1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. 5 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: Oh hello, and welcome to the one hundredth episode of 6 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: Feliously Failing with Lola Berry. I am, of course the 7 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Vosso mat sofo Hey Sexy Legs interviewing Lola today. 8 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: You are for our hundreds. 9 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to your own podcast. How are you? 10 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you? How are you? 11 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. 12 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: We are currently nestled down and bunkered down in Newcastle 13 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: and by the time this hundred hundredth episode comes out, 14 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: hopefully we're back in Bangalow at our home. I'm very excited, 15 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: which is also flooding right now. Yes, apparently, I've been 16 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: looking at photos on the community Facebook group. Matt is 17 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: obsessed with the Bangalow community Facebook group. I cannot tell you. 18 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: It's like the residence group, so I keep up to 19 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: date with what's going on. 20 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: Is it true they post photos of snakes? 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen any photos of snakes, but a 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: lot of residents like, oh, there's a snake in my backyard, 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: or I've saw a snake on blah blah blah road, 24 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: or someone come help me, there's a snake out in 25 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: front of my house. 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the snakes of Bangalow. By the way, 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: we've not seen one yet though not in Bangers. We 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: saw one at Crystal Castle or whip Snake. And then 29 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: we saw an eastern brown snake getting rescued at Corumba 30 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: and Wildlife Hospital. 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Yes we did. That was very interesting. 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Can you hear it? Is that a vacuum out? We're 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: just INBNB in Newcastle because we got caught in the 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: floods two days ago. We were driving from Sydney back 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: home to Byron Bay and we got caught in an 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: area called Tarre where we saw literally a car in 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: what should have part merged in. Yeah, it looked like 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: it was in a lake, not a paddock and there's 39 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: like what two or three inches of car left. 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to talk a lot. Well, I can 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: hear that. I can hear the member. 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Didn't we see the anyway? And then we were in 43 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: the area where if you saw that video of the 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: house floating down the river in Tarre. That's where we were. 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: We got told to sleep in our cars on the 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: side of the road at Pacific Highway, which is still 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: closed as we record this. So we've extended our stay 48 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: in Newcastle for a few more days and hopefully by Friday, 49 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: which is when this hundred episode will come out, hopefully. 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: Boscokay, who was a smart one to drive back to Newcastle? 51 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was all for the sleeping in the car adventure. 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: No way. No. 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, let's just sleep in that car 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: and McDonald's car park. And Boss was like, I'm gonna 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: have a panic attack if that's the case. And you 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: just put cold. 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: And lucky because we would have been there for five days. 58 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yeah. 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: Anyway, digress, this is your one hundredth episode, Boss, it 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: is Boss. 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: How do you feel so you're interviewing me? Ah, I 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: can't believe we're already at one hundred. The thing that 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: and I know I've said this before, the thing that 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: blows me away about this pod is. 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: How much I've fallen in love. 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: With making a pod, to the point that we've inspired 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: other people to make a pod, Like are we sitting 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: in talk No, but like, I've facilitated other people to 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: be working with you when you have it at their pods, 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, so I just love it so much 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: more than I expected to. If that sounds and that 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: sounds really weird. 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: No, it's great. 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh the level's wrong, I see. 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: No, just having a quick look. 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: He's checking the levels, all right. 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: So we should maybe get started. 78 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: So, just so you know, for the premise of this interview, 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: so usually a Friday episode is a diary check in, 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: and usually we do it from Byron Bay, although there's 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: been a few Sydney ones because of travel and whatnot. 82 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: But this episode, Bosco's going to going to interview me, 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: although I'm talking like the host. 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: Right now, you are you are taking over my podcast 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: with you. 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Okay, take it away, I will see. 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: So I think that we should start at the very beginning, okay, 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: with the first question being what made you want to 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: start a podcast? 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: Few things, so we were talking about it for ages 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: before we actually did it. I'm pretty sure it was 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: my agents that like, like, do you want to do one? 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: So we were having a few conversations early on with 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: my agents. So out to Lauren and Rachel for actually 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: planning the seed, and then I was badgering you to 96 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: do it with me for a while because obviously you've 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: got the skill set being a music producer that you 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: know how to edit and cut and make it all 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: sound pretty, which I have no idea how to do. 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: So I was badgering you for quite a while, I 101 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: want to say, like six months. 102 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably a couple of months. 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: Six Sorry reading into the mic, but this sounds like 104 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: a really weird thing to say. But for me, one 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: of my career dreams is to be a TV host. 106 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah and so, and I love it. I love holding 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: space and understanding what makes people tick and at the 108 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: end of the day, the essence of people or a person. 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: And so for me, this is a way of having 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: that without, Like to be completely honest, like I've auditioned 111 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: host TV shows before and I just don't get it, 112 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: Like I don't get the role, or it doesn't the 113 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: pilot doesn't get green lit, or I think I've done 114 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: like three different pilots that are all with me co hosting, 115 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and they never get off the ground. So a podcast 116 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: means you can kind of flex that muscle of interviewing 117 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: people and getting to know people and kind of like 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: holding space to discover their true essence or passion or 119 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: I use that word dharma in like yoga world, like 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: your purpose, and you still get to kind of like 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: explore that. I'm sure we're not filming a lot of it, 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: but any of it it's all recorded auditory, but you're 123 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: still energetically. 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Right now, You've got to set your phone up and 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: film this. 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: I know I could have couldn't known whacked it on YouTube, 127 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: which you didn't. 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Well, I do love that this pot is it's kind 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: of like its own little entity now, and it's it. 130 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: The podcast is the leader, not me, like I'm merely 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a vehicle that sits with somebody in a bid to 132 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: uncover and celebrate that person's true essence. It can be anything. 133 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: Did anybody inspire you to start a podcast where their 134 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: podcasts you are listening to that inspired you to have 135 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: your own podcast? 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Totally? So. I binged an Armchair Expert with Dak Shephard 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: early on, and I would definitely say his podcast totally 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: influenced the way that I definitely began my interview style 139 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: because it was my favorite podcast. I loved how unapologetically 140 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: raw he was, especially about his own battles with addiction, 141 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and so anytime he kind of like open up about himself, 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I whilst interviewing guests. 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: I found that really intriguing. 144 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: And so that's why you'll notice in the podcast, even 145 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: when I'm interviewing someone, if that triggers something within me, 146 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: I'll often be like, oh, I know how you feel. 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: I was there too. But we sometimes get feedback that 148 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: I do that too much, don't we know? 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes you're great feedback. 150 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Ah, there's always going to be. 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: Negative Nancy, one or two negos. 152 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Someone got to angry at me essay for the song 153 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: choice used on my Instagram, and I was like, aut 154 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: something not to be completely honest with you, Like, and 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: this sounds really negative, But there are so many fake 156 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: dingos out there, and it's just, oh, I'm talking too 157 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: loud and I'm getting passionate. 158 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: Matt's just changing the dial of the sound. 159 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: No, you're good, You're perfect. 160 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's so much fake out there, and there's 161 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: so much not real, and there's so many people that 162 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: aren't living true and real, and so I'm just like, ugh, 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: I just want real people on the podcast. That's kind 164 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: of the goal now, which has changed quite like at 165 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: the beginning, it's like, what's the biggest name, what's the 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: biggest celebrity that I can get? Now, it's like, no, 167 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: who's living their truth? I want that person on the podcast. 168 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: No, I like that. That's very very cool. And I 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: think you're always gonna you know, everyone has their own opinion, 170 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: so there's always people that are either happy or you know, 171 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: don't relate, or they might they might be triggered themselves 172 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: by what you are talking about. And generally, all the 173 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: biggest podcasts I see and read their reviews, they've got 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: just as many negative as really yeah of course, yeah, 175 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah. So brings me to my next question. 176 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: Oh nice segue. 177 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: What were the challenges when you started a podcast? 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, getting the guests a lot. 179 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: You get a lot of no's, And that's why I 180 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: try to say yes as a guest when anyone asked 181 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: me to go on a podcast, Like I know what 182 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: it feels like to try and book a guest and 183 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: to be kind of like a bit intimidated or scared 184 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: to get that guest and like a little old me, 185 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to get someone. So 186 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: I make sure as a guest, I kind of jump 187 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: at podcasts, but initially it would have been getting the guests, 188 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: and because podcasts are reasonably new, it wasn't a currency, 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: especially at the start, and so you'd be trying really 190 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: hard to get this guest, but you couldn't give them 191 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: any stats or be like, hey we've had over three 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand downloads. You can't. We're at that phase now. 193 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: We weren't that phase at the beginning. So you're kind 194 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: of like really going out there and trying to wrangle 195 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: guests early on. And I have to thank our first 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: podcast guest, Georgia love Love, who you know, is a 197 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: really big name and a household name in Australia and 198 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: jumped on it from the very beginning. And you also 199 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: shout out for her pod because you also edit her podcast. 200 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Everyone has a names. It's a very good podcast. Yeah, 201 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: it's a very high rating podcast. 202 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: I think everyone kind of thinks that they now think 203 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: that they can just start a podcast and they think 204 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: it's quite easy, But like, would you do anything different 205 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: or would you. 206 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Like Yeah, I think I do think that, especially with 207 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: I think Covid. A lot of podcasts were born out 208 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: of Covid and lockdown and it's not I wouldn't say 209 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: it's easy, especially like and this is the thing that 210 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: everyone listening is no, like it's fifty percent me, but 211 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: it's fifty percent Bolso, like Matt does all the back end, 212 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: does all like make sure everything sounds right, orders, all 213 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the equipment, like all these mics we've got right now, 214 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: the recorder. This is all Matt Like, Sure, I'll get 215 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the guests and I'll do all my research and I 216 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: do deep dive. I probably spend about I'm going to 217 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: say about twelve hours per guest. Would you say researching potentially? 218 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've read a book the other day 219 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: in like three days. 220 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Actually I had an author called Candice 221 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: Fox whose the episodes is not out yet, but I 222 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: really wanted to make sure that I had consumed her 223 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: new book coming out called The Chase, and I binge 224 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: read it in about three days and it is a 225 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: big book. 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah too. It's also hard to interview. You don't realize 227 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: the flow of a conversation for a whole hour and 228 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: where it goes in the direction. And then also halfway 229 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: through you have like brain farts and aren't saying um, 230 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: and like I do it so much without him realizing 231 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: I'll say um and like so many times just because 232 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm struggling to find a word in an interview. So 233 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: it is harder than people realize. 234 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: You've given me feedback that I've got too many connecting 235 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: words before look at him. Yeah, Like sometimes I just said, like, 236 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: what's mine's arm is um and liked. 237 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: So it is quite hard because you do struggle to 238 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: find words sometimes or struggle to find. 239 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: More lines. 240 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Every day. And I know I still do it. 241 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: You dropped the first F bomb there. 242 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I love a F bomb. 243 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: I like it. 244 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: I like it so sorry my daddy doesn't like it. 245 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: I know it is hard. I think it is harder 246 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: than people realize to interview. And I think it is 247 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: harder to form sentences and have verbal fluency than people realize. 248 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: I think that people just think having a conversation is easy, 249 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: but it's quite hard. 250 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Once once the in front of me, and I will say, like, 251 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: as a guest, you can totally tell if someone's done 252 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: their research or not. 253 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: Of course thousand percent I didn't interview. 254 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, like a week and a half ago and 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: someone's like literally said, so you've got two books out 256 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and I've just written my eleventh book, and so you've 257 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: just got you know, and that doesn't matter like far out. 258 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: It's just a number. But I mean it's not hard 259 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: to figure like just google. You just google the person 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: and you're going to be able to figure out how 261 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: many books what their titles are. That said, when I 262 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: interviewed Candice Fox, that crime fiction author, I couldn't figure 263 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: out how many books she'd written because she co authors 264 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot, and so it's really hard someone that's written 265 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: that many. It's so hard. It was something like sixteen. 266 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: Wow. 267 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: But yeah. The other thing, that's the art form with interviewing, 268 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and this is why I think I've fallen more in 269 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: love with it, and I probably i'd like to think 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: that it's improved a little bit along the way. But 271 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: like initially, you do share a lot about yourself as well, 272 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: and then the more you search in them, more confident 273 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: you get interviewing people. That's when I think you interview 274 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: better because it becomes less about you and becomes so 275 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: much more about the guests. 276 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Holding space for the guests. 277 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: I just realized, I keep looking, I'm sitting too next 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: to you. I need to be sitting opposite. I'm just 279 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: moving my. 280 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Mic Yeah, all right, Oh he's not going to like 281 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: that's the start. 282 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: He was like, are you comfortable there? 283 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: I suppose that. Actually I do have questions written out 284 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: bit of a guideline, but we don't have to stick 285 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: to on. But have you had any difficult guests or 286 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: do you feel like you've had difficult interviews where they 287 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: haven't opened up or they just don't relate to you, 288 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: or they am they just completely closed off and don't 289 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: want to give you information or don't want to talk 290 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: about themselves, or just maybe they're a little bit of 291 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: a bitchy person that can't be fine being there. 292 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: Not so much people that can't can't be being there. 293 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: That's never I've never felt that. But I've had a 294 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: couple of guests really not like the word failure, and 295 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: like a publicist or right to me be like, can 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: you not say it's about celebrating failure, And I'm like, 297 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: just tell them to listen to an episode. It's not 298 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: really about failure. It's about celebrating the highs and lows 299 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: of someone's journey. And so I've had a few people 300 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: where their publicist has asked me to change the word 301 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: failure for them and I've kind of said, well, you know, 302 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: how do they feel about the term failing forward? And 303 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: so I've had to when interview that interviewing them make 304 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: it more about failing forward as opposed to fucking up basically, 305 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: which is what the podcast is about. But it's really 306 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: just about being yourself. 307 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: What do you think that says about the guest. 308 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Just maybe likes to hold on quite tight and maybe 309 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: have a bit of control of their brand, which is 310 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: also understandable, like people work very hard to get to 311 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: where they're at, and I think as well, I need 312 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: to remember I'm not a polished person, and so I 313 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: love just real, raw, no filter. 314 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't think about just be honest. 315 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Like when I get sent my questions as a guest, 316 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: so someone a publicist or a booking agent, they send 317 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: me the questions that they're the host is going to 318 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: ask me, I never look at them because I don't 319 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: want to premeditate my answers at all. So often one 320 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: thing that heard all that I come across all the 321 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: time is some publicists will say can I please see 322 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: the questions before the guests agrees, and I'll say no, 323 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mid my research of them, and it 324 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: has to be organic, and I'll often, you know, if 325 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: I can feel there's resistance, which there was recently a 326 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: bit of resistance on this exact topic. What I did 327 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: was I just broke down the topics that I wanted 328 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: to cover with that person in relation to their life 329 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: so they could so the publicists could see that I'd 330 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: done a lot of research on them already and that 331 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to lead them up the garden path. 332 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: I recently interviewed Sandra Sully. That episode hasn't come out yet, 333 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: but she actually said it's as a journalist. She's like, 334 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: it's not about the gotcha moment, which journalists are often 335 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: looking at that for that kind of like grab yeah, 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: the clickbait or the hook. And I think that's what 337 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: a publicist job is, to protect the talent from a 338 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: gotcha moment. So I totally understand, but I don't like 339 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: to premeditate. And I will one hundred percent, like boss, 340 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: you've seen my notebook, I'll have so many notes, highlighted bits. 341 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: I interviewed three authors last week and I had each 342 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: of their books with like highlighted notes and clippings. And 343 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: we had Jules Sebastian and her episodes coming out next Monday, 344 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and she got a little bit teary seeing all the 345 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: notes because she's like, oh, my goodness, someone appreciated that. Yeah, 346 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: so I think everybody is completely different. But yeah, I've 347 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: definitely had difficult I've had people halfway through an interview 348 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: go you can't ask me that, and like stop the 349 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: interview and say, you know, you need to take that 350 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: out of the interview in the middle of the interview, 351 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: and that felt a bit jarring in the middle of 352 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: the interview. I've had heaps of guests ask for stuff 353 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: cut out after the interview. I've also done that as 354 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: a guest myself if I felt like I've overshared something 355 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: that's maybe like an unresolved legal matter. That's the only 356 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: time that I personally as a guest, have been like 357 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: I've just got to protect that for a couple more 358 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: months or whatever. But yeah, that's about it. That's been harder. 359 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: I find. No one's been mean or bitchy to mean, 360 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: that's never happened, because you're ultimately there to celebrate their them, 361 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: their profile, their brand, whatever they're pushing business wise at 362 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: that point in time. So you're there, you're on their team, 363 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, some people And the other thing I don't 364 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: love that I you can tell as an interview when 365 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: you're getting it rehearsed air. 366 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Which I was going to ask as well, like I've 367 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: felt and I mean, honestly, I think in the last 368 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: hundred episodes has only been maybe one one guest that 369 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: I've felt wasn't completely genuine and it was a bit 370 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: of a cookie cutter answer media like training. Yeah, you 371 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: know that I didn't love and I definitely didn't relate 372 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: to that person. Yeah, But other than that, Yeah, I thought, 373 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: do you think anyone else was? How many people do 374 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: you think fitting to that kind of category? 375 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: Three? 376 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: Probably I've my head last hundred two. 377 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Definitely, and maybe a third And I'm just accounting for 378 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: if I've missed someone that I thought had that response. 379 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: But remember, some of these people that you get on 380 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: are amazing talents, and you know, they're public speakers, they 381 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: could be authors, they could be and so sometimes you 382 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: just find someone that's just like so well versed and 383 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: so well rehearsed in it that for you to get 384 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: something really extra out of them or get them you've 385 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: got a one deep dive so heavily, but two You've 386 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: got to quickly make them comfortable in your presence so 387 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: that they're willing to go there and willing to open up. 388 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Like we had Zoe Tarracus on Monday episode this week, 389 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: which is technically today. We're recording this in advance, but. 390 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: Zoe I was so nervous to interview. 391 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: But Zoe said to me after, like, ah, I felt 392 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: very open, like they actually said what did What did 393 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: they say that actually said? I feel like I can 394 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: trust your eyes. 395 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: So with connecting to guests, we were obviously in lockdown 396 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: for a good ten months. Yeah, how did you go 397 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: doing Zoom interviews? How did you feel about doing Zoom interviews? 398 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: Zoom is hard? Online is hard, Like I know, it's 399 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: so great that we can all still create content while 400 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: staying at home, so I don't want to discredit and 401 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: we and as a result, it kept our podcast totally 402 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: alive and we were able to get guests that we 403 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: usually wouldn't get, like actors in La Quite. I feel 404 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: like Ash Brewer was unreal and like Ash Brewer, who's 405 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: a really successful Australian actor currently in la It didn't 406 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: work the first time, so we literally had a time 407 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: booked with her I think we were using a weird 408 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: online like riverside or something, or like we were using 409 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: a different streaming service to record. It wouldn't work on 410 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: Ash's computer, and then we had to like move that 411 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: whole podcast by away we reported it. I felt like 412 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: a total dickhead. I felt like I'd let her down 413 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: and she was unreal and so patient and so lovely 414 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: with us and with the kind of like moving beast 415 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: that is online. But then you have an interview, and 416 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: it was an incredible interview as well. But like we 417 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: got Joel Jackson during Lockdown, I don't know how I 418 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: would have got either of those actors if it wasn't 419 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: for Lockdown, because they're both very, very busy actors. The 420 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: other thing that's hard is like it glitches, you know, 421 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: Internet cuts out. You know, even if you've got great 422 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: internet or NBA or Wi Fi, the other guest on 423 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: the other side of the world might not be and 424 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: might not have it. Like recently we interviewed Joe Wicks, 425 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: the body coach, who was frigging legend by the way, 426 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: so honest, so real, so free, but there was a 427 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: lag every every question that I asked, it clipped like 428 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: the first half a second of his response every single time, 429 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: So Matt had to literally go in and edit that 430 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: would have taken you so long to edit it did Yeah. 431 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: I just said basically, I just had to take all 432 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: the silence out. Yeah, so it didn't sound like yeah, 433 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: there was second delays in between the question and answer. 434 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: But also that affects the tone of the interview because 435 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: you can see the whole way through that there's a delay, 436 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: and you know that every time you ask a question, 437 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: his response is delayed, and then every time that he 438 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: answers your responseile next question is delayed, and so that 439 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: it also affects the tone of it. And often what 440 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: OLD do when I'm doing a zoom interview with someone 441 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: in America or London or whatever, I'll sit there with 442 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: my diary and when I see a glitch, because we'll 443 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: keep the video aspect on just because it makes it 444 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: a bit more easy, a little bit easy to connect 445 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: when you can see the person's face and I'll just 446 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: timestamp wherever there's a little glitch. But we still use zoom. 447 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: We really like zoom, don't we. 448 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the easiest option and we. 449 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Still use it, like we still are doing online interviews, 450 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: but my preference is always in person, which is why 451 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: we were in Sydney. We had five podcasts back to 452 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: back pretty much, and a TV segment. 453 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: And a TV signment. Who remember that time you made 454 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: me go to Sydney with you and then we got 455 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: stuck in a flood ha ha ha. 456 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still stuck in that flood, aren't we. 457 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: The one time we don't fly, I. 458 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Know because I had blocked ears, so Matt was very amazing. 459 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want to perforate near Drum and it was like, 460 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: let's just drive and go together. But it has been 461 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: in a adventure, yes. And Newcastle's beautiful rain. 462 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: I've never been to Newcastle. I got to experience. 463 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: I just hope the rainstorms for a pinch so we 464 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: can do a little walk. That's so beautiful. 465 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like we're in a little bit of 466 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: like a lockdown again, totally. 467 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: It feels it's taking me back to lockdown life for sure, 468 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: because you can't really get out. 469 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: But we'll be fine. 470 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: We'll be so fine. 471 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Maybe Wednesday will go Yeah, Well, so they've been all 472 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: the difficulties would have been your favorite moments. 473 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: It's so hard because every time you ask this in 474 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: like a season wrap up, I remember the most recent 475 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: guests like this this time at Christmas, I was like 476 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: Dennis Walter, Dennis Wald, Dennis Water because I just had 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: him on. I was so nervous to interview him. He's 478 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: got that incredible dulcet toned voice, you know. And then 479 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: the laugh person that we interviewed was Zoey Zoey Tarracus. 480 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: I was just like and like I keep saying, like, 481 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: Zoey is so real and it just inspires me to 482 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: be unapologetically myself. And I say like, and I mean 483 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: in all elements of life. I know Zoe is an 484 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: activist for trans people, but also like anything that you 485 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: do in life, like I imagine everything that Zoe does 486 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: is like, well, what's real for me in this moment, 487 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But also like we interviewed 488 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: some incredible people in Sydney, like Samantha Wheels really opens 489 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: up about all of her incredible business life and like 490 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: literally opens up. So anyone that knows Samantha Willis's jewelry 491 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: does aren't well incredible during mogul, but talks about like 492 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: being eighty k in debt early on you know, and 493 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: having five credit cards and literally being at the checkout 494 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: and each one being denied. So that was really incredible 495 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: that she was just so very open. Like best of 496 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: the best of interviews is such a tricky one. I 497 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: mean I always go back to Joel Jackson because he 498 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: shared so much as I know, you think I have 499 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: a crush on him, and he is so handsome. I 500 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: will totally acknowledge that if he ever hears is doing 501 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: any of these roundups, I'm gonna be that embarrassment him. 502 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Do you reckon he listens to our pods? Yeah, he 503 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: does well if you do, Hello, Hello, Hello Joe. But 504 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: also just like very humble, but also has done so 505 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: much great stuff and not anothering with Zobie, like not 506 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: affected by all the success that they've had, like Zoe's 507 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: won awards and just turned twenty one today, crazy Joel's 508 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: won shitloads of awards as well, beating Lily everything you 509 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: can be in Australia, work with Daniel Radcliffe, and just 510 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: like so unaffected by the celebrity and the fame side 511 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: of what they do. I love like, I love that. 512 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: I also love creative, so you know, really kind of 513 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: like artsy people low below me away. 514 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: You know, one of the biggest episodes we've done is 515 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: still Tim Silverwood. Yeah, Take three for the Sea. 516 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: So do you know the interesting thing about that interview, 517 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: So he was the founder of Take three for the Sea, 518 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: an incredible environmental initiative. I thought I had fucked up 519 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: that interview so badly because he is so smart, his 520 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: intellect is so high, and when we were talking, I 521 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: was he was talking a lot about politics, and I 522 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh fuck, this is all going over my head. 523 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: And I was so scared that I was doing the 524 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: interview with disservice And to this day, like he's one 525 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: of the highest pods that we've had on yes what 526 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: I say, And he's so lovely. 527 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: His podcast as well, kind of got like a normal 528 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: amount of plays and then all of a sudden just 529 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: started going exponential and it's plays like a little bit 530 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: later on. 531 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: I forget that you see the back end of all 532 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: of it. What other ones are really high? I know, 533 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: Georgia loves a really high one. 534 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 2: Georgia loves always been like it still gets a lot 535 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: of plays. I think Emmy lou is really high. 536 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: She opened up heaps on the podcast about like losing 537 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: a friend in a skydiving accident, and while Emmy Lou 538 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: also jumped in that same skydive and that was really 539 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: confronting and she talks about it. So just like another 540 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: thing about interviewing people. I went to Emmy Lou's house 541 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: to interview her, and I went to juwles Sebastian's house into. 542 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: Talk about jewl Sebastian's house. 543 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful, isn't it. 544 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: They have a fridge for meat. 545 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say the grand piano 546 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: when you walking. 547 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: Oh, that was nice too, and. 548 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: There's like a steam room at the back. 549 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. 550 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure like Vogue Living is shortly that house. 551 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: But the meat fridge was like amazing. 552 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: But I do think interviewing people in their own environment 553 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: it just means that they're already quite relaxed. That said, 554 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: in Sydney, everyone came to our hotel, but we went 555 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: to Jules, but everybody else came to the hotel. 556 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: And I kind of like that too. 557 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: I think an interview in person versus online is like 558 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: you can't compare them. When you're in real life, you're 559 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: making eye contact, you can feel the person's energy, you know, 560 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: like every guest that we had on Insydney, Like, I 561 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: hugged before. I feel so lucky to be Also, I 562 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: hugged people after you touch stuff, Yeah, and like and 563 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: I think when you hug someone, there's something that really 564 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: connects you and bonds you with that person, and therefore 565 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: there's Are you writing a text message? 566 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: No, I just wrote a note in my phone ask 567 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: a question. 568 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: At the end, I thought he was literally writing a 569 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: text And I was about to do a Johnny drama. 570 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: Have you seen that Johnny drama Entourage episode where he's 571 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: doing an audition and one of the people in the 572 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: audition room scrolling their phone or doing an email and 573 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: he loses his buck and shit, Hey, did you know 574 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: that there's a podcast with Johnny Drama. 575 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Victory the Podcast. 576 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: I have to listen to it. 577 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's with Doug Alice, which is the creator, 578 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: creator or producer whatever it. 579 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: Is or showrunner. Maybe yeah, I don't know, let's listen. 580 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I need a new podcast. We've got a binge of 581 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: podcasts on the way back, and I get too scared of. 582 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: Listening hours driving. 583 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: It might be a little bit less by Wednesday, hopefully. 584 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: So other standouts or moments or. 585 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Can I get my phone up to look at the 586 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm just going to scroll through guest names because people 587 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: will be listening. But what about this person? But what 588 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: about this person? And I'll be like shared, I said 589 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: Joe Wicks. Joe Wicks is in credit because he really 590 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: opens up about his dad was a heroin Addict and 591 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Joe grew up like really really humble beginnings. 592 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: Him and his bro Nicki, who I've met as well. 593 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure his mum had Nicki at seventeen 594 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: and then Joe at nineteen. 595 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: So he's been a dream guest fee for a long time. 596 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I was too nervous to ask him how many months 597 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: was I like, I just want to write to Joe 598 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: and see if I'll get him on the pocket. 599 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: Also plug for Joe's app. 600 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: It's now available in Australia and New Zealand, so you 601 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: can get the Body Coach app. I'm just scrolling through. Oh, 602 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Lizzie from Bridgington, The Sex, Lizzie Talbot, Lizzie Talbot the 603 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah she was really cool, still writes to me on Insta. 604 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: We just had binge watched Bridgeton and I had listened 605 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: to a podcast with him. I was like, oh my god, Matt, 606 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: we've got to get her on. And that took a 607 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: bit of Like Lizzie was quick, but I had to 608 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: get through her publicist and that was a bit trickier, 609 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: so that took a bit of wangling to get her on. 610 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: That was really really cool, interesting and topical, so interesting, 611 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: so topical. Okay, Oh, Natural Harry did really really well 612 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: on the pod. 613 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: And you've done too with Natural Hairy too. 614 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: With Natural Harry, Max May, I could listen to his 615 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: voice all Day's got such a beautifulness, I know. And 616 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: I did TV in Sydney and because of COVID, you've 617 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: got to rock up with a full face of makeup, 618 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: and I don't own foundation. I just put a Flicka 619 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: Miscara on and away I go. And Max was like 620 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: babe coming to my house and he gave me a 621 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: full makeup tutorial, loaded me up with all the makeup 622 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: that I needed to do TV makeup. What a Legend 623 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: Brushes the works. Kira Rumble, her Trigger Warning with her apps, 624 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: talks a lot about smilarly rough and traumatic stuff she's 625 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: been through, but she's really quite vulnerable and open and 626 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: then of course we did the series with Jad Patrick 627 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: all about mindfulness, with a six part mindfulness series. 628 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: Also, there's some stuff on Crumbles episode that I don't 629 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: think she's ever talked about with anybody else. 630 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that stuff. Yeah, it's a really really really 631 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: really deep and quite heavy. 632 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: Oh Lisal Jones Chicken, she's cool. 633 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: I also talks about really heavy stuff really like opens 634 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people open up. Meging, Gail, me, Gail. 635 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: That was that we record that are on Christmas time, 636 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't we? 637 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: And we were actually going to get Sean Hampson. I'm 638 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: on the pod, but then COVID happened and then we know. 639 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: I'll try and get him when I go back down 640 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: to Malbs. So many cool people on here, Like I'm 641 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god. There Renee Barge When we 642 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: moved to. 643 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: She was literally on our second day when we moved to. 644 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: Byron Greg Cave Greg Greg Greg Yeah, director general manager, 645 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: co creator of. 646 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: Guya Retreat and SPA. 647 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Oh. I have to say my favor ever acting coach 648 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: I in Sinclair. If you're into human behavior, you should 649 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: listen to that one because he talks about human behavior 650 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: more even than he talks about acting all right, next question. 651 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Are so many fave orrettes. What's next for the podcast? 652 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: So I want to see. I've got, as you know, 653 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of travel coming up this year, 654 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: and so the Byron Diary, Friday Checking more morph is 655 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: the travel morphs. But the Friday check in is here 656 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: to stay. We have got some really exciting guests coming up. 657 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: So we record at the moment. We're recording about eight 658 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: guests ahead of time because often if you're working with 659 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: publicists of the guests, they'll have embargoes around book releases 660 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: or times that things can come out. So we're kind 661 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: of time in with people and what they need. There's 662 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: a few more guests I really want to get, especially 663 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: if you more Byron kind of local talent that I 664 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: really want to get. It'll just depend on and like 665 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: there's one that I've been wanting to get for ages, 666 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: but because he's got a book coming out in June, 667 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: we're trying to time it. It's just a bit tricky. 668 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the Friday Checking is here to stay. 669 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: The Monday episodes are going to be just the most 670 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: interesting people that I can find. If you the listener, 671 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: has anyone that you really want me to get on 672 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: the pod, Please DM me and tell us who you 673 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: want to hear. It could be anywhere in the world. Yeah. 674 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: Cool. 675 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: Oh, and I've got a book coming out? Do you 676 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: mean like what I've got coming on audio? 677 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: It's more the podcast, Like, what's where do you see 678 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: the podcast going? 679 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: You're not going to let me do a shameless plug 680 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: or book coming September? No, no, no, no, I just mean 681 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: there's a book coming out later in the year, so 682 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: that that might mean you know, I'm sure I'll talk 683 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: about it on the pod. Do you know what I mean? 684 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: Oh, maybe you could do a special books series. 685 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: Well, that was your idea. 686 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: I told my idea. I have all the good ideas. Indeed, 687 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: would you change anything looking back about the pot Yeah, 688 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: obviously there's a lot of trial and error at the start, 689 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,959 Speaker 2: But would you try would you change anything or would 690 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 2: you do anything different? Was there anyone that you wouldn't 691 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: have on? Would you say there's a couple. 692 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: I was just trying to think that. 693 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: I was just trying to be like, if I did 694 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I do any favors for anyone, I would never do that. Ever, 695 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't jeopardize the podcast. Now to keep someone happy. 696 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: I say no a lot to guests. Don't know the 697 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: amount of publicists that write to me about someone that's 698 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: got an eating disorder story, and I'm like, have you 699 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: done your research? Like I've talking so openly about my 700 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: own eating disorders as have, Like how many of my 701 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: guests ten Like Olivia Molly Rodgers really opens up a 702 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: lot about that, and I think she nails the way 703 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: she talks about it. So yeah, I say no, probably 704 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: to half more than half the people that approach us, 705 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: I would say, and I'm very comfortable saying no. I 706 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: don't feel like and that might sound really fucking wanky, 707 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: but I just I want to protect the pod. It's 708 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: got to be true to the essence of the pod. 709 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that person is wrong or not 710 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: good enough for the pod. It just means we've already 711 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: covered that with somebody, or I don't want it to 712 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: be known. 713 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: That's another thing at the part. 714 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't want it to be known as a recovering 715 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: eating disorders podcasts. I don't want it to be known 716 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: as a wellness podcast at all. We get a lot 717 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: of natch Pass nutritionis Pitch to come on the podcast 718 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I kind of tick that box, 719 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: like we don't know. I'm not interested in it being 720 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: a wellness podcast. It never has been. A wellness podcast. 721 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: Is more about people with an interesting essence and that 722 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: are going after their dreams fearlessly. 723 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: And be inspiring totally. 724 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Totally. It is the concept like, like I come back 725 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: to at the start, my dream is to be a 726 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: TV host, but interview people that have really interesting stories. 727 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: That's been my dream since as long as I can 728 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: ever remember. I remember I hung my shoes up when 729 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: I worked in TV. I remember I thought, well, I 730 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: still work in TV. But I did a segment I 731 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: thought I was being so fake. I talked about I 732 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: got asked to a morning TV segment years ago and 733 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: they're like, can you talk about Beyonce's lost all this week? 734 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: Can you talk about how she achieved that through her 735 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: vegan diet? And then I did it. I went on, 736 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: done this story on it, talked about what she'd been 737 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: and kind of like basically broke the diet down for 738 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: the show. And then they got me on a couple 739 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: of weeks later and they're like, oh, actually, now it's 740 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret season. Can you talk about how the Victoria's 741 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: Secret Models get their bodies so great, and I talked 742 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: about eating steamed chicken and broccoli, and I remember I 743 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: got off and I started crying, and I was like, 744 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: my whole ease ofus is to inspire people, and I'm 745 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: inspiring no one, least of all myself. So I hung 746 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: up my TV shoes. I was like, you're not doing 747 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: any more segments until you sought your shit out, basically 748 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: enrolled into become a yoga teacher. And I actually had 749 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: a friend that is no longer a friend but say 750 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: to me, hey, you're being really fake. You're really fake. 751 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: I've done all this yoga teaching, done all this like 752 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: work on myself, taken like five maybe even like seven 753 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: months off book, writing, TV, you name it. Really kind 754 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: of just went to this like healing whirlwind. And I 755 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: remember looking back at that person saying I'm not fake. 756 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: And I went home mortified, so upset, and I wrote 757 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: down what would you do if nothing else mattered? And 758 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: I wrote, I would live in are live in a 759 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: tree house and interview people that inspired me about themselves. 760 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm technically doing here. And sure, I 761 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: thought it'd be a film TV series and I still 762 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: might get that that's the goal right but right now 763 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: it is in the form of this podcast, and I 764 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: freaking love that. 765 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 766 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: Okay, very very nice, No banter on that that nice? 767 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: Answered everything perfectly. What would you say to people wanting 768 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: to start a podcast because it is the age of 769 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: the podcast at the moment, everyone feels like they have 770 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: a voice and they have something to say. What's your 771 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 2: advice there? 772 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: Do it? But like work with someone like you, like 773 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: have have someone in your corner that has the skill 774 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: set to make sure that sounds great, that can help 775 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: me make an audiogram, that knows how to upload it 776 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: onto the right kind of platforms or it can be heard. 777 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think you can't do it without someone 778 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: like a mat in your corner. Like sure, you can 779 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: have the passion and want to interview people and want 780 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: to hear about people's stories, but you need someone who 781 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: has the skill set that can edit, that can cut, 782 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: that can make sound bites, that can give you feedback, 783 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: that can tell you what kind of mix you need. 784 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: You need a you, Yeah, but not me because I'm 785 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: pretty busy right now. You could try to us and 786 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: get it get a map as well. 787 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: And I think one other point there that I'll probably 788 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: chime in with is it takes longer than people realize. 789 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 3: For anything, for any career. 790 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: I always say, whatever you think, think if you've got 791 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: a career plan or a business dream like even I 792 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: used to own a smoothie bar, and I go, it's 793 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: always going to take you three times longer than you 794 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: pricked with anything, writing a book, anything. 795 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, all right, last question, sum it up one 796 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: dream guest. 797 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: No, really, I don't want to say it because I 798 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: really want to get him. I really want to get 799 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: him on the pod so badly. But so you know, 800 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: when you get skating going to jinx it? What if 801 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: I cross my finger? 802 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: But I mean. 803 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Someone that's you think right now is completely out of 804 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: your reach. Okay, so that's Shepherd. Okay, Oh yeah, he'd 805 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: be amazing. Okay, so I'll put the one that I'm 806 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: trying to get in Hollywood on. I'll keep that secret. 807 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: Oh he just looked at me like he thought I 808 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: was a total douche bag then, And a Dax Shepherd 809 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: would be freaking amazing. If you ever listen to this, Dax, 810 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: you are the reason I have a podcast, because you 811 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: inspire me so much. But I'm gonna say my ultimate Oh, 812 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm smart enough or funny enough to 813 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: get this person. I'm gonna lay it out on the line. 814 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: But I think I know. 815 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: But go, oh, who do you think it is? 816 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: Ricky Gervase. 817 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, here's the ultimate everything. I love Ricky 818 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 1: Gervas so much. He is the reason I don't question 819 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: my personal life like he like. I sometimes get a 820 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: lot of pressure about having kids and stuff freezing eggs, 821 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: and then I just there's this one interview I watch 822 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: on repeat of Ricky Gervas, and it's him winning a 823 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: bafter sitting extit. I think his partner's name is Jane. 824 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, and he's one of his first 825 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: bafter I think, for either extras or the offers. And 826 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: he looks to her and says he's forty one years old, 827 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: and he says, why did I wait this long? And 828 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: she said, you needed to live before this could happen. 829 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: You needed to have these life experiences, bere before you 830 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: go to this stage. So I watch that whenever I'm 831 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: feeling demovated. I was going to say, Jason Bateman, Oh 832 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: that's cool. Yeah, but I think he's too smart for me. 833 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: He's so smart, so dry, so witty, like creator of Ozark, actor, director, producer, 834 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: but so funny. And he actually interviews Ricky Javas on 835 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: his podcast that I love called SmartLess, and there's this 836 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: bit where he just he just has one line. Any 837 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: of his comedy. I mean, you love him from a 838 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: rest of development. Any of his comedy just lands like 839 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 1: it's like it's like you can hear a pin drop 840 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: in the room. And there's this bit where Ricky Gervas 841 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: is making a joke about how muscly he is, and 842 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 1: Jason Bateman just goes, so do you like to blast 843 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: bis or tries or something like he's just so one 844 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: step ahead and so smart. Like I've interviewed Nazim the 845 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: comedian on he before, and it's scary intoing comedians because 846 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: they're so fast. Their brains are faster. There's something different 847 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: about a comedian's brain. But yeah, Jason Bateman will be epic. 848 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Ricky Gervais takes the k well, you only 849 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: get one, so you have to choose one. 850 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 3: Then I need to pick a third. I need to 851 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 3: pick someone different again. 852 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay. 853 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I actually thought of another one, which might be 854 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 2: your kind of cool dream guest. La del Ray. 855 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I mean Lana del rayb airpic pa. 856 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay, dream, here go one more dream guest but not alive? Okay? 857 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 3: Oh George Harrison, Okay, hands down? 858 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: Who would yours be? 859 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: I was going to think, like a yeah, maybe a beatle. 860 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: Because we recently heard Paul McCarthy on Smiless and it 861 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: was incredible. Give me another, sorry McCarthy, Okay, give you 862 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: pick another one. Then that's not a musician, because you're 863 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: always me. Yeah as a guest. 864 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, non music. 865 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: I don't know anything you would say, Prince, then if 866 00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: you couldn't say yeah, Prince, come on, come on, I reckon, Prince. 867 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: Or I get Michael Jackson. Yeah you love Michael Jackson too. 868 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: I know I get Steve Irwin. Yeah you know how 869 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: much Steve Irwin is a huge inspiration to me in 870 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: all seriousness, most people laugh, I'm like, are you're gonna 871 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: wrestle broccoli? And again it's that authentic, like doesn't give 872 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: a shit about what people think. They are just themselves. 873 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: That's what blows my mind about Steve Irwen. More guests 874 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: more dream. 875 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: Let's put out in the universe, maybe like a Bindi 876 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: or what's the Robert what's his name? Is it Robert Robert? 877 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: Or what's the mum's name? 878 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: Terry Terry. I dedicated one of my books to Steve Brwen, 879 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: and Terry gave me a tour of Australia Zoo and 880 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: like organized it for me. I didn't get to meet 881 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: Terry and what else happened? I got to go into 882 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: like the enclosures with the binta wrongs and feed them 883 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: and they're like these half bear half possible. Let's put 884 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: that out in the universe that we that would be amazing, 885 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: very good. Hang on, let's do one more dream guest 886 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: just for fun. Margo Robbie would be epic yep, be 887 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: a good one. 888 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 2: Or she's not that far away from. 889 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: No, she's too close to even that's possible. Yeah, okay, 890 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: so hang on, what about like. 891 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: What do they say, you're only seven degrees is separation 892 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: from anybody? 893 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: I didn't think we get Zoe Tarracus. I thought that 894 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: was too hard, Like I was like, they're way too 895 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: successful to say. Yeah, not that other people are not, 896 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: but actors are hard because when they're busy, you can't 897 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: access them and if they get a little break in filming, 898 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: and Zoe was like, touch and go with timings. 899 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 900 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: Their agent was like, it's going to be this day 901 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: or this day. It will depend on filming commitments. So, 902 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: like you know, they're quite hard to get actress. Hang on, 903 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: one more, one more, one more. This is such a 904 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: fun game, Boss. We put down the whole podcast on 905 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: dream guests. Oh okay, Jimmy Fallon. Yeah. 906 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 3: Also he's like, I look up for Jimmy Fallon so 907 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 3: so much. 908 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: Will Farrell. 909 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 2: Now we're just listening our favorite actors and funny, we can't. 910 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 1: Do that, Okay, Okay. Then I think Ryan Murphy would 911 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: be phenomenal the creator of like Glee, American Horror Story, Hollywood. 912 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Murphy has done so much for the 913 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: arts and and what's represented in the arts. I love 914 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: that he's all about diversity. I'm a big Ryan Murphy fan. Cool, 915 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: you would love Gwyneth Paltrow. That's your hall pass, isn't it. Yes, Matt, 916 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: Matt's got a big fat crush on Queen. 917 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: Available anytime? 918 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: Right? 919 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: Okay, great, thank you, boss for interviewing me. 920 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: I need a week so bad before we started here, 921 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: but I had a coffee and coffees go through you know. Okay, sorry, 922 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have shit. That's an Overshares. Congratulations on 923 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: one hundred episodes. Thanks thanks for interviewing me for the 924 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: hundred there in Newcastle in what feels a little bit 925 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: like lockdown because it's floods. 926 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: Means I've had to edit one hundred of your episodes. 927 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: And he said, to your voice one hundred times? 928 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: Come who said my voice? Jules Sebastian said, I had a 929 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: lovely voice. Didn't you know? 930 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 2: You've got so many compliments that day. 931 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: Matt's like, what a bogan voice? 932 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 2: Ah, true blue, true blue bogan I've ever dated. 933 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 3: Excuse me, that's not Alice, but it's true. 934 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: Wow. We we're gonna have a little chatsky after this. 935 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: Are we not talk about this? 936 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 2: Lad? 937 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: I am very bogd. I'm I like that. I'm really auzy. 938 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: Do you know my voice? Coach Matt Fulani, he's also 939 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: been on the podcast. I went to him for a 940 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: general American accent work. Would I haven't practiced for two 941 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: weeks my accent stuff anyway? And I said to him, oh, 942 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose my oka and he was like, oh, Lola, 943 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: it's sweet that you think that. Like it's like number one, 944 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: you won't lose it. But number two, what makes an 945 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: Australian accent to Australian is actually a lazy jaw, lazy tongue, 946 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: Like we actually need to make your like mouth jaw 947 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: tongue much more economical. And they say in American actually 948 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: uses so many more muscles in their mouth than what 949 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: we do. Aussies really so they like, you know, they 950 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: have this like silkiness to their voice. You know, they're 951 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: they're very I feel like they they land their syllables 952 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: more than Australians. What do you reckon Australians. 953 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 2: This isn't the time for your rehearsal, boss, This is 954 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 2: the end of the podcast. People are going to be like, okay, 955 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: tapping out right, ah, tap. 956 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: You out more. Thank you from the bottom of our 957 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: hearts for listening to one hundredth episode, but listen for 958 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: listening to all of the episodes. Matt's winding me up. 959 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying pressed up when you're ready after 960 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: your wrap up. 961 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 3: Well you should wrap it up. You are the interviewer 962 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 3: go for it. 963 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me interview and congratulations. 964 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: Thanks bossco love you, love, thanks making it happen. This 965 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: pot it's all you. 966 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 2: That's all right. 967 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 968 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 969 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo, Lollaberry. This Potty my word 970 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 971 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment and of 972 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: course spread the love.