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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Rap, a weekly podcast covering women's sports news.

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Speaker 2: Mills, what have we got this week? Taking a look

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Speaker 2: around the grounds.

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Speaker 3: Our Aussie women's cricket team have secured the series win

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Speaker 3: against India. Chloe mccardal equals the English Channel crossing world record,

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Speaker 3: and an investigation into sexual assault and grooming within the

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Speaker 3: Matilda squad is underway after a statement was made by

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Speaker 3: ex Matilda Lisa Devanna on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: For our key story, we'll discuss the dilemma with Australian netball,

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Speaker 1: the national players who can't get a gig in the

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look around the grounds.

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Speaker 1: In cricket, the Aussies have secured the series win against

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Speaker 1: India after a tough victory in the second T twenty

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Speaker 1: So the first match was rained out up on the

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast and then the second match was a pretty

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Speaker 1: tense affair. They bowled well and the bowlers were backed

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Speaker 1: up by some pretty exceptional efforts in the field as well.

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Speaker 1: It did look like a certain win for the Aussies

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Speaker 1: after India slump to nine for eighty one part way through,

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Speaker 1: but there was some pretty impressive late hitting by Poojo

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Speaker 1: Vastrakhar lifting the Indian score to nine for one to eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Tarlia McGrath showed exceptional poise to steer the Aussies to

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Speaker 2: Beishceptional it's pretty good, hey.

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Speaker 1: She finished with an unbeaten forty two runs and helped

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Speaker 1: and nineteen with fire balls to special mention. We've chatted

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Speaker 1: about her a few times on here, but Elise Perry

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Speaker 1: became the most capped Australian female cricketer of all time.

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Speaker 2: On your pairs. She's just a weapon, isn't she.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so two hundred and fifty two games, overtaking Alex

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Speaker 3: Still on cricket, there was a twelve month that I

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Speaker 3: brought on by COVID, but Claire Connor has finally taken

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Speaker 3: office at Lord's as the first female president of the

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Speaker 3: MCC in the club's two hundred and thirty four year history.

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Speaker 3: So we chatted about the MCC recently. They are basically

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Speaker 3: they were the former governing body of cricket now the ICC,

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Speaker 3: but they're essentially like the Bible and the decision making

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Speaker 3: people within cricket. Recently they changed the official terminology from

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Speaker 3: batsmen to batters for all cricket and this week they

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Speaker 3: have elevated Connor, who is also the Director of Women's

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Speaker 3: which is awesome to see a bit of background on Connor.

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Speaker 3: She made her debut for England in nineteen ninety five

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Speaker 3: at the age of nineteen and was captained by two thousand,

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Speaker 3: leading the English women to their first Ashes triumph in forty.

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and nine, she has made an honorary

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Speaker 3: a huge moment for Claire Connor and for women in cricket.

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Speaker 1: season will be more accessible than ever, so all eighty

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Speaker 1: four regular season games and finals will be broadcast live

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Speaker 1: on KO and to ensure access for all, up to

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Speaker 1: two games per week will be broadcast live on KO

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Speaker 1: Freebies and one game per week on KO YouTube. In

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Speaker 1: will feature a Game of the Round live each week

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Speaker 1: in the premium five pm Saturday time slot. We love Primetime,

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Speaker 1: We love Primetime Live Sports. The growth and visibility of

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Speaker 1: the game leading into the World Cup, which is going

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Speaker 1: Shylah Hill in the point guard role in swimming. We

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Speaker 1: She equaled the all time record for successful crossings of

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Speaker 3: What do you call it, the the body of water water.

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Speaker 3: The body of water between England and France. So swimming

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Speaker 3: She joined the English swimming legend Alison Street on forty

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Speaker 3: three crossings. Streeter made her forty third and final crossing

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Speaker 3: Mikado made her first crossing back in two thousand and

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Speaker 3: that point has had Street's record in her site. So

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Speaker 3: incredible to see her equal that record and I'm really

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Speaker 1: I also love the goggles story because if people haven't

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Speaker 1: about a genuine fear of her goggles falling off in

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Speaker 3: It's terrifying, Like I grew up a swimmer and the

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Speaker 1: Now I reckon you were swimming as fast as Arnie Oh.

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Speaker 1: harassment in decent assault, grooming and bullying from senior players

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Speaker 1: when she was part of the Young Matilda's side. American

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Speaker 1: soccer player Megan Rapino tweeted saying men protecting men who

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Speaker 1: Paul Riley, who we discussed on the rap last week.

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Speaker 1: So Divanna responded to the tweet from Rapino and she said,

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Speaker 1: I agree, but I have witness with my eyes, women

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Speaker 1: protecting women who abuse women, players protecting senior players who

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Speaker 1: abuse younger players, organizations protecting coaches and players who abuse players.

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Speaker 1: Abuse is abuse. Poor behavior is poor across all boards.

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Speaker 1: So we then saw there are articles, an article in

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Speaker 1: more detail about what she'd experienced, and we've seen Football

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Speaker 1: Australia respond saying that they're going to work with Sports

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Speaker 1: Integrity Australia to manage complaints and they're obviously going to

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep you.

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Speaker 1: good to see that Football Australia have proactively gone out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely still on soccer.

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Speaker 3: So. The ballon d'Or aka the Golden Ball is an

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Speaker 3: It's one of the oldest and generally regarded as one

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Speaker 3: so a little while in between. Megan Raupino took it

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Speaker 3: Kerr has been recognized for her Golden Boot as the

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Speaker 3: top scorer in England's Women's Super League with Chelsea, where

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Speaker 2: the key story in Nepal.

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Speaker 3: Caylin Bassett and Liz Ellis have engaged in a healthy

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Speaker 3: debate on Twitter in relation to the issue of Bassett

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Speaker 3: finding herself without a Sun.

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Speaker 3: Bassett, who played in New Zealand last season, is currently

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Speaker 2: Game side next year. I can't believe common Games is

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Speaker 3: That's Ellis didn't beat around the bush when responding to

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Speaker 3: the predicament, stating that if Caitlyn was good and considered

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Speaker 2: Picked her up. Would you give us a bit more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty like Liz didn't really miss that,

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Speaker 1: Like she went kind of hard and Caitlyn defended herself

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Speaker 1: a lot of time we'd see athletes who probably aren't

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Speaker 1: went out and stood up for herself. So Caylen's argument

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Speaker 1: look at the Sun Corps superneerpl, it's such a competitive competition.

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Speaker 1: There's eight teams, yeah, and if you think about the

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Speaker 1: feel right. So Caylen's argument is we've got too many

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Speaker 1: on that. While Liz is saying don't cap the imports

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Speaker 1: bring as many in as we want to make the

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Speaker 2: Interested to know what you reckon about this.

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Speaker 3: It's honestly a really tricky one because there kind of

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Speaker 3: them putting a cap on, I don't think. I think

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Speaker 2: This week we have a very special guest.

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Speaker 3: After two Olympic games for the Opals, fifteen years and

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Speaker 1: Very exciting to have a chat with you on the Wrap.

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Speaker 1: You've just announced your retirement after an incredible basketball career.

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Speaker 4: So it's been a long time at the basketball stadium yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think. I think another moment is probably playing against

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a really nice moment as well, after

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Speaker 1: How did you come to this decision that you were

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Speaker 1: How do you feel now that that decision has been made?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel really good. It's it's been nice. It

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I read your article, so we'll put it

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Speaker 1: on Athletes's voice, and it was really powerful, really brave

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. I was nervous. I was really nervous

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think it was really powerful and the way

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Speaker 1: It's such an important thing for people to talk about

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Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you for doing that and for writing that.

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Speaker 1: just amazing to watch you always. You talked about always

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Speaker 2: Thanks Zoie. I appreciate it, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what to watch.

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Speaker 2: Every time.

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Speaker 1: I miss it every time when it's me looking at

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Speaker 2: You to go, You're on in cricket.

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Speaker 1: It all kicks off on Thursday, when the Melbourne Stars

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Speaker 2: I am so stoked for this.

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Speaker 1: Come say hi if you come. In basketball, it's finals

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