1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the Daily. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Ohs oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: to the Daily OS. It is Tuesday, the sixteenth of July. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm billy, i'm zara. Controversial influencer Andrew Tait and his 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: brother Tristan are being sued for tax evasion in the 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: UK after failing to pay five point three million Australian 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: dollars in taxes. UK police alleged the pair paid no 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: tax on forty million dollars of revenue from their online 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: businesses between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty two. It's the 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: latest in a string of legal battles that the two 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: men are facing, both in the UK and Romania. In 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: today's deep dive, we are going to lay out all 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: the different charges and what they mean for the controversial influencer. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: But first, Sarah, what is making use today? 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: King Charles the Third, Australia's Head of State, and his 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: wife Queen Camilla, will travel to New South Wales, the 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Act and Samoa this October. It's their first visit to 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Australia since their coronation in May twenty twenty three. The 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: pair initially planned to visit New Zealand as well. However, 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: their travels have been limited on advice from King Charles's 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: doctors as he continues treatment for an unspecified form of cancer. 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: PM Anthony Abernezi said he would be quote honored to 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: welcome the King and Queen to Australia. 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: The Victorian wing of the CFMEU, Australia's Peak Construction Union, 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: will face the state's anti corruption investigation body. It has 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: also handed control of its operations to the union's national 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: executive following allegations published by Nine Network of widespread criminal 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: wrongdoing and links to gains and outlaw biky groups. Victorian 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: CFMEU boss John Setkos stepped down from his role on Friday. 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: Victorian Premier de Cinta Allen has described the cfmeu's culture 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: as quote thuggery at its worst. 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: US President Joe Biden has called for citizens to lower 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: the temperature in our politics and said that the nation 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: must stand together. Following the attempted assassination of former President 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. In an interview with The New York Post, 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump said I'm supposed to be dead. I didn't die. 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture. 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: Biden said he spoke with Trump and that he's quote grateful, 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: he's doing well. One other person was shot dead at 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: the rally and the shooter was killed by authorities at 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: the scene. The motive of the shooter is yet to 42 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: be confirmed. If you'd like to know more about what 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: this will mean for the US presidential election, Billy and 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Sam recorded an excellent podcast on that very topic and 45 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 2: will throw the link in today's show notes. 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And today's good News. Travis Bozana has become the first 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Australian to be picked first in the Major League Baseball Draft. Bizana, 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: who is also the first ever Ozzie to be picked 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: in the first all second round, was selected by the 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians. The twenty one year old played college baseball 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: at Oregon State with the Beavers. 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Before we jump into this deep dive, a quick heads 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: up that we will be talking about sexual violence. So 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: if you are not in the right headspace to listen 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: to this today, jump off and we'll be back again tomorrow, Billy. 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: Last week, it was reported that controversial influencer Andrew Tate 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: and his brother Tristan are both being sued for tax 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: evasion in the UK after failing to pay five point 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: three million Australian dollars in taxes. Now it comes as 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: the two are awaiting trial on several different criminal offenses, 61 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: very serious things, including rape and sex trafficking. 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: So I wanted to do this podcast because there have 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: been so many different headlines surrounding Andrew Tate and his 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: brother over the past few years, and it's very complicated, 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: and we haven't done a deep dive into him in 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: a while. 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Now. 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: I presume if you've clicked on this episode, you probably 69 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: know who Andrew das, but I still think that that's 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: a good place to start, just to give a quick 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: little explainer. So Zara, who is Andrew Tait. 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: A good question, And actually I think I fall into 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: the category of people that have just seen lots of 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: headlines but haven't ever really engaged with his stuff. And 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: so in preparing for this podcast, I did a bit 76 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: of a deep dive into that content and into who 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: the Tate brothers are. And so, Andrew Tait is an 78 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: American British influencer. He calls himself a self made multi millionaire, 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: and that's often shown in very flashy cars and big homes, 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: those things that come up quite prominently in his videos. 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: Very significantly. He has previously called himself absolutely a misogynist 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: and has also said that I'm a realist and when 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: you're a realist, you're sexist. A lot has been said 84 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: about the role of tech companies. I think in giving 85 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: Andrew Tate the platform to have influence, you need to 86 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: have a platform. And I do think that his influence 87 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: on young men cannot be underestimated. In sheer numbers alone, 88 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: he has currently nine point six million followers on x 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: It's a huge number. He's been permanently banned from Instagram 90 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: of Facebook since twenty twenty two, and he is also 91 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: currently banned from YouTube and TikTok, and all of those 92 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: bands come from breaking their rules around hate speech and 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: other restrictions. In terms of the actual material that Tate 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: publishes himself, I'm not going to play you clips of 95 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: him speaking. I think they are very freely available if 96 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: you want to go and have a look about who 97 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: he is. And so, while over the past couple of 98 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: years he's been spoken about for his sometimes very inflammatory 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: comments misogynistic comments, lately the focus has been on this 100 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: range of legal challenges that he's facing, and there have 101 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: been lots of headlines about it. 102 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost an understatement to say that he is controversial. 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: The kind of content he posts is often complete hate speech. 104 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, deeply offensive. 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Another thing that happened in the last week is that 106 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Nick Kirios, the Australian tennis player, tried to distance himself 107 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: after he had previously posted a quote of Tate, and 108 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: then he said that he really regretted. 109 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: That there is a bit of a movement, like I 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: think that he symbolizes something broader that many academics are 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: looking at when it comes to influencing, especially young men, 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: and the role of tech. It's just completely fascinating. 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Now we've gone over who exactly he is, but we 114 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: want to explore the legal battles that he is facing. 115 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: Let's start with the first charges that were laid against 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: him and his brother. 117 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will make most sense to start 118 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: furthest back and then get to why we're talking about 119 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: him today. So the story of Andrew Tate and his 120 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: current legal battles go back to Romania, where him and 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: his brother have both been living for quite a while now. Now. 122 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: In April of twenty twenty two, police carried out a 123 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: raid on the place where he and his brother were 124 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: living and it's often referred to as a compound, and 125 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: it's because Andrew and Tris and Tate have fought several 126 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 2: years now lived in this massive warehouse that they bought 127 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: in the middle of Romania, and they have converted that 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: to this huge living space. So whenever you hear about 129 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: their living, just imagine what they're in. And so back 130 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty two, this raid was carried 131 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: out and at the time it was understood to be 132 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: in connection to an investigation into sex trafficking. So fast 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: forward several months to December of that same year, so 134 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: were still in twenty twenty two. The Tate brothers were 135 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: arrested at their home and they had some property of 136 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 2: theirs also seized by authorities, so things like those luxury 137 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: cars that I mentioned earlier. They were kept in Romanian 138 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: detention until March of twenty twenty three, and at that 139 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: point they were freed and placed under house arrest. And 140 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: so it was only in June of twenty twenty three 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: when Andrew and Tristan Tate were actually charged by police, 142 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 2: and those charges were extremely serious. They were charges of rape, 143 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: human trafficking and forming an all organized crime group to 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: sexually exploit women. 145 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Those are extremely serious charges. What else do we know 146 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: about what they're being accused of? 147 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: They are very serious, and Romanian prosecutors were alleging that 148 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: the brothers recruited at least seven women to join them 149 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: by quote misleading them about the intention to establish a 150 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: marriage and the existence of real feelings of love. The 151 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: women were then allegedly transported to Romania where they were 152 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: subjected to physical violence and mental coercion, things including constant 153 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: surveillance and being forced to film pornographic content. And Andrew 154 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: Tate is also accused of using physical violence and mental 155 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: pressure to rape one of the women. So those formed 156 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: some of the allegations that have then been the foundation 157 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: of these charges brought by Romanian authorities. So I said 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: earlier that they were under house arrest, but in August 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: of last year they were released from that house arrest 160 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: and they were allowed to move a bit more freely. 161 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: They do still have some restrictions on their movements, but 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: they're by no means under house arrest. 163 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: And so has that case against them actually started in court? 164 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: It hasn't. And before we go on, I do just 165 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: want to make clear both of them men do deny 166 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: the charges against them, but the case hasn't started yet, 167 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: so there had been a bit of back and forth 168 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: about whether you know, the threshold of evidence had been reached, 169 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: and all of those things that happen in any kind 170 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: of preliminary stage of a trial. But in April this 171 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: year it was decided that it could go ahead. We 172 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: just haven't actually received confirmation of when it will happen. 173 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: But there were also headlines about the brothers being extradited. 174 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: Was that in relation to this case A. 175 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: Good question, fairly confusing, but no, this was a different case, 176 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: so those headlines were actually in relation to a completely 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: different set of charges. So just to recap, we've got 178 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: the two men committed to stand trial in Romania for 179 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: a range of charges, things including sex trafficking. They've been 180 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: held in detention, then house arrest. Now they've been released 181 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: but still fairly restricted, and that case hasn't started. Separately though, 182 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: the Tates are also facing allegations in the UK, so 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: in March of this year British police obtained an international 184 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: arrest warrant for At that point it was just said 185 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: two men in their thirties, but then a spokesperson for 186 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: the brothers confirmed that it was in relation to them. 187 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: At that point, they said that they unequivocally denied all 188 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: of the allegations. Those allegations were around sexual offenses. They 189 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: ranged from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen, and in March 190 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: of this year, the brothers were arrested in Romania on 191 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: behalf of the UK, and so that's where this headline 192 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: about extradition comes from. Because the crimes were alleged they 193 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: committed in the UK. The two men would need to 194 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: be tried in the UK, but they're living in Romania 195 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: and so they would need to be what's called extradited, 196 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: which just means sent from Romania to the UK before 197 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: further legal action can be brought against them. After they 198 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: were arrested on these UK charges, the brothers face a 199 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: court in Romania and that court ruled that they could 200 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: be extradited, but not until the Romanian case that we 201 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: were talking about earlier ends. 202 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So to recap, yes, the tape recap. The tape 203 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: brothers are facing a very serious case of criminal charges 204 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: against them in Romania. That case will go ahead, but 205 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: we don't know when that will happen again. Once that 206 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: is concluded, no matter what the result is, they will 207 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: then be sent to the UK to face a new case, 208 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: a new string of charges against them. Correct in the UK. 209 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: That's right. So we don't know when the Romanian case starts, 210 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: let alone when it ends, so we have no kind 211 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: of time frame of when or how this could happen. 212 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: But their future is very much wrapped up in legal cases. Yes, absolutely, 213 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: so those are the cases that have been going on 214 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: for quite some time. 215 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: Now. 216 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: Why are we talking about Andrew Tate today. 217 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: Well, there's another legal battle that Andrew and his brother 218 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: Tristan are facing. This one is different from the other 219 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: ones because the other ones we've spoken about so far 220 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: are criminal. This one is a civil case. So this 221 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: is in regards to alleged tax evasion in the UK, 222 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: and it's being alleged that the two of them have 223 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: failed to pay something like five point three million Australian 224 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: dollars in taxes in the UK. 225 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: So what are the details on that one. 226 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: It's the brothers and another person, but they're anonymous. We 227 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: don't know who that is. They're all being sued by 228 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: the UK police and the police are attempting to recover 229 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: millions in unpaid tax on earnings from the Tates. We'll 230 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: call it products, so things that they've sold digital services 231 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: and only fans. Last week police gave evidence that the 232 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: pair made approximately twenty one million pounds in revenue between 233 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and twenty twenty two, on which they paid 234 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: no tax in any country. 235 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: So what have we heard so far in that case? 236 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: So in a UK court, the lawyer that was representing 237 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: the police called Andrew and Tristan Tate's serial tax evaders. 238 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: The lawyer said they, in particular Andrew Tate are brazen 239 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: about it. And I think that was in reference to 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: a video that was played in that case, which heard 241 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: from Andrew Tate directly. It was a video he had 242 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: posted that said when I lived in England, I refuse 243 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: to pay tax. Ignore, ignore, ignore because in the end 244 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: they go away. 245 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: Interesting, don't have to look far for evidence. 246 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't know if that will help him. It 247 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: seems like that might form the corner zone of the 248 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: police's case here, but we'll have to wait and see 249 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: what happens here. As with the other cases, we can expect, though, 250 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: on this civil case to get a judgment fairly soon. 251 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: So We're expecting a judgment on the ninth of September 252 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: with this one, and then those criminal charges would just 253 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: have to play out in their own time. 254 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: One. We will continue to keep an eye on this podcast. 255 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Has raised any issues for you, you can contact one eight 256 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: hundred respect on one eight hundred seven three seven seven 257 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: three to two. Thank you so much for joining us 258 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: on the Daily os. 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