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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken.

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Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Our names are Amy, Kate and Sophie Torver. We're identical triplets,

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Speaker 2: so we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things

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Speaker 2: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment,

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Speaker 2: and issues.

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Speaker 1: Facing with it.

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Speaker 2: That is so fat Thank you. Okay, you're looking increasingly

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Speaker 2: worried because your dog is inside at the moment and

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Speaker 2: you have a huge hour road trip back to Coromandel

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Speaker 2: Valley on the way home. I know, well, it sounds

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Speaker 2: really cruel that I've left him inside all day, but

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Speaker 2: we have installed a doggy door, but he's never used

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Speaker 2: one before, so he's very confused. Surely if he needed

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Speaker 2: to go that badly, he could push through the docky door.

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Speaker 2: I reckon he's hiding from the spiders at the back

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Speaker 2: of your house. Kate, Oh my gosh, don't even get

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Speaker 2: me started on these spiders. I was out a dinner

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Speaker 2: with Race and he asked his dad.

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Speaker 1: Oh, dad, do you know how to get rid of

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Speaker 1: wolf spiders? And I was like, what are wolf spiders?

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Speaker 2: And please don't google it because they are as scary

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Speaker 2: as their names. My god, they were actually so cute.

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Speaker 2: They had like the beadiest little lives. They are not Charlie,

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Speaker 2: they are not cute at all. They looked disgusting, their

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Speaker 2: eyes like light up. And apparently they burrow because I

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Speaker 2: had found some holes in the backyard, which I first

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Speaker 2: thought was snake holes. I mean, I'm glad they're not

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Speaker 2: snake holes, but yeah, snake's dig holes. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how big of these spiders if they're borrowing bloody holes

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Speaker 2: in your yard. I haven't actually googled it myself, like

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Speaker 2: I've banned myself from googling it, but you know, Brandon

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Speaker 2: showed me a few photos and so did Ree. So

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Speaker 2: I literally haven't been outside since I found this out.

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Speaker 2: I've googled and they're about the size of a human hand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're huge.

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Speaker 2: I'd just be checking your bed every night before you

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Speaker 2: go to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, something else for me to worry about.

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Speaker 2: Well, on a nicer note, so if you've got to

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Speaker 2: tell everybody about your makeshift holiday, because the last we heard,

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Speaker 2: your holiday to Port Douglas was canceled. Yeah, so we

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Speaker 2: ended up going to Port Hughes instead, which is on

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Speaker 2: the York Peninsula as about two hours out of Adelaide.

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Speaker 2: It was really beautiful there, but I think a bit

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Speaker 2: of a kick in the dick was the fact that

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Speaker 2: we found out that the Queensland lockdown ended early so

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Speaker 2: we could have gone on houri.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought it looked like quite a

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Speaker 1: good holiday.

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Speaker 2: Via Instagram, though, there were lots of shots of you

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Speaker 2: in the water, which I've not seen before. So he's

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Speaker 2: not really a water baby, but apparently you actually liked it. Well,

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Speaker 2: it has to be really really hot to get me

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Speaker 2: in the water, and I was more tempted because my

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Speaker 2: dog Archie was being so cute and swimming and I

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Speaker 2: kind of wanted to be that mum that was in

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Speaker 2: the water with him having fun. But in saying that,

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Speaker 2: we did actually get all of the money back for

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Speaker 2: our trip, so we're hoping to go at another time

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Speaker 2: when it's a little bit safer. Well, Amy, what have

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Speaker 2: you been up to this week? You haven't been jet

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Speaker 2: sitting around holding the fort down for hula media. I

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Speaker 2: have been holding the foot down. So if it was

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Speaker 2: only away for two days, so that was fine. I

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Speaker 2: did go on a five week European holiday in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: so that was a smart move. She does have a

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Speaker 2: few days owing. But you know what, yesterday I spent

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Speaker 2: a large period of time making a shipping container cake.

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Speaker 2: Now that might sound odd to a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: but this is because your boyfriend is obsessed with his

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Speaker 2: shipping container that he has turned into sort of a

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Speaker 2: makeshift room. And plus it was his birthday, his birthday

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Speaker 2: as well. Yes, well, it's quite funny because at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of our relationship, Dale said I won him over

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Speaker 2: because I made such an amazing cake. And if you

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Speaker 2: guys have seen the movie Matilda, it was modeled off

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Speaker 2: that massive cake that the trunch ball forces that kid

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Speaker 2: each year I've adapted something a little bit different. So

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Speaker 2: this year I thought Dale loves shipping containers. He's been

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Speaker 2: transforming all these shipping containers, so I thought I'll make

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Speaker 2: harder than I thought it would be. Look I feel

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Speaker 2: like it would have been the world's first shipping container cake.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen one before.

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Speaker 1: Actually it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: That's why I had a few examples to go off,

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Speaker 2: but mine didn't look anything like this one.

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Speaker 1: It actually looked like a tissue box. But he loved

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Speaker 1: it regardless.

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Speaker 2: I think you've got to put up a photo in

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Speaker 2: our Facebook community because, to be completely honest, you said

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Speaker 2: it to me as a snapchat and for a moment,

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Speaker 2: it took me a while to figure out what the

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Speaker 2: What I don't get is Dale loves camping, Like, could

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Speaker 2: you have made something like camping related.

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Speaker 1: Everything dissing me with this cake?

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Speaker 2: It's very thoughtful, it was thoughtful, but I feel like

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Speaker 2: it's not something that's like attractive that you can bring

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Speaker 2: to life in the foot of a cake. Now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think you've got to put up a photo in

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Speaker 2: our Facebook community, which has outspoken the podcast community, and

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Speaker 2: I would love other people to share cakes that they've

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Speaker 2: made that are a little bit left of center. I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling really slack because I've never made Reese's birthday cake.

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Speaker 2: I've always ordered them from the cheesecake shop. Is that bad?

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think

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Speaker 2: half the time, when you try and set out to

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Speaker 2: make a cake, you actually spend more money than you

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Speaker 2: would if you'd actually just bought a nice one. Does

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Speaker 2: anyone notice so men are never making their girlfriends or

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Speaker 2: wives cakes. It's always something that the women do buy

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Speaker 2: them either. It's kind of just a thing that either

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Speaker 2: a girl's parents buy them or they just don't have one.

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Speaker 2: I've never had a cake bought for me from anyone

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Speaker 2: apart from us. I mean, I got a question on

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Speaker 2: Steph bleasith oh sin ne Vang.

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Speaker 1: Not blame me, Amma, than Mark, You're gitty.

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Speaker 2: Marketing guru. Michelle Battersby's quiet departure as chief marketing officer

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Speaker 2: from fitness app Keep It Cleaner has set tongues wagging.

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Speaker 2: Fans quickly noticed founders of Kick, Steph Clere Smith and

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Speaker 2: Laura Henshaw, didn't acknowledge her departure on the app's official accounts.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into it, for those who might not know, so,

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Speaker 2: I can you just tell us who Michelle Batisby is. Well,

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Speaker 2: she's become a public figure in her own right. She

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Speaker 2: She first started out in HR and was approached by

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Speaker 2: the CEO of Bumble to launch the app in Australia,

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Speaker 2: and she's managed to grow it into the huge success

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Speaker 2: really become a sort of not an influencer, but influencer

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Speaker 2: She seems to have a lot of famous friends, particularly

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Speaker 2: that relationship that sparked the opportunity for her to work

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Speaker 2: at Keep It Cleaner. She was the chief marketing officer

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Speaker 2: there and she was very instrumental in their rebrand that

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Speaker 2: happened late last year, and it was really a big

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Speaker 2: deal for Michelle to join Keep It Cleaner. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she had such an amazing job at Bumble and it

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Speaker 2: was really a public display that she was moving over

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Speaker 2: to Keep It Cleaner. They were really exciting things happening

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Speaker 2: with that brand, and she was going to really launch

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Speaker 2: it to an even bigger platform and make it even

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Speaker 2: more successful. Well she's definitely done that, because an article

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Speaker 2: in the Financial Review showed that Kick has increased its

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Speaker 2: subscribers by seventy five percent this year. Now, that does

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Speaker 2: have a lot to do with COVID, because more people

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Speaker 2: are joining digital fitness apps instead of going to the gym,

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Speaker 2: but I also think it has a lot to do

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Speaker 2: with the rebrand. You know, they had fresh trainers, new features,

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Speaker 2: they were able to sync workouts to Spotify and Apple Music,

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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of those marketing ideas were

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Speaker 2: driven by Michelle. And for those who aren't aware, Kick

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Speaker 2: isn't just an app, they also have like an arm

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Speaker 2: at holes and wol work, so it's really a massive

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Speaker 1: Growth is huge.

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Speaker 2: I think what she's been really good at is bringing

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Speaker 2: more of an inclusivity to the app, and that's something

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Speaker 2: she said she learned a lot about at Bumble. It

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Speaker 2: was having a very positive approach and looking at things

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Speaker 2: through an inclusive lens. And if you look at the

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Speaker 2: new trainers they've got on board now, they have about

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Speaker 2: five or six different trainers who were all shapes and sizes,

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Speaker 2: different ethnicity. So I think she really has brought that

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Speaker 2: inclusivity into the app. It's interesting though, because I have

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Speaker 2: been a member of Kick for I think nearly three

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Speaker 2: years now, which makes me proud because I remember before

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Speaker 2: I turned thirty, I was like, I really need to

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Speaker 2: start actually getting fit and healthy and I've really enjoyed

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Speaker 2: to doing Dan Kennedy's exercises, but it is really great

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Speaker 2: to have that diversity on there. It's interesting, though, because

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Speaker 2: there used to be such a demand on Stephan Laura

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Speaker 2: being the face of that business. And for those who

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Speaker 2: haven't used the app, they used to have like a

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Speaker 2: when Stephan out she was pregnant, I was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: that's really a clever move to start introducing new faces

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Speaker 2: and not this sort of stress on them to be

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Speaker 2: the whole product. Well, it's exactly what Kayla Astinas's app

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Speaker 2: Sweat did. They realized that they couldn't just base their

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Speaker 2: as you said, that's exactly what they've done, presumably because

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Speaker 2: Steph is going to have a lot more responsibility at home.

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Speaker 1: With her newborn baby.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kayla of course had a baby as well, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it all makes sense, or you'd probably get into what

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Speaker 2: actually sparked a bit of attention over this departure. So Michelle,

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Speaker 2: unbeknownst to a lot of us as a Kick member,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know she left. So she apparently left in October.

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Speaker 2: There has been no public farewell on Kick social channels.

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Speaker 2: It just all seemed to go quiet. Now, a few

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Speaker 2: people in our Facebook community did stay that Laura and

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Speaker 2: Steph kind of made passing comments about Michelle no longer

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Speaker 2: being a part of Kick, but as an avid viewer

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Speaker 1: Their stories, I never saw it.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't something that was made ultra public. Normally with farewells,

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Speaker 2: they will post like an actual picture in their feed,

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Speaker 2: not just an Instagram story that disappears. And I think

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Speaker 2: what has also created a bit more interest over this

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Speaker 2: apparently been removed from the Instagram page. Now I went

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Speaker 2: is from March. Well, this is the keep It Cleaner

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Speaker 1: Well, what does.

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Speaker 2: Everyone think the app is? Because I'm really intrigued. Well,

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Speaker 2: Abby spend the night in Ash's sleeping bag, and then

438
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 2: the next day, that is when the new contestant, Ali

439
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 2: Simpson arrived in the jungle. Well, you could see it

440
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: written all over Ash's face as soon as Ali walked in.

441
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: It was this sudden regret that, oh no, there's another

442
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: attract girl that's caught my attention and I've already kind

443
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,479
Speaker 2: of locked myself down with Abby. And he actually pulled Grant,

444
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,199
Speaker 2: Dania and Colin from My Kitchen Rules aside and was

445
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 2: having this private chat with him about how, oh no,

446
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: like you know, one day too late because he spent

447
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: the night with Abby in her sleeping bag, and he

448
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 2: said that Allie's more his type. And then Colin was

449
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: actually saying, look, you better be careful because Abby's got

450
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: a really big following a lot of people like her,

451
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: So this is not going to end well for you

452
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 2: if you kind of make a move on Ali. And

453
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: I think the best part of this conversation was when

454
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: Julia Morris chimed in and she said, what I loved

455
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 2: about the conversation was the unquestioned assumption that it is

456
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: Ash's choice to make as though the romantic success with

457
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: Abby and Ali is just a foregone conclusion and they

458
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: have no choice in the matter whatsoever. Now, these sentiments

459
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 2: were echoed all over social media. I mean, I don't

460
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 2: quite understand the appeal of this guy. I mean, he's

461
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: almost double Allie's eight. Is she even gonna look twice

462
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 2: at this guy and he's having some big moral were

463
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: of picking the right one. It's like they're both probably

464
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: not interested in you anymore. Yeah, well, Alie is not

465
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: interested in him. In fact, she has a boyfriend, so

466
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: he just thinks that, oh, there's a young girl here,

467
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: and I'm I think I'm the best looking guy, so

468
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: of course she's going to be interested in me.

469
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: This really pissed me off.

470
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: The thing I love about them having people like Abby

471
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 2: chatfood on the show is that you know you're going

472
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: to get the extra depth on social media the next morning.

473
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: So she went on Instagram and said, if you think

474
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: your love life is bad, imagine consistently being second best

475
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: on National TV.

476
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

477
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: She also went on to say, yeah, super funny, super good.

478
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: Sorry for trapping you with bad timing. So you asked

479
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: me to stay in your bed and then again the

480
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: next night, Love feeling like charity work. Now. I felt

481
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: really sorry for Abby because, as she pointed out, this

482
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: is literally the third time she's kind of been deemed

483
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: as second best on a reality TV show. Of course,

484
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: we had with Matt Agnew and then Kieran from Bachelor

485
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: and Paradise. And I just feel like the worst bit

486
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: is that she didn't know these conversations were going on.

487
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: And I mean, we all know Abby for her amazing

488
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: feminist rants, but she actually.

489
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: Said that she was too hurt to offer.

490
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: Up a feminist rant about what happened in the episode.

491
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: And she admitted that her self esteem hasn't been good

492
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: lately and I know you all want me to be

493
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: the self love queen, but ah, it's like all time low.

494
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: And I just was kind of a kick in the guts.

495
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think she's just dodged a huge bullet

496
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 2: with this ash guy. I mean one, I have never

497
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: heard of him before.

498
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: Yees, So what is his claim to fame?

499
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: He's a comedian, Well, he just sounds like a bit

500
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 2: of a shit guy. I mean, he is facing charges

501
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: at the moment of recording nude images without consent, and

502
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: he's facing court next month over these allegations. Yeah, so,

503
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: not only has he allegedly taken screenshots of a woman

504
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: during phone sex without her knowledge, be he's also facing

505
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: court on Monday for an apprehended violence border matter with

506
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: the same woman. What's amusing is that no one really

507
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: knew who he was before, but now he's on I'm

508
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: a celebrity.

509
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: Those cases are.

510
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: Going to be really highly covered by the media. I

511
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: think the best part of this is the fact that

512
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Abby and Ali haven't let this little stupid love triangle,

513
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: made up bullshit get in the way of their friendship

514
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: and they've been very supportive of each other on Instagram. Hello,

515
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: my little chickens, Welcome back to another video. Now let's

516
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: get into the influencer round and Kate, it has been

517
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: a huge week for Sophie Kasha. Yeah, I have been

518
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: really enjoying following her week on social media. So it

519
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: started with a family camping trip with her girlfriend Maddie Garrick,

520
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: and it was really nice because Sophie was posting photos

521
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: of herself really embracing her natural body. She was talking

522
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: about how she didn't have tan on, she didn't have

523
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: makeup on, and Maddie was really helping her feel confident

524
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: in herself. So that was really nice and all later

525
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: had a great time on the camping trip. However, while

526
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: she was away, there was a robbery in her house.

527
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: A lot of her sentimental jewelry was stolen, among hundreds

528
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: of dollars worth of other things, and she caught the

529
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: robbers on tape and she shared this on her Instagram

530
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: story to try and identify them. And I thought this

531
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: was pretty interesting. It reminded me of when Roxy Juzenko

532
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: captured and shared the Pooh Jogger. Well it actually, I

533
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: was gonna say it reminded me of when Shanni Grimman's

534
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: house got robbed, and it was purely because people knew

535
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: that she was away. So I suppose that's some of

536
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: the dangers that come with sharing your life on social media. Yeah,

537
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: and it was really creepy because this person staked them

538
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: out like eight times as they were packing the car,

539
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: and then the guy like really brazenly pulled up in

540
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: his car on camera and like just runs into the

541
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: house and runs out.

542
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: It's pretty scary.

543
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: However, fortunately it seems Sophie's weak has gotten better because

544
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: she posted a very cryptic photo of herself and Maddie

545
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: and they were like hugging in their bathers and down

546
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: the bottom in the right hand corner there was a

547
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: ring emoji.

548
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Now, this has sparked engagement.

549
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: Rumors, but if her house was robbed when they've taken

550
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: the engagement ring, surely you're not bringing that ring on

551
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: the campaign trip.

552
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: Well, Maddie doesn't live.

553
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: With Sophie, so it is possible it was at her

554
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: own house. I mean, that's that's presuming that Maddie was

555
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: the one that proposed.

556
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: But a lot of.

557
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: People think that maybe she's just doing this all for attention,

558
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: because that's be honest, the only time I've really seen

559
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: her in the headlines is due to her bad behavior

560
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: during Melbourne's lockdown, So maybe she needs a good news story. Well,

561
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: there's a few theories that, as you say, it is

562
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: in a bid to drum up engagement. So at the moment,

563
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: Instagram is favoring people sending on Insta stories or photos,

564
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: so I think that this sort of thing really would

565
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: help someone grow their following even further. Yeah, well, we'll

566
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: definitely keep an eye on this evolving story. Now, I

567
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: really wanted to include this one, probably because I couldn't

568
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: go on my holiday, so I've been living a little

569
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: bit vicariously through this trip. Jonathan Willy, Jonathan Woolly, Like

570
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: I keep saying that, Jonathan Sour, Jonathan Grimmond, you're starting

571
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: wedding roomers. Yeah, I'm sure they loved that Jonathan Sour

572
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: and influence that. Madison Moolye jetted off to the Hayman

573
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: Islands last Tuesday and it has been quite a funny trip. Now,

574
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: I thought this post was kind of funny. Madison put

575
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: up that her and Jonathan had just ordered room service

576
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: and she was heading off to the shower, so could

577
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: he please aunt to the door anyway. So apparently she's

578
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: in the shower and she hears this commotion outside, people

579
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: knocking on the door. They've got the security guard out there.

580
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: Apparently Jonathan was so in such a deep state of

581
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: sleep that he had completely blacked out, didn't hear the door.

582
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: The people thought that he'd collapsed and needed to be resuscitated.

583
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: They're trying to break down this door. Maybe he was

584
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: watching one of Madison's logs and just fell asleep.

585
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: Well do you know what though.

586
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: Because he posted a few Instagram stories about it's sort

587
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: of like this passive aggressive thing where he's annoyed that

588
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: he's having to wait for Madison to get ready. And

589
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: I feel like we've all been there. We've all been

590
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: that girlfriend that's made their boyfriend wait, or the cousin Sophie.

591
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: Sophie used to make our little cousins wait for hours

592
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: when we went overseas with them for her to get ready.

593
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: It's good practice for them when their girlfriends want to

594
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: take a while to get ready. Anyway, my point was

595
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: that Jonathan's been posting this sort of content and it

596
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: kind of makes me think, you know, those boyfriends that

597
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: managed to tune their girlfriends out. Reese will do it

598
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: to me when he's playing PlayStation or something. I'll ask

599
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: him something, he just tunes it out. Maybe he's so

600
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: good at tuning things out that he's managed to tune

601
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: out the room service. He's probably exhausted from taking photos

602
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: of himself and Madison all day. That would be exhausted,

603
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: it is, that would be so draining. Well, so Jonathan's

604
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: actually copped a bit of flak for this month long

605
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: holiday that he seems to be on, hasn't he. Yeah,

606
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: that's right. I thought this was pretty hilarious. He posted

607
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: up a photo of himself shirtless on the beach, you know,

608
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: his regular sort of content. He's still working, right, and

609
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: he wrote in the caption, so ready for our chip

610
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: away to Hayman already, you know, as if it was like, oh,

611
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: I just can't wait to get such a drag that

612
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: we're at Madison's family's villa anyway. And then someone wrote

613
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: underneath the comment aren't you guys away right now? And

614
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: then all these laughing faces, into which he defended saying

615
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: I'm still in noose, oh, because noose is not like

616
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: a nice trouble. Well, on the topic of boyfriends of Instagram,

617
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: you guys have some news about Sarah's Day's fiance curtails. Yeah, well,

618
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure this one out. He's put

619
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: up on Instagram that he has started this page called

620
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: kJ Till's Adventures Official Now. In the caption, it says

621
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: that he is an adventure extraordinary outdoor professor whatever that is.

622
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: You think they'd have enough Instagram accounts to manage with

623
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: the health code Sunny Sarah's Day his own profile to

624
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: be adding this extra one. I just I just have

625
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: no idea what it's about he has put up all

626
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: these branded overalls, hats and stubbies with this kJ adventure.

627
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: Is he selling his own brand of like adventure gear.

628
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, because there was a photo of him

629
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: and the guy Jai that works for the company, like

630
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: doing his videography stuff. I actually think it might just

631
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: be a fun space where he can post videos about

632
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: all the outdoors the activities he does. And I feel

633
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: like it could be no, but it could be quite

634
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: clever because think of you know, like so' his boyfriend

635
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Brandon watches what is that guy called Brodie? Yeah, he

636
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: watches him, and they men love watching.

637
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: People on jet skis and doing.

638
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Their own account. And I think it's a business. I'm

639
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: going to be cynical. I think that a lot of

640
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: what Sarah and Kirk do usually is linked with money,

641
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: which is no shame, Like, of course, lots of people

642
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: are sound shame for anyway. What I'm saying is, Amy,

643
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: I think you're quite naive to be like, oh now,

644
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: it's just a little fun page that he's putting up,

645
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: like put it on your own page. You've got that

646
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: page to do, Okay, Well, we'll see what happens. I

647
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 2: don't necessarily think the worst in everybody? Can I preface

648
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: we are recording this on a Friday, so for if

649
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: anything happens late developing in this will be sure to

650
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: sort of add a little future recording in. Well, just lastly,

651
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: I love this story. TikTok has sparked a new makeup

652
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: trend and it's faking under eye bags. So teenagers are

653
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Speaker 2: actually painting on dark circles under their eyes.

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Speaker 1: And this is great.

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Speaker 2: News for me because you guys always slam me and

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Speaker 2: say I've got constant bags. So I've got a theory

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00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: why this is being created. Why influencers always trying to

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Speaker 2: prove to us how much I'm doing my emails, I'm

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Speaker 2: so hard working. Maybe now these like bags are a

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Speaker 2: badge of honor, as if they've done a lot of work.

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Speaker 2: Well literally, when I was working at seven as a reporter,

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Speaker 2: I feel like big bags under your eyes, as you said,

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Speaker 2: we're a badge of honor.

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Speaker 1: People would walk in like looking like shit.

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Speaker 2: And just looking so tired and as if you know

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Speaker 2: that meant they were working here than everyone. What's the purpose?

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Speaker 2: But like, is there a purpose to it? Like do

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Speaker 2: we actually know or this is just sort of started happening.

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Speaker 2: Now they've just make up make up tiktoks have just

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Speaker 2: been doing it and it's a new trend. And I

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Speaker 2: suppose because.

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Speaker 1: Teenageople actually want to look tight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think because teenagers generally don't have bags

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Speaker 2: under their eyes. This is the stupidest thing. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's be honest, like it's kind of good. Hopefully this

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Speaker 2: will make people embrace their stretch marks. And you know,

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Speaker 2: they're not embracing it because they're having a ham it up.

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Speaker 2: But it's like people putting freckles on, Like freckles were

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Speaker 2: seen as this, you know, not very nice thing, like

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Speaker 2: we've all got freckles. Oh see. That annoyed me As

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Speaker 2: someone with freckles. I was like, how dare you pretend

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Speaker 2: to have them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but now they've under eye bags? How dare you

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Speaker 1: paint them on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but now it's seen as this beauty trend freckles,

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Speaker 2: which is good. It's shit if you have to paint

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Speaker 2: them on.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I kind of think I'll find I'll find a video

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Speaker 2: of it and posted in the Facebook community because it's

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Speaker 2: pretty funny. Well, I think that's all we have time for.

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Speaker 2: of a cake. So we're you gonna say the bags

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Speaker 2: just a photo of me with big bags under mine, No,

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Speaker 2: it's o cake. It'll be sharing