1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: On Friday, we spoke to a frustrated Palmerston resident who 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: launched a petition called had a Gut Full after dealing 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: with some of the worst public housing tenants in the territory. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Now they had a sign up day on Saturday, and 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: we are told that it was very successful, with over 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty people just coming into Matthew Curll's 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: electro to office to sign it, as well as receiving 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: that support from other electorates. Now that frustrated Palmerston resident 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: joins me on the line right now, Good morning. 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: Again, Good morning Katie and your listener. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Now, tell me how did it go on the weekend 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: and how did you sort of feel seeing so many 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: people lending their support. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh, look, it was overwhelming. And you know, I think 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: I said last week when I spoke to you, but 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: you know, I knew this wasn't an issue that I'm, 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: me and my surrounding neighbors experienced. I know it's territory wide. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: I've lived for twenty seven years and and hence fire. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: I just want to get the community together to unite 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: and say, you know, everyone's had a gup. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: For what were people saying as they were coming out 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: to sign that petition. Were are the people telling you 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: about some of their horror stories? 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, Katie. And you know, look, it was great 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: that Matthew Curl and Clinton how I took the time 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: to come along and listen to the community, because I 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: think the community just feels like they're so unheard and 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: and so, you know, it was a real eye opener 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: and quite horrific at some of the you know, the 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: things that other people you know are enduring as well. 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: And you know, again, it was great that you know 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: that Matthew and and Clinton were there to you know, 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: answer questions and you know, and and and make them 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: feel heard, which I think was the essence for me. 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: I feel like the community just feels like they're just 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: not hurt if we're just expected to shut up and 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: put up and pay up funding well, and the thing is. 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: You know, some people are living like yourself. Some people 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: are living next to some horrible public housing tenants. I mean, 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: yesterday I spoke to the Minister for Housing, Steve Edgington. 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, they put out some figures about tenants being 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: evicted and some going to nt CAT and you know, 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: some of the money they're trying to claw back with 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: public housing. You know, like good that some of that 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: work's happening, but it doesn't really go far enough. I mean, 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: what did you think when you were hearing him talk 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: about that yesterday? 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Well, I was I was laughing, to be honest, because 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: I think I've noticed the territory just go downhill over 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: the years. And this isn't something that's happened under this 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: political party or that political party. This is something that's 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: you know, spiraled out a control for over thirty years. 53 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: And you know, and Steve and you know, I just 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: went wow, you know, I emailed his office and I 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: emailed the Chief Minister's office back on the. 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Well, we seem to have lost you there. Hopefully I 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: have still got my. 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Animals for my own safety from my mates. 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm just going to have to get you to repeat 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: that last bit because the phone cut out for some reason. 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: So you had emailed Minister Edgington's office and also emailed 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister's office. What did you email them about? 63 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, katiemailed Steve Edgkinson's office and the Chief Minister's 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: office and also Gerard Mayley to make him aware as well. 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: And that was the night that I had to get 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: evicted from my private residence for my own personal safety 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: as I came alone and me and my three dogs 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: had to be evacuated because of my safety from a 69 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: mob next door. 70 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you had to, like you literally had 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: to be taken out of your own private residence for 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: your own safety. 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And do you think I've had a response 74 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: from mister Edgington's department over that? How long ago was 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: this seventh of January twenty twenty six, So it's. 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Literally like a couple of weeks ago, and you haven't 77 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: even had a response after you had to be evacuated 78 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: from your home. 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: Correct? 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: My mind is, like I. 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: Said, we've been going through this crap for two years 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: now and following their procedures and policies and the failure 83 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: to enact sooner before it spiraled out out of control 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: is just so disappointing. 85 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Now I know, like, obviously we're keeping your identity under 86 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: wraps because I don't want your safety to be jeopardized 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: in any way. I don't want you to say anything 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: that could jeopardize your safety in any way. But how 89 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: dangerous was it on the thirteenth of January for you 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: to have to be evacuated from your home. 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: I had two of my neighbors hanging over my chain 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: mesh fence, threatening my life, threatening the life of my children, 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: and basically the following week I basically went down to 94 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: Catherine for a week with my children because I didn't 95 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: want them here. I had to get my personalized number 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: plates changed back to ordinary number plates, so my car 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: wasn't victimius. Yeah, it's just terrific. We have to take 98 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: me now, beautiful Jarwin Town. 99 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear that. That is mortifying that 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: you had to go through that, utterly mortifying. And so 101 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: what you are telling me now is that you haven't 102 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: even heard back from the minister or the department. 103 00:05:59,440 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: No. 104 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, well, look we're going to follow this up 105 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: as well, because I think that it is really important 106 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: that you know that that anybody living in the Northern Territory, 107 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: we all have the right to feel safe in our homes. 108 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, the fact that somebody has got public housing 109 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: and that they're carrying on in that way and that 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: is an it's a privilege to have that public housing 111 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and that you you can't even get any kind of 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: callback in relation to that is just it's it's quite 113 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: mind blowing. 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: It is. It is, and it's and it's really disappointing. 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not alone. My family and I 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: are not the only ones going to this, like you know, 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: all our surrounding neighbors. It's happening across the territory and 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: everyone's hat a gup call and that we're just expected 119 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: to put up and shut up and pay out the honor, 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: you know. And it was interesting too at much a 121 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Girl's office, you know, talking about the properties that are damaged, 122 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: these type of tenants that they have, and it costs 123 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: the taxpayer one hundred thousand dollars to refit the property 124 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: before they can tenant it out again. And it pays 125 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: for that, Katie, we do, we do. 126 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. And look, I heard another media 127 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: outlet speaking about public housing problem public housing tenants earlier 128 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: this morning, and you know, their big question was where 129 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: do they go once they're evicted? But you know the 130 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: fact is you can't have people threatening to kill their neighbor, 131 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: and you know, you having to evacuate to Catherine to 132 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: feel safe with people being provided with this public housing 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: and then allowed to stay in there despite this kind 134 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: of behavior. 135 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we've got a pending and TEACAT complaints 136 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: and Tribunal Board hearing eviction hearing that's been deferred through 137 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: NATA and the client which gets accepted each time, and 138 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: it's been deferred sin States of January. Now it's being 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: pushed out this month and and that'll probably get referred again. 140 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: We just had another man get arrested in the backyard 141 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: at midnight on Saturday night. So when mister Edginson says that, oh, 142 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: we're you know, books a twenty five problem sentence, I 143 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: call bs because our neighbors appear to be exempt from 144 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: any law enforcement or you know, or any department housing 145 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: policies in their current legislation. 146 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: I would be feeling exactly the same as you. And 147 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, I can understand why you've launched that petition. Hey, 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: where can people still sign that petition if they haven't already? 149 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, get onto change dot org. I just had 150 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: a look, we're up to one hundred and seventy two 151 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: people online, and you can get onto that by either friending, 152 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: had a gut full on Facebook, or have a look 153 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: at the social pages. As I say, a lot of 154 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: community groups admin don't like my messaging, so I haven't 155 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: been able to get far and wide to everyone. So 156 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: best body is to just message me a friend request, 157 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: had a gut full and all the informations there on 158 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: my page. I've also just be your listener's awareness. Reached 159 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: out to mister Briano Gallagher's office the MLA for Karama 160 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: and Malac and I'm hoping to be able to organize 161 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: a community sign on day for that region this Saturday, 162 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: but I'm just waiting for details to get confirmed. 163 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: All right, well, we will have a look at that 164 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: as well. Thank you so much for your time this morning. 165 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. 166 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you you too. 167 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: That is a concerned Palmerston will frustrated Palmerston resident there 168 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: having a chat to us. She's launched a petition which 169 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: we told you about on Friday last week, but then 170 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, to hear that it has obviously had more 171 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: signatories over the course of the weekend after it was 172 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: at Matthew Cole's office on Saturday. But then to sort 173 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: of you know, hear her reaction as well. Following on 174 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: from the discussion with the Minister for Housing yesterday, Steve 175 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Edgington and they'd issued that press release yesterday or over 176 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the weekend, I should say saying how many tenants have 177 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: been evicted and the impact that some of their changes 178 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: around public housing are having. But I'd tell you what, 179 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: if you were living next door to somebody who's hanging 180 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: over your fence threatening to kill you, and you're then 181 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: having to seek refuge in Catherine to get away, change 182 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: in number plates on your car, and take other measures 183 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: to keep you and your family safe, that would be 184 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: you'd be feeling like it's an absolute joke hearing that 185 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: other people have been kicked out, because you'd be saying 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: to yourself, well, hang on a sec, how can I 187 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: live next door to these people and nothing's happening.