WEBVTT - The Foods That Will Last During The Apocalypse 🧟

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everyone, it's Flexing Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>Hang off it. You look at your face? Okay, is

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<v Speaker 3>not talking to me? I am having talking to Brook producer.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what happened Brook.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I say hello, oh, goodbye, Brook gives me this

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<v Speaker 2>little snider look as if I'm being an absolute clown.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm literally just looking.

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<v Speaker 2>We got one of these things going on in school,

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<v Speaker 2>where like someone looks at you and you can't stop laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stop having emotional outbursts.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've said it so many times, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>believe it. What were we talking about in one of

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<v Speaker 3>the other episodes that the illusory effect, or we hear something,

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<v Speaker 3>the more likely we are to believe it's true. You

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<v Speaker 3>keep telling us, we keep looking at you, so you

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<v Speaker 3>believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paranoid. Anyway, today's podcast, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how much income.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the happiness income threshold. Some studies came out in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ten in the US and then was brought back

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<v Speaker 3>to life revived in twenty twenty one. I have no doubt,

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<v Speaker 3>due to COVID and other situations that we're impacting people's income.

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<v Speaker 3>But back in the day, they deduced that there was

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<v Speaker 3>a certain number of certain number of cash flows per

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<v Speaker 3>year that would help you maintain a very basic level

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<v Speaker 3>of happiness and freem and ire debating whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>that is true or not true for us, and conceptually,

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<v Speaker 3>if there was a number, what would it be? Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get it flex and frooms fle Sie.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to talk about the apocalypse?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we love it? Now? Before you were just humoring me,

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<v Speaker 3>but now you love it. That's the conversion process.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a conversion And I also have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>respect for my co hosts. So I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get involved in things that you liked, to have more

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<v Speaker 2>in common with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel the same pressure and.

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<v Speaker 2>It shows well. Fart Content Place tell us a story

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<v Speaker 2>about what happens when you do diarrhea. So I came

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<v Speaker 2>across this post on Reddit and this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you frequent and read it these days? There's been

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<v Speaker 3>a specific pipeline, And I don't know when I started.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it started in twenty fifteen. For me, I

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<v Speaker 2>was going for some relationship advice, then got myself on

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<v Speaker 2>the front page, like the homepage, and started getting interested

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<v Speaker 2>in other little links and crypto. So I came across

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<v Speaker 2>this post which was a bottle of vegemite, glass jar

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<v Speaker 2>of vegemite, and on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a glass jar? Bottle? Oh, you make it

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<v Speaker 3>too easy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a glass jar and the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 2>glass shart it had its expiry date. Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know when that expiry date was?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I guess? Yeah? Ninety four?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so close ninety five?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, it's this bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>This glass shard came to be in the uninety nine five,

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<v Speaker 2>which was when I was born. You were one years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And what we found out in looking at the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the comments pointed out that vegemite never expires,

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<v Speaker 2>and it never expires because it's full of salt.

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<v Speaker 3>Never well, had the picture tell you that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think someone did some googling and

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly vegemite never expire.

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<v Speaker 3>A bunch of kitchen start eating sixty year old VEGEMI

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<v Speaker 3>you like, I don't know, Reddit said.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it turns out vegemite is not the only food

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that supposedly never goes off. Here are some others

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<v Speaker 2>and this is for you to start going and buying

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<v Speaker 2>pubbing the apocalypse eventually does occur.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in it now, but I won't get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, tell me if you got these in new cupboard honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey may crystallize over time, but it won't actually expire

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<v Speaker 2>or become unusual because of course it's made from the

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<v Speaker 2>natural elements.

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<v Speaker 3>Do natural elements not expire?

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<v Speaker 2>Some like my spirits? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Sugar, both white and brown sugar can be used indefinitely

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<v Speaker 2>if they're stored in an airtime container, white rice, salt,

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<v Speaker 2>corn starch, vinegar, pure vanilla extract, maple syrup, vinegar, soy sauce,

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<v Speaker 2>powdered milk, and popcorn.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like to be essential.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can do a bunch of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of vitamins and minerals there. Definitely bake a cake,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, a mug.

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<v Speaker 3>Cake, scones, damper, pretty little pancake. I might need eggs, No, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need eggs anyway. That's some really useful information that

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be taking a heat of in the next ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, now is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time stop it. I don't know how you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>an apocalypse so you can still find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>come to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, we're gonna talk about that, and I'm in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 3>What did I say? Personal? Hell, I know the apocalypse

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<v Speaker 3>is happening. Everyone's like, Eh, let's make jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on cada.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that sound of FLEXI? It's the sound of starting

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<v Speaker 2>a new segment, cracking it open. And this was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it away, FORMI have you ever thought well and

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<v Speaker 3>hard and diligently about how much money you actually need

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<v Speaker 3>to mean happiness?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, it's a very loaded question. My first initial thought

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<v Speaker 2>is I need to own a house that I own

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<v Speaker 2>out right. Okay, therefore it's collateral.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me a number, babe, give me a number. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not for you the average person. How much money think

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<v Speaker 3>the average person needs per year? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Too many variables for me, for someone my age, in

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<v Speaker 2>my life circumstance. The minimum that I need to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>My rent right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Is oh, please please.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't extrapolate money's like as they put a number

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<v Speaker 2>to it. No, because I can't extrapolate, extrapolate like money's

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<v Speaker 2>inherent value for verse, like my own ego. If I

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<v Speaker 2>find it very difficult to separate the two. So therefore

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a number. If I'm picking a number

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<v Speaker 2>that i'd love, a million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, not the question I asked, Thank you. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's this thing called a happiness income threshold, and it is,

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<v Speaker 3>as I described, the amount of money one needs to

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<v Speaker 3>make to maintain a base level of happiness. Now, for

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<v Speaker 3>I only have us darted for this, so rip to

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who's not in the US, all of us listening.

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<v Speaker 3>But according to a study done in twenty ten, the

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<v Speaker 3>average US citizen would need seventy five thousand dollars per

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<v Speaker 3>year to be happy. And at the time, fifty k

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<v Speaker 3>was the median income. So it's about, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a quarter more than you would anticipate. Now you said

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<v Speaker 3>a million dollars is what you'd need to be happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you're quite happy now with what you're making,

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<v Speaker 3>so at about twenty five percent on top of that'd

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<v Speaker 3>be quite good. And that's just per year. Now, the

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<v Speaker 3>important thing there is to know is there is an

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<v Speaker 3>income threshold for everyone. There is a point in time

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<v Speaker 3>that if your income drops below that threshold, no matter

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<v Speaker 3>what it is, you will be unhappy about it. So

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<v Speaker 3>the solution is figure out what it is diligently, not

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<v Speaker 3>so you can budget, but just so you know. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you know your income threshold is fifty k, like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is important for you to remember. So going below

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<v Speaker 3>it is not just like that wouldn't be chill. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to affect your your ability to conjure up happiness

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Find it very hard to reconcile with because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people can't dictate how much they get paid. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have enough time to take a second job, Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more hopeful to think this is the

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<v Speaker 2>number like.

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<v Speaker 3>For you just that same like people have said this

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<v Speaker 3>who the people who did the study, They've said this

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<v Speaker 3>is the number I would need to maintain happiness because

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<v Speaker 3>they've realized that their happiness is tied to well, if

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<v Speaker 3>I can pay my rent and if I can buy

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<v Speaker 3>nice things, and if I can do this at a minimum,

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<v Speaker 3>this number would be good for me. And maybe why

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<v Speaker 3>you're struggling with it is because it's conceptual for you,

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<v Speaker 3>where a lot of people money is practical.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, no, I'm actually thinking about the practicalities of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Says who's had a million dollars to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like doing manifestation. No. I think, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have a certain amount of money, then

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be happy because all these other

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<v Speaker 2>pressures start happening. And also because to budget and take

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<v Speaker 2>things that promote happiness, like going on holidays, you need

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<v Speaker 2>a certain money money to do that, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people can't. So I understand the practicalities

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But me personally, as I said, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>extrapolate money's actual value from my ego, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunities to make more money at times.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, elon.

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<v Speaker 2>Crypto gottair.

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<v Speaker 3>First it was Bezos and now it's fumy musk like

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<v Speaker 3>to get around. I'm ragging on you, Okay, okay, wrap

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<v Speaker 3>it up hard sometimes. So the question is how much

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<v Speaker 3>money does one need to be happy? It's philosophical because

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<v Speaker 3>the question, as Fremis explained, cannot be answered simply yes

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<v Speaker 3>at all. But based on studies they can deduce that well,

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty ten, they could for Americans that seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>K would be enough to sustain happiness because it would

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<v Speaker 3>take into consideration all of a person's basic fundamental needs.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're not talking like food, water, whatever, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>little luxuries and things that would keep you happy. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>for me, the contradiction is, if we don't know the

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<v Speaker 3>amount of money it's going to take to feel a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of happiness, then is it counterintuitive to tie in

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<v Speaker 3>success to money in any capacity? Perhaps? Right, because if

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<v Speaker 3>I could say, you know, a million flatter years is

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<v Speaker 3>what it's going to take, then working towards a million

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<v Speaker 3>flat a year is what it's going to take, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if one hundred k year is what it's going to take.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is not this is not to say that

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<v Speaker 3>there are things outside of money that don't make you happy,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're presuming that income is tied to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of what's generating our happiness right now. And so if

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<v Speaker 3>we know the number, that we can work towards it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it gives us also the buffer to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the freedom that the money will give us, gives us

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<v Speaker 3>like the emotional energy to work on life's greater issues

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<v Speaker 3>that money cannot fix. But if there is no number,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's this infinite amount of money and this concept

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<v Speaker 3>that's tied to so much more than just the practicalities

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<v Speaker 3>of life, like ego and pride and whatever, then how

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<v Speaker 3>do you manage that for yourself? And like you in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>m I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's always important to maintain financial literacy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes, especially when things aren't going your way, it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to just turn a blind eye and also like

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<v Speaker 2>to be financially literally you need reasons why, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like for certain people, it's easy to be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I need more money, so I'm gonna work harder, But

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<v Speaker 2>for the vast majority of people that's not possible. So

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<v Speaker 2>therefore it's a little bit depressing to like if you

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<v Speaker 2>were to sit down and actually budget and figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what you need. For a lot of people that don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the mobility to then get that money, sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>nice to be going in blind, going way blind, like

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<v Speaker 2>just vibing out, like just getting your paycheck and like

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<v Speaker 2>adapting your sense of happiness rather than getting more money

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<v Speaker 2>because I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I see, I see what you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a more accurate discussion and metric would be

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<v Speaker 2>like how little money do you need to be happy? Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the total essentials? Because so often, like for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like I need to make this amount of money.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's say some tragedy befalls me.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna happen, Okay, But if it were, I

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<v Speaker 2>think about that, because I need to think about like

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<v Speaker 2>if I didn't, if I didn't have enough money to

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<v Speaker 2>do X y Z.

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<v Speaker 3>The cloud did not sustain itself. If if you do

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<v Speaker 3>not mutate or replicate.

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<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, it might feel a bit shit. But so

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<v Speaker 2>long as you keep I think, so long as you

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<v Speaker 2>keep an idea of like what is actually integrity, happiness,

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<v Speaker 2>and then also what gives you benefits that you now

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<v Speaker 2>feel as if you deserve that. If I had to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it clearly for myself, I'd be like, so

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<v Speaker 2>long as I can find a way to go home

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<v Speaker 2>to Melbourne, so long as I can either live somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>close to my friends or have a car to get

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<v Speaker 2>me there. So long as I had money to like

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<v Speaker 2>buy a sandwich from the shop which is this place,

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<v Speaker 2>the shop wine bars, this place that my friends live

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<v Speaker 2>near that I love to go do decide. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important for anyone. Even if you

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<v Speaker 2>decide that you need a million dollars as a paycheck

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<v Speaker 2>each here to make you happy. It's a fun exercise

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what is the absolute bare minimum moneyed

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<v Speaker 2>because therefore, you know you might not get down to

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<v Speaker 2>the bare minimum, but then you can fully appreciate the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you use with your disposable income.

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<v Speaker 3>Parent And we also know happiness is fleeting anyway, so

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<v Speaker 3>inspire for.

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<v Speaker 2>That we need to interrogate what happiness is before that

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<v Speaker 2>question has any like real I guess there needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be more parameters around that question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that most people recognize happiness to be

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<v Speaker 3>a fleeting like gift, right, like a moment brought me

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<v Speaker 3>happiness and it's going to go away, and another moment

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<v Speaker 3>might bring me happiness. And they talk about key areas

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<v Speaker 3>of life that do that, like marriage, kids, moving into

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<v Speaker 3>a new place, going on a vacation with your friends.

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<v Speaker 3>These are all things that can trigger happiness for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and the average person isn't maintaining or sustaining and underlying

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm happy every day all the time. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think what the question is kind of asking is what

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<v Speaker 3>is it going to cost for you to maintain those

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<v Speaker 3>areas of your life, like for you to have enough

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<v Speaker 3>income to even facilitate dating, you know, because that's an

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<v Speaker 3>expensive practice if you're doing it properly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a real killer. Hope, I don't talk about it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A real killer. Similarly, you know, if you know that

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<v Speaker 3>you need a little girls, trippy little Europe, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>once once every couple of years, and what's that going

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<v Speaker 3>to cost? And these days a pretty penny m.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of a euro troop September me start saving doll

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going into that blind. I don't have a budget.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have savings? Yeah? Okay, good, but like but like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this like your life savings or like the holiday savings?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't have any delineage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course now all goes into one.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm sure in the back of my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to buy a jacket, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna wait till I go to Europe, go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Mater Stolls in London.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, part of a jacket. You're a sensible slender anywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You're not?

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<v Speaker 2>I am. Currently I'm spending a lot of money on food.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you love food?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, just after going many years of like

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<v Speaker 2>not buying it and fully home prepping. My meals were

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<v Speaker 2>very scant.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're eating out? Oh yeah, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like I'm in this moment in my life

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<v Speaker 2>room prioritizing personal happiness because I'm single and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>I'm unlearning a lot of like habits that actually brought

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<v Speaker 2>me a lot of anxiety. I need to figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>but essentially with that feeling of like I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>this because tomorrow I've got to wake up at this time,

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<v Speaker 2>like recalibrating how important that is to you, and like

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<v Speaker 2>going into that blind and feeling all of this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of anxiety that if I take away the anxiety, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like X y Z, all of these

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<v Speaker 2>negative emotions. When in actuality, if you get over the

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<v Speaker 2>hump of feeling like, oh, I'm anxious to not be anxious,

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<v Speaker 2>then you become less anxious. This is a pipeline that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yet to put into words, but I feel it

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<v Speaker 2>in my brain and I think it has to to

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<v Speaker 2>do with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. We'll talk about it more when you

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<v Speaker 3>can figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds good, so sweetie, to anyone listening to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>my ass has everyone's pissed me off about my stuttering.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not very nice, guys. Okay, cut the tape. Cut

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<v Speaker 2>the tape.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's every second week we're hearing about

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<v Speaker 3>how Nordic countries are a utopia of their own, the

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<v Speaker 3>best place to be for various reasons of which I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot get into because I've forgotten. But you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>been said before, no need to fact check now. I

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<v Speaker 3>found out recently, though, that in Denmark and other Nordic

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<v Speaker 3>countries it is, and I quote common to let babies

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<v Speaker 3>nap alone outdoors even when temperatures reach negative sixteen degrees Fahrenheim.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you might be asking, what's negative sixteen degrees Fahrenheim.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen more percent of ice?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll answer that and celsius or.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one hundred and sixty percent more ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh. Like it's negative twenty six degrees celsius. It's cold,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very cold. And I was googling, like why that

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<v Speaker 3>would happen? What for what reason would a baby need

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep outside when it's that cold or ever? But

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<v Speaker 3>apparently fresh air can induce a deep slumber and also

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<v Speaker 3>decrease the exposure to germs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get into a deep smer buck, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>it starts. You stop, you start breathing less when you

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<v Speaker 2>are phrasing.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like people who die on Mount Everest.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, is that why when people are dying

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<v Speaker 3>they start yawning heaps? Because I know that yawning happens,

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<v Speaker 3>not just like when you're about to carck it, but

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in an unsavory environment and you notice someone yawning,

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<v Speaker 3>snap them awake, because yawning is what happens when you're

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<v Speaker 3>not breathing regularly, not getting enough air. You're lunky do big. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So if you ask sleepy, breathe deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Not if you've got the death right, although you across

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<v Speaker 2>what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even get into it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're listening to flex and Frooms on keda Flexi.

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<v Speaker 2>On Saturday, I went to a concert, a live show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was at a venue called Golden Age. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a cinema and a bar in Surrey Hills, which is

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney's like CBD adjacent suburb. Yeah, very cool. And I

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<v Speaker 2>went with my frand and someone that I know is

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<v Speaker 2>playing their show. It's a very intimate little venue, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably fits fifty people tops. It's very like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>style sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>Moody, velvet mood light, warm tone, brownie ready, very decadent,

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<v Speaker 3>indulgent and sexy. It's gorgeous, like a great first date place.

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<v Speaker 3>So many a first date.

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<v Speaker 2>There, you have really into that, but we don't. So

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<v Speaker 2>at this concert. The person's music is electronic experimental. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so as that translates people who are maybe not have

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<v Speaker 2>very like specific genres that they like, like rock or

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<v Speaker 2>kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>For the space, you'd expect it to be like jazzy, chill,

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<v Speaker 3>like shoe gaze, maybe some slow alternative R and B,

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<v Speaker 3>but definitely not a venue that you'd expect electronic music

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<v Speaker 3>to be playing out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, not at all. So I was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the stage and in front of the stage was a

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<v Speaker 2>booth with the people in the booth their back was

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<v Speaker 2>turned to the stage, and they're talking. It's for women

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<v Speaker 2>i'd say in their mid forties or fifties, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just gasbagging, having a good time. They clearly didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that there was going to be a gig on. The

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<v Speaker 2>person who is the performer starts performing. So the performer, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the performer starts and we can see this as

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<v Speaker 2>the audience. But apparently the woman. The women in these

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<v Speaker 2>booth would look up at him and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like give him full greases.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he was disrupting their time, as if he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>the person everyone else in the venues there.

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<v Speaker 2>To see precisely. And then like two songs in, he

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<v Speaker 2>looks down at them and he says, what was the

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<v Speaker 2>look he gave me earlier? Like, why are we looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me like you hate me?

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<v Speaker 3>Not breaking the fourth wall?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, and they're kind of like what they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of laughing. Two more songs in and he goes, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys look like you're enjoying it now again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, So at this point, is it a bit

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<v Speaker 3>or like a or they've made a face that's like

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps irritated him, and he's gone to address it again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very hard for me to understand. Their performers are

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<v Speaker 2>very funny guy. He's also kind of like a comedian,

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<v Speaker 2>So it felt like a bit that maybe he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>landing with them and was coming across as aggressive, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know that his tone is like sarcastic. He asked them, no, seriously, seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>what what pissed you off so much? And then they

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<v Speaker 2>get up and leave the venue, but before they leave

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<v Speaker 2>the venue, there's a curtain that is pulled back for

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<v Speaker 2>the stage. They pull the curtain.

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<v Speaker 3>So as to like closely curtain on him, Yeah, closer,

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<v Speaker 3>like the show's over, the parties leaving. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it got me thinking, like, should have he not

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<v Speaker 2>said anything? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, so what are you vibing from this scenario? Like

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<v Speaker 3>your instinct is saying who's in the wrong, just from

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<v Speaker 3>the vibe, not without any of the thinking and the contextualizing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the venue could have played a bigger part.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, Okay, you think he was in the wrong. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say because he's no friend. No, not

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<v Speaker 3>at all, not.

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<v Speaker 2>At all, not at all. But I think a way

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<v Speaker 2>to mitigate any of the bad feelings between the two

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<v Speaker 2>of them would have been a better understanding of what

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<v Speaker 2>than I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm not talking about what could have been

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<v Speaker 3>done conceptually, Like in the space when you're seeing the

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<v Speaker 3>performer having a bit of a moment with the guests,

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<v Speaker 3>the guest having met with a performer, who do you

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<v Speaker 3>think should have or could have managed that better?

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<v Speaker 2>Technically? I side with the performer, and I think them

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<v Speaker 2>crossing the line and pulling the curtain was really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a moment of I think they would regret

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<v Speaker 2>it the next day. However, I do think as well

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<v Speaker 2>that people obviously didn't understand who the person wasn't performing.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't get their sense of humor. And to be

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<v Speaker 2>asked twice like I thought you hated it is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the position that they were sitting on. They were

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<v Speaker 2>essentially on the stage, Like they're a step down from

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<v Speaker 2>the stage, yeah, looking out to the audience and they're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing everyone kind of like missing and laughing. So you

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<v Speaker 2>probably would feel very targeted. You wouldn't want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>there in case he's gonna like rip into a third time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the way you've told the story, it makes

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<v Speaker 3>it something the performance a bit of like didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>handle that well because realistically, right, like I've been a

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<v Speaker 3>DJ for how many years? If someone gives me a

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<v Speaker 3>funny look on the stage, the last thing I would

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<v Speaker 3>do is get a mic and call them out, because

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm the entertainment, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it is my job to be of service. If someone

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like it, that's all good. They'll figure it out themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>So in that instance, like obviously I'm not a singer,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a lot more personal when someone's like looking

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<v Speaker 3>at you and you're singing at them. But I would

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<v Speaker 3>have thought that as a performer that kind of stuff happened.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was a comedy show, I'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're heckling, Like it's a two way thing, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think that was strange. And then to bring it up

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<v Speaker 3>a second and third time, I would feel because, like,

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<v Speaker 3>can someone not make a face if they really don't

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<v Speaker 3>like it? Like, is that the kind of hostile? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it that hostile that someone can't make a face without

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<v Speaker 3>fear of the actual performer stopping the performance to be like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>what was that you looked at me? Funny? Like that

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<v Speaker 3>is so cook to me. I'd be like, okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>let me go the bathroom so I can emote and they

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<v Speaker 3>can come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm using this amazing platform we've been given to

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<v Speaker 3>take a stand against something that's quite close to my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been something that I've carried for the bulk of

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<v Speaker 3>my life. I feel like I've been on the front

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<v Speaker 3>line in the trenches, battling on my own. But now

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<v Speaker 3>it's time to share the burden. I am a night out.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be up busy making things happen at

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<v Speaker 3>four am. I want to go to sleep at six

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<v Speaker 3>and not get up till one, and that should be

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<v Speaker 3>my right. But unfortunately the Internet that we have been

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<v Speaker 3>raised on is chock full of anti night our propaganda,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's by design because the corporations want you working.

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<v Speaker 3>They want you up at eight so you can be

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<v Speaker 3>at work at nine to six so they can make

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<v Speaker 3>money off your labor.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought about it like that, par That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here for. And what has you thinking about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you seem to have been comfortable with doing this

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<v Speaker 2>for as long as I've known you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm still comfortable with it now, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make others more comfortable so I can

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<v Speaker 3>change the world and not have to answer emails from

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<v Speaker 3>nine to five pm. It's a personal gripe. But we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it last week briefly, and somebody sent me

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<v Speaker 3>in a message that I think is fascinating. They're a

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<v Speaker 3>student who has delayed sleep phase disorder, which basically means

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<v Speaker 3>that your sleep is delayed by two hours or more

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<v Speaker 3>beyond what is considered to be an acceptable or conventional

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<v Speaker 3>sleep time. So I guess anything after midnight I guess

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<v Speaker 3>would be considered delayed sleephase disorder. But I digress. They

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<v Speaker 3>went to a sleep therapist who suggested a really absurd

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<v Speaker 3>treatment for this because this person wants to try and

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<v Speaker 3>figure out what they don't want to be a night

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<v Speaker 3>out they want to leave, and I think that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to leave the cult. They want to leave

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<v Speaker 3>the cult night out. I get that. You know it's

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<v Speaker 3>not for everyone. It's a lifestyle, baby says, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know anyway. So the treatment is called chronotherapy, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to reset your circadian rhythm. In one week. You

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<v Speaker 3>choose what time you want to go to bed, and

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<v Speaker 3>for this person, it's midnight. So you delay your bedtime

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<v Speaker 3>each night and don't set an alarm and just sleep

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<v Speaker 3>until you wake up. That is rogue. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I could do that. For example, on the night one,

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<v Speaker 3>bedtime is three am, night two, six am night, three

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<v Speaker 3>nine am, night four midday night five three pm night six,

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<v Speaker 3>six pm, night seven nine pm, and finally on night eight,

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<v Speaker 3>bedtime is twelve am. And then you've allegedly reset your

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<v Speaker 3>circadian rhythm to align with your stupid UNI or work now.

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<v Speaker 3>Will I try this? No, because I'm quite happy with

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<v Speaker 3>what I've got. But if this is the only solution

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<v Speaker 3>and it actually works, it's not that bad of a process.

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<v Speaker 3>It only means that you can't live your life for

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<v Speaker 3>a full week. M Imagine taking and your leave to

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<v Speaker 3>reset your sleep schedule. What kind of lifestyle is that?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like rebooting your internal computer something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm skeptical of what the changing each day the sleep time.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems so counterintuitive to any kind of health advice.

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<v Speaker 3>I think because you get so exhausted, But I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's because you exhaust yourself that by the time you

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<v Speaker 3>get to day eight, sleeping at the time that you've

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<v Speaker 3>prescribed for yourself feels like a relief because I think, what,

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<v Speaker 3>or from my experience, what is delaying my sleep? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this idea that I feel really tired at, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, nine, ten eleven, And then I pushed through

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to stay up and read, and I

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<v Speaker 3>want to stay up and make things, and I want

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<v Speaker 3>to watch TikTok, And then I missed that schedule of tiredness,

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<v Speaker 3>and then by the time it's five, I'm not that tired,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's no motivation to sleep anymore. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I was truly exhausted at eight pm, I will sleep

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<v Speaker 3>at apm. I've done that before, but I'm just not

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<v Speaker 3>Would you ever go to a sleep doctor out of

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<v Speaker 3>curiosity now unless I needed it? But I don't need

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<v Speaker 3>it because nothing's wrong with me and nothing's wrong with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Night owl.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely becoming a night hours I get older. What

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<v Speaker 2>time you go to bed In the past few nights,

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<v Speaker 2>I did like one or two am.

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<v Speaker 3>That's big dog behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's still still going to sleep twelve hours. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you at one pm.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to it must Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that you're changing the conversation. I also want

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<v Speaker 2>to make it clear to everybody that if you use Gmail,

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<v Speaker 2>you can schedule sense. So I'm working till one thirty am.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'm sending the email at eight am, so like

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<v Speaker 2>a night our even more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sending it at once. I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't catch me at eleven am, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what it was. I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on da Flex.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna story for you. This comes courtesy of the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times. As you know, I've got beef of

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times because I made it a very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for me to cancel my subscription.

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<v Speaker 3>And you still have been canceled. Nah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is one of the three articles.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you have canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>The minute someone makes it harder for me to do something,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going in even harder because i know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do to me, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>take it exactly. This is a story from the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times, and essentially it says scientist essentially, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to read off the page, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. Scientists have found that they can revive

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<v Speaker 2>cells in dead pigs. It's a reversible form of death.

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers who previously revived some brain cells in dead pigs

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<v Speaker 2>succeeded in repeating the process in more organs. So the

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<v Speaker 2>pigs had been lying dead in a lab for an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>No blood was circulating in their bodies, their hearts were

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<v Speaker 2>still and their brain waves flat. Then a group of

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<v Speaker 2>Yale scientists pumped a custom made solution into the pigs

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<v Speaker 2>bodies with a device similar to a heart lung machine.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened next adds questions for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to read it. Astra hadn't looked at once.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ruggling. No, what happened next makes scientists reconsider the

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<v Speaker 2>wall between life and death. So what this essentially means

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<v Speaker 2>for humans is that perhaps we could get transplants of

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<v Speaker 2>organs from pigs.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what, That's not what I thought was gonna happen

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think was gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>That if you could, if you could activate previously dead

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<v Speaker 3>cells in different parts of your body, then you could

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<v Speaker 3>do the same for a human. And really we only

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<v Speaker 3>need our brain in our heart. So if the brain

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna then you just like zap it and then

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<v Speaker 3>it come back to life like the piglies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I see.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want a pig's heart in my heart. What's

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with mine?

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking that as well, Like if I needed

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<v Speaker 2>a organ transplant, I had to get it from a pig.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm considering whether it's worth sticking around. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I know exactly what you mean. It's that appealing, But

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<v Speaker 3>you know next minutes what the article said at all?

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<v Speaker 3>You just haven't read it the whole way through no no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess into species transplants is what through me

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<v Speaker 3>saying the article is seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more they're going to use the testing

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<v Speaker 2>it on pigs, and if they can figure out a

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<v Speaker 2>solution and a technology that can bring say a heart

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<v Speaker 2>back to life, they might be using it on a human.

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<v Speaker 2>But essentially, if I die and ambout for a whole day,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'm keen to come back because something

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<v Speaker 2>surely happens to your brain. Like imagine if you got

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<v Speaker 2>revived at your completely different personality.

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<v Speaker 3>How would you know them? Yeah, but you bring me back.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you think. I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You come back speaking Dutch, all the dormant Dutch, the

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<v Speaker 2>drilling brain.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm down for that. All right, Well, that's fascinating. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me know if there's an update for that. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like all of these scientific explorations are talking points for

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<v Speaker 3>news articles and they don't come to life, Like where

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<v Speaker 3>the havocrs? But where are they? Because we've been talking

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<v Speaker 3>about those since the eighties and yet the cars are

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<v Speaker 3>still on the road. I need to see the other

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<v Speaker 3>cars at minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I say, don't reinvent the wheel.

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