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Speaker 1: It's been an incredibly busy morning it continues to be.

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Speaker 1: But joining me in the studio right now from the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police City is Commander Danny Bacon. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Now, Commander,

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Speaker 1: can I ask firstly this morning, I understand that police

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Speaker 1: have had to close a section of popular Darwin Beach

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Speaker 1: after a body was found nearby.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, Codie. The scene is currently closure at the moment. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: we've found a deceased person. That deceased person was subject

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Speaker 2: of a missing report last night with no suspicious circumstances

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Speaker 2: at this junction in time, but the matters an't currently

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Speaker 2: under investigation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that person was believed to be a missing

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Speaker 1: person yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, look I know that the police

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Speaker 1: will be working hard to try and work through that

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Speaker 1: terrible situation. Moving along, another terrible situation that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in recent days and certainly kicking off the year. It's

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Speaker 1: really sad to see the number of fatalities that we've

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Speaker 1: had on our roads. Another fatal crash on Baggett Road

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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent correct, Codie. It's and the tragic thing

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Speaker 2: about this is all these lives are preventable. This is

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Speaker 2: the ninth Northern Territory life that we've lost on our

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Speaker 2: last year we'd only lost one life. So we're talking

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Speaker 2: about nine lives so far prior to this, the previous

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Speaker 2: eight lives, all those eight were Aboriginal Territorians. I can

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Speaker 2: also tell you that one hundred percent of those fatal

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Speaker 2: crashes involved alcohol drugs of some form. And I also

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Speaker 2: can tell you that three of those were pedestrians, and

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Speaker 2: out of those that weren't pedestrians, seat belts were not

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Speaker 2: worn by any of the parties that are now to cease.

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Speaker 2: So as I said, all these crashes are preventable, These

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Speaker 2: lives lost are preventable. It's just a very tragic circumc

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Speaker 2: It's is obviously for the individuals, but also the individual's

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Speaker 2: family and immediate community. It's not a very good way

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Speaker 2: to start. It's horrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so so aside from the crash on Baggott

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Speaker 2: Even the one on Backet Road also was an original

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Speaker 2: territory that lost his life drugged and alcohola yet to

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Speaker 2: be determined as factors. Ously, that matters quite fresh and

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Speaker 2: under investigation, but certainly the eight prior crashes our coh

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Speaker 1: How do we make a change in this space? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's actually staggering, an incredibly sad situation as.

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Speaker 2: Well, very sad is certainly in Northern territories. Lives lost

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Speaker 2: in our fatalities. You know, we're on par with third

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Speaker 2: world countries when it comes to lives loss compared to

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Speaker 2: our population. So you know, these are territories we're losing

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Speaker 2: our roads. These aren't visitors, These aren't you people coming

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Speaker 2: single one, as I said, is preventable Codie. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we need to do a lot of work in our

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Speaker 2: space and the certainly the enforcement space. But education is

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Speaker 2: very very key in this area as well, through your

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Speaker 2: driver's license, your education programs, through your schooling. So there's

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Speaker 2: a range of different measures that need to be undertaken.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no doubt about it, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that it's something that we will all continue to work through.

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Speaker 1: I know that it's something we've spoken to to the

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Speaker 1: that wanding. It's something we'd heard quite a bit about

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, wandering is one part of a legislative I

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Speaker 2: suppose toolbox that our operational officers have certainly in DWN.

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Speaker 2: We've used that on the tenth of February Solast Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We use it in the high Rish location of Kashri

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Speaker 2: in a village and Cashrian Square. I think we wandered

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Speaker 2: as I said, one of many tools that we have

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Speaker 1: Now I know you're not the commander of Catherine or

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Catherine falls into your area, but

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Speaker 2: Certainly I engage with my account part in Cathern, the

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Speaker 2: Commander of Catherine. We share resources when needed in regards

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Speaker 2: to spikes or trends and issues as well. At Catherine

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Speaker 2: at that time had a large visitation at that time,

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Speaker 2: there was officers from our Territory Support Division went down,

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Speaker 2: to be a mobile and flexible workforce to respond when needed.

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Speaker 1: How is that Territory Support Division going. Does it fall

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Speaker 2: No, it falls under a different command portfolio. It's a

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Speaker 2: territory based command it's only in its infancy stage of being built.

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Speaker 2: look at that hotspot policing. If look that terminology and

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Speaker 2: a bit of a surge capacity for other areas.

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Speaker 1: As well, does it make any difference for you in

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Speaker 1: terms of juggling your workforce, and you know those numbers

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Speaker 2: I mean, and as I said, you know the workforce

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Speaker 2: those bodies, if that makes any sense, so that that

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Speaker 2: I said, provide a bit more of a surge capacity

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Speaker 1: The other issues I did want to ask you about.

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Speaker 2: Or I can tell your listeners and yourself, Caudies, that

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Speaker 2: the matter remains under investigation at this junction in time.

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Speaker 2: Police were only notified of the incident at the hospital

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Speaker 2: when the individuals receiving treatment. There was no notification made

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Speaker 2: a lag in time for that to be reported to police. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he did say that.

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Speaker 1: He did say that when he joined us on the show,

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Speaker 1: and he had said that it was because he's quite scared.

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Speaker 2: So all I can say is a matter does remain

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Speaker 2: an investigation of this junction in time, and ongoing inquiries

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, yeah, keep us up to date. Let

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly the weather has a how I should put

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Speaker 1: Yes, And look, just thinking out loud, and I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to catch me out or

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory but nationally certainly. I'm not sure what's in

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Speaker 1: Now, Commander, before I let you go, it is indeed

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day and it's a bit of a reminder from

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police well to make sure that you're

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Speaker 1: not getting caught out on Valentine's Day. Do you find

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Speaker 2: Certainly is this time of year like Christmas is the

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Speaker 2: only hearts scams, So yeah, you baited love scams and

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Speaker 2: au just to check it before you click on anything

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Speaker 2: at all. Anybody can get scammed, no matter who you are.

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Speaker 2: You are very cunning these days. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: I was scammed this Valentine's Day. I bought my wife.

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Speaker 2: I thought I did, brought us some lovely jewelry, but

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Speaker 2: some fishing rods turned up. Ah. Sure, I'm not sure,

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Speaker 2: but I'll have to recheck, make sure the website was correct.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you've done that, Donny Bacon. Mate, Before I

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Speaker 1: let you go, our listener's just messaged through and said,

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Speaker 1: what is wanding now to that listener, it's nothing involving

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter. It is actually a small device that the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police shoes to be able to check where

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Speaker 1: the people have got weapons, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: That's correct? So the legislation was introduced last year to

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Speaker 2: assist police operating in high risk areas where there has

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Speaker 2: been potential increase or reporting of people having edged weapons.

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Speaker 2: So we can declare an area for wanding operations and

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Speaker 2: that just allows us to use a wander metal detector

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Speaker 2: on individuals that are within that public place. Obviously we've

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Speaker 2: surrounding that. As I said, it's just another additional tool

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Speaker 2: that we have just to keep people safe in those

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Speaker 2: Irish publicly areas.

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Speaker 1: Good to confirm that our police aren't introducing capes and

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Speaker 1: witches hats and and magic wands to their to their uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Danny Danny Vacon, the commander of the Northern Territory Police Force,

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Speaker 1: good to speak with you this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time. Thank you