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Speaker 1: We know that the revitalized Cyclone Tracy Exhibition at the

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Speaker 1: Museum and Dark Gallery of the Northern Territory officially open

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Speaker 1: just over a week ago, giving visitors the chance to

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Speaker 1: explore a classic Darwin home with surviving objects and monitor

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Speaker 1: the cyclone in the Bureau of Meteorology's office as it

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Speaker 1: looked in nineteen seventy four. Now it also boasts an

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Speaker 1: actual recording of Tracy in a new sound booth and

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Speaker 1: never seen before items and images which have been donated

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Speaker 1: by the local community and beyond. And joining me on

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Speaker 1: since that grand opening is the curator Jared Archibald. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to you, Jared.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good o, Katie get everyone.

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Speaker 1: Now, how has it all been going since? Since the opening?

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty full on it. We've been really happy

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Speaker 2: with the response we've got. We were, you know, I think,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned a few weeks ago, we're a little

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Speaker 2: bit apprehensive because it is new, it is changed, and

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Speaker 2: lots of people had very much an emotional attachment to

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Speaker 2: what was there before. But we think we've got the

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Speaker 2: balance right. There's a few things there that people recognize

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Speaker 2: and remember, but there's also a lot of new stuff

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Speaker 2: and we've got some really good feedback.

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Speaker 1: You tell me a little bit more about the Bureau

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Speaker 1: of Meteorology office. It sounds pretty cool. How have you

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Speaker 2: So now you so to just give a brief overview

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Speaker 2: of how it works now. So the actual entrance is

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Speaker 2: an archway now and it has an artwork by a

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Speaker 2: tearye artist, a lady called Mary Maureen. So we're basically

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Speaker 2: just trying to ground people as they enter that Sutian

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Speaker 2: Trades is just a one off that we're in monsoon country,

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Speaker 2: we're in cyclone country, and that cyclones have been happening forever,

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Speaker 2: like that's just a part of life here. So you

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Speaker 2: walk through that, you go to the left and you

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Speaker 2: see that nineteen seventies house that was the one that

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Speaker 2: was there but in a different place before. But we've

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Speaker 2: added much more to it, and there's a book that

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Speaker 2: people can come and look at. But there's one object

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Speaker 2: that has been through two of the major cyclones in

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Speaker 2: the war, so that's good. And then you see the

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Speaker 2: met and it's interesting because what we've tried to recreate

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Speaker 2: is an I'm Kington version of that. We had some

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Speaker 2: amazing photos in our.

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Speaker 1: Would you seem to have lost it there for a moment, Jared, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: you went a little bit staticky.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. Yep, can you hear me now?

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Speaker 1: We can? Yeah, keep going.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, So, yeah, I don't know where I got up to.

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Speaker 2: But basically, we had some amazing photographs of the Buer

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Speaker 2: of Meteorology offices in Darwin from the late sixties into

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Speaker 2: the early seventies, and we've used those in conjunction with

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Speaker 2: the Buer of met now to recreate what the office.

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Speaker 2: It's not an exact replica, but it gives that real

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Speaker 2: essence of what it was like in the seventies. So

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Speaker 2: you can see the actual radar screen, the track cyclone Tracy.

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Speaker 2: There's a telephone there that rings. You need to pick

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Speaker 2: And there is just dark seventies wood paneling, green vinyl

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Speaker 2: in the territory. What like.

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Speaker 1: That's a great way for people to be able to

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Speaker 1: like and what it was like for the Bureau and

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Speaker 1: we're actually going to be catching up with the Bureau

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Speaker 1: just after eleven o'clock this morning to talk about that

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Speaker 1: Darwin in the same way again. But Jared, what's been

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Speaker 1: the feedback I suppose from some of the people that

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Speaker 1: that is like the Bureau of Meteorology offers.

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Speaker 2: I think the best reaction was the actual Bureau people.

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Speaker 2: They loved it. This was really nice. But I think

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Speaker 2: it just once again, it's giving people what things were

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Speaker 2: People who remember that time or have seen your images

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is a really good thing, and

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Speaker 1: the Tarana replica has gotten a lot of people talking

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the tarana is it's there, it's near the or,

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Speaker 2: done this for a variety of reasons. One was we

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Speaker 2: but also to talk about resilience, talk about the dark

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Speaker 2: humor that comes from that, the humor that it isn't

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Speaker 2: even if it's in a you know, in a way

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Speaker 2: But John Garner was a fellow who had just had

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Speaker 2: the rap Bays Gates and a few days later vented

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Speaker 2: his frustrations by painting Tracy you bitch across the boot

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Speaker 2: and that became this almost like a signpost. People saw

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Speaker 2: it was actually started off as a joke just in

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Speaker 2: great if we could recreate that, because we've had a

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Speaker 2: So there was a sort of an offhand thing that, oh,

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Speaker 2: that for people to come and see it, it was

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Speaker 1: That the car lovers of the territory are going to

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Speaker 2: We've had, We've had some brick back about it, but

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Speaker 2: they don't understand. All they're seeing is this beautiful red

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Speaker 2: it has a twisted shell, it has no sills, it

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Speaker 2: six inches in a huge smash. It had to ride

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Speaker 2: it off fifteen years ago. It has more bog in

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Speaker 1: Oh so good.

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Speaker 2: Just explaining all of that, just so that all those

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Speaker 2: done anything. We've we've saved something from going basically to

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Speaker 2: the crushes and we're going to be hopefully enjoyed by

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Speaker 2: thousands of people and we get a smirk and a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good good to hear. Now, tell me I know

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Speaker 1: there's a story behind the raggedy is it raggedy Andy

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Speaker 2: It's definitely raggedy Andy. So they were there was and

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Speaker 2: So Tansy, the lady who donated that doll tours a

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Speaker 2: People and especially women realized just it tugged at heart strings,

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Speaker 2: and we've managed to. He he had some damage. Like

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Speaker 2: But he's on display. And she tansy as she came

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Speaker 1: Now, before I let you go, what's been the reaction

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Speaker 1: from people as they've gone through the the the display

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Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, I actually don't know. I know it's been steady,

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Speaker 2: like it hasn't been absolutely crazy, but it's just been

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Speaker 2: Of that, I don't know how many of those it's

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Speaker 2: many of the objects and images that are on display.

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Speaker 2: But the feedback overall has been really, really positive. We've

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Speaker 2: been really happy that people have taken it on board,

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Speaker 2: them have said they love the way it's much more

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Speaker 2: That's now opened right up so people cannot feel hemmed in.

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Speaker 2: The sound booth is still there. It is rebuilt and

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Speaker 2: brand new. We've remastered the sound of that did the

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Speaker 1: Well. Museum and Dark Gallery of the Northern Territory Curator

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Speaker 1: Jared Archibald, thank you so much for your time this morning,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you have a lovely Christmas and New

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Speaker 1: Year with the family.

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Speaker 2: You two, Katie and Mary, Christmas to everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks so much,