WEBVTT - The Name's (Not) Bond, James Bond 🤵

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<v Speaker 1>It's me the dazzling out simone, checking in for my

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<v Speaker 1>charity work shift, charting a spotlight on the most sparkly folk. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give back to the world by speaking to sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>very normal people, but I so selflessly use my time

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<v Speaker 1>to uncover the extraordinary behind these ordinary types. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>time to start my shift and meet today's normy Rall. Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Matt. I'm from just outside London, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've lived in Perth over twenty years. I've previously worked

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<v Speaker 2>as a club DJ, at TV presenter and radio announcer,

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<v Speaker 2>and bookmakers have actually issued of a thousand, one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>to one for me to play the next James Bots

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<v Speaker 2>James Bond. I enjoy foil surfing, wing falling, pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>any other beach and ocean activity. But I I'm concealing

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<v Speaker 2>something about myself where I'm usually front and center, but

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<v Speaker 2>not the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Hollo man, how you going here today? How what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on over there? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful, it's sunny, it's lovely. I've had to stroll

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<v Speaker 2>down the beach already.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've lived a thousand lives, it seems already. Club DJ,

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<v Speaker 1>TV presenter, radio announcer. Possibly maybe not James Bond, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there may be bad odds, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>still happen. Are you hiding? Are you running from something?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you running from the law? Why have you had

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<v Speaker 1>so many different lives?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it? You know, I crash a burn at a

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<v Speaker 2>certain time. I have to reinvent myself. No opportunities present themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and I you know, I just I like to explore opportunities,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like to make sure I've done all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I've had in my mind that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and so sometimes you just have to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of blow everything else up and start again. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>done that a number of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now Perth, you're formerly from just outside of London.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool spectacles, Might I say thank you? That are

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<v Speaker 1>very very fun. They look like a cartoon drawing. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they functional or just fashionable?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they are functionable. Without them, I do find it

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<v Speaker 2>very hard to see you know, your exquisite detail, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was something that I needed to make sure was

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent locked in for this pod.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I know it is very important that you

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<v Speaker 1>see my beautiful vizage here. Now you've said foiling what

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<v Speaker 1>surf foiling, foiling, What do you put foil on a surfboard?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>What that is? I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a relatively new sport. I surf for over

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, since since I moved to Australia I started serving.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's there's something which looks vaging like an

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<v Speaker 2>aeroplane wing that you kind of stick on underneath a surfboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Is called a hydrofoil. You pop it under there and

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of lifts the board out of the water slightly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So running from the law future foil fashions, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very important things to me, all right, yep, okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>making my picture here. Now, what I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>is ask you three questions, and from the answers to

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<v Speaker 1>those three questions, I'm going to try and work out

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<v Speaker 1>what it is you're concealing from me here today. So

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<v Speaker 1>first question I have for you is, all right, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go climb them out and you're out of

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<v Speaker 1>the water. Yep, Okay, we're climbing a mountain instead. What

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<v Speaker 1>is one item you want to take with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I'm actually using them right now. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>take some earbuds, but I'll obviously have to. I'll twin

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<v Speaker 2>it with a playlist of absolute dance floor bangers, because

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon if I'm climbing a mountain. I've walked on mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a struggle, and it's I don't know why you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to put yourself through that. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to need something to get me through it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think music has that like suggestive ability to change the

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<v Speaker 2>way you feel. So I'm going to have a big

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<v Speaker 2>pump up dance floor bangers playlist which will really, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give me that woomph to get up that mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, motivational music, Okay, things in your ears?

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<v Speaker 3>Question number two?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you were saying some lovely things about me,

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<v Speaker 1>But what is the best compliment you've ever received? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what? It's lovely to rid for seed compliments,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. I'm not sure it's the best one. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just like a very memorable one, Mike. Mike Tyson

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<v Speaker 2>actually told me I was amazing. It was quite scary,

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<v Speaker 2>to be quite honest, but it was also quite nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Tyson.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this third question not really helped me out because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really suiting blanks here today even chrest number three

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<v Speaker 1>is okay. Besides me again, I was the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>that made you laugh very very hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So with what I do, this will sound weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was doing that thing I do recently,

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<v Speaker 2>people sometimes become a penguin or penguins. Normally that's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>funny because they're kind of just like waddling around. But

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<v Speaker 2>recently someone fully committed and did a full on run,

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<v Speaker 2>jump and belly slide across the length of the stage

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<v Speaker 2>I was on at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, so someone did a bally flop on this

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<v Speaker 1>on the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so you're on a stage, you're like good music.

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<v Speaker 1>Some mirk tys and said you're amazing, but you you're

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<v Speaker 1>You already told me you've been into club DJ, so

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be that you're a DJ. You say, people

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<v Speaker 1>want me become penguins, penguins, belly flops, water water okay,

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<v Speaker 1>London James Bond, animals, belly flop, motivations, climbing a mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way you're trying to connect all these.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm really rea Okay, the only thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>have in my head and it's not right.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a zoomba instructor? What do you think? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're motivating them and getting up the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe Mark Tyson went to one of your zumba

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<v Speaker 1>classes and then you know, maybe one of your moves

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<v Speaker 1>is the penguin. But someone just said, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 1>belly flopped and they fell over. Maybe you're a zomber instructure.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a stage hypnotist. I performed comedy hypnosis shows

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world. Very silly things happened over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've used hypnosis to help people quld smoke, eliminate their anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>remove their phobias, day to day, night by night, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared. Now are the glasses there? Just so I

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<v Speaker 1>really have to look into your eyes? They pull focus?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that why?

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<v Speaker 2>It's that barrier? No, No, it's that barrier. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a protective barrier between me and you. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So how through all the things you've done, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you get into humanotism?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what? I did? One term at Hogwarts?

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<v Speaker 2>Harry Potter was in the other classroom and I no,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what? It was? One of those things

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been fascinated with how the mind works. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've always had some kind of like one toe in

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<v Speaker 2>the entertainment world for everything I've done. And I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a hypnotist doing the show, and I thought I could

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<v Speaker 2>probably do that, and so I kind of went out

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<v Speaker 2>to try and find how I could do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>ye know what the psychology behind it was. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>then I put a show together and started rolling down

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<v Speaker 2>and see what would happen, and then you know, things

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<v Speaker 2>snow would very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying you just said, oh, I could do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just put a show together and it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>There must be something in between besides your terms at Hogwarts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, obviously, you know. I delved into it. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like, oh, I think I could do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the next week I was doing it. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>I delved into it. I was like reading up old

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<v Speaker 2>books about hypnosis. I was talking to hypnoties. I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get my hands on any training I could

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<v Speaker 2>get anywhere, like looking at shows. To be quite honest,

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<v Speaker 2>when I initially saw shows, I didn't I loved the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of it. I wasn't overly keen on the presentation

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<v Speaker 2>it always seemed to be more about making fun of people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I kind of always thought, you know, instead of

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<v Speaker 2>being in the audience and looking at what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>stage and laughing and thinking, oh, it's funny, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad I'm not up there, wouldn't it be better if

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<v Speaker 2>you sat in the audience laughing, going oh wish it

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<v Speaker 2>was me up there? You know, it looks so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that's the approach I've had to it, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I kind of use the basic template of how

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<v Speaker 2>hypnotists were doing shows, but I guess modernized it a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more. You know, we get get away from the

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<v Speaker 2>swinging watches and the weird spirals and the strange stairs

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, we all kind of go into trancel

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you start practicing on friends or people or strangers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, friends would be like did that work? Have it now?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it work?

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<v Speaker 2>It worked? It worked sometimes, And that's the thing it was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a numbers game, but the first time

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<v Speaker 2>it works properly, you just kind of think, oh, well

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<v Speaker 2>it does work. It's a little bit surprising, and you're thinking, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, there's something in it, and it's interesting when

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing that kind of you know, starting you

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<v Speaker 2>were just kind of mucking around with friends at parties

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<v Speaker 2>and around your house, that kind of thing. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you actually do your first show, you're almost like it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like you got your fingers crossed behind your back, thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>geez a, I hope this works, because realistically, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>real practice for your first show except doing the first show,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, until you get you know, twenty bodies

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<v Speaker 2>in those seats and actually do that thing, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>first time you're doing it, you know, on a stage

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<v Speaker 2>for real, and it's you know, there's no real practice

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've studied up on it, you've given it a shot,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going it's working. Well, how does the hypnotism actually work?

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<v Speaker 1>Because what I know I haven't I don't know very much.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I've absorbed is that it's kind of no

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<v Speaker 1>one's going to do anything that you tell them to

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<v Speaker 1>do unless they're kind of open to wanting to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>That is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>Yah, It's true because you're not you're not in another world,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not zoombead, you're not unaware of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way I explain it. I always say it's

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<v Speaker 2>like focusing on a thought so much it starts to

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<v Speaker 2>feel real in that moment. And when people are thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I could do that, Well, we

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<v Speaker 2>do it all the time. You know, if you watch

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<v Speaker 2>a sad movie and the dog dies, you can actually cry,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know that dog is actually still running around

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<v Speaker 2>earning zona ten thousand dollars a movie. But in that

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<v Speaker 2>moment when that happens, it feels real. You know, your

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<v Speaker 2>brain makes it feel real. You know, when you're dreaming

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<v Speaker 2>and you dream you're falling and you suddenly all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wake yourself up or and like that, that's your

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<v Speaker 2>brain making it feel real in the moment. So we

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<v Speaker 2>do it all the time, and so I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like move that state of mind to happen on purpose

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<v Speaker 2>on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>This just so much mystery behind it all, because it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't how does it. How do you just get

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<v Speaker 1>a stranger up and convince them to do whatever you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling them to do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what happens is when you see on

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<v Speaker 2>movies and TV, you don't really see the process. All

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<v Speaker 2>you see is someone going, oh, I'm sleep you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks crazy, it looks so unrealistic. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even when I do TV work, we're actually not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to show the hypnotic part that precedes kind of the result.

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<v Speaker 2>So you might see the quick bit, but that quick

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<v Speaker 2>bit happens after we've you know, had a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of prep with a person, taken them through that nice

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<v Speaker 2>relaxing you know, kind of stay focus on this, take

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<v Speaker 2>a deeper thing just and we're starting to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>disengage their mind from everything else going on around them

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<v Speaker 2>and starting to focus their imagination inwards. So in that

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<v Speaker 2>process that happens kind of off screen. If you see it

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<v Speaker 2>on TV or the movies, it's just crazy anyway. But

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<v Speaker 2>when we do it on stage and in a show,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that that part happens on the stage and

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<v Speaker 2>you see that process and for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't want it to be mysterious, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be weird. I think hypnotis of years

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<v Speaker 2>gone by, that kind of cliche style they used to

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<v Speaker 2>make all this was a weird power I was born with,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, this is full of mystery. I could

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<v Speaker 2>and I like, now it's that's complete rubbish, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's basic psychology. It's imagination, it's focus, it's concentration, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I like to kind of make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that the audience can really follow along that process when

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<v Speaker 2>we do it on stage. But it kind of almost

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense now because you know, we're so much more

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<v Speaker 2>in tune with yoga, mindfulness, meditation, that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you know, I have so many people who

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<v Speaker 2>come off the stage after was going, oh man, that

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<v Speaker 2>was wild. But it was like when you did that

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<v Speaker 2>first part. Oh, it was just like when I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>yoga and the instructors doing our thing at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're starting to become much more not aware, but

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<v Speaker 2>much more used to this. This using the state of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it's almost a form of manifestation. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>think about it so much, it just it would just

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<v Speaker 1>happened coming up. Why's even networks are fearful of airing

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<v Speaker 1>the full process of hypnosis. Matt goes one on one

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Tyson, and by the end of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you will have all the skills you need to hypnotize

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in your life. So he wouldn't mad the hypnotist,

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<v Speaker 1>And why can't you show the full process of hypnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can you only just show the fast bit on TV?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really interesting. I think you should be able to.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what it is is that they think

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<v Speaker 2>that people could watch this and then become hypnotized at home,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that Hollywood thing plays into their minds, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh what if these people are sat hypnotized at home

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll never get out of hypnotal, which is just rubbish, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, there's that kind of thought process that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't do that in case someone's yet

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<v Speaker 2>driving along and they're listening and then sudden they get

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<v Speaker 2>hypotized in their car. So you know, there's a level

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<v Speaker 2>of credibility to that. But I think that's an overcautious

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do, you know. I mean I do shows

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<v Speaker 2>with hundreds of people in the audience, and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly have like a hundred people in the audience. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you zomked out by the end of the show because

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<v Speaker 2>they happen to be in the same room as hypnosis

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<v Speaker 2>was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think you're beginning to be a bit

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<v Speaker 1>closer to James Bond than you think, because if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just hypnotizing people, people are obviously scared of you. They're scared,

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<v Speaker 1>they're terrified. The government scared of you. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>TV networks are scared of you. You've got power. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be the next villain on the Bond series instead.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't thought of that. Do you have an e

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<v Speaker 2>villain name for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Hypno Guy doesn't sound really good, But so you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Tyson said, you're amazing. Please explain, Please tell me

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<v Speaker 1>the real story.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that was a really weird momented time. A number

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. I was in Vegas doing some Hypno

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<v Speaker 2>stuff over there, and I went out for lunch, and

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<v Speaker 2>then across the way from where I was having lunch

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<v Speaker 2>there was Mike Tyson was doing some kind of signing

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<v Speaker 2>in some memorabilia shop. So I thought, wouldn't it be

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<v Speaker 2>fun if I go in and try and do something

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<v Speaker 2>with him, So basically, you know, the mind I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to show me, you know, try to do the next thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually walked round to the other side and

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<v Speaker 2>sat down, stuck my hand out, said Mike, look up here,

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<v Speaker 2>look me in the eye right now. So I've now

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<v Speaker 2>got his hat, so only his mind is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on and I just thought, look, I'm either

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<v Speaker 2>going to get absolutely wallopped here or or taken out

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but either that would be a good story. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, yes, you know we're thinking the same right, so,

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<v Speaker 2>so good story either way. So you know, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of end up doing a couple of funny little things

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm looking at that say do this, say this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, next thing is yelling at the

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<v Speaker 2>top of his voice and yeah, you're amazing, You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take over the world, this kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>then at that point the handler moved in and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you please leave? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the community like? Is it a rather small community?

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, are there are there any impostors? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think are any rumors of impostors who aren't actually

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<v Speaker 1>very good at hypnotizing, but they you know, maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>put a plant in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know. I like drama, I

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<v Speaker 3>love gossip.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's look, it's such a small community. There's I mean,

0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.920
<v Speaker 2>there's really only a handful of in Australia who would

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<v Speaker 2>be doing this full time, and so you know, we

0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of get to know each other. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>as for you know, what you say, impostor, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there'd be anyone out there willingly being an impostor.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, there's hobbyists who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make it happen. But as for a plants,

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't need it because if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>do a show that's good enough where you are able

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<v Speaker 2>to first of all, get you know, twenty people to

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<v Speaker 2>want to take part in your show initially. Well then

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<v Speaker 2>out that twenty people, you're always going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>number of people who are going to be great, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at being very highly suggestible. They've already used their mind

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<v Speaker 2>for similar things in the past, so it's it feels

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<v Speaker 2>natural and normal to them. And there are a section

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<v Speaker 2>of the of people in general who are just naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, susceptible to be very good at this. We

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<v Speaker 2>called a somnambulis that's like very hypnotizable, and so there's

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<v Speaker 2>that across all walks of life anyway. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a numbers game obviously, you know, the better

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<v Speaker 2>you are at your processes and that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get more out of the people. But I guess even

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<v Speaker 2>with a bad show. You'd probably be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>enough to make a show happen.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you say, sabam a mammalilis?

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<v Speaker 2>I like that word better. I like that word better. Somnambulist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, somnambulist. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the identifying qualities of a somnambulus?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you?

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<v Speaker 2>Can?

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<v Speaker 3>You just look at them and go, you come up here,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Not not really, I mean I can definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about hypnosis and someone's like completely fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just like they're just hanging on every word. They're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a few steps along the way and there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you joked earlier, it's like, oh, you know,

0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.040
<v Speaker 2>don't look in my eyes that kind of thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>do get that a lot, which for some people, for

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<v Speaker 2>most people is a bit of a joke. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are some people who genuinely think that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>they look at me, something's going to happen. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>already talking themselves into that. And what I love doing

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.520
<v Speaker 2>with those people is basically if someone goes, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not doing something already, are you, And I just love

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<v Speaker 2>to tap them gently on the shower and go No,

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<v Speaker 2>of course not and just kind of really build on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm written, build on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's lighting down. That's very good, guess lighting. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when things don't go to the plan? No

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<v Speaker 1>show is going to be the same, right, They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be different every time. How do you learn to

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<v Speaker 1>adapt with that? And what's B mode versus C mode

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<v Speaker 1>versus you know, set the place on fire and run out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's great. It's great because obviously, you know,

0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you've got fifteen twenty people on stage, you've never worked

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<v Speaker 2>with them before. Some people act on a suggestion one way,

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<v Speaker 2>something like act on it another way. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when things don't go the way you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on those rare occasions, it's almost like every night, it's

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<v Speaker 2>every night something different happens, and so it's it's a

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.440
<v Speaker 2>bit improvy style, I guess really, you know, because you'll

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<v Speaker 2>start to you know, you will bounce off what happens,

0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.479
<v Speaker 2>you know in that show. So if someone gets up

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<v Speaker 2>and does the most ridiculous dance you've ever done, even

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<v Speaker 2>though the suggestion was like get up and be whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the station was, but then suddenly they're doing a dance

0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 2>that the audience thinks is hilarious, Well, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>use that again later in the show, or you know

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll kind of build on that. So if they

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<v Speaker 2>say something, do something that's not quite expected but it

0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.680
<v Speaker 2>works really well, well we're going to build on that.

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 2>If it's just totally unexpected and it doesn't add anything

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<v Speaker 2>extra to the show, just kind of move on to

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<v Speaker 2>the next thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the difference between a hypnotist and a

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<v Speaker 1>hypnot therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a really good question. So essentially both have

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<v Speaker 2>the skills to hypnotize people, you know, and we're using

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<v Speaker 2>what we might call a hypnotic induction, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of process where that gets you relaxed and focused

0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.880
<v Speaker 2>us your imagination and really kind of disconnecting from kind

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<v Speaker 2>of externally so you can really focus on, you know

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 2>what the hypnosis saying. Obviously, with the hypnotherapy, we're working

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<v Speaker 2>on people one on one to get to a certain

0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 2>result they're trying to get to. Now, whether it's you know,

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 2>curing a fear of spiders, or whether it's a quit

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.479
<v Speaker 2>smoking or more or more commonly now to quit vaping.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mind has got a certain program that's been running.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either a program you've accidentally taught, it's taught you

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.720
<v Speaker 2>to do, like smoking or vaping. You know you've you've

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 2>done it so many times that your brain kind of

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.359
<v Speaker 2>switches off and goes, oh, don't worry, I'll run that

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 2>program for you. But then the day you think, yeah,

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, my health isn't good smoking or vaping.

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to stop, but that program still running, which

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of makes you grab the vape or grab the smoke. So,

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:17.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, we kind of show you the ways that

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you can use your mind to kind of adjust that program,

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 2>same as you know, irrational phobias and fears.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess technically a hypnotherapist could do what you do,

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.160
<v Speaker 1>but probably wouldn't do it very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Yeah, so actually this is a really good thing

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<v Speaker 2>because I think if you're already a performer and the entertainer,

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<v Speaker 2>you're used to the stage and people and you know,

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.439
<v Speaker 2>engaging crowds and things like that, it's much easier to

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<v Speaker 2>pin hypnosis skill skills on an existing performer show than

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<v Speaker 2>it is to kind of like have the hypnosis skills

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<v Speaker 2>but then teach the performance side someone like yourself. Natural entertainer,

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, born performer, right, you know it's it's it

0:20:58.760 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 2>just comes naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you've told me that because now I

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>don't have to become a hypnotherapist. I can become a

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.919
<v Speaker 1>stage hypnotist. So because I'm really.

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Natural on the stage, you know, I light up a room.

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<v Speaker 3>Love me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was wondering if you could give me some

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.280
<v Speaker 1>pointers on how I would hypnotize someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, nice and easy. You're just gonna close your eyes

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.280
<v Speaker 2>because that takes out a lot of other visual stimuli

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 2>going into your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Close your eyes, Okay.

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I usually prefer people to have their eyes closed when

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 1>they're watching me on stage anyway, So that works.

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's perfect.

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:37.159
<v Speaker 2>We're working halfway there. Tick excellent, tick, and then just

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 2>some basic things. You're just going to start to get

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 2>people disconnecting from what's going on around so you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start to direct their imagination in different places. So

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<v Speaker 2>at the start, it's just like, imagine the way that

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<v Speaker 2>your hand is just like resting on your lap there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>direct your direct your mind to your foot, and you

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<v Speaker 2>just feel what that feels underneath you. Because what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>there is they can't at the same and then think

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, there's four hundred people watching me out

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<v Speaker 2>there and blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're busying their mind with something else, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>can then start to put much more developed things to

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<v Speaker 2>imagine into their mind. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thought what I could do. I could do

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<v Speaker 1>heads down, thumbs up. I think that'd be really handy.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone put your heads down thumbs up, because we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that from primary school. So I think that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be really good. Yes, just you know they yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they heads of down so they can't see, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So I've got them with their heads down,

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<v Speaker 1>their thumbs are up there, they're now They're minds are

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<v Speaker 1>now not thinking about anything except for the thumbs and

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<v Speaker 1>the heads. How do I then insert a new suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>for a sub it's a good a person that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, for one of those for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can literally then just go straight into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the other fact, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, buy my book, buy my book, go on big

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<v Speaker 1>w and buy my book Google.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now here. I'm there right now. So you are

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<v Speaker 2>a natural? You were a natural?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was Matt the hypnotist and not the zombra

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<v Speaker 1>instructor but us. That's all one new skills to the test.

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<v Speaker 2>You are getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Sleepy, size sleepy. And when I click my fingers you

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<v Speaker 1>won't click that follow BT and also Jenny, now I'm nodding.

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<v Speaker 2>I look on the socials.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it work? Concealed with that? Simon is an iHeart

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<v Speaker 3>production