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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had Jessica Rolle on the show yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and you know she calls herself the crab housewife. But

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Speaker 2: we were talking about Mother's Day and she said, we

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Speaker 2: often have to allow ourselves to do nothing we like.

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Speaker 2: Even now I know that I'm working from home, the

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Speaker 2: dishwasher hasn't been unstacked, because you know Harley's I woke

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Speaker 2: him up at four o'clock to help me do the

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Speaker 2: set up here today. So he's gone back to bed.

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Speaker 2: Jack's gone off. The dishwasher is there. It doesn't need

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Speaker 2: to be emptied, but it's driving me crazy that it isn't.

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Speaker 2: So I've only got one arm. But if I maybe

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Speaker 2: during the news, I might attempt to go up and

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Speaker 2: empty it. And I shouldn't. I shouldn't. I need to.

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Speaker 2: It'll get emptied whether I do it or not. It's

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Speaker 2: up to us sometimes to stop ourselves, to give ourselves

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Speaker 2: permission to in my case, heal my arm, or to

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Speaker 2: just sit quietly. And I saw a thing on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: It's everything that you don't like, Brendan, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to play it. A whole lot of women have sort

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Speaker 2: of uploaded videos of themselves doing something just for them

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Speaker 2: with these words.

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Speaker 1: I lied and said I was busy. I was busy,

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Speaker 1: but not in a way most people understand. I was

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Speaker 1: busy taking deeper breaths. I was busy silencing irrational thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I was busy calming a racing heart. I was busy

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Speaker 1: telling myself I am okay. Sometimes this is my busy,

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Speaker 1: and I will not apologize for it.

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Speaker 2: You've got your head in your hand for God's No,

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Speaker 2: I don't say for God's sake, because I'm not normally

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Speaker 2: into that flowery stuff either. Breathe live, But the message

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Speaker 2: of that I thought was really interesting. I do like

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Speaker 2: breathing and living. Slip that bene.

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Speaker 1: Breathe and live.

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Speaker 2: I've left that behind many years ago. I'm not breathing anymore.

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Speaker 1: Goodn't have bothered.

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Speaker 2: But often we do tasks, we do things, We do

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Speaker 2: things for other people, for work, whatever. And if there's

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Speaker 2: a tiny break in your diary and someone says are

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Speaker 2: you free, it's okay to say, actually, now I'm not,

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Speaker 2: and to just do something for yourself. That's a big

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Speaker 2: life lesson for women, I think, and I'm only just

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Speaker 2: trying to learn it now. So breathe in Brendan, Sure,

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Speaker 2: can you do the rest of the show because I'm

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Speaker 2: a little busy.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm a man.

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Speaker 2: We just do stuff for ourselves all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, actually means themselves. That's exactly right. The watcher

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Speaker 2: needs unpacking, It gets unpacked. If it doesn't, it doesn't,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't. And you don't have to give yourself permission

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Speaker 2: to go and play golf or whatever it is that

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Speaker 2: guys do, whereas women feel they need to give themselves

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Speaker 2: permission to do something for themselves. So this Mother's Day,

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Speaker 2: let's make that a thing that we we start to

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Speaker 2: look towards. What do I need to recover to get

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Speaker 2: through to be the best I can be for everyone

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Speaker 2: else in my family as well, and for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Just breathe and live. If that's not too much, that's

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Speaker 1: not too much trouble.

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Speaker 2: I can't be bother I couldn't be bothered breathing and living.

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Speaker 1: It's too much effort. Jonesy and Amanda's jammation