Speaker 1: It's me the dazzling out simone, checking in for my
Speaker 1: charity work shift, charting a spotlight on the most sparkly folk. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll give back to the world by speaking to sometimes
Speaker 1: very normal people, but I so selflessly use my time
Speaker 1: to uncover the extraordinary behind these ordinary types. All right,
Speaker 1: time to start my shift and meet today's normy Rall. Hi.
Speaker 2: My name is Matt. I'm from just outside London, but
Speaker 2: I've lived in Perth over twenty years. I've previously worked
Speaker 2: as a club DJ, at TV presenter and radio announcer,
Speaker 2: and bookmakers have actually issued of a thousand, one thousand
Speaker 2: to one for me to play the next James Bots
Speaker 2: James Bond. I enjoy foil surfing, wing falling, pretty much
Speaker 2: any other beach and ocean activity. But I I'm concealing
Speaker 2: something about myself where I'm usually front and center, but
Speaker 2: not the stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hollo man, how you going here today? How what's
Speaker 1: going on over there? Oh?
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it's sunny, it's lovely. I've had to stroll
Speaker 2: down the beach already.
Speaker 1: So you've lived a thousand lives, it seems already. Club DJ,
Speaker 1: TV presenter, radio announcer. Possibly maybe not James Bond, but
Speaker 1: you know, there may be bad odds, but it could
Speaker 1: still happen. Are you hiding? Are you running from something?
Speaker 1: Are you running from the law? Why have you had
Speaker 1: so many different lives?
Speaker 2: That's it? You know, I crash a burn at a
Speaker 2: certain time. I have to reinvent myself. No opportunities present themselves,
Speaker 2: and I you know, I just I like to explore opportunities,
Speaker 2: and I like to make sure I've done all the
Speaker 2: things that I've had in my mind that I want
Speaker 2: to do, and so sometimes you just have to kind
Speaker 2: of blow everything else up and start again. So I've
Speaker 2: done that a number of times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now Perth, you're formerly from just outside of London.
Speaker 1: Very cool spectacles, Might I say thank you? That are
Speaker 1: very very fun. They look like a cartoon drawing. Are
Speaker 1: they functional or just fashionable?
Speaker 2: No, they are functionable. Without them, I do find it
Speaker 2: very hard to see you know, your exquisite detail, and
Speaker 2: that was something that I needed to make sure was
Speaker 2: one hundred percent locked in for this pod.
Speaker 1: So well, I know it is very important that you
Speaker 1: see my beautiful vizage here. Now you've said foiling what
Speaker 1: surf foiling, foiling, What do you put foil on a surfboard?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: What that is? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a relatively new sport. I surf for over
Speaker 2: twenty years, since since I moved to Australia I started serving.
Speaker 2: And then there's there's something which looks vaging like an
Speaker 2: aeroplane wing that you kind of stick on underneath a surfboard.
Speaker 2: Is called a hydrofoil. You pop it under there and
Speaker 2: it kind of lifts the board out of the water slightly.
Speaker 1: All right, So running from the law future foil fashions, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: very important things to me, all right, yep, okay, just
Speaker 1: making my picture here. Now, what I'm going to do
Speaker 1: is ask you three questions, and from the answers to
Speaker 1: those three questions, I'm going to try and work out
Speaker 1: what it is you're concealing from me here today. So
Speaker 1: first question I have for you is, all right, you're
Speaker 1: going to go climb them out and you're out of
Speaker 1: the water. Yep, Okay, we're climbing a mountain instead. What
Speaker 1: is one item you want to take with you?
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm actually using them right now. I'm going to
Speaker 2: take some earbuds, but I'll obviously have to. I'll twin
Speaker 2: it with a playlist of absolute dance floor bangers, because
Speaker 2: I reckon if I'm climbing a mountain. I've walked on mountains.
Speaker 2: It's a struggle, and it's I don't know why you
Speaker 2: really want to put yourself through that. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to need something to get me through it. And I
Speaker 2: think music has that like suggestive ability to change the
Speaker 2: way you feel. So I'm going to have a big
Speaker 2: pump up dance floor bangers playlist which will really, you know,
Speaker 2: give me that woomph to get up that mountain.
Speaker 1: Okay, motivational music, Okay, things in your ears?
Speaker 3: Question number two?
Speaker 1: All right, you were saying some lovely things about me,
Speaker 1: But what is the best compliment you've ever received? Oh?
Speaker 2: Do you know what? It's lovely to rid for seed compliments,
Speaker 2: isn't it. I'm not sure it's the best one. It
Speaker 2: was just like a very memorable one, Mike. Mike Tyson
Speaker 2: actually told me I was amazing. It was quite scary,
Speaker 2: to be quite honest, but it was also quite nice.
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1: Maybe this third question not really helped me out because
Speaker 1: I'm really suiting blanks here today even chrest number three
Speaker 1: is okay. Besides me again, I was the last thing
Speaker 1: that made you laugh very very hard.
Speaker 2: Okay. So with what I do, this will sound weird.
Speaker 2: But when I was doing that thing I do recently,
Speaker 2: people sometimes become a penguin or penguins. Normally that's pretty
Speaker 2: funny because they're kind of just like waddling around. But
Speaker 2: recently someone fully committed and did a full on run,
Speaker 2: jump and belly slide across the length of the stage
Speaker 2: I was on at the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, so someone did a bally flop on this
Speaker 1: on the stage.
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
Speaker 1: Right, so you're on a stage, you're like good music.
Speaker 1: Some mirk tys and said you're amazing, but you you're
Speaker 1: You already told me you've been into club DJ, so
Speaker 1: it can't be that you're a DJ. You say, people
Speaker 1: want me become penguins, penguins, belly flops, water water okay,
Speaker 1: London James Bond, animals, belly flop, motivations, climbing a mountain.
Speaker 2: I love the way you're trying to connect all these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really rea Okay, the only thing that I
Speaker 1: have in my head and it's not right.
Speaker 3: Are you a zoomba instructor? What do you think? Well,
Speaker 3: you're motivating them and getting up the thing.
Speaker 1: And maybe Mark Tyson went to one of your zumba
Speaker 1: classes and then you know, maybe one of your moves
Speaker 1: is the penguin. But someone just said, oh no, I
Speaker 1: belly flopped and they fell over. Maybe you're a zomber instructure.
Speaker 2: I am a stage hypnotist. I performed comedy hypnosis shows
Speaker 2: all over the world. Very silly things happened over the years.
Speaker 2: I've used hypnosis to help people quld smoke, eliminate their anxiety,
Speaker 2: remove their phobias, day to day, night by night, I'm
Speaker 2: on the stage.
Speaker 1: I'm scared. Now are the glasses there? Just so I
Speaker 1: really have to look into your eyes? They pull focus?
Speaker 1: Is that why?
Speaker 2: It's that barrier? No, No, it's that barrier. It's like
Speaker 2: a protective barrier between me and you. We're going to
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 1: So how through all the things you've done, how did
Speaker 1: you get into humanotism?
Speaker 2: Do you know what? I did? One term at Hogwarts?
Speaker 2: Harry Potter was in the other classroom and I no,
Speaker 2: do you know what? It was? One of those things
Speaker 2: I've always been fascinated with how the mind works. And
Speaker 2: I've always had some kind of like one toe in
Speaker 2: the entertainment world for everything I've done. And I saw
Speaker 2: a hypnotist doing the show, and I thought I could
Speaker 2: probably do that, and so I kind of went out
Speaker 2: to try and find how I could do that, and
Speaker 2: ye know what the psychology behind it was. And yeah,
Speaker 2: then I put a show together and started rolling down
Speaker 2: and see what would happen, and then you know, things
Speaker 2: snow would very quickly.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you just said, oh, I could do that,
Speaker 1: and then you just put a show together and it worked.
Speaker 1: There must be something in between besides your terms at Hogwarts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, obviously, you know. I delved into it. Wasn't
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, oh, I think I could do that,
Speaker 2: and the next week I was doing it. So no,
Speaker 2: I delved into it. I was like reading up old
Speaker 2: books about hypnosis. I was talking to hypnoties. I was
Speaker 2: trying to get my hands on any training I could
Speaker 2: get anywhere, like looking at shows. To be quite honest,
Speaker 2: when I initially saw shows, I didn't I loved the
Speaker 2: idea of it. I wasn't overly keen on the presentation
Speaker 2: it always seemed to be more about making fun of people.
Speaker 2: But I kind of always thought, you know, instead of
Speaker 2: being in the audience and looking at what's going on
Speaker 2: stage and laughing and thinking, oh, it's funny, but I'm
Speaker 2: glad I'm not up there, wouldn't it be better if
Speaker 2: you sat in the audience laughing, going oh wish it
Speaker 2: was me up there? You know, it looks so much fun.
Speaker 2: So that that's the approach I've had to it, And
Speaker 2: so I kind of use the basic template of how
Speaker 2: hypnotists were doing shows, but I guess modernized it a
Speaker 2: lot more. You know, we get get away from the
Speaker 2: swinging watches and the weird spirals and the strange stairs
Speaker 2: because you know, we all kind of go into trancel
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: So did you start practicing on friends or people or strangers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, friends would be like did that work? Have it now?
Speaker 3: Did it work?
Speaker 2: It worked? It worked sometimes, And that's the thing it was.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a numbers game, but the first time
Speaker 2: it works properly, you just kind of think, oh, well
Speaker 2: it does work. It's a little bit surprising, and you're thinking, wow, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, there's something in it, and it's interesting when
Speaker 2: I was doing that kind of you know, starting you
Speaker 2: were just kind of mucking around with friends at parties
Speaker 2: and around your house, that kind of thing. But when
Speaker 2: you actually do your first show, you're almost like it's
Speaker 2: almost like you got your fingers crossed behind your back, thinking,
Speaker 2: geez a, I hope this works, because realistically, there's no
Speaker 2: real practice for your first show except doing the first show,
Speaker 2: because you know, until you get you know, twenty bodies
Speaker 2: in those seats and actually do that thing, that's the
Speaker 2: first time you're doing it, you know, on a stage
Speaker 2: for real, and it's you know, there's no real practice
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: So you've studied up on it, you've given it a shot,
Speaker 1: it's going it's working. Well, how does the hypnotism actually work?
Speaker 1: Because what I know I haven't I don't know very much.
Speaker 1: But what I've absorbed is that it's kind of no
Speaker 1: one's going to do anything that you tell them to
Speaker 1: do unless they're kind of open to wanting to do
Speaker 1: it in the first place.
Speaker 3: That is that true?
Speaker 2: Yah, It's true because you're not you're not in another world,
Speaker 2: you're not zoombead, you're not unaware of what's going on.
Speaker 2: And the way I explain it. I always say it's
Speaker 2: like focusing on a thought so much it starts to
Speaker 2: feel real in that moment. And when people are thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could do that, Well, we
Speaker 2: do it all the time. You know, if you watch
Speaker 2: a sad movie and the dog dies, you can actually cry,
Speaker 2: but you know that dog is actually still running around
Speaker 2: earning zona ten thousand dollars a movie. But in that
Speaker 2: moment when that happens, it feels real. You know, your
Speaker 2: brain makes it feel real. You know, when you're dreaming
Speaker 2: and you dream you're falling and you suddenly all kind
Speaker 2: of wake yourself up or and like that, that's your
Speaker 2: brain making it feel real in the moment. So we
Speaker 2: do it all the time, and so I kind of
Speaker 2: like move that state of mind to happen on purpose
Speaker 2: on the stage.
Speaker 1: This just so much mystery behind it all, because it
Speaker 1: just doesn't how does it. How do you just get
Speaker 1: a stranger up and convince them to do whatever you're
Speaker 1: telling them to do.
Speaker 3: It's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what happens is when you see on
Speaker 2: movies and TV, you don't really see the process. All
Speaker 2: you see is someone going, oh, I'm sleep you know,
Speaker 2: it looks crazy, it looks so unrealistic. But you know,
Speaker 2: even when I do TV work, we're actually not allowed
Speaker 2: to show the hypnotic part that precedes kind of the result.
Speaker 2: So you might see the quick bit, but that quick
Speaker 2: bit happens after we've you know, had a little bit
Speaker 2: of prep with a person, taken them through that nice
Speaker 2: relaxing you know, kind of stay focus on this, take
Speaker 2: a deeper thing just and we're starting to kind of
Speaker 2: disengage their mind from everything else going on around them
Speaker 2: and starting to focus their imagination inwards. So in that
Speaker 2: process that happens kind of off screen. If you see it
Speaker 2: on TV or the movies, it's just crazy anyway. But
Speaker 2: when we do it on stage and in a show,
Speaker 2: you know that that part happens on the stage and
Speaker 2: you see that process and for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: because I don't want it to be mysterious, I don't
Speaker 2: want it to be weird. I think hypnotis of years
Speaker 2: gone by, that kind of cliche style they used to
Speaker 2: make all this was a weird power I was born with,
Speaker 2: or you know, this is full of mystery. I could
Speaker 2: and I like, now it's that's complete rubbish, you know,
Speaker 2: it's basic psychology. It's imagination, it's focus, it's concentration, and
Speaker 2: so you know, I like to kind of make sure
Speaker 2: that the audience can really follow along that process when
Speaker 2: we do it on stage. But it kind of almost
Speaker 2: makes sense now because you know, we're so much more
Speaker 2: in tune with yoga, mindfulness, meditation, that kind of thing,
Speaker 2: so that you know, I have so many people who
Speaker 2: come off the stage after was going, oh man, that
Speaker 2: was wild. But it was like when you did that
Speaker 2: first part. Oh, it was just like when I'm at
Speaker 2: yoga and the instructors doing our thing at the beginning.
Speaker 2: So we're starting to become much more not aware, but
Speaker 2: much more used to this. This using the state of mind.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's almost a form of manifestation. If you just
Speaker 1: think about it so much, it just it would just
Speaker 1: happened coming up. Why's even networks are fearful of airing
Speaker 1: the full process of hypnosis. Matt goes one on one
Speaker 1: with Mike Tyson, and by the end of this episode,
Speaker 1: you will have all the skills you need to hypnotize
Speaker 1: anyone in your life. So he wouldn't mad the hypnotist,
Speaker 1: And why can't you show the full process of hypnosis.
Speaker 1: Why can you only just show the fast bit on TV?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting. I think you should be able to.
Speaker 2: But I think what it is is that they think
Speaker 2: that people could watch this and then become hypnotized at home,
Speaker 2: and then that Hollywood thing plays into their minds, like,
Speaker 2: oh what if these people are sat hypnotized at home
Speaker 2: and they'll never get out of hypnotal, which is just rubbish, right,
Speaker 2: But you know, there's that kind of thought process that
Speaker 2: you know, you can't do that in case someone's yet
Speaker 2: driving along and they're listening and then sudden they get
Speaker 2: hypotized in their car. So you know, there's a level
Speaker 2: of credibility to that. But I think that's an overcautious
Speaker 2: thing to do, you know. I mean I do shows
Speaker 2: with hundreds of people in the audience, and we don't
Speaker 2: suddenly have like a hundred people in the audience. You know,
Speaker 2: you zomked out by the end of the show because
Speaker 2: they happen to be in the same room as hypnosis
Speaker 2: was happening.
Speaker 1: I know, I think you're beginning to be a bit
Speaker 1: closer to James Bond than you think, because if you're
Speaker 1: just hypnotizing people, people are obviously scared of you. They're scared,
Speaker 1: they're terrified. The government scared of you. You know, the
Speaker 1: TV networks are scared of you. You've got power. Maybe
Speaker 1: you'll be the next villain on the Bond series instead.
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that. Do you have an e
Speaker 2: villain name for me?
Speaker 1: Hypno Guy doesn't sound really good, But so you said that,
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson said, you're amazing. Please explain, Please tell me
Speaker 1: the real story.
Speaker 2: Now, that was a really weird momented time. A number
Speaker 2: of years ago. I was in Vegas doing some Hypno
Speaker 2: stuff over there, and I went out for lunch, and
Speaker 2: then across the way from where I was having lunch
Speaker 2: there was Mike Tyson was doing some kind of signing
Speaker 2: in some memorabilia shop. So I thought, wouldn't it be
Speaker 2: fun if I go in and try and do something
Speaker 2: with him, So basically, you know, the mind I tried
Speaker 2: to show me, you know, try to do the next thing.
Speaker 2: But I actually walked round to the other side and
Speaker 2: sat down, stuck my hand out, said Mike, look up here,
Speaker 2: look me in the eye right now. So I've now
Speaker 2: got his hat, so only his mind is kind of
Speaker 2: what's going on and I just thought, look, I'm either
Speaker 2: going to get absolutely wallopped here or or taken out
Speaker 2: or whatever, but either that would be a good story. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: right right, yes, you know we're thinking the same right, so,
Speaker 2: so good story either way. So you know, I kind
Speaker 2: of end up doing a couple of funny little things
Speaker 2: where I'm looking at that say do this, say this,
Speaker 2: and then you know, next thing is yelling at the
Speaker 2: top of his voice and yeah, you're amazing, You're going
Speaker 2: to take over the world, this kind of thing. And
Speaker 2: then at that point the handler moved in and said,
Speaker 2: you've got to get out of here.
Speaker 3: Can you please leave? Thank you.
Speaker 1: What is the community like? Is it a rather small community?
Speaker 1: And if so, are there are there any impostors? Do
Speaker 1: you think are any rumors of impostors who aren't actually
Speaker 1: very good at hypnotizing, but they you know, maybe just
Speaker 1: put a plant in there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I like drama, I
Speaker 3: love gossip.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's look, it's such a small community. There's I mean,
Speaker 2: there's really only a handful of in Australia who would
Speaker 2: be doing this full time, and so you know, we
Speaker 2: kind of get to know each other. But I mean,
Speaker 2: as for you know, what you say, impostor, I don't
Speaker 2: think there'd be anyone out there willingly being an impostor.
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, there's hobbyists who are trying to
Speaker 2: trying to make it happen. But as for a plants,
Speaker 2: you just don't need it because if you if you
Speaker 2: do a show that's good enough where you are able
Speaker 2: to first of all, get you know, twenty people to
Speaker 2: want to take part in your show initially. Well then
Speaker 2: out that twenty people, you're always going to get a
Speaker 2: number of people who are going to be great, you know,
Speaker 2: at being very highly suggestible. They've already used their mind
Speaker 2: for similar things in the past, so it's it feels
Speaker 2: natural and normal to them. And there are a section
Speaker 2: of the of people in general who are just naturally,
Speaker 2: you know, susceptible to be very good at this. We
Speaker 2: called a somnambulis that's like very hypnotizable, and so there's
Speaker 2: that across all walks of life anyway. So it's a
Speaker 2: bit of a numbers game obviously, you know, the better
Speaker 2: you are at your processes and that you're going to
Speaker 2: get more out of the people. But I guess even
Speaker 2: with a bad show. You'd probably be able to get
Speaker 2: enough to make a show happen.
Speaker 3: What do you say, sabam a mammalilis?
Speaker 2: I like that word better. I like that word better. Somnambulist.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, somnambulist. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What are the identifying qualities of a somnambulus?
Speaker 3: Can you?
Speaker 2: Can?
Speaker 3: You just look at them and go, you come up here,
Speaker 3: you'll be good.
Speaker 2: Not not really, I mean I can definitely, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're talking about hypnosis and someone's like completely fascinating,
Speaker 2: they're just like they're just hanging on every word. They're
Speaker 2: definitely a few steps along the way and there, you know,
Speaker 2: and like you joked earlier, it's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: don't look in my eyes that kind of thing. I
Speaker 2: do get that a lot, which for some people, for
Speaker 2: most people is a bit of a joke. But there
Speaker 2: are some people who genuinely think that, you know, if
Speaker 2: they look at me, something's going to happen. So they're
Speaker 2: already talking themselves into that. And what I love doing
Speaker 2: with those people is basically if someone goes, oh, you're
Speaker 2: not doing something already, are you, And I just love
Speaker 2: to tap them gently on the shower and go No,
Speaker 2: of course not and just kind of really build on that.
Speaker 2: I'm written, build on that.
Speaker 1: But it's lighting down. That's very good, guess lighting. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens when things don't go to the plan? No
Speaker 1: show is going to be the same, right, They're going
Speaker 1: to be different every time. How do you learn to
Speaker 1: adapt with that? And what's B mode versus C mode
Speaker 1: versus you know, set the place on fire and run out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's great. It's great because obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: you've got fifteen twenty people on stage, you've never worked
Speaker 2: with them before. Some people act on a suggestion one way,
Speaker 2: something like act on it another way. It's not like
Speaker 2: what happens when things don't go the way you know,
Speaker 2: on those rare occasions, it's almost like every night, it's
Speaker 2: every night something different happens, and so it's it's a
Speaker 2: bit improvy style, I guess really, you know, because you'll
Speaker 2: start to you know, you will bounce off what happens,
Speaker 2: you know in that show. So if someone gets up
Speaker 2: and does the most ridiculous dance you've ever done, even
Speaker 2: though the suggestion was like get up and be whatever
Speaker 2: the station was, but then suddenly they're doing a dance
Speaker 2: that the audience thinks is hilarious, Well, we're going to
Speaker 2: use that again later in the show, or you know
Speaker 2: that we'll kind of build on that. So if they
Speaker 2: say something, do something that's not quite expected but it
Speaker 2: works really well, well we're going to build on that.
Speaker 2: If it's just totally unexpected and it doesn't add anything
Speaker 2: extra to the show, just kind of move on to
Speaker 2: the next thing.
Speaker 1: So what is the difference between a hypnotist and a
Speaker 1: hypnot therapist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. So essentially both have
Speaker 2: the skills to hypnotize people, you know, and we're using
Speaker 2: what we might call a hypnotic induction, which is that
Speaker 2: kind of process where that gets you relaxed and focused
Speaker 2: us your imagination and really kind of disconnecting from kind
Speaker 2: of externally so you can really focus on, you know
Speaker 2: what the hypnosis saying. Obviously, with the hypnotherapy, we're working
Speaker 2: on people one on one to get to a certain
Speaker 2: result they're trying to get to. Now, whether it's you know,
Speaker 2: curing a fear of spiders, or whether it's a quit
Speaker 2: smoking or more or more commonly now to quit vaping.
Speaker 2: Your mind has got a certain program that's been running.
Speaker 2: It's either a program you've accidentally taught, it's taught you
Speaker 2: to do, like smoking or vaping. You know you've you've
Speaker 2: done it so many times that your brain kind of
Speaker 2: switches off and goes, oh, don't worry, I'll run that
Speaker 2: program for you. But then the day you think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, my health isn't good smoking or vaping.
Speaker 2: I want to stop, but that program still running, which
Speaker 2: kind of makes you grab the vape or grab the smoke. So,
Speaker 2: you know, we kind of show you the ways that
Speaker 2: you can use your mind to kind of adjust that program,
Speaker 2: same as you know, irrational phobias and fears.
Speaker 1: I guess technically a hypnotherapist could do what you do,
Speaker 1: but probably wouldn't do it very well.
Speaker 2: Or Yeah, so actually this is a really good thing
Speaker 2: because I think if you're already a performer and the entertainer,
Speaker 2: you're used to the stage and people and you know,
Speaker 2: engaging crowds and things like that, it's much easier to
Speaker 2: pin hypnosis skill skills on an existing performer show than
Speaker 2: it is to kind of like have the hypnosis skills
Speaker 2: but then teach the performance side someone like yourself. Natural entertainer,
Speaker 2: you know, born performer, right, you know it's it's it
Speaker 2: just comes naturally.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you've told me that because now I
Speaker 1: don't have to become a hypnotherapist. I can become a
Speaker 1: stage hypnotist. So because I'm really.
Speaker 3: Natural on the stage, you know, I light up a room.
Speaker 3: Love me.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering if you could give me some
Speaker 1: pointers on how I would hypnotize someone.
Speaker 2: Yep, nice and easy. You're just gonna close your eyes
Speaker 2: because that takes out a lot of other visual stimuli
Speaker 2: going into your mind.
Speaker 3: Close your eyes, Okay.
Speaker 1: I usually prefer people to have their eyes closed when
Speaker 1: they're watching me on stage anyway, So that works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 2: We're working halfway there. Tick excellent, tick, and then just
Speaker 2: some basic things. You're just going to start to get
Speaker 2: people disconnecting from what's going on around so you're going
Speaker 2: to start to direct their imagination in different places. So
Speaker 2: at the start, it's just like, imagine the way that
Speaker 2: your hand is just like resting on your lap there. Now,
Speaker 2: direct your direct your mind to your foot, and you
Speaker 2: just feel what that feels underneath you. Because what's happening
Speaker 2: there is they can't at the same and then think
Speaker 2: of like, oh, there's four hundred people watching me out
Speaker 2: there and blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know,
Speaker 2: you're busying their mind with something else, and so you
Speaker 2: can then start to put much more developed things to
Speaker 2: imagine into their mind. That's it.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought what I could do. I could do
Speaker 1: heads down, thumbs up. I think that'd be really handy.
Speaker 1: So everyone put your heads down thumbs up, because we
Speaker 1: all know that from primary school. So I think that'd
Speaker 1: be really good. Yes, just you know they yeah, and
Speaker 1: they heads of down so they can't see, so they're
Speaker 1: all right. So I've got them with their heads down,
Speaker 1: their thumbs are up there, they're now They're minds are
Speaker 1: now not thinking about anything except for the thumbs and
Speaker 1: the heads. How do I then insert a new suggestion
Speaker 1: for a sub it's a good a person that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for one of those for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you can literally then just go straight into it.
Speaker 2: Like the other fact, do you.
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Speaker 2: Right now here. I'm there right now. So you are
Speaker 2: a natural? You were a natural?
Speaker 1: So that was Matt the hypnotist and not the zombra
Speaker 1: instructor but us. That's all one new skills to the test.
Speaker 2: You are getting.
Speaker 1: Sleepy, size sleepy. And when I click my fingers you
Speaker 1: won't click that follow BT and also Jenny, now I'm nodding.
Speaker 2: I look on the socials.
Speaker 3: Did it work? Concealed with that? Simon is an iHeart
Speaker 3: production