1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, we unpacked 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: the closure of a popular Reddit thread dedicated to snarking 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: on Ossie TikTokers, Nikki Wescott's surprising baby shower location, and 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Taly Smythe's shock pregnancy news. But first, twenty sixteen is 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: back in a big. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Way across social media. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: People are posting throwbacks to what they were doing a 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: decade ago, is part of a new trend dubbed twenty 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty six is the new twenty sixteen. I've been really 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: enjoying seeing these posts popping up, But then I've also 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: had a bit of whiplash. I'm like, hang on, how 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: come I was twenty six then and still feel twenty 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: six now? 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Like it literally feels like yesterday. 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: The crazy thing is twenty sixteen seemed like such a 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: pivotal year for so many people. Kim Kardashian was saying 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: she thinks that she had the most dramatic twenty sixteen, 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: But I actually think Sophie and I did. I mean, 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if we could rival Kim Kardashian's. But yeah, 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty six was a huge year for us. We lost 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: our jobs at Channel seven in some pretty dramatic circumstances, 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: ended up suing the station. I also started my first 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: job in PR and also met my husband that year. 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: What were you doing in twenty sixteen, Kate, I was. 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Working at the Adelaide Thunderbirds See. For me, twenty seventeen 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: was more of a big year because that's when I 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: met my husband and had my i'd say dream job 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: at the Adelaide thirty six so I had won on 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: lots of away trips. It was a really cool time. 32 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: But I remember you saying that twenty seventeen. 33 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: Was your peak as in how you looked. 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I know it's a bit depressing now that that was 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: nearly ten years ago, but in terms of appearance, it 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: is interesting seeing all the influencers doing their throwback. We 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: had a post where we threw back to a bunch 38 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: of influencers from twenty sixteen. Shanie Grimman and Michael Finch 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: actually ended up commenting on it, which I found quite iconic. 40 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: But I was shocked at how different some of them 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: looked like. People were like can you actually add a 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: caption to say who they are? Because I'm not sure. 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: What really stood out to me is that twenty sixteen 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: had a real style. When people were posting on social media, 45 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: the colours secene to be really oversaturated. There are a 46 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of orange and pink tones in there. There was 47 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of bright white going on as well, a 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: lot of over editing. We need to share photos of 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: us from twenty sixteen because I feel like you were 50 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: a real culprit for turning white up because some of 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: like inside orangeide photos, you look like you should be 52 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: in Geordie Show. Your ten is that orange and your 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: teeth are that white. Myself, though, I touched on the 54 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: fact that I was working at a PR firm and 55 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: it was quite a fashionable PR firm where we held 56 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: a lot of events and we did a lot of 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: social media for big clients, and we were always told 58 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: to sharpen all of the photos, make everything bright white, 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: everything oversaturate. 60 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: But that was the look back then. 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: That's what everyone was doing, probably because our phones were 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: so crap that we didn't actually have like really sharp photos. 63 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: It is a bit of a jump scale when you 64 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: go back, you're like I can't believe I posted this 65 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: thinking that it looked normal. It was funny because I 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: had a task of going back through Steph clais Smith's 67 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: photos to pick out the iconic twenty sixteen ones. And 68 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: what realistod out to me was how back then it 69 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: was actually cool to go to the races. So there 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: were so many photos of her and Laura Henshaw at 71 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: the races. She was a racing ambassador, and it's funny 72 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: to think ten years on that is just a no 73 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: go for Steph and other influences. I saw someone write 74 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: in our comment section, God, Laura Henshaw wouldn't be seeing. 75 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: Dead at the races now. 76 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty wild because the searches on TikTok for the 77 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: term twenty sixteen have searched by four hundred and fifty 78 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: two percent. And there's also a new filter where it's 79 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen filter that you can put on things. 80 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: Oh, it's all. 81 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Over my FORU page and I've been loving it. I 82 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: saw James Charles did a makeup tutorial throwback to twenty 83 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: sixteen where he did the looks that you would wear then, 84 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: and it was so funny. It was like that big 85 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: pop of like champagne highliner and baking under the eyes. 86 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Of course they had to have tart shape tape like. 87 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh. 88 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: So many people our age would still do their makeup 89 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: like that. That's what made me feel sad because I 90 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: reflected and they were like, oh, yeah, well, the full 91 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: coverage foundation and the heavy iron. I was like, holy fuck, 92 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: I've been frozen in twenty sixteen, because again, that was 93 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: probably my prime. Because you get stuck in whatever you 94 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: were doing in your mid twenties, you just continue doing. 95 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: Thing I'm pissed off about is I recently threw out 96 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: a lot of my clothes from twenty sixteen, and now, 97 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: if you can believe it, gen z are trying to 98 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: revive the twenty sixteen fashion. So Grazio wrote a piece 99 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: on this phenomenon, explaining it's gen Zets, who were too 100 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: young to experience twenty sixteen fashion for the first time 101 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: who were bringing it back. This was the year of 102 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: the skinny gene also the micro bag chokers, if you 103 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: can believe it, also dark red lipstick, flannelettes, and very 104 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: chunky boots. 105 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Also a lot of wedges. 106 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: I remember wearing wedges on my first date with Brandon. Yeah, cook, 107 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: I did a throwback to all their twenty sixteen milestone 108 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: pieces and they had this iconic pair of wedges and 109 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: everyone's like, please bring them back. There was also this 110 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: dress that continuously sold out. It was kind of like 111 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: a late color with white splodges on it. I'm feeling 112 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: very smug because I went through my dresses and I 113 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: have quite a few that have that choker kind of 114 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: built into them, and I was like, I can't throw 115 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: it out, so maybe I can get another ware. 116 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: What about the green jackets? 117 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the military jackets are coming back as well. 118 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: The thing is, I just threw one out print on it. 119 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: I kept mine. 120 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: In this article, though, they said that you have to 121 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: think Coachella energy minus the chaos. So it says so 122 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: statement necklaces that are Saint Lauren rather than Neo Zara, 123 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: a dark lip, not a Kylie King Navy, but more 124 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: of a grown up burgundy. It's smarter and cleaner. So 125 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: that just sounds more expensive to me. It's like, oh, 126 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: we have to have a statement necklace, but it has 127 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: to be why ourself, like what? Well, Also, apparently it 128 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we're going to see the skinny jean 129 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: coming back, but it's going to be more of a 130 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: straight leg or flared leg pant. We're not going to 131 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: be seeing the really really over the top baggi jeans. 132 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Isn't that what we already have, Like everyone's been wearing 133 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: straight leg jeans for like five years now. Yeah, but 134 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: they're also the very baggy mum jeans been in fashion, 135 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: So apparently that's going to be out. I know our 136 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: best friend is going. 137 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: To hate that. 138 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: So it's more of a refined gene. It's not quite 139 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's because everyone's realized how much 140 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: more comfortable non skinny jeans are, Like can you I 141 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: try to squeeze back into them? Yuck. You mentioned Kylie 142 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Jenner's lip kit, which actually came out around that time. 143 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I still have a Kylie Jenner original eye shadow palette, 144 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: and I also have the Hood Beauty one, you know, 145 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: that one that was quite iconic, has like the glittery shade. 146 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: There's like a magenta one, and I was like, do 147 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: I throw them out or do I keep them? Day? 148 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be out of day. 149 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: God, you probably get poisoned by putting on the Kylie lipkit. 150 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Not poisoned, but it would be like probably a lot 151 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: of bacteria from ten years ago. 152 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: But I wasn't gonna use it. 153 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: I was just thinking if I ever had a daughter, like, 154 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: do I keep it and be like, oh check this 155 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: out like this is so iconic? 156 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: Or are they just not going to care? 157 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: They probably won't care. 158 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: Now a lot of people are getting too caught up 159 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: in the we need to know and I get it. 160 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: I get it. 161 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: A rereddits read dedicated to snarking on Australian TikTok is 162 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: is the latest casualty in the influencers war on trolls. 163 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: The moderators behind subreddit Aussie TikTok snark announced they were 164 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: shutting down after receiving threats their identities would be revealed 165 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: by the influencers they snark about. Now, okay, before we 166 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: unpack the drama, can you get listeners up to speed 167 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: about what Ossie TikTok snark is all about? Well, essentially, 168 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: it's an online gossip community on rereddit that positioned itself 169 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: as a place to discuss Australian TikTokers and hold them 170 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: to account. 171 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: However, it often. 172 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Crossed into harsh criticism. It was pretty common for anonymous 173 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: users to call out creators for alleged scams or hypocritical behavior, 174 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and there was also a lot of commentary around creators, 175 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: parenting and personal relationships. Another hot topic was TikTok feuds 176 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: and drama, so sort of the similar type of content 177 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: you would find on tattle Life, and influencers, just like 178 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: on tatle life, would have their own separate subredits under 179 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: this banner of Oussie TikTok snark. Now, the thread was 180 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: often criticized for persistently targeting specific creators, and there were 181 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: instances where people were defamed and doxed. Now. The thread 182 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: was created back in November twenty twenty two, but it 183 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: isn't the first of its kind on rereddit. So the 184 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: US and UK have similar snark subreddits focused on online creators. 185 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: Now, let's get into the drama. 186 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: So, on the eighth of January, the moderators of Ossie 187 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: TikTok Snark announced they were making the thread private and 188 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: restricting posting due to personal circumstances. They wrote, we have 189 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: all had some great times here with heaps of laughs 190 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: and some of us even being privileged enough to make friends. 191 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: This has been an incredible ride, and most of you 192 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: have been incredible, except the ones who broke the rules. 193 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Just kidding. They then went on to thank the people 194 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: who had supported the subreddit over the years and said 195 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: it was an honor to be part of the community now. 196 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: This news spread like wildfire and led to speculation that 197 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: the moderators had been hit. 198 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: With legal action. 199 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: A lot of people actually thought Indy Clinton might be 200 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 1: involved in the closure, off the back of her unmasking 201 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: her trolls with. 202 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: A PI last year. 203 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Confusion then mounted further when Facebook gossip page Tea Time 204 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: made their page private just hours later. 205 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: I forgot about Tea. 206 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: Time because we all got blocked from there, I think 207 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: for sharing information on the podcast. 208 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: I told you guys, I was like, they're gonna block us. 209 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: I was so disappointed on that. Not for the gossip, 210 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: but I just loved. 211 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: Reading all these personal stories that people would put up. 212 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: See thanks guys. In defense of Tea Time, it is 213 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: a rule that you can't take screenshots or report on 214 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: information that has been mentioned on there, so we did 215 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: break the rules. Can can you please let us back 216 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: in if you are back operating again? Well, it's actually 217 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: still closed. They're known for having temporary closures to moderate 218 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: pages because they've had issues with influencers and legal stuff 219 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: in the past. However, they're still yet to resurface. So 220 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: a theory emerged online that potentially the same people who 221 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: were behind the Reddit thread must be responsible for tea 222 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: time as well. That is still unproven. Well, it didn't 223 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: take long for a group of three influencers to claim 224 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: responsibility for the shutdown of Aussie TikTok Snark. 225 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Those TikTokers were. 226 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: Teaging Deville, Krlia Musa, and Sarah Mills, who unfortunately found 227 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: themselves at the center of reoccurring topics on the Reddit thread. Yeah, so, 228 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: they claimed that they had uncovered the identities of the 229 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: creator and the moderators of Aussie TikTok Snark and threatened 230 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: to unmask them if they didn't shut the page down. Now, 231 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: these women said it took them years of investigation to 232 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: discover the real identity of the owner, who goes by 233 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: the username popular Room. Now, for those not familiar with 234 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: the influencers, let's start with Tiagin Deville. So. Her real 235 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: name is Teagan Maria Pekura Gilmour and she has over 236 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand followers on Instagram. She actually 237 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: rejects the title of influencer, so instead she says she 238 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: simply calls people out online who were rude to creators 239 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: for no reason. I hadn't heard of her before and 240 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: I checked out her page and wow, she does not 241 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: hold back. And her name might sound familiar because she 242 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: was actually in the headlines late last year after it 243 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: was revealed that she was facing court on charges of 244 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: fraud and money laundering in relation to a cryptocurrency scam 245 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: that duped almost three million dollars out of investors in 246 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And in November last year, Teagan took accountability 247 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: for her actions on TikTok, so she confirmed she would 248 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: be facing prison time for her actions. So you can 249 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: kind of see maybe why that Reddit thread went out 250 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: the control with that on. The other content creator involved 251 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: is Carlia Musa, who shares what she calls the unfiltered 252 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: reality of motherhood. She has almost one hundred and sixty 253 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: thousand followers on TikTok. Then there's Sarah Mills who has 254 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: over three hundred and eighty thousand TikTok followers, and she 255 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: shares a lot of family style content and also has 256 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: a podcast. It's pretty interesting because when the women essentially 257 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: said yep, it was us that managed to get this 258 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: reddit thread shut down, they were not met with the 259 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: type of fanfare Indy Clinton was when she announced that 260 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: she'd uncovered the identities of her trolls. Instead, the women 261 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: were criticized for not publicly unmasking the owners of the 262 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Reddit thread, and they were also forced to defend themselves 263 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: against allegations that they were only looking out for themselves. 264 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I can kind of understand where this criticism is coming from, 265 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: because if you were one of the content creators who 266 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: was affected by this page, I feel like you had 267 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: the right to know who was behind it as well, 268 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: particularly if they then want to initiate their own legal action. 269 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: It is interesting though, that the general public also feel 270 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: like they have the right to know because it really 271 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: doesn't benefit them at all. 272 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 273 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I think the difference with the Indy Clinton thing was 274 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: that these were people that were just trolling her, so 275 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: it was sort of her decision whether she wanted to 276 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: publicly name and shame them, And also she didn't get 277 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: a whole page shutdown, which people clearly enjoy going on. 278 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: I also think a lot of the backlash has to 279 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: do with Teegan's criminal background. As I mentioned earlier, she 280 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: is set to be incarcerated this year after pleading guilty 281 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: to charges of fraud and money laundering. And I think 282 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: some people would probably look at her background and think, well, 283 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: perhaps the page served a purpose in holding people like 284 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: her to account. On her Instagram story, she wrote, what 285 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: people don't understand is I'm going to prison anyway. I 286 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: did some horrible shit in twenty eighteen, and I'm going 287 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: to pay my dues. But most of your posting have 288 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: a family and supposed squeaky clean reputation. It's pretty interesting 289 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: because then she referenced that her crimes had actually taught 290 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: her some of the skills online that allowed her to 291 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: uncover the identities of the creators of this reddit threat. 292 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: There were some people who were so interested in finding 293 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: out the identities of those behind this page that they 294 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: actually ended up doing their own investigation, which resulted in 295 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: the wrong people being doxed, and this reaction led Sarah 296 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: Mills to call for calm on her TikTok a few 297 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: days after the reddit thread's closure. She said things had 298 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: been taken too far and was concerned that the wrong 299 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: people were being named and doxed. 300 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: She then said this. 301 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: We wanted to be strategic about it. Instead of going 302 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: this is who it is and accomplishing nothing, we went 303 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: straight to the source and said the page needs to go. 304 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: We were offered to have posts removed about us, but 305 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: that wasn't good enough. We wanted the page gone because 306 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: there's no fucking point for it. Sure there'll be other 307 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: pages that come back, but for now, every creator can 308 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: take a breath, We can relax. I don't think it 309 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: will get to the size the new one of the 310 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: last one, and maybe people will think a little bit 311 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: harder because even when you're on a completely anonymous account 312 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: with no details, you still can be found. 313 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, that makes more sense to me why they haven't 314 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: named and shamed the owner because the thread is down anyway. 315 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: It's not like they were only just looking out for. 316 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: Themselves, like yeah, yeah, just delete ours, Yeah, because what 317 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: would have led on to these people being named and 318 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: shamed then trolled themselves. I mean, do you guys think 319 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: as members of the general public, it's important that we 320 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: know who is behind these pages? I actually think it's 321 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: different in relation to tattle Life because back in June, 322 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: Sebastian Bond was unmasked as the owner of the forum, 323 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: and he was successfully sued in a landmark defamation and 324 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: harassment case. Now, the reason I think that as the 325 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: general public we have the right to know about who 326 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: was behind tattle life is because he was making a 327 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: huge sum of money off that page through advertising. So 328 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: he was making a definitive decision and that was a 329 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: business for him. Yeah, so he was making money off it, 330 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: But the person that made this creddit thread isn't. It's 331 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: actually the platform Breddit that would be making money off advertising. 332 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: So surely social media platforms have a responsibility to moderating 333 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: what's on their platform. One of the positives of people 334 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: being unmasked like that is the fact that it will 335 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: most likely deter a lot of other people from doing it. 336 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: Ever since we banned anonymous posting in our Facebook group, 337 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: it has been such a positive. Even though there have 338 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: been less posts, there have been so many less arguments 339 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and disagreements and also nasty commentary put in the group. 340 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty admirable. 341 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: I think that these three influencers have the morality not 342 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: to want to ruin their trolls lives. I mean, Indie 343 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Clinton also had the option to name and shame her trolls, 344 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: but didn't She of course, decided to take the legal 345 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: route with the worst of them. 346 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: Suppose it's a. 347 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Way to dodge being called a hypocrite though, because you know, 348 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: their complaint is that they're being trolled, and then you 349 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: go on docs the troll and then everyone trolls out. 350 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: It's just ongoing circle. 351 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: I think. 352 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of it is to do with the 353 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: optics and the knowledge that if you do out someone, 354 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: you're probably going to get a whole lot of crap thrown. 355 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Back at you as well. 356 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: I think the best karma those trolls got was having 357 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: to sweat on it, though, Like within Clinton, it really 358 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: felt like she was the name and shame. I mean, 359 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: how many sleepless nights would those people have had? Yeah, well, 360 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting because late last week Teagan Deville announced 361 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: to her followers that they had a legal win. So 362 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: originally the women asked the owner of Aussie TikTok's not 363 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: to delete the thread and all associated posts. However, they 364 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: were like, hang on, if they do that, then we 365 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: might not be. 366 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: Able to provide the receipts. 367 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: The police need to undertake an investigation, so they got 368 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: in contact with Reddit's legal department, who confirmed that they 369 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: have a backap of all the content that's been posted 370 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: on their server, as well as the email addresses and 371 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: IP addresses of the so called anonymous users who posted them. 372 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Surely then Reddit has some responsibility as well. Oh, here's 373 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: all of the awful things that our platform has allowed 374 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: other people to say on here. 375 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: True, and maybe it's pretty stupid to hand that over well. 376 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Teagan confirmed that a large scale national investigation is now 377 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: being conducted by the police and urged influencers and content 378 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: creators to send evidence to this specific police email to 379 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: assist in charges being laid against the moderators of the thread. 380 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: Can you imagine these officers having to sift through some 381 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: of these threads. 382 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind. 383 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: It'd probably be quite into day. Yes, he's put a 384 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: hand up to volunteer. I mean, I'm a bit busy 385 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: at the moment, but you know, now, there's been a 386 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of talk of copycat threads popping up, and Tea 387 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: can confirm that Reddit will be investigating any similar threads 388 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: that pop up and told influencers to take screenshots of 389 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: those as well as other similar accounts that try to bully, 390 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: harass or intimidate them. 391 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: She then said this there has finally gone to be 392 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: justice for those ones that have lost I guess brand 393 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: deals and things like that because of what was posted 394 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: on there. If there was people that were saying, hey, 395 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: let's try and tarnish these brand deals and things like 396 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: that that are on there, they will be investigated too. 397 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: So then there's going to be rome IGIs for deformation 398 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: for you guys. So yeah, I will put the email 399 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: and the description. 400 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: The post was highly supported by Australian influencers. Popular TikToker 401 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Ames wrote under the post, you're an actual angel. I 402 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: am so interested to see how this develops. It could 403 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: be another landmark case like we saw with tattle Life. 404 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: I mean off the back of that one successful defamation 405 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: case Sebastian Bond, the owner was threatened with up to 406 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: forty further libel actions. The crazy thing is tatle Life 407 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: still remains online and operational. However, it is being investigated 408 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: by the UK Information Commissioner's Office for suspected. 409 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: Data law breachers. 410 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much longer it's going to 411 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: be up. Maybe they legally have to keep it up, 412 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: as you were saying, to give people the ability to 413 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: be able to get evidence from it. I have noticed 414 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: that a lot of threads are a lot quieter than normal. Well, 415 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: it's quite interesting because one of the TikTokers was saying, 416 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we can go through these processes of 417 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: finding out your IP address and all so your email address. 418 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: But the way a lot of people fucked up essentially 419 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: was that they'll go on Aussie TikTok's nak and bag 420 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: out all these influences under what they think is this 421 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: anonymous name. But then they'll also go and share personal 422 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: details and other threads that are completely off topic. 423 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: Maybe you know. 424 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: There's I've seen like Golden Retriever threads where you talk 425 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: about it. I took my God and Retriever to the vet. 426 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: So then people can scour through all of your posts 427 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: and sort of pick up these identifiable features about you's 428 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: because a lot of them become friends through their hatred 429 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: of certain influences and then reveal a lot a lot 430 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: of that information about themselves. Do you think this is 431 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: actually going to stop people anonymously bullying influencers online though, 432 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: I definitely think it's going to act as a bit 433 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: of a deterrent considering this is something that's been mounting. 434 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: Across the last year or so. 435 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: A lot of people think that they can hide behind 436 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: anonymous accounts and the fact that they actually can't. I 437 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: think it will get to a stage where people are 438 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: docked and unmasked, and I think that will add even 439 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: a further deterrent, because what we're seeing is a lot 440 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: of people who do anonymously post on these types of forums. 441 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: They all have very wholesome jobs that we're seeing lawyers, doctors, teachers, 442 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: and they're going to think, is this going to impact 443 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: my career going forward? Well, I mean, I think a 444 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: lot of people probably like I can't believe Indie and 445 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: these group of women don't want to dox their trolls. 446 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: But we had a pretty similar situation where we found out. 447 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: Who our biggest troll was. 448 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: And it ended up being an absolutely tragic story. I 449 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: was so heartbroken over I won't go into the personal 450 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: details about it, but it was an absolute shock, and 451 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: when I found out who the person was and what 452 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: actually happened, I was like, this does so much more 453 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: about them than it does about you, and I can't 454 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: imagine ever doxing them and so this was the person. 455 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: Also kind of made me feel sad because in hearing 456 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: their story, they clearly found a sense of belonging on 457 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: that forum. And I don't actually think that the person 458 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: deep down was a bad person at all. They just 459 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: had some awful things going on in their life. Well, 460 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: one of the influencers who managed to work out who 461 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: the owner of the TikTok snark thread was, she said, look, 462 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: can we just go back to people commenting to their 463 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: friends about it as But the thing is maybe a 464 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: lot of these people don't have friends outside of them. 465 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't have friends, but also follow the saying people, Well, 466 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: that's the difficulty. 467 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: I suppose with the. 468 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: Way we are online, we're very run by algorithms, and 469 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: I suppose you know people that I want to talk about, 470 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: you might not know, and that's why they come together 471 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: on online forum. So back in the day, if you 472 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: wanted to have a bit about a model or an 473 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: actress that was pissing you off, most people would know 474 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: about them. But now it's very you know, in silos, 475 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: isn't it. 476 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: Tully is looking very unseasonally festive. It's a lovely day 477 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: in Melbourne. 478 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: Former Big Brother contestant Tully Smyth has announced she's expecting 479 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: a baby with her partner ned I reckon we can 480 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: tick this one off our list because in our influencer predictions, 481 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: we said that there was going to be a huge 482 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: milestone for Tully Smith and her partner need. We didn't 483 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: want to touch too much on pregnancy because I feel 484 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: like that's bit unfair to do it. 485 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what I feel like? 486 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: Moving forward, we almost need to write down our predictions 487 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: and like do a time capsule and bury them, because 488 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: because there's some that was like, oh, you know, we didn't. 489 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: We felt too bad to say we thought Matt and 490 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Tammy would break up, but we really did. So maybe 491 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: for proof, film ourselves data and then go back to it. 492 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: Every time capsule seems to get stolen though, reason you 493 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: were they're talking about you're referencing the time capsule that 494 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 5: was buried at our primary school in two thousand and 495 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 5: it was going to yeah, someone stolen. 496 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: Under the or someone stole it. 497 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: What do you want in there? 498 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: Kids drawing just to ruin people's times. 499 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, this pregnancy announcement made me emotional, and that's quite 500 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: unusual because Tully Smith has been really open about the 501 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: fact that she has wanted to be a mum for 502 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: so long and ever since she was on Big Brother. 503 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: What was it like over ten years ago. 504 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I feel like we've ridden the wave of all these 505 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: relationships that she's had and her heart breaks, and it 506 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: almost seemed like we weren't going to get to this point. 507 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: She has also been very open about the fact that 508 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: she has been on an egg freezing journey, so she 509 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: actually received a lot of criticism in twenty twenty three 510 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: when she revealed she had a partnership with an egg 511 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: freezing clinic. Remember that, because she reached out because we 512 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: discussed it on our podcast and she was giving us 513 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: extra information seying how upsetting it had been for her, 514 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: and she was being. 515 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Trolled over it. 516 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 517 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: I really felt for her because it was a difficult 518 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: one because it was at the time when paid partnership 519 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: with that paid partnership tool had come in, and people 520 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: thought that she had been paid to go through the 521 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: process when she actually just received it more of as 522 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: a gifted item. I mean, it's such a touchy topic 523 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: as well, and I think people see influencers getting this 524 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: very expensive treatment done and think, well, why should they 525 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: get it, they already earned so much money. But I 526 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: think Tully's been quite honest with the fact that she 527 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: makes quite a standard way influencing, and that's what we're 528 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: going to see more of. As the influencer space becomes 529 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: more oversaturated. There's going to be influencers who were just 530 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: earning what a normal nine to five person earns. 531 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast the other day. 532 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: It was two Queensland influencers and they were saying the 533 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: thing that shocks most of their friends is actually how 534 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: little some. 535 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: Of them make. 536 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because back in December, Tally wrote an 537 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: article for Vogue entitled The Quiet Heartbreak of attending Baby 538 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Showers in your late thirties, and she actually would have 539 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: been pregnant at the time, and there were a couple 540 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: of clues in there. So in the article she wrote, 541 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: if you're thirty eight and trying to conceive that hits differently. 542 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: I adore my friends, I really do. I show up 543 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: with a gift and a card and a full heart. 544 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: But I'm also human, which means I can feel joy 545 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: for them and heartbreak for myself at the same time. 546 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: She then finished the article ominously, writing one day, you 547 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: might be the woman people gather around. One day, you 548 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: might unwrap tiny clothes. One day, you might kiss a 549 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: baby who looks like you. I had never read any 550 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: of Tully's articles before this one, and she is an 551 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: incredible writer. She's so articulate. It made me emotional reading it, 552 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: which is quite rare. I can be a bit of 553 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: an ice queen sometimes. Yeah. It's funny though, because we've 554 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: all been on engagement watch for so long with her 555 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and Ned. They've been together for a couple of years now, 556 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: and Tully has kind of got this reputation for really 557 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: pumping the tires of her boyfriends, and it hasn't been 558 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: any different with doctor Ned. He just, yeah, I want 559 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: to come back in life as one of Tully's boyfriends, 560 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: just to get a huge ego. 561 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: Boots, Well, it's nice, though. 562 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: It's nice to actually appreciate your part that we have 563 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: to talk about this video though, the way that they 564 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: announced the pregnancy. So Tully and Ned made this announcement 565 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: with a professionally shot video, which was really cute. They 566 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: were in as field of flowers and they had their 567 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: ultrasound photo in the clip. It was really cute in 568 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: the video Tully also had a heart shaped necklace with 569 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Mama written on it, and there were just so many 570 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: cute little touches. It went for quite a long time 571 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: in this video. It was very aesthetically pleasing. I really 572 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: liked it, and in the caption, Tully wrote, tiny Rawt 573 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: joins our world July twenty twenty six. We're completely over 574 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: the moon and so incredibly grateful to anyone still hoping, trying, 575 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: or healing. We see you and we're sending. 576 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: So much love. 577 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: It's funny because after having to write my own pregnancy announcement, 578 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: it's so difficult to word them these days, because you 579 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: want to share how excited you are without hurting anyone's 580 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: feelings who is on their own conception journey. 581 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well I think she did it really well. 582 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: She did. I mean, it was an overwhelming amount of support. 583 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: In the comment section, it was pretty cute. Ned wrote 584 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: so proud of you already can't wait to meet our 585 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: little egg, and Tully wrote back, luckiest baby in the. 586 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: World to have you as their daughter. That's cute. 587 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: I was interested to see the influencers who were commenting 588 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: on this because I sometimes you don't realize that they're 589 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: friends with each other, so I didn't know that Brook 590 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Hogan and Tully were friends. Brooke wrote, oh my god, Yes, 591 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: this makes me so so so happy, Oh my god, 592 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: whilst Alex Nation from The Bachelor wrote, I can't wait 593 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: to meet this little babe. 594 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: Love you guys so much. 595 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: The first person I thought of was Olivia Rodgers because 596 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: I know Tully and Olivia are really good friends, and 597 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: Olivia is of course due in April. Well, we can't 598 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: see her comment, can't we because we're still blocked. Yeah, 599 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: if you're listening, Olivia, please unlock us. But yeah, their 600 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: baby's going to be so close to it. It's going 601 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: to be the similar gap that you and I had, 602 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: so so they're. 603 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: Actually going to be able to do a lot with 604 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: each other. 605 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's particularly special because they both 606 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: went through those huge breakups around the same time, and 607 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: they probably bonded over maybe that worry that things weren't 608 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: going to turn out for them, and they have. 609 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: I always wanted to be a Hooters girl. Guys, hot 610 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: girls and hot wing, literally and cold beer. I want 611 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: to go to Hooters right now. 612 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: The Countdown is officially on after podcaster Nicki Wescott celebrated 613 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: her baby shower over the weekend. The location of the 614 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: co ed baby shower raised eyebrows, though with the event 615 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: held at her husband Olifrost's controversial restaurant. Now, so before 616 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: we get into the drama, can you tell us about 617 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: this party? Well, Nikki looked incredible. She was dressed in 618 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: a yellow two piece number from her brand Jagger and 619 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Stone with her belly exposed. That seems to be her 620 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: whole look throughout this pregnancy. Yeah, it's been a bit 621 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: of a fashion accessory for her and a lot of influences. 622 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: She's been pooh bearing it as you would say. So 623 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: this sounds might sound weird, but she's got a really 624 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: nice shaped belly she does. I mean, she is a 625 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: gorgeous looking pregnant woman. I have to say she looks incredible. Now. 626 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: The yellow theme continued into the party, with the restaurant's 627 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: signature wall on display, as well as a pop up 628 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: build your own bouquet bar which had yellow flowers. 629 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: I love that idea. 630 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: I think it was sponsored because the times that Nicki 631 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: tagged this brand in the post, I was like that 632 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: she must be getting it for free back week. Fantastic. 633 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: We don't know if that's the case, because anytime we speculate, 634 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: it really seems to trigger a lot of influences. 635 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, Palidi is nicky. 636 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: He did pay for it now. As a surprise, the 637 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: staff at the venue even organized a live past the 638 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: station with hand rolled past her and there were a 639 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: couple of kids getting involved. It looked like a beautiful event. 640 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: Nicki's co host Lucy Jackson was of course there, and 641 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: before the event, she posted a Mira selfie where she 642 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: was wearing an outfit also by Jagger and Stone and 643 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: wrote it's giving Auntie and also shared a cute photo 644 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: of her dog Billy and wrote certified hot uncles ready 645 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: for the baby. I was a little bit surprised to 646 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: see that Nicki held the event at Ollie's restaurant, The Man, 647 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: because the venue has been in the headlines for all 648 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: the wrong reasons over the last couple of years. So 649 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: in August twenty twenty three, Tammy Hembrose ex fiance Matt 650 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Paul called out Olli publicly over a dispute over the restaurant. 651 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: So he said that he invested thirty thousand dollars into 652 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: the business but was squeezed out and has no idea 653 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: where his money is. And it's not the first time 654 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: that Ollie's businesses have been in the headlines for the 655 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: wrong reasons. Well, that time was very turbulent for Ollie 656 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: because it was being reported that four of his businesses 657 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: had entered administration and the Man was one of those businesses. 658 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: The businesses were able to continue trading by switching to 659 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: different trading entities, so that is why we have still 660 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: seen a man trading currently. 661 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: I suppose a lot. 662 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Of people who don't get the Gold Coast Bulletin or 663 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: listen to Outspoken probably don't know all of this business 664 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: trouble that Oli Frost has had. So the baby shower 665 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: actually probably provided some good promotion for the restaurant. And 666 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: I suppose they need it like they need to bring 667 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: in money. And you probably go, oh, I'd like to 668 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: have my baby shower where Nicky Wescott had hers. I 669 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: noticed that Tammy Hembro wasn't in attendance at the baby shower, 670 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: and she actually wrote underneath Nicky's post about the shower, 671 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: so stunning, nick wish. 672 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: I could have made it. 673 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if she purposely stayed away because she didn't 674 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: want to cause any tension between her and Matt Paul. 675 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, because Matt Paul has been 676 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: quite outspoken about Tammy hembro like he's teamed up with 677 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: Matt Szakowski. He's made a few off comments which make 678 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: it seem like he's not. 679 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Really a big fan of her. 680 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: I still got their daughter, Posey, who they co parent with, 681 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: so hopefully it's all sort of settled down after last 682 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: year and they're just moving on. Like it wouldn't have 683 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: been a good look for Tammy to be photographed at 684 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: a man. I'm really excited to see Nicki become a mum. 685 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy that it's only a couple of weeks away. 686 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: And I loved watching her do up her nursery. I 687 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: was actually heavily influenced by Nicki because in addition to 688 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: her nursery, she's also been I suppose nesting in the house. 689 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: She got some organizers in to clean out her wardrobe 690 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: and she did a full wardrobe tour and she was 691 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: showing off all of the organizational stuff. And this was 692 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: when I was in my peak throwing shit out in January, 693 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: and she had these really cool jewelry boxes and I 694 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, they must be really expensive. It turned 695 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: out they're twenty five dollars from. 696 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: Kmart, so I bought one. 697 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm tempted to buy another one. 698 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: I think I need to. 699 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, on that note, I think that is all 700 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: we have time for today. Thank you so much for 701 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: joining us for this episode. 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