1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Today's International Guide Dog Day, celebrating the important role guide 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: dogs play and supporting people all around the world. And 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: joining us in the studio is Katie Crawford, who is 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: a guide dog mobility instructor, and Winston, who is a 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: facility dog. Good morning to you both. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Morning to you both, Katie. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: What is the difference between a guide dog and a 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: facility dog. 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: So, a facility dog is a dog that works in 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: different facilities. So, for example, Winston works at Perth Children's 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Court and his primary role is to provide comfort for 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: witnesses or any other people visiting the court. 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: I never even thought of, you know, that sort of 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: place for them to be, but of course. 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've just recently set up the facility dog program 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: and it's working really successfully at Perth Children's Court. And 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: then a guide dog is there primarily to work with 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: people with low vision or no vision as their guide 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: and their mobility age. R. 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Winston's a beautiful black lab guy. Dogs still Labradors. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, most of our guide dogs are pure Labradors or 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Labradors crossed with Golden Retrievers and they're either what we 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: call yellow or black. 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very much a black one. 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: He is a very waggy one. 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, So how old is Winston and when's the sort 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 4: of working age? What's the best age for that process 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: to start. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeap, So Winston's actually a little bit older. He's seven 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: and a half years old. But we start their training 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: right from birth and around the age of two they 33 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: come in, sorry, around the age of fourteen to sixteen months, 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: they come in for their formal training, and all dogs 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: have formal training, and around the age of two to 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: two and a half they go out as a working dog. 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: It's I'm always amazed that people who do take on 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the role of housing a dog that's been traded in 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: because I'm a shocker. 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: I'm one of those people. 41 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: As soon as the animals in my house, I want 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: it to be Yeah, So thank you to those people 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: who are able to do that. Guide dogs are allowed anywhere, 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: aren't they correct? But this doesn't necessarily happen, and I 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: think this is one of the things that we want 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: to highlight on International Guide Dog Day. They are legally 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: allowed to get in your taxi, on your bus, into 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: your restaurant. You don't really get to refuse, but people do, 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: don't they exactly? 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: They do so International Guide Dog's Day for US is 51 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: raising awareness for access rights and all of our working dogs, 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: both guide dogs and assistance dogs. It is an offense 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: to refuse. 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Entry, but a lot of our dogs still. 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: Do get refusal and that has a big impact on 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: the handler, be extremely embarrassing and it can put them 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: off going out and. 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: About debilitating for them. 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're planning a dat maybe you're going 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: to a restaurant or going to a shopping center to 61 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: do some shopping, and you've planned this, and you've planned 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: it because legally you are entitled to do it as 63 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: much as the next person, and then on a whim 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: someone goes, no, not today, might come here. Yeah, that 65 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: would put you off wanting to make those plans. 66 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it can be really upsetting, and especially for 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: guide dogs. The whole purpose is so that people can 68 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: have independence and freedom and go anywhere that they're like, 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: and when they're turned away it can be quite distressing 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: for some. 71 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely teddy there. 72 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: I take it this training is really quite full on 73 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: and comprehensive, and there'd be the odd dog that doesn't 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 4: make it through. 75 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: I take it correct. Correct. 76 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: We do have dogs that are reclassified into different roles. 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: Not all dogs are suited as guides. The training is 78 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: quite intense and complex. It starts from when they're born basically, 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: but they go into their formal training and learn guiding 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: skills around the age of sixteen months. 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 82 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: So sometimes just the temperament of a certain dog just yeah. So, yeah, 83 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: we have different roles for different dogs. 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: We have obviously, Winston's a facility dog and he's a 85 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: beautiful natured boy, very gentle and calm and perfect nature 86 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: working in the children's court. And we have other dogs 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: at suit being an autism assistance dog as well. 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Maybe some dogs are just too cuddly because they do 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: have to you know, they have to think I'm at work, 90 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: I have to end. 91 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: They might just want to go and put their head 92 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: on you know, someone's respon. They haven't failed as a dog. 93 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: And we've got the role of a companion dog. So 94 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: these dogs go out as companions to people who may 95 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: have illness or disability. 96 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: How can It's a nonprofit organization, isn't it? 97 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: How can people support it? 98 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? So we've got lots of different fundraising programs that 99 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: people can support us by. It costs over fifty thousand 100 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: dollars to greed, raise and train a guide dog. So 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: people can sponsor a dog and name a dog. But 102 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: we also have people who can regularly donate with the 103 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: put Pals program. We have lots of collection boxes around 104 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: WA and people can hold events well and do fundraising events. 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: What a great gift for you know? 106 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: And how are you looking for a gift for someone 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: that you know has everything? You don't know what to 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: gear them to sponsor a dog in their name and 109 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: then they can. Yeah, that's a gift that keeps on giving. 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: It is and it's nice because it's then a story 111 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 2: behind each dog and obviously the handle handle of knights 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: to know how the dog was named, and it's usually 113 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: after a person love. And also we have a lot 114 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: of people who leave a gift in their will. 115 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, absolutely, yes, people they love for animals. So 116 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: how did you get involved in this code because we 117 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: can see your passion. 118 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, well it's a bit of a story. I actually 119 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: you can probably tell them from the UK. So I 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: originally worked for guide dogs in England, but I have 121 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: grown up with guide dogs in my family because my 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: mum was blind herself, so I've always sort of lived 123 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: around guide dogs and had a passion for it, and yeah, 124 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: just ended up working for Guide Dogs UK and training 125 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: up to be a Guide Dog mobility instructor. 126 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: Brilliant. 127 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's a beautiful, wonderful, fantastic thing you do. And 128 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much for bringing Winston in today. 129 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: It is welcome. He's enjoyed himself. 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Said you're not to take Winston the International Guide Dog 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: Day and the message today is just remember guide dogs 132 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: are welcome anywhere in fake paper. Yeah they are legally 133 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: allowed anywhere, but they're welcome. 134 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: And if there's any way you can give, that would 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: be wonderful. It doesn't have to be thousands of dollars 136 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: or anything, but you can get them involved and just 137 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: give a bit and you might have been able to 138 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: go that next step. 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: And yeah and nothing come. We're hanging out at Belmont 140 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Forum today. 141 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: So they'll be with Winston. Yeah, so you've got to 142 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: go and check your wish this gortous. Winston's got a 143 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: big day, Malti. Oh he loves it. Katie, Thank you. 144 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: So much, Thank you very much for having all of us. 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: Katie