions left. 38 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a few things that we went like, 39 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: that's okay, that's very normal. 40 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: Body wipe out. 41 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: No, not him to talk about Jamies Peniers one. 42 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: We talked about Jamies Peeners a lot and you guys 43 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: will hear that. 44 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: So I enjoy the extended chat with Jamie Oliver. 45 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: The last time we had our next guest on, he 46 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: was recounting the time he saw wood Is Chippo art 47 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and tried to give him some advice on how to 48 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: solve his ibs. Unfortunately, since then one hasn't improved and 49 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: the others still there. 50 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: But we'll let you. 51 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: Make your own mind up on which ones which. To 52 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know why he's gone back, because 53 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: he's got a new book out here to tell. 54 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 3: Us all about it. 55 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: It's the chef you as to watch. 56 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't cook his own schipper arter, it's the naked 57 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: chef himself. 58 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Jemmy Oliver. 59 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: Oh, hello mate, how's it going. 60 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: I'm really good man? 61 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: How are you? Yeah? Good? Good? Are you? Where are 62 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: you Melbourne? Yeah you're Melbourne? 63 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: Ain't you Melbourne? 64 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, that's right, you're not You're not lockdown. 65 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: No, we're back in lockdown actually yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, that's 66 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: all right. That Yeah, it's a bit tough in Melbourne 67 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 3: and sort of work. 68 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: Brother. 69 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm lucky. 70 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: I'm super and I can I can see your cute 71 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: mate in the background in the reflection, Yeah, I can 72 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: see him holding two headphones. Yeah, that's my cute mate. 73 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: He's adorable, isn't he. 74 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing wrong with him. 75 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: Absolutely, look at the beard on him. I have a name, 76 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, he's Joel. 77 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: And just just so you know, Jamie will my counterpart. 78 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: He's actually having a mental health day. 79 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: So Joel might actually be firing in a few questions 80 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: as well, and then we might just try and get 81 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: Wilder put audio over those questions. 82 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: So is Joel fresh meat in the reflection? Is that 83 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: is that who Joel is. Yeah, yeah, fresh, that was 84 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: your formal introduction to Joel. 85 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 86 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well technically you sort of led me there 87 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: and then I sort of jumped on what you were doing. 88 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his will bonded, no doubt, no doubt. 89 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: All right, uh, all right, Matt, Yeah we're recording. 90 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Good all right, mate, Jamie, thank you so much for 91 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: joining us. Congratulations on recipe book number twenty five. My 92 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: first question, are you ever concerned that you'll just get 93 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: to the point where you've cooked everything? 94 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: I guess in the background, but it's I've never run 95 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: out of recipes, right, And like as times moved on, 96 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: as I've kind of changed and traveled, every I wright 97 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: has quite a different promise. Yeah, yeah, and I think 98 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: I think, I think when you write a good book, 99 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: there's lots of things that matter, but one of the 100 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: things is like you've got to be really clear about 101 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: what it is that it's doing. Yeah. Yeah, but because 102 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: not every person buys every book, that some resonate with 103 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: some people, and sure some resonate with others. So yeah, 104 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: I've never run out yet. But now you've mentioned it, 105 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: you kind of put a little bit of paranoia in my. 106 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: In my mind, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 107 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: This will always be remembered as the moment that Jamiel 108 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: havever lost his inspiration. 109 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 4: Actually, I mean, yeah, just just not being with you. Actually, 110 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: I mean not being in Aussie like Ossie was always 111 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: a big source of inspiration for me. Well, you're just 112 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: just to meet different people, see what's going on, see 113 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: what things are coming up, think, see what things are 114 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: working in the restaurants, see in the markets. So not 115 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: being out of travel for the last two years, yeah, yeah, 116 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 4: it has not been great. You know, so I'm desperate 117 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 4: to come back. But anyway, sorry dude, I interrupted you. 118 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: No, no, no, all good. 119 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of not being out of travel, I do 120 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: love the message behind the new book. But it is 121 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: called Together, your twenty fifth Recipe Book, and I love 122 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: the blurb at the start here Jamie talking about making 123 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: food that says I love you. 124 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 4: Can you expand on that a little bit more totally? 125 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: And as you guys are in lockdown, you're going to 126 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: be feeling it. I think. Look, it's one of the 127 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: few times in our lives when we've all been through it. 128 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: You know, often when we go through stuff, it's for 129 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 4: me or our family or our street. But this is 130 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 4: everyone's going through this. So when when you're not allowed 131 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 4: to have your friends and your family around when you 132 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: want how you want. We've had a year to think about, Well, 133 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: I don't like that. But it's more complicated than that, 134 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 4: because well, what is it then, because I've seen them 135 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: on Skype or I've seen them on zoom or whatever 136 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: it is, and surely that's enough. No, it's not enough, 137 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: because to be in someone's presence and to feel them 138 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: and to read their body language, to touch them, to 139 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: kiss them, to hug them. And I know I'm being romantic, 140 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: but also I know you're nodding and everyone. And so 141 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: I think the currency of skin on skin has gone 142 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: up in the last year total. And then and therefore, 143 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: when I was writing this book, first of all, I 144 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: was kind of putting food in its place, like it's second, 145 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: it's not first, Like what is first is how do 146 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: you create a scenario where you can make new memories. 147 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: That's all it's about, is memories, making new memories with 148 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: the people that you love. It doesn't It can be partial, 149 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: it can be fancy, it can be super humble and 150 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: pared back and casual. But in the book I wrote 151 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 4: it completely differently. I've never done this in twenty five books. 152 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: I've wrote it in a way where you get ahead. 153 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've saying that, yeah, yeah, yeah. 154 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: So when all your family and your mates turn up, 155 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: you're not. I mean, how many times have you been 156 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: to something where the person's doing it is just stressed, 157 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: sweating and kind of pretending they're happy. 158 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: And you feel terrible And then do you want a hand? 159 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Do you want to hand? They're saying no, yea, yeah, 160 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: they do want a hand, but they want to be 161 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: a good home way. 162 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: Whether you're a non cook or a chef, it doesn't 163 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: matter if you choose the wrong thing for the wrong event, Like, 164 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who you are, you're going to be 165 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: in that situation. So what I try to do, if 166 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: you just flick through the book, what it should If 167 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: I've done my job right, you should have a whole 168 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: array of scenarios. So from taco party, curry night, the 169 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: back feast, you know, there's brunch party now you know. 170 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: Actually brunch was inspired by my last visit to Australia, 171 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: because you guys do it so well in the UK 172 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: and much of Europe. We don't do brunch. Really. Yeah, again, 173 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: that's what I'm that whole vibe about. You know, my 174 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: radar is always open when I'm traveling. 175 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 176 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: My job is to filter it down and then sort 177 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: of scatter it out amongst the audience that I'm lucky 178 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: enough to have. But yeah, man, I mean, I don't. 179 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: I don't think it matters if you're a cook or 180 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: non cook, if you're very chilled, or if you're fancy, 181 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: like the book is there to hold your hand and 182 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: guide you to a wicked night where friends and family 183 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: takes center stage. 184 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely love that, Jamie. 185 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: I do love that, And I love that you're saying 186 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: there's a food for every situation because I have a 187 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: challenge for you right now. It's my girlfriend's twenty seventh 188 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: birthday next Thursday night. 189 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: M My question to you is twenty seven what an age? 190 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: Come on? 191 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: I know, very exciting, very exciting you. Thirty two? 192 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: No, well at least forty five? 193 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: Piss off. 194 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: I'm joking. 195 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: It's in my bald counterpart. You think it was sixty. 196 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm joking anyway. 197 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: So I going to carry on her twenty seventh birthday party, 198 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: which is next Thursday, and obviously we're in lockdown so 199 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: no one else can come over, so it's just me 200 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: and her at home. I want to create a meal 201 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: which says I care about you and but also I'm 202 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: a little bit sexy as well, Like this is a 203 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: sexy but I care about you sort of meal. 204 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: What's the meal for that situation? 205 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: And what is what? Like what mood is she in 206 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: at the moment is a place so it's kind of 207 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 4: pissed off for her. 208 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: Work's actually been impacted pretty badly, so she's in a 209 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 3: bit of an up and down patch at the moment, 210 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: to be honest. 211 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: And what sort of flavors does she normally? What makes 212 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: her happy? Like does she like sort of like like 213 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: does she like sort of Asian flavors? Does you get 214 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: into that more Italian? Because these sort of these sort 215 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: of questions, it's quite a psychological game getting it right. 216 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: That's what makes you, What vibes make you happy? But 217 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: also like, I mean, does she like seafood for instance? 218 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: No, not a huge safer event. 219 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: I'll say she'd be more of your Italian vibe, and 220 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: I'd say her mood is up and down if that 221 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: helps the equation. 222 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: Okay, So have you got the book in front of you? 223 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I do, Yes, I do. 224 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: If you go to go to page go to page 225 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: one forty one, forty yeah. 226 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go. 227 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: And I guess anyone listening right now if they want 228 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: to create a meal for their partner which is sexy 229 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: but also warming and romantic, go. 230 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: To page one. Yeah. Yeah, I'm What I'm trying to 231 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: do here is like, yeah, limit, I'm choosing this recipe 232 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: because I think it's it's got Italian hearts. You're going 233 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: to be able to get it in the oven but 234 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: still not be like sat there stressing. But you'll see 235 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: you on one thought, it is a picture of my 236 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: little boy. And first of all, we've made the ultimate 237 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: garlic bread super like it's it's like delicious. Yeah yeah, 238 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: And if you look at the method of that, it's 239 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: really simple. And look what you get at the end, 240 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: you just you tear and share it. It's incredible. Garlic 241 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 4: bread is one of those really weird things where people 242 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: just go mad for it, but they go really mad 243 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: for it when it's homemade, so that's gonna be a 244 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: good stuff. Then there's the crispy pesto chicken, right, so 245 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: we're not trying to reinvent the wheel, but that little 246 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: method of just batting out the chicken, putting the bread 247 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: crumbs on the outside really really delicious. And then you'll 248 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: notice it's it's kind of like an alfauno risotto, right, 249 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: it's a kind of I haven't called it risotto because 250 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 4: the Nunnas would come and find me and be a 251 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: horse's head in my bed. But essentially, if you look 252 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: at it, what it is, it's essentially a play on 253 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: a margarita. But you just you put it all in 254 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: the dish and you bake it until it goes blippy 255 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: and gnarly, so tomatoes basil. So basically, what I'm trying 256 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: to say is we're not this is like a humble 257 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: this Actually this was a menu designed for my kids 258 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: because they love it. But I think if your girls 259 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: in that mood, it's safe. You're going to be free 260 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: to put on something really sexy and tune light some flower, 261 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: you know, light a candle. 262 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, talk to me about that. Jerry Men. You know 263 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: you've got a beautiful wife, Jewels. I know you would 264 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: have had to seduce her at some stages, like can 265 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: you give me some more advice outside of the meals, 266 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: like what should I be wearing? 267 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: What should I be listening to? 268 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: Well, if I'm allowed to, because you this is your 269 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: show is quite a trendy show in it, I'd like 270 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: to think, Yeah, instead of telling you what you should do, 271 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: can I tell you what you shouldn't do? Yes? Please? Okay. 272 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 4: So basically, when I was your age, which was a 273 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: while ago, pretty much your age, actually, I was doing 274 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: exactly what you're about to do, hure J. And I 275 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 4: was in my first flat and I had my first 276 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: kitchen and it was a beautiful German oven fan assisted 277 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: and I did I did a whole roasted sea bass, 278 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 4: and I set the room, laid it flowers day, oh 279 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: yeah on the tunes, got the shutters down, salubrit, and 280 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: I thought the coolest thing to do, which is why 281 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: you shouldn't be doing this. I just I was the 282 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: naked chef, so I'd serve it naked, right. 283 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a real thing. 284 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 4: You would actually naked, yeah, once, but there's an ending 285 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: to the story, so you won't or you shouldn't copy this. 286 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: So literally the only thing I was wearing was a 287 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: bow on the end of it. So then I opened 288 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: the oven. This is a true story, dude. Yeah, go on, 289 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: but but but half I checked the sea bass halfway through, 290 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: and because I'd had a bit of white wine in there, 291 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: of course. 292 00:12:54,520 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 5: Okay, no, no oh. I tried everything to change it. Man, 293 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 5: That's why I haven't been speaking. But yeah, that's because 294 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: the interviews started. 295 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mate, don't your faults? Not your fault. 296 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's so annoying. I just I couldn't jump in there, man, 297 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I was just freaking out the whole time, going. 298 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: As soon as the interview started with him, it said, 299 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: you got eight minutes left. 300 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: Set the. 301 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 5: Chat from six. Surely they can let us back in. 302 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: If it just cut out, he would know. He's like, 303 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: I've lost them. He'd say, oh, here we are. We're 304 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: on yep. Yeah, good Jamie. Sorry about that, mate, Can 305 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: you hear us? 306 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? Was it you or me? 307 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: That was us? That was us at our rand. I'm sorry. 308 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: We're still recording though, mate, so we can we can. 309 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 4: It happened. It did happen to us on the last one, 310 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 4: and we couldn't work it out and we changed computer. 311 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: I believe where we left you, Jamie. 312 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: Though. 313 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: It was actually quite an extraordinary moment. When we dropped out, 314 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: you were in your kitchen. Everything's romantic, the lights, you've 315 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: got chard a plane, you've got a full bass in 316 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: the oven. 317 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: You're nude apart from a bow around you. Johnson, Yeah, 318 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: a red bow. 319 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: Just to be specific, the red boat. 320 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Was that like a pre tied bow. What did you 321 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: do the tying of the bow on your own? Johnson? 322 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? I tied it and it was a double knot. 323 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: Of course it was. Of course it was now because 324 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: if you do a single one it might slip. 325 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: Of course. No, of course was there room for excitement. 326 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the point, young, young, young jedi. 327 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: Writing these secrets down. So why was this a bad idea? 328 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: Because we're getting to the point where. 329 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: You're okay, it's very frustrating. German efficiency basically was the 330 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: problem there was there was There was an element of 331 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: pressure created through a very good seal, and circulation of 332 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: heat through a good fa and and and enough steam 333 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: through good wine and fish juices. So when I went 334 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: to check on the fish, what I imagine was a perfect 335 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: laser shot of steam attacked my penis. And but the 336 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: problem with this story is it's true, and the pain 337 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 4: was for us men of let's just say sort of 338 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: a mid range penal size. You know, it was a 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: kind of hard pain to explain because it was the 340 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: worst pain in the world. Yet what happened was one 341 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: of the most beautiful things I ever saw. So it 342 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: was kind of like a bitter sweet thing. 343 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: What do you mean because it because it swelled up? 344 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, mate, what's your problem? Like, do you want me 345 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: to let me let me put shot of steam on 346 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: your penis what happens? 347 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 5: Well? 348 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: Is it just going to sit there and go, oh, 349 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: thank you, I'm just going to react. I'm not going 350 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: to react to that steam because I'm so strong, I've 351 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: got a jacket on. Like, what's your problem when it's 352 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: not rocket science? 353 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: So sorry, So you've got the steamed Johnson, which is 354 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: now looking better than it's ever looked before because the 355 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: size is so much bigger. So then do you fight 356 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: through the pain and then still go out to your 357 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: date to show her you're new and proved Johnson? 358 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: Well, as you can tell by that, even you, as 359 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: a chef would know that if I'm checking the fish halfway, 360 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: it means that the serving time is literally only ten 361 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: minutes away, fifteen minutes she turns up and I'm sat 362 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: down on what was a very nice vintage leather seat 363 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: with frozen, frozen green giant peas on my penis, and 364 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: I was obviously very distressed, and she's like, what the 365 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: bloody hell are you doing? And I told her she 366 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: thought it was I was stupid and ridiculous, but ultimately 367 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 4: bringing it back to the book, Yeah, it's all about caring. 368 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: And I had cared, I had tried, I had made 369 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: the effort. So what I am telling you to do 370 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: is go out and get the book because it will 371 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: hold your hand through beautiful meals. But what I'm telling 372 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: you not to do is what I did when I 373 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 4: was your age, cooking the same meal that you're about 374 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: to cook for my wife's thirty seventh birthday, and that 375 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: is cook a whole sea bass in a German oven, naked. 376 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: Don't do it. It doesn't work, it's not worth it. 377 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 4: There was small moments of pleasure that filled me with 378 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: joy to a level that I'd never experienced before. Because 379 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: it looked like a jaff or orange. But don't do it. 380 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: Don't do it. 381 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 5: You can see a whordo of the swelled penis in 382 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 5: the book actually a page. 383 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy eight. 384 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: Don't believe Jamie, one hundred and seventy A little look, 385 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 5: it's next to the pea soup. 386 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred and seventy eight. I'll tell you. If 387 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 4: it's close there, we'd go one hundred and seventy. 388 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: Eight, dred and seven there. It just looks like a 389 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: big roast chicken. Is that what it looked like? 390 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. I think I think he's 391 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: just leading us down the garden. 392 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean, no, that was just a random number. But 393 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: it would have been good if that was bangers in mash. 394 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: What's really wrong about that random number? I mean, it 395 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: could have been funny. Is it's my son on that picture? 396 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 4: So that's kind of like really wrong. You know, that's 397 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: kind of that's. 398 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: Taken a little dark side. Gives us the tender sticky 399 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: all beugine. Maybe that's something more like what your penis 400 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 3: was looking like. 401 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, weren't far anyway. How are you 402 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: going to transition that? I mean, you're a professional. How 403 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: are you going to build a bridge from the ending 404 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 4: of that story to the next bit? 405 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: Well, you already did it. You linked it back to 406 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: the book. You said, there's a there's a meal for 407 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: every single occasion. The only thing is, though, do not 408 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: cook in the nude unless you have a particularly small penis, 409 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: and then it can end up looking like a tender 410 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: sticky all beugine. 411 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: I was just seeing the face of my Australian publisher 412 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 4: who's just getting me to try and promote a beautiful book, 413 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 4: and it's like, but how did you get onto that story? 414 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: I was just his fault. He's cooking for his girlfriend. 415 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: It is my fault. 416 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: It is my fault, but it's your fault that you 417 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: have created another cooking book which puts all other cooking 418 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: books to shame. It is called Together. I love the 419 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: message behind it. I love that you know people in Australia. 420 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: You know, so many of us can't see each other 421 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: at the moment, and this is a really special way 422 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: for us to connect. And when we can go over 423 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: to each other's houses, it's really awesome that we can 424 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: be cooking something nice and easy from this book. 425 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: Mate. I try to put heart and soul into it. 426 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: But more than anything, I tried to make the book 427 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: useful for right now. I mean, as you come out 428 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: of lockdown and as you're allowed to see your friends 429 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: and family again. If you read the introduction, if you 430 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: look at the words like I think it's going to 431 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: be really useful and hopefully you get to make some 432 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: beautiful memories, you know, going forward with some lovely food. 433 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: So that's the vibe. 434 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: You're a legend, mate. Get that book now from any 435 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: good bookstore. Purchase it now, Jamie Oliver's Together, You're a 436 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 3: legend mate. 437 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks mate, Take care, Cheers Jamie. 438 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast. 439 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: You know you want to