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Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Concer podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we ch have mindset, self development and

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Speaker 1: becoming your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs,

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Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self development. No

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Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey, we're here to

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Speaker 1: help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical

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Speaker 2: Then you're in the right place.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Rise and Conquered

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Speaker 1: Potty and Happy Valentine's or Galentine's Day for tomorrow. So

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Speaker 1: today we have a fun episode with Timothy, my husband

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Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day, and we are answering some of your

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Speaker 1: being together for over twelve years, how to navigate conflicts

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Speaker 1: But before we get into this episode, a couple of

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Speaker 1: little announcements. So we launched our app last week, a tr.

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Speaker 1: I'm on such a high and just to see everyone's

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Speaker 3: But to see how well it's been received and how

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Speaker 1: It's just amazing. Like the conversation's already happening in there

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Speaker 1: So if you guys want to check out the Rise app,

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Speaker 1: we will put a link in the show notes. And basically,

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Speaker 1: It's just the best because we're basically getting into the blocks,

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Speaker 1: So it's huge, huge, but also we're having a little

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Speaker 1: Isn't it wild what meditation can do to your mood?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the episode. I'm so excited

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm actually excited to test my body to the limits.

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Speaker 4: So I've got a new thing. I am getting into boxing.

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Speaker 2: To those our values as a relationship.

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Speaker 4: I will let you tell everybody you've forgot We have

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Speaker 2: Trust, trust so important?

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Speaker 4: Trust, connection, don't look to me? Yes, connection, trust, connection, experiences, Yes,

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Speaker 4: three holding space YEP is the other one, and then

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Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt. What's it acceptance? Acceptance?

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Speaker 2: So those are our five values.

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Speaker 1: So we have first of all like acceptance, and for

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Speaker 1: So then the next one is holding space and that

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Speaker 2: All right. I'm so glad we brought that up.

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Speaker 4: Like the proof is well for myself, it's like the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you felt really moved by it, have you.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's affected me and I've not affected me,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so powerful when you have that intentional time

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Speaker 1: all right. So we've got a whole bunch of questions

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Speaker 4: Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them are about you and your personal development.

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Speaker 1: People are very interested, but I'm going to read like,

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Speaker 1: How do you highlight or bring up areas that need work.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like it's it's not about saying the thing,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you just like, if you just go in

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Speaker 1: Well, often something you do with me is in the moment,

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Speaker 4: And that's giving them, you know, giving your partner the option.

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Speaker 4: That's it's two things. It's all it's like them knowing

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Speaker 4: It's essentially giving your partner the invitation to do it,

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Speaker 4: But I've already created the conversation that's going to be.

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Speaker 4: It's a calm way of going about it. It's still

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Speaker 4: Yes, definitely. It's almost like you're give him that little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, taking on a shirt.

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Speaker 4: And there's nothing like it's it's I know it's my stuff,

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Speaker 1: And what helps me also is when Tim kind of

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Speaker 1: have to react or defend yourself. How do you think

442
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: you can navigate getting your partner into self development?

443
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 2: This is a burning question. We're not laughing at that.

444
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: For us, I think I am very much.

445
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: You've got two options.

446
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: I think there's so much power in being the role

447
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: model in your relationship. So you know, if you if

448
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: you role model how you show up, how you listen

449
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: to podcasts or read books or invest in practitioners or

450
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: coaches and that sort of thing, and the partner sees

451
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: you getting better, feeling healthier, feeling yourself again, it's just

452
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: like evidence and it's nevit all that they're gonna ask

453
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: questions or want to know. So I truly believe it's

454
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: like that's first and foremost. It's like the quote I

455
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: always say of like keep your side of the street

456
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: clean and worry about you, especially if you're like in

457
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: your personal development journey at the start or like going

458
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: through something. It's like you don't really have the capacity

459
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: to drag someone along and you're it's probably not gonna

460
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: help you. So it's like focus on you. Trust that

461
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: when you're working on yourself, everything else falls into place.

462
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: And in our relationship it's been a mixture of that

463
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: and then also me having a very honest conversation with

464
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: Tim and saying, hey, I'm going to a new level,

465
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm evolving in this way. I can kind of feel

466
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: like you're not, and I would love for you to

467
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: come with me.

468
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 4: That's like, that's again, that's the invitation is I would love.

469
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: To have deeper conversations with you. I would love to

470
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: feel more connected with you, I would love for you

471
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: to feel good about yourself or you know, whatever it is,

472
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: and just opening that up and inviting them or even

473
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, what's really something fun to do is I

474
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: don't know if this is like manipulative, but like talk

475
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: about stories. So it's like, oh, I was listening to

476
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: the podcast with Georgie and Tim and he was saying

477
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: how he read this really great book blah blah blah

478
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: and it made him feel blah blah blah and blah

479
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: blah blah. And it's like you're not telling him, but

480
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: you're just like saying a story, and it's just like

481
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: allowing his mind to like expand and open and be interested.

482
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 4: That could be Yeah. Well, and especially if like you

483
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 4: can't force your partner to do anything otherwise it's gonna

484
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 4: push them away.

485
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a child.

486
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's like a child when you say no, you

487
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: can't do that and they want to do it more.

488
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, like I really want you to do this,

489
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: like and then if they're just not interested, it's going

490
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 4: to push them away even more. They're gonna have to

491
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: do that. They're gonna have to be ready in their

492
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 4: own time, on their own terms, yeah, which is hard

493
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: to swallow.

494
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: You have to almost trust their journey and it's.

495
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: Going to trust the process and exactly what you were saying.

496
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: If you lead by example, do all the things your

497
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: partner can see that you're like improving, like mentally, doing

498
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 4: all that, doing all the things, they're gonna be like

499
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: oh wow, like and then especially when you bring up

500
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 4: like you did to me, like, oh, I feel like,

501
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: you know, I would love for you to come on

502
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: this journey because I feel like I'm just like really getting.

503
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: Into it and I want to be more connected with.

504
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 4: Yea, be more connected with you, to feel more aligned

505
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: I want to feel.

506
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: It is hard, though, because there was definitely periods in

507
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: our relationship where we weren't on the same page and

508
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, off doing my own thing,

509
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: you're doing your own thing. But we always had like

510
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: those common values and like our relationship together. But there

511
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: was definitely moments in our relationship where it was hard

512
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: for me because we weren't on the same page. But again,

513
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: I trusted that It's like I could move forward and

514
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: you would either like, you know, follow or not that

515
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: if it's not meant to be, it's not meant to

516
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: be but I had to. I just had to trust that,

517
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: and that was hard, Like that's a hard thing to do,

518
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: but what else are you going to do? Because it's

519
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: like I was actually saying this analogy last night, it's

520
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: like self development and your evolution. It's like you're in

521
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: a ladder and you're walking up the ladder and you're

522
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: going to your higher self. And if someone next to

523
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: you is on another ladder and they're like a little

524
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: bit down, you can absolutely reach your hand back and

525
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: offer them help and insight and all the things. But

526
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: you do not step off the ladder. You do not

527
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 1: step down, because that is not honoring yourself. So you

528
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: have to trust, even if you're not dragging them up

529
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: the ladder, that they'll come up at some point when

530
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: it's right for them and you'll be able to, like,

531
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, get through it. And that's like our relationship.

532
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: You didn't get into self development until literally last year,

533
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: and we've been together for twelve.

534
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: Years, so like such a huge period of you.

535
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: But even though you've always been such an amazing human

536
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: and we've always when I've asked you to meet me

537
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: in a certain way, you've always met me. But it's

538
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: that communication where I've communicated to you my needs and

539
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: what I would like in the relationship and you have

540
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: always been receptive.

541
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, from like a man's point of view, doing the

542
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: self development thing, like like it has been such a crazy,

543
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: hectic journey, but I'm so thankful that I just you know,

544
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: I just walked over the edge and was just like, oh,

545
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: let's do it, Like, let's just let's peel back this armor.

546
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: Let's take the layers off and just like get to

547
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: the root cause of like why I'm triggered by the

548
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: little things? Why am I angry for no reason? Why

549
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: is this and why do I feel like, you know,

550
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: like sad all the time? It was like, you know,

551
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: but I've got all these things, but I'm still like

552
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: not happy and getting to the root of that.

553
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: I think also your partner, they may be showing signs

554
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: that they're either trying to escape or numb themselves, whether

555
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: that is drinking, scrolling Netflix, food, drugs.

556
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: And it's even like asking them and just being like.

557
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Hey, I noticed that you need this to cope with

558
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: your day or to whatever. Could you talk more about

559
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: could you tell me more about that. I would love

560
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: to know more about that because a lot of the time,

561
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: they've probably never been asked, they've probably never been made

562
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: aware that it's like, oh, that's interesting that you know

563
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: I need a beer to cope with my day. I've

564
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: never even thought about it could be my emotions or

565
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: you know. We've had a lot of those discussions where

566
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I would just love to know, like

567
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: why you feel like that or whatever, and You're like, oh, well,

568
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: I've always felt that way. But then we go deeper

569
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: and we unpack things, and it's just like opening up

570
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: that conversation to that in like a very like polite,

571
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 1: receptive way, holding space, creating space. Next question, how do

572
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: you and Tim show appreciation towards each.

573
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: Other our whole relationship? George has essentially says she doesn't

574
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: like surprises, and then it's only recently I've been like,

575
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: but why don't you like surprises so much? Like everyone

576
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: likes a surprise every now and then because I'm not

577
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: in control, because that's exactly right. So I've challenged her

578
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: by going ahead and like, each month I will book

579
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: in a surprise date night somewhere and she doesn't know anything.

580
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: She just knows what she has to wear, and that's it.

581
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: You've literally done that once.

582
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: I'll do that more than once. When no, there was

583
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: ah the breath work. Oh yeah that was for the

584
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: breath work.

585
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: No, you did do that. That's nice.

586
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think so how we shore we appreciate each other.

587
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just mutual respect, it's time, it's energy.

588
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Like I messaged him before and I was like, hey,

589
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: do you want to do a date night, Let's go

590
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: to the bath house and You're like, yeah, I'd love to.

591
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: That's me being like I appreciate you. I want to

592
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: spend time with you, and then you the exact same

593
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: of like when you surprise me, or like how I

594
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: bought you with that kindle the other day and I

595
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: was like, I got you the kindle. That's like me

596
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: showing you you know how I appreciate you, and just

597
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: like doing those little things for each other, Like you

598
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: it's you make me breakfast every morning so I can

599
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: go upstairs and get changed tim while I'm doing that,

600
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Like he makes breakfast and then get downstairs and he's

601
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: made me breakfast.

602
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. And we love those things because we've

603
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 4: had the conversation around like what would what can I

604
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: do to make you feel appreciated. Just have that conversation

605
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: with your partner, because you know, everyone's different, every relationship

606
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: is different, So just having that conversation and then acting

607
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: on what they say.

608
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think also. So I've been quite good with that,

609
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: with communicating more to you about how I feel. Like

610
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I said the other day, how I was like, Oh,

611
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: I'd love for you to be a bit more affectionate

612
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: to me, just in like more instances. And last night

613
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: we had some people around and I could tell that

614
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: you were being extra affectionate, like you're just a rob

615
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: of the arm or like touching my back, and I

616
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: thought on my head, oh, I actually said to him

617
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: the other day, I'd love for you to be a

618
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: bit more affectionate. And then you did it, and I

619
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, Like I just had to communicate,

620
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: whereas previously, maybe we've been in situations and you haven't

621
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: been very affectionate, and I've just thought of my head, oh,

622
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: he's not very affectionate, but I haven't said it to you,

623
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: and that something that was a big like oh, and

624
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: there's there's just so much in communication and we just

625
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: don't think to be and to communicate those little things

626
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: and I.

627
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: Mean, actually, so if you communicate little things.

628
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we've both been communicating like the little

629
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: things recently and saying like, oh I love when you

630
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: do this, or I'd really love if you did that.

631
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Don't you reckon?

632
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: What are you thinking about? I know exactly what you're

633
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: thinking anything, guys.

634
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm just very clear about what I like, good, very direct,

635
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's important is to be direct because

636
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: also your partner can't read your mind like I need

637
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: him to be like, oh I like this or I

638
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: want to do this and amazing. Next question, as Ivy

639
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: grows older, how are you finding the dynamics of everyday

640
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: life as a stay at home parent and a working parent.

641
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Have roles or responsibilities changed my as Ivy becomes more

642
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: self sufficient and independent.

643
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: It's a good question question. I feel like roles have

644
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: still stayed the same. It's gotten easier in some aspects

645
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: for then gotten harder in other aspects. But I feel

646
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: tell me more.

647
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Anyone who anyone else who has a two year old

648
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: which really understands.

649
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: Let's just say the negatives, the tantrums now, the little

650
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: tantrums that she has, the little bursts of busy energy

651
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: that she she spirited. Yes, that's what puts out to

652
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 4: the universe, which is taken well on board by both

653
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 4: George and I. We love every second of it. But

654
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: then also like it on the upside of compared to

655
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: like the upside of that she can now she's moving,

656
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: she's doing all the things. She's like, she's starting to

657
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: you know, like really shine in her in herself, and

658
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: it's making it easier for us. And like she started

659
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: to talk to so it's that communication is that's getting

660
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: so much easier.

661
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: But like our.

662
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Roles have pretty much stayed the same. Yeah, like I

663
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: go to work, You stay at home with the ivy.

664
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: She goes to daycare one day a week.

665
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 4: It's just a bit more fun now in the afternoons.

666
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: Like beforehand, it was like you know, when you get

667
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 4: like a up until like eighteen months, you don't really

668
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: get too much from your baby. But now she's at

669
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: that really cute point where it's like Georgia come home.

670
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: She'd be like Mummy's home, like you know, like and

671
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: it's just like, oh, it makes it so much more fun,

672
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: like and all the other stuff is like, oh it's good,

673
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: Like it doesn't even matter because it's.

674
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been very intentional too, honestly, Like

675
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: she's two, and I feel like I've only just grasped

676
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: the whole. When I'm home, I'm at home, and when

677
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm at work, I'm at work. So that's yeah, like

678
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: that took me so long to embody that, but I

679
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: feel like now I really make sure it's like when

680
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm at home, we have that time together and it's

681
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: it's very intentional time. I think that's just like what

682
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: we've tried to.

683
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: Get better at, like a lot of play well.

684
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: And then Tim, we also like we do have you know,

685
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: like my parents' help or Tim's parents help, so we

686
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: can go on a date night every single week, will

687
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: we try to or you know, whether we go and

688
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: do something. And then me and Tim also try and

689
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: do something for ourselves, so you know, whether that's I

690
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: get a massage on a Sunday or you know, Tim,

691
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: I know what you do, go to gold for those

692
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: sorts of things.

693
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, so pretty much the same to you.

694
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: Kids starts calling you by your first name, Yeah, Tim,

695
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: she comes, she go Tim.

696
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, come, she goes Timim.

697
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: Come, I'm like, excuse me, sweetie, what did you say Tim.

698
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, sweety, it's daddy. I'm Daddy, not Tim. And

699
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: then George be laughing, Yeah, Tim, come over here, and

700
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: then I'll be like the roles of your reverse, Like

701
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: George would be upstairs and she's like Mommy, I'm like,

702
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: it's not mummy, it's George. She go Gorge.

703
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm like I'm going. But it's just like

704
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, don't you ever call me that again?

705
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: My name is not She's so funny. The next question,

706
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: it's just funny. How do you keep your marriage spicy

707
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: and spontaneous. My husband and I have been together for

708
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: ten years and have two kids. Sometimes it feels like

709
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: the spark is dead.

710
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: Well, we haven't got two kids yet. We haven't got

711
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: two kids yet, And I don't know how it feels,

712
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 4: but it's simple.

713
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: All I can say is get some fantasy box.

714
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Literally, no, seriously. I think it's like we make time

715
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: for each other.

716
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: Like it's definitely like the thing that like really gets

717
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: me going, but like you know, really makes on really yes, yeah, Now,

718
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: it's that feeling of connection and once you feel like

719
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: you've got that connection with that person, you've got like

720
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: you know you've got that eye contact, you've got that

721
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: intentional time with each other. It's it's one hundred percent

722
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 4: those those date nights just you and your partner get

723
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: to get back to the roots of it like at

724
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: the you know, so you feel like a couple of

725
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 4: teenagers again where it's like you go out for those

726
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 4: date nights and you just you know, you have had fun.

727
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: Like tim go on a date night and we get

728
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: the conversation cards out and we ask each other these

729
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: like beautiful deep questions and but you've got to be

730
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: like you've got to actually be really interested, and you've

731
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: got to take them deeper, and you've got to ask

732
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: about them.

733
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: And like think of it.

734
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, when you first meet someone at the start

735
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: of a relationship and you just want to know everything

736
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: about them because you're so interested and.

737
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: It's so exciting.

738
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: It's like almost bringing that energy back into your relationship.

739
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 4: Of like but on a conscious level.

740
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, y, and like bringing that energy back into it.

741
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: It's like oh, and like as women, we literally do

742
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: get turned on when there is that connection, that eye contact,

743
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: that communication like that is literally like full play for us.

744
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: And it's like you literally just got.

745
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: To talk to us. You're actually don't have to do

746
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: very much. You just be super present eye contact and

747
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: just ask the questions, like be genuinely interested. Like if

748
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 4: you're with someone for ten years, it's like, yeah, you

749
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: would be genuinely interested, So act genuinely interested.

750
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: And then that's another thing, is like there is certain

751
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: things of not having your phone when like it's so

752
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: easy to get into bed and just scroll on your phone,

753
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: but that like would completely that completely kills like intimacy

754
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: and the vibe. So it's like not getting on your

755
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: phone and asking the person about their day, talking about

756
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: the day.

757
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: And then maybe but maybe sometimes you guys are both

758
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: burned the fuck out and it's like, just but just communicate.

759
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 4: Hold listen, I'm just I'm tapped out. To me, let's

760
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: just both go on our phones tonight, but tomorrow night,

761
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 4: let's let's take the oath and be like we're gonna

762
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: like really, you know, because you're not perfect all the time.

763
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: You can well, Tim surprises me.

764
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: That's spontaneity.

765
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Well I think it's also this is very obvious, but

766
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: intimacy in the way of touch that's not sexual. So

767
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: like a big thing for me is like I said

768
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: to Tim, this is something I said to him the

769
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: other day is I would really appreciate it is like

770
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the first thing you do. Because Tim has a bit OCD,

771
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: so like when he gets home, he's like, I gotta

772
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: put the fucking job in away and I've got to

773
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: do this and blah blah blah. But I said to him, like,

774
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: when you get home and if I'm home, can the

775
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: first thing you do is like make eye contact with

776
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: me and kiss me. So it's like, I feel like

777
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: he couldn't wait to come home to me, and you've

778
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: been doing that and it's made such a difference in me,

779
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: and he just like wouldn't have understood that or no that.

780
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: So it's like having that conversation and then even little

781
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: things like when you come in the kitchen and you

782
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: rub my back or you know, it's like, really, it's

783
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: those little moments that actually make such a big difference.

784
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 4: And it's been like, and I was like clinically proven,

785
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: but if you come home to your partner and then

786
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: your first thing you do is twenty minutes. All it

787
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: takes is twenty minutes of your time, intentional time with

788
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: that partner, it's going to make them trust you. It's

789
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: going to increase like they love you. It's just gonna

790
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: like it just it's just a win win for every

791
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: relationship that like, first twenty.

792
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Minutes is like a long time though it could literally

793
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: be like five minutes.

794
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you give me twenty minutes.

795
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: Well good, yeah you don't. Hey, I can give you

796
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: twenty minutes, but we don't need it, if you know

797
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: what I mean.

798
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: Stop.

799
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think also another thing like going back

800
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: to the spicy situation, because like.

801
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that is you just got.

802
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: To for example, having that conversation with your partner be like,

803
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, like sexually, do you want to try anything?

804
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: What do you?

805
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: What are you?

806
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

807
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: Should we try something new?

808
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: Like like if you haven't had it?

809
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: Again, it's just communication, but.

810
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: It's also creating that safe space because they might be

811
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: a bit afraid of like they if they've got some

812
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: to what they think, they might be a bit of

813
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: a weird or different sort of want. But it's like

814
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 4: it's okay, it's just a want. It's not not negative.

815
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 4: It's it's all good to bring it in, you know. Yeah.

816
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, it's like it's communication. Well it's yeah,

817
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: it's just like talking about like how can we make

818
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: things exciting and connect together? And it's like that saying

819
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: of like where intention goes, energy flows, So it's like,

820
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: if you make your relationship and connection a priority, things

821
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: going to feel better. Things are going to feel good

822
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: because you're making it a priority. Tim, what was your

823
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: honest opinion of self development and manifesting before you got

824
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: into it?

825
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Did you think Georgie was Delulu, Well, I like it.

826
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say eighty percent with the manifesting thing because

827
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: I was just like, yeah, I just didn't I knew

828
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: there was something there with the self development, so I didn't, like,

829
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: I knew there was something there for me. That's why

830
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: I feel like I put it off, kept on putting,

831
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: like putting it off, because it's like, I mean, once

832
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: I like unraveled this space, it's just going to be

833
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: like an ongoing thing, you know, like it's so that

834
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: was there for me, So it was almost like too. Yeah,

835
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: it was almost like I'm just not ready to like

836
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 4: just to tap into, but I know there's stuff there

837
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: and I can't wait for when I am ready to

838
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: uncover it all and just like yeah, be the ultimate me.

839
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, not really as much a self development thing.

840
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: But so with the manifesting you thought I was Delulu.

841
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the manifesting thing, I was like, but now you

842
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: obviously believe and manifesting and understanding because.

843
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: I've got like that consciousness of like of what it means. Yeah,

844
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: good to.

845
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Know the Lulu.

846
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Last question is does Tim have any book recommendations or

847
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: like anything for Yes.

848
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: I do have two book recommendations. For the males. So

849
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: it's a book by David Dieter. It's called Way of

850
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: the Superior Man and that is the ultimate book two

851
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: Relationships and Men in Relationships. That's number one book.

852
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: And I even read it to understand men a bit

853
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: more and it was very helpful.

854
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: And Georgia has read So there's a man's version and

855
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: there's a woman's version as well. And you've also read

856
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: that book halfway thought, Yeah, anyway, it's fantastic book for relationship.

857
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: Relationship second one second one is by Don Miguel and

858
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 4: it's The Four Agreements, The Guide to Personal Freedom. That's

859
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 4: a great book.

860
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: I've also read that and that is a great book.

861
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: Yes, great book. So yeah, those two book recommendations.

862
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: Love that.

863
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Okay, last last question, how do you guys balance the

864
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: feminine and masculine energy in the relationship.

865
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: I would say, for this, I have had to learn to.

866
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Surrender, yes, and also then ask Tim what I need

867
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: of him. So in our relationship, I was actually mostly

868
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: in my masculine and that was because I didn't know

869
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: how to ask for help. I didn't know how to

870
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: ask for Tim to meet my needs, and I didn't

871
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: feel safe in myself. So I had to do my

872
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: own internal work to feel safe in myself first, and

873
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: then I got better at surrendering and asked him to

874
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: meet my needs. It's like what I'm saying before of like, hey,

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Speaker 1: in this situation, could you be more affectionate it? And

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Speaker 1: that would be like me stepping into my receiving fem energy.

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Speaker 1: Do you how do you kind of see maul?

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Speaker 4: And I would say I'm the same, but I had

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Speaker 4: to step into my masculine bit more because I've always

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Speaker 4: been like archetypically in my lover archetype, which is very

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Speaker 4: much they say like the please are the you know,

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Speaker 4: the keep the piece? Yeah yeah, So but doing all

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Speaker 4: this work, it's like I'll be like, oh, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: have got my own power, you know. Like I'm not

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Speaker 4: to say I'm like Oh that's I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: start being the masculine mine. It's going to be my

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Speaker 4: way or the highway. No, that's not being in your power.

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Speaker 4: Being in your power is like it's like the modern

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Speaker 4: alpha male. It's being powerful in the way of the

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Speaker 4: power of supporting your partner, supporting your woman, like being

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Speaker 4: there for her. That's what power is.

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Speaker 2: Tim's got to go, guys, love Let's.

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Speaker 4: Go twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four, which is so good. If you don't commit to that.

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Speaker 4: Two broken wrists in like three weeks or something like that.

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Speaker 1: On it all right, Thank you so much for having Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here. We'll definitely get you

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Speaker 1: back on the potty soon because.

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Speaker 4: We love loving you here. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: If you have any more questions for Tim, put them

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Speaker 1: in the ONC Facebook group because we'll definitely do another

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Speaker 1: one soon. Thank you so much for listening to another

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