WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Not your Darl! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.400 Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.160 lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:07.600 elders past and present. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.399 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:24.320 recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome back 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:25.880 to another episode of Life on Cut. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.120 I'm Laura, I'm Brittany. Do you just have a testy pop? 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.560 Maybe I think you did? You like Laura? Well, that's 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.560 how I feel. Do you know I've been up since that. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.400 You feel like a previous and voyage of testy pots. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.559 We got to really dig deep into that one. I 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.320 feel like a fourteen year old male male man. Fuck, like, 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:49.080 shut up, it's gonna be a long while. But I 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:50.879 mean I was since five thirty this morning. Guess what 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.360 I was doing? Everyone? Did you worry out? Dancing? Dancing, 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.880 doing the drive? Who wants to dance at five thirty 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:57.480 in the morning. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.920 No one, not even my dance teacher who didn't arrive 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.520 on time because he slept in. I got to the 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.080 studio and I was like, hey, don't know where you're 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.320 at And he was like, uh, asleep. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.400 And then and I waited forty five minutes until he 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:07.759 got there. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.120 So isn't that the worst thing? When I did it 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:11.840 not long ago? Actually, I did it to you. The 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.520 worst thing when you wake up to a message that's 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.600 like a where are you message and you're in bed 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.080 and you're like, holy mold. I love that you say 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.560 I did it to you recently, because there's not been 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.320 a time recently where you replied with I'm still in bed. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.480 So I'd love to know when you were just running 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:28.119 late to. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.880 No there was member was supposed to be on a 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.800 meeting and I was in bed and I woke up 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.280 and the meeting was done, and I was like, so, 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:34.080 I was like, so. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:35.880 Fam I missed the boat on that one. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.199 I slept through my alarm and you guys have finished 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.680 the meeting and I am in bed. No. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.280 Do you know what my absolute pet hate is? Like 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.039 that I can handle because that's at least like a 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:48.240 reflection of a mistake. My pet hate is when someone says, oh, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.080 the traffic was really bad, but they know and you 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.280 know that there was no bad traffic because you both 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.279 drove the same route. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.960 Now, that is my The other day, flute fury. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.160 The other day, I was like, they're not going to 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.080 believe this. I was like, guy, sorry, the traffic's really bad. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:02.560 There was a hectic accident, and I was like, they're 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.520 not gonna believe it. A whole tree fell across A 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.600 whole tree fell across the road on to crush the car. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.200 It's not funny. You crush the car and you couldn't 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.880 get up the road. And I was like, I took 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.400 a picture. I still I'm showing you. But I was like, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.040 I have to take a picture because they're not gonna 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:17.800 believe me when. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.360 I say the traffic was bad. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.920 When you text us that, I looked at Laura and 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.360 I was like, oh, she's doubling down. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.519 She's really She's like, oh, there's a tree on the road. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.560 That's why I had to take the picture. You scooed 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:27.880 it over that. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.799 How's the dancing, Ah, not good. I don't believe it's 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.840 going it's dancing. It's unmoving my body in the direction 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:36.360 of a dance. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.440 How many dances do you know? Three? 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:38.959 Four? 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:39.600 That's pretty good. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.359 I a four four and I'm in the midst of 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.560 learning my last one. Okay, yes, I know four, but 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.760 none of them very well. But we're getting there anyway. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.200 When I can update you guys properly. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.280 I absolutely will, and I'm sure you're all dying and 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.480 on the edge of your seats. But anyway, asking cart 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.320 this is where we answer you your dark and you're 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.239 burning questions. But before we do, we had a couple 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.520 of things we wanted to talk about first. Now, the 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.680 first thing I wanted to say is that there has 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.800 been the cutest thing going down in the Life Uncut 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.960 discussion group. We feel so grateful for the incredible little 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.760 community that we have and for how amazing as community 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.240 members you guys are to each other. And there was 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.560 just the sweetest thing that happened recently that I wanted 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:19.320 to kind of touch on. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:19.640 Now. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.200 Melissa Swansbra she is one of our community members. She 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.920 posted in the group that her daughter, like her baby, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.040 had lost her beloved NONI. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:30.639 Now, I don't know if you're a mum, you might 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.400 get what this is. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.840 But like most children get, like really attached to a 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.000 singular teddy becomes their comforter and it's the thing that 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:38.560 they'll you know, take with them to when they go 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.160 to bear, they take with them to daycare or whatever. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.760 So a comfort blanket blank a lot of kids called 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:43.600 a blankie. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.800 A blanky, a comforter, a teddy, whatever it is. So 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.400 Melissa's little girl lost her comforter, which she calls her NONI. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.120 There was photos she basically posted in the group and 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.080 she posted a photo of her little girl with her 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.120 blankie and was like, does anybody in the group have 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.600 one of these something similar? So that she doesn't have 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.880 to be without her very precious little items. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.840 And to reiterate, she's put photos in of her daughter 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.800 and since she's a newborn for three years, with pictures 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.920 of her with this blanket, like it has been stuck 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:12.640 to this little. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:13.839 Girl for three now. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.000 Deborah Carroll, who's another Life on Car community member, she 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.000 wrote back and wrote, oh my god, you wouldn't believe it, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.000 but yes I do. I got three of them from 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.920 my baby shower a few years ago and I still 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:23.960 have two of them brand new. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:24.400 Now. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.520 The reason why this is so bloody cute is because 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:31.040 Deborah went and she sent her these little comforters completely off. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:31.479 Her own back. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.160 Didn't want anything for it, didn't want even want money 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.600 for the postage, just wanted to do something that was 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.000 so nice for someone else. And the thing that we 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.640 love more than anything is how incredible, no matter how big, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.160 how small, how incredible it is that you guys all 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.039 band together to help each other out. This was just 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.200 such a little and sweet, active kindness that we wanted 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.600 to say, you know, we see it when it goes 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.200 down in the Facebook group, and we are so so grateful. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.760 Well, especially when Debra sent it and Melissa had said, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.680 you know, let me pay for the postage at least, like, 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.720 let me help you out, and she just literally said, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.919 don't worry about the money, take it as a gift 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.560 from a stranger. Buy yourself a coffee instead, enjoy your day. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.080 It's just the low key message, just not for attention, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.520 it's not for anything else. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.120 It's just because you're good humans. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.000 Over the years, it's been so many small acts of 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.440 kindness that have gone down in the discussion group, big 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.480 and small, and so much of it happens without us 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.000 having to do anything. It's just between you guys, and 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.040 so we want to say that, even though we know 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.279 that it takes on a life of its own, we 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.720 see everything that happens and we love how much you 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.160 all support each other. Now, going from the absolute sweetest 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.520 of sweets too something a lot less sweet, you know, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.760 or you might know if you've been following along on 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.120 the Gram. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.279 It is fashion week at the moment. It is fashion week, 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:43.599 and I don't know if a lot of people care 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:44.280 or not. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.440 I don't know what the vibe is in Australia anymore, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.919 but regardless, it's fashion weeks. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.000 Are you going? Are you partaking? How do you feel 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:51.800 about Fashion Week? 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:52.080 Now? 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.760 I usually just do one show every Fashion Week. Actually 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.560 I don't even think I went to last year, but 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.560 the year before I only did one. Actually just pick 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.880 one of my favorite designers and I go. And this 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.080 year I'm actually going tonight just to one show with 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.720 Kim who is one of my stylist's best friends. And 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.520 I'm going to marrying Siddiq because I love her, I 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.960 wear her, and I want to support her as somebody 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.680 that I know. She's an amazing Australian designer. So I'm 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:16.960 just going to my one show. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.880 Well, I think overall the interest in Fashion Week has 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.680 truly declined across Australia. I remember, like five or six 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.760 years ago the media coverage that it would receive the 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.040 amount of money that was poured into it as an event, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.320 the calibra of like as in every single designer would 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.279 have a show at fashion Week, and now I think 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.680 over time it has become less and less and that's 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.800 because like brands have multiple ways now to show and 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.560 to get their collections out, and also because more brands 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.960 now are not just doing a summer and winter range, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.600 like a lot of collections are seasonal. They're based on 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.560 like six week or eight weekly drops. So I feel 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.159 like the fashion industry has evolved quite a bit now. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.360 There's something that happened recently and I had a few 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.159 feelings about it. Brittain I were talking about it last 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.400 night and it was all around some leaked DMS between 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.440 an influencer and a fashion designer. I feel like if 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.880 you have been following fashion week over the last couple 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.760 of years, you probably have noticed that more and more 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:15.400 the people who are attending Australian Fashion Week are predominantly influencers. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.160 And also there is been this huge shift over the 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.440 last couple of years where it is predominantly reality TV 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.800 stars as well. And I think that in the industry 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.240 there's a little bit of push and pull between die 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.320 hard fashion experts and that's what they live and breathe, 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.160 and then the reality TV people who come in attendance 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:32.600 each year. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:33.800 So the article that. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.720 Came out last night was Carolina. You might remember her 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.000 from Maths. She's quite a controversial reality TV star and 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.320 I would say overall she hasn't been the most liked 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:44.360 reality TV star. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.400 And I didn't watch it, but I've read a lot 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.360 about her, and everything I've heard is that it was 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.160 very controversial, she had the affair. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.400 People don't seem to love her. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.240 I can't make a personal comment because I don't know 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.160 her and I didn't watch it, but the general feedback 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.920 hasn't been great around Paul Carolina. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.240 And look, I mean, on one hand, we can say 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.320 was it the edit. On the other hand, we can 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.679 say is it her as a person who knows because 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.280 none of us actually know. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.680 Who she is as a person. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.600 But basically what happened was she had sent a DM 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.320 to Australian fashion label called Michael Losordo, now a very respected, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.960 well to do, very successful fashion label who was putting 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.720 on a show at Australian Fashion Week. Anyway, the message 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.400 was this, Hi, team, I would love to watch your 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.400 show at the AAFW in Sydney on the fifteenth. Is 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.360 there any possibility I could get an invitation. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:32.800 Thank you. Now. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.760 This is the response to the lead DMS. Hi Carolina, 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.760 thank you for your message. It would be, in my 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.280 view respectful to be supporting and following the brand's page 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.200 before asking for a free ticket or an inclusion to 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.480 the anniversary show. Now Carolina went on to write a 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.480 very big response to this. She wrote back saying, I'm 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.960 so sorry. I'm more than happy to follow. I truly 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.880 do love the brand. I actually come to check out 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.920 your new posts regularly. Please don't be offended. I only 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.199 follow three hundred or so people and they're my family 0:08:59.240 --> 0:08:59.720 and friends. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:00.679 And then she is. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.960 It's a very long explanation, but basically, she said, the 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.960 reason why she only follows such a small amount of 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.480 people is because otherwise she misses those that are close 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.440 to her, and also because social media for her became 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.200 a place that wasn't good for her mental health, and 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.760 so therefore she wanted to keep her following small. The 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.040 reason why I know in depth the exchange between a 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.720 fashion brand and an influencer is because these dms, which 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.760 I would assume would be private dms, were released to 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.000 Daily Mail and this was the headline. The headline was 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.959 leaked emails reveal popular designers takedown of a reality TV 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.160 star begging for an invite to Australian Fashion Week show 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.720 before she's brutally turned down. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.240 I think this is so shitty actually, of who of 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.760 the designer? I think that Okay, let's wind back a 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.240 little bit. What is happened here? 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.240 To summarize, Carolina wanted to go to Michael's show because 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.800 he's an amazing fashion designer. She obviously didn't have an invite, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.440 so she slid into the DMS and said I'd love 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.640 to attend. He's called her out because he's like, yeah, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.240 don't even follow me, so it's a no. But that 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.040 wasn't enough. He then screenshot it and leaked it. The 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.360 way fashion week works is, I mean a lot of 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.000 influences are a lot of people in the public eye 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.640 or a lot of the fashionists. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.280 They get direct invites from the brand. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.199 The brand will put a direct invite out saying I 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.000 know I want you there, so like please come. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.960 But for everybody else that wants to. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.360 Attend, because people forget, there are a lot of just 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.760 people that everyday people that love to attend fashion week 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.000 because they love fashion. What happens is you register to go. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.000 So you register, you fell out a form, you put 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.120 your occupation, you put what shows you want to go to, 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.240 and then the brand will then say, yes, you can come. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.360 You can get an invite. So that's generally how it works. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.839 So I think a Michael the designer is obviously a 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.040 little bit pissed that. He's like, you haven't even gone 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.439 through the normal route, like you've DMed me directly. He's 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.360 probably pissed about that, which isn't something in my eyes 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.000 to be pissed at at all. It's like, take it 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:48.680 as flattering. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.200 Why do you think because there's que a rising trend 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.160 of like influencers being entitled, like brand singing influences are entitled, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.120 and therefore they shouldn't be asking for things like it's 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.160 entitled for them to ask. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:00.120 So why do you think it's an. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.640 A big deal that she has kind of gone out 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:02.880 of her way to say, hey, give me a ticket. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.280 I don't think it's a big deal because I also 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.480 don't think it's a big deal that he said no. So, 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.320 like you know, I live by a bit of a 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.000 motto of like in life, don't ask, don't get right. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.440 You can ask, and it can be a no, but 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.560 you could ask and it could be a yes. But 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.720 what I don't like here is she asked and it 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:19.080 was a no. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:19.760 That's fine. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.520 He has every right to say no. And at the 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:22.920 end of the day, I think he should have said 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.959 no because she should have been following the brand. There's 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.640 a simple rule. If you're gonna ask for something, you 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.440 show you support. If you loved them so much, you 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.120 show your support. And I say that because I know 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.079 that's happened to you and I Laura like, we get 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.959 that a lot. Even with Life on Cut, we get 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.200 a lot of people right to us saying absolutely love you, 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.600 you know, love you both love the podcast, would love 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.480 to be a guest on there, would love to send 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.000 you a product, maybe you can talk about it. And 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.560 you go on to their page and they don't follow 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.480 Life on Cut, they don't follow you, they don't follow me, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.400 And I'm like, do you even know who we are 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.480 or are you just going to every like publicity to 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:53.920 try And so there's a part of it that I 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.120 understand why he was like, come on, bro, like at 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.440 least following me. So that was dumb on her behalf. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.280 She should have at least followed him. But I don't 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.320 see why this has gone any further. I don't see 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.960 why this exchange had to even leave the DMS. All 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.440 she has said is like fucking kissed his ass. All 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.800 she has said is I love you, I'd love to attend. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.600 All he had to say was I don't want you there. No, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.760 and you know you probably should have followed me, which 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.360 is fine. That exchange is fine. Why then did you 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.240 have to go and I'm assuming sell it, or even 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.080 if you didn't sell the story, you've leaked it. Why 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.560 would you go and leak the article for any There's 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.800 no reason then to publicly humiliate someone. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.640 I have so many feelings about this. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.200 When I read it, I was like, oh, I think 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.760 it says a lot more about the brand than it 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.040 does about the influencer, and like, look, this is not 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.680 us being like, oh, let's support the influencers. Someone protect them. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.760 I just think, like, it's very easy to hate on 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.160 an influencer. And I know, obviously because Carolina Santos. Maybe 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.199 she is not the most liked influencer after her time 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.880 on Mass, but she does have one hundred and thirty 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:56.760 five thousand followers. Brands use influencers to promote their products. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:57.880 All brands do it. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.520 It is an incredible effective and very very cut through 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.320 way of marketing and advertising. So I think it's a 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.880 bit rich to pick and choose in terms of course, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.720 you can pick and choose who you want at your shows, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.440 but I think it's a bit rich to pick and 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.920 choose who you will hang out to dry versus who 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.720 you're okay with collaborating with on your products. And I 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.880 think that the issue for me here is that because 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.800 she's not liked as a person, it's almost like it's 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.480 been Green Carter that it's okay to humiliate her, Like, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.280 how dare she asks for something? Yes, I agree with you, Rich, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.880 she should have been following the Instagram page. But there's 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.800 loads of brands that I wear and that I like, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.240 and I'm not following their Instagram page, Like I'm not 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.360 supporting it on Instagram, but I support it with my 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.200 money totally. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.920 Don't You don't also write to them and ask for 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:41.400 something free? 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.400 And I'm assuming if you ever did that, which you wouldn't, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.520 you'd follow them totally totally. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.880 In flip side to that, I speak about this from, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.120 you know, the aspect of someone who has worked in 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.839 the world of influencing, brands ask for free things all 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.400 the time, from metaluces brands constantly, and I'm talking like 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.040 all brands from big to small, email and ask influencers 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.920 to promote products or do things for free and don't 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.080 respect that they have a huge platform an audience that 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.880 is actually their business that they can monetize on. So 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.680 I think it kind of goes both ways. And for me, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.360 I think if you're a high fashion brand, if you're 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.080 someone who is trying to cement yourself as being premium 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.800 a luxurious product, why on earth would you want to 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.160 get down in the down and dirty of trying to 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.280 humiliate some influencer. It just makes you look like a bully. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.680 I don't think it makes the brand look premium. I 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.400 think it makes the brand look tacky that you've screenshot 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.400 these photos and then published them through Daily Mail. I 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.320 just I think it to me, the whole thing screens 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:38.840 of tackiness from the brand. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.120 Yeah, it's like what I said earlier in the episode 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.360 when I said if these sort of things hit different 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.400 in Australia compared to the rest of the world. And 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:46.960 one thing I want to add to that is the 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:51.160 word influencer in Australia is a dirty word. We don't 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.480 see it as something that should garner any respect. We 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.320 sort of almost say it like it's such a negative thing. Oh, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.520 they're an influencer. They're just an influencer, where in other 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.480 countries around the world it is quite respected and influences 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.160 are the people that would be invited to the front 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.200 row of fashion events because the brands realize that these 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.520 are the people that are actually buying these products, and. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:11.040 That is the thing. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.800 These are the people that will wear these outfits that 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.120 the fashion designers are promoting. So I don't understand why 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.120 there's all this hate towards them, But I thought this 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.640 was really interesting and I really really liked that she 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.720 came out and said it. So the ex Vogue editor, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.840 her name is Christy Clements. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.480 Big deal. Obviously Vogue is big in fashion. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.760 She has just come out in response to this year's 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.360 Fashion Week and she said, I reckon they deserve to 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.680 be there as well, they being influencers. Quote, everyone has 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.160 the right to participate and enjoy fashion Week. That's not 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.160 me being woke. That is the reality. Yes, fashion Week 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.040 is not quite as elite as it used to be. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.640 But you know what fashion is entertainment. The audience is 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.120 just as important as what is on the catwalk, and 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.640 I personally love to see all different kinds of people 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.520 in the front row. Fashion can't afford to be like 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.840 that anymore. It's a numbers game and it should be 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.640 so something that is enjoyed by everyone, regardless of what 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.440 their background is. I think that that is a brilliant 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.600 statement from someone that is in a respected fashion industry. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.640