1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Hey, what did you drive this week? I had a 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Lamborghini horror car. Yeah, very orange, very orange. I like 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: to call it high viz. 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: Orange. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: No, I didn't. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, I drove the MG four, the new one. Yeah, 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: from like thirty eight thousand dollars, which is bloody check. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: That's is that it's not technically the cheapest by like 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars, right something like that. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 4: I think the. 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: BYD Dolphin is like in that by one hundred bucks. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure those two cars are miles apart. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, the MG I think looks better to me. But 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: then I also went to check out the key at 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: EV nine. Yeah, and I reckon that looks unreal. So 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: that's launching in October this year. It's like as big 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: as a land Cruiser, seven seats full of electric. 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Does it feel heavy? 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: Well, we didn't drive it. 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: It's these were pre production cars, but got to sit 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: in it and it has all of the bells and whistles. 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: They haven't announced pricing, but it'll be about one hundred grand, 23 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: so it's gonna be But yeah, that that is good fun. Now, 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: before we get further into this show, we're about to 25 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: have a guest on and. 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and one thing I will say before the guest 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: comes in, just enjoy me in beautiful, lovely crisp audio 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: while it lasts. While it lasts, is in about four minutes, 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: it's going to turn shit house. 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: So we had an issue with Gordy's mike and it, yeah, 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: it clips a little bit for some bizarre reason. So 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: when you do hear the interview, we apologize profusely for 34 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: Gordy's performance. 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Not my fault. It's not my fault, babe. 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: Happens all the time. 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 3: But yeah, this bloke you will know him from radio, 38 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: from TV. He was on Essays Australia and. 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: One half of American Rosso and nowadays he's drinking lots 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: of wine. He's also he also has an awesome podcast 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: which you can find on iHeartRadio. We're going to check 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: the links in the description and all that sort of stuff, 43 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: so please check out his podcast anyway. Merrick Watts, that. 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: Was pretty tense. It was pretty tense driving that car. 45 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 4: It's funny you only get to like, you know, fifty 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: sixty k's, but you get there very quickly and it 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: sounds it looks like you're going a minimle now, but 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: you're definitely on the speed limit at all times. 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll you'll load to the ground. Yet you're also 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: metaphorically so much higher than other people high state. 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 4: It's definitely high stage individual years. Yeah, but the car 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: is low profile. Yes, I said the juxtaposition there, it's excellent. Yeah, 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: five points to you. This is a competition, isn't it. Yes, 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: we have to get on the podcast, by the way, 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: because we start the podcast when I'm ready and we 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: have I have all started. Yeah, absolutely, we have welcome. Welcome, 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Driver Show with Paul and Gordi. I'm Merrick, 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: their guest. 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so here we are all crammed in a very 61 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: hot room. By the way, I have to warn you 62 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: that this room does get quite steamy, and Paul is 63 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: of Croatian descent, so he will most likely get some 64 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: sort of a bush and kind of like sort of 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: tap it on his back as if it's some sort 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: of Mediterranean sauna. 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, we all get naked. 69 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: It's funny. 70 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 4: Okay, let's just taken the turn. 71 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about Australian cars. Because I'm a big 72 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: fan of the eight stuff. I know that you've you've 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: owned GTOs, you had an XAGT as well. I saw 74 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: a picture of that. What is the what was the 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: two Hands connection. 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: This is gonna sound insane because so many of my 77 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: car purchases have been insane, and often at the time 78 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: of purchase fueled by alcohol. But like quite literally the 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: Two Hands car. 80 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: From the movie. 81 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: We purchased that because we were leaving Fox Studios, Rosso 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: and I had been to a screening or a meeting 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: or something, and we're walking out. We bumped into Gregor Jordan, 84 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: who's the director of the film Two Hands, and Ned 85 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: Kelly is a terrific guy, and we bumped into him 86 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: and we go, what are you doing with this? And 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: he has, oh, I'm trying to sell it, and there 88 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: was like a tire kick had some guy'd come along 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: and was like he was going to chop it up 90 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: for parts. And he was like you could see that 91 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: he was guardted that this piece of you know what 92 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: he fairly thought was historical Australian engineering, and also too, 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: you know, a movie film, a movie film, a movie car. 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: It's a Mulphie film, it's a movie film. 95 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: And he was like he's pretty gutted by the idea 96 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: that it might be chopped for parts, and so we 97 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: just on the spot just went, oh, let's go for 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: a drive or buy it. And he is, where are 99 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: you going to go for a drive and then buy it? Yeah, 100 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: we'll go for a drive and then buy it. And 101 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: so we went for a drive down the end of 102 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: the street and then we bought the car. Rus and 103 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: I owned a few cars collectively. What year was this, 104 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: I think it was like two thousand and four, two 105 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: thousand and five thereabouts when we bought the XA. 106 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: And how much did you pay for it? 107 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: I can't remember, but it was I think about eighteen grand. 108 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: It could be completely wrong, it could be thirty five. 109 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: I was drunk a lot, but no, I think it was. 110 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: I think it was about eighteen grand or something like that. 111 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: If you look at them today, they have just gone 112 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: through the roof. And that's even for like a replica. 113 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: Great car. Well, they call them tributes now, which I love. 114 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: It is a tribute. I think that's a porn term. 115 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 5: You'd know. 116 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: I would not know that, and that's genuine. What's interesting 117 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: about that car, though, is that it's a Ford, but 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: the paint job is actually the color is actually from Holden. 119 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: Ah just deliberate, Gregor did it deliberately? 120 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: So? 121 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Duco is a Holden Duco put on a Ford. 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Why was that a deliberate thing? 123 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: I think because he wanted to have I don't know. 124 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. 125 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: I think I think it had something to do with 126 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 4: the good and bad elements within the film or something 127 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 4: like that, you know, the character stuff. I really can't 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: I think it was definitely something to do with the film. 129 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: It was a very deliberate decision. It wasn't accidental. But 130 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: he got the car and he had it resprayed with 131 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: a holding color, and it might have just been because 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 4: it looked better and he thought that Ako, the character Accho, 133 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: would look better driving there. 134 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 5: I don't know. 135 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: So that car went to auction. Do you know where 136 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: it is today? 137 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: Got no idea. 138 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Did you ever take that down across at all? Just 139 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: for like shitting gigs? 140 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: Oh? 141 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, took the car all sorts of places, just mainly 142 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: around Sydney. I don't think I drive it. I think 143 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: I drive it out to Bathurst. 144 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did. 145 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 4: I drive it out to Bathurst. I drove it around 146 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: the mountain just because it felt like it needed to 147 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: go do some sort of spiritual connection. It was like 148 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: something there And yeah I did. I drove to Bathurst, 149 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: but I didn't drive it. 150 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 5: Long distances typically. 151 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: I used to just you know, get it out on 152 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: occasion just to be a bogan. 153 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: And were you and Rosso like it was that like 154 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: shared custody of that car. 155 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was shere custody. But I was definitely the 156 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: favorite parent. So you know, it was like a lot 157 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: of marriages. I wo'd always prefers one parent, but doesn't 158 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: tell them they car loved me, loved me, but that look, 159 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: I was kind of I was more the kind of 160 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: custodian of it in some ways. But Russo, yeah, he'd 161 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: drive it from time to times. Well, we had a 162 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: few cars we own. We had a few cars. We 163 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: had a couple of Layland Piece seventy sixers there for 164 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: a while. Why again, Like honestly, we were at a 165 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: pub one day and we were drunk, and we were 166 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: going through the auto trader on a Friday afternoon and 167 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: we saw some a pair of Layland Peace seventy six 168 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: is for sale and Queensland and we went as if 169 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: this wouldn't be the best decision ever, so we bought them. 170 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: And then the next day we'll get a phone call 171 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: from our assistant and she said, oh, by the way, 172 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: you went to lower the piece seventy six's and we went, 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: what are you drunk? And she goes, no, you were there. 174 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: We're going no, we don't know that car, but he's 175 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 4: talking about it. She said, no, you purchased them yesterday. 176 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: I've done all the paperwork. She was furious. So we're like, oh, wow, 177 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: we've got two cars with to get rid of them. 178 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: So why did you guys buy cars together? What was 179 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: the reason for that? 180 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. Both love them. 181 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: Both Russell and I love cars, Australian cars particularly, got 182 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: a passion for them, and it's less about what's actually 183 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: under the bonnet and more about what they've done socially 184 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: or what they've represented in a time or space. And 185 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: I think that's what it was. We both liked different cars, 186 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: but we also liked the same cause. Also, I had 187 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: a Citron, which you really really liked. 188 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 5: It was a DS Citron he had there for a 189 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: little while and he really liked that. 190 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: He also had an EH for a little while as well, 191 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: and he really liked those cars. 192 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 5: But neither of those cars I would purchase for himself. 193 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: I had at that time, I had a Mark one 194 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: Mustang Nice and I also had a holding gto as well, 195 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 4: So at any one point I owned about three or 196 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: four vs. This is why you should never give Bogan's cash. 197 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 4: That's what this is. 198 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: What can't You can't really do that anymore, right, Like 199 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: you look at the classic car market. It has gone 200 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: so ballistic that you can buy an absolute shit box 201 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: and it'll never run, or you can go and spend 202 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty grand on a clean club sport 203 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: or something. I think these days that's gone and it's 204 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: not the same as it used to be. Everyone's trying 205 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: to make a buck. 206 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 207 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: I mean the prices of some of those cars that 208 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: I used to admire as a kid, which were you 209 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: know at that time. You know, when I was young, 210 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: all I wanted to do was an SLR five thousand. 211 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: I just love them. 212 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: But I grew up in Eltham in Melbourne, which is 213 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: the home of Peter brock So Brocky went to my school. 214 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: So you know, Holden's and Tarana's were very popular. Yeah, 215 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: I lived well, We. 216 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: Had Bev on the show and the history is amazing 217 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: some of the stories she had about her growing up, 218 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,239 Speaker 3: but also then the life with Brockie was unbelievable, and 219 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: even the story she told about after he passed away. 220 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: She was getting a lot of requests to authenticate cars 221 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: and memory be She had one bloke that claimed he 222 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: lived in Diamond Creek and he wanted to come and 223 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: sign something that Pete had signed. 224 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: So the address was in Diamond Creek. 225 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: She's turned up and knocked on the door and ladies 226 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: answered and she's like, no, I didn't ask you to 227 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: come here. I don't know who you are, or I'd 228 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: never asked you to do anything like that. And she's like, 229 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm really confused, and starts walking back down the driveway 230 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: and this dude just pops out of the bushes with 231 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: some car park that she wanted that he wanted her 232 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: to sign. Oh wow, because he was going to flog 233 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: it off secondhand somewhere, but there was just so many 234 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: weirdos out there. 235 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sort of attached to that. But I think 236 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: growing up that's the. 237 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: Bev's foolish mistake because Diamond Creek is actually halfway between Eltham, 238 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: where Brockie went to school and where they had a 239 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: property up near Kangarooground. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's 240 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: that doesn't seem like I mean, for her, that's not 241 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: out of order at all. 242 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and I think this guy probably lived who 243 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: knows where, and he thought, well, I'm going to pick 244 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: a location where I know is near where she is, 245 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: and I'm going to go and just give this, give 246 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: this a crack. 247 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,479 Speaker 4: But Lounds is from Diamond Cracker, I think, yeah, right. 248 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: What gravitated you guys to old cars? 249 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: I think that there was a uniquely Australian element to them. 250 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: Like if you particularly for me, with muscle cars, you know, 251 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: there's really you've got sports cars and supercars from Europe. 252 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: You know, your Ferraris and Lambeous and Asta Martins and 253 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: everything else. So then you've got muscle cars. And if 254 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: you look at where muscle cars are kind of fabricated, 255 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: you've got some it's a little bit of an identity 256 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 4: there in the UK, but it's largely America and Australia. 257 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: We were really into the muscle cars, and I think 258 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: that's what I always was drawn to. That was felt Australian, 259 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: but it felt international at the same time, and it 260 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 4: felt like we were doing something that was different and 261 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: better for it. 262 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, if you look at American muscle cars, 263 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: they got terrible after sort of the late seventies eighties, 264 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: except for the Pontiac Fiber amazing, but even the nineties, 265 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: like the Mustang, the interior is just I. 266 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 4: Can tell you what it is. When Barbie started, like 267 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 4: quite literally, like you know that it's not saying Barbie 268 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: or the movie or was responsible for it, but that 269 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: styling became very, very popular, and that you know, they 270 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: weren't as obsessed by engine capacity. 271 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 5: They were all more in line with. 272 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: Thinking about petrol costs because of the time, and so 273 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: they started to reshape them and have look at them 274 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: and you look at something like the Ford Capris, you know, 275 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: the Ford Capri. When I was a kid, those early 276 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: Ford Capris were a. 277 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 5: Weapon, an absolute weapon. 278 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: And then they re released the Ford Capri and I've gone, 279 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: that looks like a. 280 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 5: Barbieco I want to say Barbecao. 281 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: I mean like an open top, kind of flat accessible coupei. 282 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: You know, that's what it was. It was less about 283 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: that hard top coupe was it was soft top. 284 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: And it was easy to get in and out. 285 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: Of and easy to. That's what happened to the fo 286 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: Capri as well. It became Barbie cars. 287 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were always like a sexy shade of 288 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: gold coast red. Why were they always red. 289 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: Because you could put your figureines in and out of them, 290 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: you know. That's what I say, Like the Barbie car 291 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: is like because it was it was not as tough 292 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: and aggressive looking they were. They still like the performance vehicle, 293 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 4: but they had lost for me, they had lost the way, 294 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: as you say, at that exact time, I just went 295 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: to shit. 296 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: So fast forward, we're moving towards an era of electric cars. 297 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: And how do you feel about electric cars. 298 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 5: I haven't got. 299 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: Really any strong opinions on them because I haven't driven them. Yep. 300 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: I think they're good, yep, I think. I mean, the 301 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: data speaks for itself. There's things fly because of the 302 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: engine drive you know, the lack of drive train. 303 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: But the. 304 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: I think that they are a good step forward generally, 305 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: but I'm not convinced that they are the best long 306 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: term option yet because what is required to manufacture an 307 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: electric vehicle, you know, precious metals particularly, and the fact 308 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: that you know, I could be misquoting somebody that I 309 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: heard on the internet or something. But I'll be bold, 310 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: but there's simply not enough precious metals on this planet 311 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: for every person to have an ev hydrogen where I reckon, 312 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: We'll go and I reckon when you start seeing everybody 313 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: knows electric cars the thing the thing, Well, then why 314 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: have massive manufacturers like BMW and others not given up 315 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: on hydrogen? 316 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: Whyt all correct? 317 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: Right, so you go, well, hang on if they'd completely 318 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: walks back and just said the hydrogen experiment was a 319 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: little bit like when Brocky got the crystals. 320 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Out the energy pulvarizer. 321 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what? 322 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: You can actually still buy those things. 323 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: Because people want them to put in their their groups. 324 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: If you actually want the original A lot of they 325 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: were stolen over that is that completes an original car, 326 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: and now they are over the moon expensive. But you 327 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: are right with electric cars if you look at some countries. 328 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: And I've said this countless times before, but when I 329 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: went to South Africa recently for a car launch, the 330 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: middle of the night, power went out for like six 331 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: hours and they still powershed for like six hours a day. 332 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: If you own an electric car, you. 333 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: Cannot own one over there because you don't know if 334 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: you're going to be able to charge it or not. 335 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: Your alternative is to use a diesel generator, which seems 336 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: intuitive to me. If you come down to Victoria, we 337 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: predominantly have coal power, and you're then charging an electric 338 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: car with coal power, which it doesn't seem intuitive as well. 339 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: So I think hydrogen still has legs. 340 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: I reckon hydrogen will see first in a kind of 341 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: commercial yes, realm and transport buses and mining stuff like that, 342 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: in a spot in hospitable locations possibly, who knows, but 343 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: I think that we'll see a combination of those two elements. 344 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: And obviously fossil fuels will eventually just remain in use 345 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: for airline travel. 346 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 347 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: And you know the other thing with fossil fuels as well. 348 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: Porsche is building an e fuel production plant in Tasmania 349 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: and in Chile, and they've got other brands working on 350 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: e fuels as well, and it's going to mean that, 351 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: especially for Porsche, if you own a Classic nine to 352 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: eleven and the future goes towards hydrogen or electric or whatever, 353 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: you're still needed fuel to run your vehicle. And to me, 354 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm excited by that because all the chipboxes I have. 355 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: I'm still going to be able to drive them on 356 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: a weekend. It will be an expensive fuel to manufacture, 357 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: and even if it's ten bucks later, I still can 358 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: stick it in the car on the car and know 359 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: that it can still make lots of sound and be fun. 360 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: So that is happening because my fear was that, Okay, 361 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: let's pretend the world moves to electric in ten fifteen years. 362 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: What I'm going to do with my vatcomitals. I want 363 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: to still be able to drive them, but I don't 364 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: want to have to have like a meth lab style 365 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: fuel action the thing at the back of my house. 366 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about EV's is I still don't 367 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: reckon we are where we should be in terms of infrastructure. 368 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: Like any charger that's that's not Tesla just feels risky. 369 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're changing a whole other network, so 370 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: you know you've got it when you're not just changing 371 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 4: a fuel source. So like when we went from leaded 372 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: petrol to unleaded petrol, they are vastly different and yet 373 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 4: they are interchangeable, whereas EV requires a whole new network 374 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: and also to you look weird when you've got like 375 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: one of my neighbors has got like an extension card 376 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: coming at the window of their house to power the 377 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: Tesla out the front. I'm just like, Okay, that's what 378 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: we're doing now, is it? 379 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 380 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's that's your power cord is across the 381 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: footpath Mark. 382 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 383 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 384 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 3: It's not an ideal solution, isn't it. What does your 385 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: car history look like in terms of first car type stuff? 386 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: What did you sort of grow up with up until 387 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: you had enough money to buy something that wasn't a 388 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: third box. I my first car was a Valiant VEG Coop. Yeah, 389 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: nice seventy model. 390 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 5: And I loved it. 391 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 392 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: Great, it was like driving a boat. But that was 393 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: my first car. And I had Coops solely and entirely 394 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: for many years. But they were a great car. And 395 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 4: I wanted a charger, and I wanted an SLR five thousand, 396 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: and I wanted lots of things. 397 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: But what I. 398 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: Had was two two hundred dollars. That's what I had, 399 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: was a Valiant. 400 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 401 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Just changing track a little bit. How long were you 402 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: guys doing breakfast radio. 403 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 5: For like ten years? Yeah? 404 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: How do you reckon things have changed for you personally 405 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: since breakfast radio times? Because I look at you now 406 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're calm, You're a smart guy, you're articulate. 407 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: But I mean when you're in the pressure cooker, that is. 408 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen some tantrums, mainly my own. 409 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 6: Don't have emotional control, thank you. No, I mean that 410 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 6: Oh okay, good, so it didn't hurt first enough. I 411 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 6: did it again, knowing. 412 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: That it would. 413 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's got Well, I am going to have 414 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: to have a look at myself. I'm just going to 415 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: go home and cry. Excuse me, guys. No, But my 416 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: point is it is an absolute rollercoaster, right. 417 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's And it's partly to do with hours, Like 418 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: you know, it's you You're not meant to be peaking 419 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: out at six am. You know, you know, it's against 420 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: your Cicadian rhythms. It is against the way your brain 421 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 4: chooses to work. And then you know you're heightened that 422 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: with an intensity in the studio and passionate people, passionate voices. 423 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: There's a lot of You've got a big bag of firecrackers, 424 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 4: and eventually one firecracker, a small fire cracker is going 425 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: to let the whole bag bower. Right, That's just the 426 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: way it works, and in hindsight, it's really easy to 427 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: see that. In hindsight, you go, oh, well, of course, 428 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 4: there's all these accumulative pressures. 429 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: And some of them are really good. 430 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 4: You know. One of the things I love about breakfast 431 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: radio is that it is pressure. I love that pressure, 432 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: like the intensity, and I like the drive. I really 433 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: enjoy that. But there's also too there's other factors involve, 434 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: and those accumulatively can set off some fireworks. But you know, 435 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: it's a great privilege to do breakfast radio. I always 436 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 4: thought that to do any radio is a great privilege. 437 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: But you know, for me, I mean, I don't it's 438 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 4: not even the hours for me now, my disciplines in 439 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: my lifestyle now are far more conducive to being able 440 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 4: to handle those sorts of pressures. I wouldn't be I 441 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 4: mean a typical day, I'm awake at quarter to five anyway, 442 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: So the hours don't make any difference to me because 443 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: I have a very set routine in the morning that 444 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: I adhere to, and it allows me to get to 445 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: this point of the day later in the day and 446 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 4: still be calm, still be focused, still be energetic, still 447 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: do all the things that I want to do and fulfill. 448 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: But I have to set that early in the morning. 449 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: I have to go through a very very long and 450 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: boring process of elements and sequence that set my mind up. 451 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 4: So I always say I work on me first, then 452 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: I work for other people second. So I work on 453 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: me in the morning and work on me daily, and 454 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: I do the things that I need to do physically, 455 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: mentally and spiritually, and then I. 456 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 5: Got to work. 457 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 4: So then when I walk into whatever situation it is, 458 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 4: I'm able to adapt and be calm and not necessarily passive. 459 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: I can dial right up, but I just have better 460 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: emotional control, which I don't reckon I have when I 461 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: was in breakfast. That was probably my greatest weakness when 462 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: I was doing breakfast is I was very very quick 463 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: to go volcanic, whereas now I just sort of see 464 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: things calmly and objectively view things and then make decisions. 465 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, great, So I'm taking notes and. 466 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: I came in and talk about cars, and I've given 467 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: you some life directors. If anything, I feel like your 468 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: new Anthony Robbins is what I am. I'll relesse the 469 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: DVD you can buy. 470 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: I know we're aman to talk about cars, but when 471 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: did that change for you. You mentioned it after you 472 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: didn't have it during breakfast radio. 473 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: When did it change? 474 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 4: I think part of it happened when I stopped doing 475 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: breakfast Radia. I think part of it happened when I 476 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: became a father. I think then I went through a 477 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: process a few years ago preparing for a television show 478 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: called Sas Australia. And that was a very very long 479 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: and difficult process for preparation which I took laser serious, 480 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: like I actually take everything in life, even fun, even comedy. 481 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: I take very very seriously. If I choose to apply 482 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: myself to something, I apply myself one hundred and ten 483 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: percent or I don't bother yeap so, and I'm very prepared. 484 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 4: So when I went on that, it was like six 485 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: to eight months worth of training in preparation before I 486 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: went in Australia. Yeah. So when I went in there, 487 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: like everyone was going, you know, the comedian he's watching 488 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 4: him is going to burn in two days. And I 489 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: was like, I will be at the end of this 490 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: and I will finish this course. There is no doubt 491 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: in my mind that I would finish this course. 492 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: You were so like I went into that show going 493 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: this is such a hilarious time because you're going to 494 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: remember it was kind of COVID and yeah, we were 495 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: handing celebrities machine guns. I saw this amazing, silly side 496 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: to the whole thing, like this is fucking amazing. You 497 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: come along and I'm like, this guy's like fall on, 498 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: that was one of the greatest things. And you were 499 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: You're right there at the very end, like it was incredible. 500 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: What. 501 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like it's a it's a physical ability, 502 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: but it's a mental practice that gets you through those 503 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: sorts of things and you know, getting you back to cars. 504 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: Like I used to care so much more about cars 505 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: and motorbikes several years ago than I do now. My 506 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: core values have changed enormously. Like if somebody said to me, 507 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: you know, you can have an five thousand, I go 508 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: obviously with a drop tank. Yeah, you know, it's it's 509 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: something that I still love, but I'm not as passionate 510 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: about owning things now as I am about doing things 511 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 4: and completing things. And that's been a big shift for me. 512 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: So I know, I had even this year, I had 513 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: two motorbikes. I sold two motorbikes. One was you know, 514 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: an old kind of classic and I just went, I'm 515 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: just not riding them. And I think if I'm not 516 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: riding them, then I'm not enjoying them. If I'm not 517 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: enjoying them, and somebody else should and that's for me, 518 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: that's what it's about. Like I said, I'm more fun 519 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: well focused on rather than I used to be. Like 520 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: I was that guy who just wanted to own twenty 521 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: five cars. Yep, I didn't care if I drove any 522 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 4: of them. I just wanted to own twenty five different cars, 523 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: and that was my higher purpose. Now I just have 524 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: a wagon. I've got an Audi a four wagon, and 525 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 4: I love it. It's like it it gets everything done for me, 526 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: and I enjoy it, you know. So I still love 527 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: driving cars, I still love I love riding motorbikes. But 528 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 4: I also like building businesses and creating new ven and 529 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 4: taking on new goals. So you know, you can't have everything. 530 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 4: You can't have all those toys and all those things 531 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: like cars and have that as you focus and give 532 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: them enough tension, because you know, a classic car is 533 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: like a child. You've got to look after it otherwise 534 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 4: you're not doing you know, duty to it. So for me, 535 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: it was like there has been a transition where I 536 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: sort of go, no, I'm more into experiencing things, creating things, 537 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 4: developing things, building things, making things than I am a 538 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: particularly unique things that I am about owning things. Having 539 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: said that, I am going to own an Aston Martin 540 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 4: one day, I just love them. 541 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: As a new one or an older one. 542 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 5: I'd like a new one please. 543 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 544 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah they look they look under British racing green just 545 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: just tan interior, just death on wheels. 546 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: Actually, did I hear something about you doing up old 547 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: posty bikes? Is that you? 548 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, with a friend of mine, Joan, we just did 549 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: it kind of like as a bit of a joke, 550 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden we had about six 551 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: of them. So there was a point there where I 552 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: owned I think eight motor bikes. So I told you, look, 553 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: you know, this is what happens when you get Bogan's money. 554 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, we used to get oh posted bikes and 555 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: then strip them out, respray them and lose some of 556 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: the undercarriage, like the prop upstand. We'd get rid of 557 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: that and just have the kickstand instead, lighting them right 558 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: down so that we literally you could carry them upstairs. 559 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 5: And they were unreal. 560 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were written up by a motor journalist and 561 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: they came in and borrowed one of the bikes and 562 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: he rang me up. At the end of the weekend, 563 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: he goes, Mate, I went, oh, no, he's crushed. They said, question, 564 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: can I keep this bike for a few more days? 565 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: Said yes, I thought he's having a lend and mate, seriously, 566 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 4: it is so much fun to write, so light and 567 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: it's easy, and it's nimble, and I put fat Kobby 568 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: tires on it so you could go roll over garters 569 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: and but you crash it, you own it. 570 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Actually, speaking of creating, one thing I know you had 571 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: a big hand in was when you're at Triple M 572 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the carbecue. 573 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: That was a great car. Somebody else owns that too, 574 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 4: but that was an x B. I think it was 575 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: an ex big yeah. And what I just had an 576 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 4: idea for making a car that could also be a barbecue, 577 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: because I thought that would be a great combination. But 578 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: I wanted it to look like the car from Mad Max. 579 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 5: Yes, that's right. 580 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: So I said, it's got to be resprayed, it's going 581 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 4: to be Matt Black, it's got to look like this. 582 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 4: And we spent a lot of money. When I say 583 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: were the radio station spent a fortune on it, but 584 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: it was actually for something we're doing with I think 585 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: it was with Meet and Livestock Australia and they were 586 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: looking for an idea and they are wonderful people to 587 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: work with and I was like, oh, well, I've got 588 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: this idea for this carbecue and they're like, oh, that's great. 589 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: And it made international news like it was on like 590 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: what's that one of the TV talk programs? I forgot 591 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: what they are. It was like a morning show in America, 592 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: the largest morning show in America was with a viewing 593 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: audience of like I think tens of minions. And I 594 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: was watching it on screen. Somebody showed me and they 595 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 4: were talking about this guy in Australia who had built 596 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 4: a barbecue in a car and how a novel was 597 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 4: like somebody regis is it regious? 598 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 5: And something like that? Anyway, watched you going, I'm that guy? 599 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: The guy they're talking about. 600 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 5: Why am I not in the shot? Why am I not. 601 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: In the shot? Why is the car in the shot? 602 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: And I'm not a shot? Yeah? 603 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: That was a cool car. Did that get all listener? 604 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: What happened with that? 605 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: No? 606 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 4: We kept it for a little while until the company 607 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: said to me, again, you've built something that's costing us money. 608 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: And we drove around a little bit for a while 609 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 4: and did some you know, some primal work, and then 610 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: eventually they flogged it off to private market and a 611 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 4: guy I think in Queensland border and he was wrapped. 612 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: But then he was again a car enthusiast. He wanted 613 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: to work on it. He wanted to look after it. 614 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: He loved the idea of it, but he wanted wanted 615 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: it for what it was. And I don't regret it 616 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: because if a car, I always think you a custodian 617 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: of a car. So have your time with it. When 618 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: you're not offering the car or anything, you should pass 619 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: it on. Yep, not about what the car is offering you. 620 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 4: If you're not offering the car, enough move it on. 621 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: So before we wrape up, what's you mentioned you liked 622 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: drinking when you were younger? 623 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: Has that finished? 624 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: Now? 625 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: Do you drink anymore? 626 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: No? 627 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: I still drink more than ever. I'm qualified wine joke. 628 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Oh yes, of course. Yeah, wine's your thing now, Semilia and. 629 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: A wine joke. Yeah, So I've got an international standard whine. 630 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: I work one of my companies is called Grapes of Mirth, 631 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: and we do lascoal comedy events and festivals in wine 632 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: regions right around the country. That's what when I left 633 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: radio went and started that. That was the reason why 634 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: I kind of wound up radio, because they've done twenty 635 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: solid years of radio and felt like I was living 636 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: in a literal fish bowl. And I started grapes some 637 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 4: myth just before I finished up on radio, and that's 638 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: what I do. You know, we run festivals and it's awesome. 639 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I drink, but I'm very, very disciplined with alcohol. 640 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: So I like, I love wine. I love wine, I 641 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: love beer spirit, I'll drink everything. But because I work 642 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: in the winers room, because I've got qualifications, because I 643 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: do occasional judging and stuff like that, I think it's 644 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: really important to have the balance around it. So I 645 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: don't drink so much, like on a Wednesday or sometimes 646 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: have wine with my wife at home. But like, I 647 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 4: won't drink tonight it's a Thursday, I won't drink tonight. 648 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: I will drink on the weekend. I probably won't drink Friday, 649 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: but I will definitely drink on Saturday. And when I 650 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: say drink, I mean fucking everything. 651 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: Your wife goes into the bathroom, where's the domestos? I 652 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: thought that was Italian wine. 653 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: I exercise and meditate every single day, right, and this 654 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: is the way I do. And this is a car 655 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: reference for you, right. I say to people during the 656 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: week I treat myself like a Rolls Royce and on 657 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: the weekend, I treat myself like a high car. 658 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: You know the concept of Grapes of Mirth is it 659 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: is so cool. Like I I've seen gigs. If you 660 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: do people have like a flight of six wines. 661 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: That's my show. So that's an idiot's gode to Wine, 662 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: which is a festival show which has been touring now 663 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: for eighteen months and is going overseas now as well. 664 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: So that's run by Grapes of Mirth. So Grapes of 665 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 4: Mirth is the larger festival event, but Grapes of Myth 666 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: is also the company and has three partners in it, 667 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: and we all work together and. 668 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 5: We perform show. Well. 669 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: I perform the show called and Need It's Got to Wine, 670 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: which is where people taste six wines throughout the course 671 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: of the show. And it's unreal. I mean, it's been 672 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: going longer than any other live show ever done. It's 673 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: completely unique in the world, and we're touring it again. 674 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: We've been overseas with it, but we're going to do 675 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: some more extensive touring with it. 676 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: It's great. 677 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: Well, and you're right, you have to find a niche 678 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: like that, and everyone, well not everyone, but people that 679 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: do comedy do comedy. Whereas if it's around a thing 680 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: or an event that people are doing like it is, 681 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 3: no one's going to come and replicate that, or if 682 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: they do, it'll be shit. 683 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 4: But I don't think that would have much trouble beating it. 684 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 4: I do the show. It's good, but like it's like 685 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: a carried away. I don't think it's that big a challenge. 686 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: But I want to get into Well, I have a 687 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: shipload of wine and I've got a neighbor that has 688 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: a shipload of it. 689 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 4: Don't you drive by the way. I will say this, 690 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: though I'm extremely extremely disciplined around booze and cars, I 691 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 4: always have it. I've never been into it. I've never 692 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: thought it was a good idea and so like I 693 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: know that you go you make jokes about it, like, 694 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: of course you make jokes about it, but I never ever, 695 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 4: ever do booze and now I'm on. 696 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: The same page. And that's the thing. 697 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: A calibrated fucking alcohol meetup. They're like one hundred bucks 698 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: and if you've had a big night, it's so easy 699 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: to just check and you'll be okay. But yeah, what 700 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: is your recommendation for someone who wants to get into 701 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: wine and get a better understanding. What is the most 702 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: effective way to get across it without having to do 703 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: a six month course? 704 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you can do like kind of lower 705 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: level courses through the school that I've went through, which 706 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: is a West Set because it's internationally recognized. You don't 707 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: have to get to my level. I hold West Set three. 708 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: But you know what, just find a wine shop and 709 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: just go and have a chat to people in the 710 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: wine shop. They love talking about wine. Go to a 711 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: winery and go roll up to the cellar door and say, 712 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: tell me about these wines. I know nothing, and they 713 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: will go They will not make you feel bad, They 714 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: will embrace you and they go, right, we're going to 715 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: start with reasoning or we really like this, and they'll 716 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: talk you through it. Wine people, and particularly wine makers 717 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 4: and people who work at cellar doors, are far less 718 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: snobby and interested in the bullshit of wine than people 719 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: think they are. They are not the people who are 720 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: going on with that stuff. It's people who work. Often 721 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 4: I find people who work in media or press or 722 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: have got some skin in it too, or usually to 723 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: some people old dudes who just want people to feel 724 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: a little less not educated, but they like the power 725 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: that they wield with their own knowledge. 726 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: But some of the. 727 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 4: Most incredible minds, like literal masters of wine, which is 728 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 4: like extremely difficult to get. It's like a professor, just 729 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: really easy going people and they just talk about it 730 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 4: in really simple terms, like you know that tastes pretty lemony. 731 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. 732 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: It's as simple as that. 733 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 5: That's because that's what's in there. 734 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: They don't bang on it and go, you know, soup 735 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: into bullshit. So yeah, just go to a bottle shop 736 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: and talk to them. 737 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 2: Yeah like the sound of that. 738 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: Not to drive through though, because I'm going to go 739 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: hang out with Dan Murphy right. 740 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 5: Now, baticalarly not at a Lamborghini. 741 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: I reckon anybody's going to be able to hear your order. 742 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: I'd like a cask of reasoning. 743 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Just chuck your box a cooler bar in the bag, 744 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: that'd be great. 745 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming in. 746 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 3: And this has been an absolute experiments. 747 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 4: Technically you've had a few issues, but you know what 748 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: your heart and your soul and then you've asked good 749 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: questions you care about. That's great, You've done your audience 750 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 4: of service. Well now I'm giving you guys seven and 751 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 4: a half. 752 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: Out of one hundred thousand. Is it is actually out 753 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: of a thousand. I got to. 754 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: Say, yeah, yeah, you go, you go. 755 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: No, I got to say. 756 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: I was really blown away by that chat, just because 757 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 3: you know, I thought, you know, I will chat cars 758 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: and stuff, but he is really he's a really switched 759 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: on guy. 760 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is. 761 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, the stuff that he was talking about, he just 762 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: is a laser focused and very intense. And yeah, I 763 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 3: was just I don't know if mesmerized is the right word. 764 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: I think at one point you took your pants off 765 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 1: and you fell quite in love. You wanted to embrace. Yeah, 766 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: legend of a bloke harm But you know, the weird 767 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: thing is I wasn't expecting him to be so I 768 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,479 Speaker 1: guess switched on back in the radio days. He's kind 769 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: of a manic dude. Like it was almost this this 770 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: this thing of chaos would come into the room. But 771 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: nowadays Merrick Watts is calm, measured, he's articulate, he's focused. 772 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: Often feels like the smartest guy in the room. Probably is, 773 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: but especially when you're in the room. Yeah, holy yeah 774 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: at your face. 775 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, that was a really awesome chat. So 776 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 3: us shoot us an email let us know what you 777 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: thought about that. Contact at the Driversshow dot com today 778 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: you if you're listening to this and you enjoyed that 779 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: chat or our chat last week with Bev Brock, please 780 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: make sure you leave five star rating for us. 781 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: We do really appreciate it. 782 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 783 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: I know we keep saying this, but we need to 784 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: give some merchandise away. 785 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: I actually got an email. Oh do you want to 786 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: read it? Yeah, let's quickly do that. 787 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 3: Okay, So let's run through some of these And I'm 788 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 3: sorry we haven't read these apt for a little while, 789 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: but this one is from Chrissy goes Hey, Gordy and Paul. 790 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 3: One of the best episodes yet with John Kodogan. Something 791 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: I'd be interested in hearing you guys talk about is 792 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: what are the best non CBT cars on the market. 793 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: Thanks, Chris. You don't have to be more. 794 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 3: Specific with that because there are stacks of them on 795 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: the market, and stacks of different segment So get back 796 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 3: in touch with us and let us know which segment 797 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: you're after. 798 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: I think that would be really nailed down price point 799 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: and everything. 800 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, another one from Craig. Hey, guys, love the show. 801 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. I just wanted to let you know a story. 802 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: He said. 803 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: I purchased a golf Life. 804 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: Wagon early last year, but in the end had to 805 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 3: wait nine months to get it and so only received 806 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: it in November. I've since changed jobs, which comes with 807 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 3: the company car. I went back to Volkswagen and asked 808 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: what they would be willing to pay for it, and 809 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: they offered thirty K, twenty k less than what he 810 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 3: paid six months ago. Their response was, when he asked 811 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: if that price was correct, that we have to make money, 812 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 3: and he goes anyway, if you don't want to test 813 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: drive of a golf Wagon, I still have one. I 814 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 3: honestly believe outside of its over aggressive safety stuff, it's 815 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: a great car. Why people get SUVs with less internal 816 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 3: space makes a little sense. 817 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: Keep up the good work. 818 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a bit of a funny one. 819 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: It's a shame he's selling it too, because I actually 820 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: think they're a great little car. 821 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think they are too, and I feel 822 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: bad that he's getting screwed around, but unfortunately that is 823 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: how the used car system works. 824 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 2: And at the moment, used car prices are going down 825 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: as well. 826 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the whole market is starting to 827 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: definitely correct itself. 828 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: Now this one's this one's great. I'm got to read 829 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: this as fast as I can. It's song lyrics just 830 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: for us. 831 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, all right, slim Shady. I think I know 832 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: what you're going to do here. We should play we 833 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: should play a little beat. In fact, I will get 834 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: our production guy, DJ Diamond Davis please. 835 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: Don't beat box. Sorry you're embarrassing, but. 836 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: I'll get him to put the beat under it. 837 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: And you do your Okay. 838 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 3: So subject was partly you still ain't called me, question mark, 839 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: and I thought this more spam. 840 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: Come on, drop the mic, let's go. 841 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: Here we go, Dear Pavel, I wrote to you, but 842 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: you still ain't calling. 843 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 7: I left my phone, my grinder link, and my Quantus 844 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 7: Frequent flyer status at the bottom. 845 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 2: I sent your two dms back in autumn. It's not 846 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: a goddam. 847 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 3: There probably was a problem with the Graham or some shit. 848 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 3: But anyways, fuck it. What's been up man? 849 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: How's your daughter? 850 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 7: My girl friend's pregnant too. I've had to be a 851 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 7: father if I have a daughter. Guess what I'm gonna 852 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 7: call it. I'm a name of Donna. I heard about 853 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 7: your comrade Gordy too. 854 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 855 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 7: I heard a friend selling his stinger too because of 856 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 7: some picture didn't want him. I know you probably hear 857 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 7: this every day, but I'm your biggest fan. I got 858 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 7: the pre pew best ship that you did with John Canogan. 859 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: I got a hard trive full of your reviews and 860 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 2: your pictures. 861 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: Man. 862 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: I like the ship you did with hell Boars too. 863 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 5: That ship was fat. 864 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 7: Anyways, I hope you get this man hit me back 865 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 7: just to chat. Truly, yours your biggest fan that was 866 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 7: from Duncan. Duncan has to get some merder. 867 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah we should. We should get a 868 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: bloody he made up for here. Maybe you and him 869 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: can do a rap battle. 870 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: That was bloody unreal. So thank you for the earbails. Guys. 871 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 3: If someone does have anything else they want to send through, 872 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 3: please do please do. 873 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: That sort of stuff is great. That is going to 874 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: get you a shit ton of merch. Yeah, please actually 875 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: do that, so duncan. 876 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to get Gordy to reach out to you 877 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 3: and get your address and stuff so he can send 878 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 3: you some of our merch. 879 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: I think that would be I love how you've just 880 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: you should play AFL. You've got a great fucking handball. 881 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 2: No, no, not sport. 882 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 3: I'll quickly I know this episode in now going forever, 883 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 3: but I'll quickly read out some feedback that we got 884 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: in ratings. Here we go, a bit of a shaky start, 885 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 3: but great now. That was from Leckford, Gordy and Paul. 886 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 3: I've been listening to The Driver's Show, to The Driver's 887 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: Show and now No I think you're What he meant 888 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: to say was I've been listening to The Drive Show 889 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: and now The Driver's Show since it started. I have 890 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 3: to say there were times at the start I was 891 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: going to unsubscribe, thinking it was a bit crass and 892 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: I was expecting another car expert podcast. 893 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: Yesh, I wondered. 894 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: An actual automotive experience. 895 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: However, I have to say the change. 896 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 3: Of format, including guests like John Kdogan in the last 897 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: episode and Brendan Jones the one before I got me sold. 898 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: It's still very lighthearted and crass at times, but it's 899 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 3: a lot more enjoyable and entertaining. Keep up the good work, 900 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: and the odd mention of Donna still makes me laugh. 901 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 3: Another one from zot zot good blend, four stars only 902 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 3: how about we changed that to a five? Mate wrote nice, 903 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: She wrote nice blend. They wrote a nice blend of 904 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: banter and info that I actually find useful and interesting. 905 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: Episode with Paul Cardigan switches me. 906 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 3: Away from pure EV's a few John and then I'll 907 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 3: rebomber out here. Two more actually, one from Mardy three 908 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: one ninety five my favorite podcast. Eagerly look forward to 909 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 3: this dropping every fortnight. And then last one I read 910 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 3: out from Toby the Great okayv title legends. Uh huh 911 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: yep present awesome podcasts. Keep up the great work, way 912 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 3: better than the lame at Drive podcast. 913 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: Now hang on. I will not have a bad word 914 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: said about our colleagues. 915 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 3: No, mainly because of legal issues. But yes I didn't 916 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: say that. 917 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 918 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 2: I've run out of money. This was a fun show. 919 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: Fuck up Scalore. Yes, thank you for listening, and please 920 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: leave us five stars and get in touch. 921 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: Probably won't after you okay,