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Speaker 1: Podcast Unite Our Voices, Quick Heads Up.

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Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on bros

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Speaker 2: on thirteen eleven fourteen or thirteen Young on One Thing

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Speaker 2: ninety two seven six for Aboriginal or toe straight Islanders.

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Speaker 3: It's not the mom compared to what Merd drews and

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Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty nine, the Postcard band it was serving

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Speaker 4: time for robbing a bank when he cut through steel

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Speaker 4: bars and jumped out a window at Fremantle Prison.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of people that were commenting on

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Speaker 3: our last place saying a criminal, I'm a smart criminal

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Speaker 3: never gets caught.

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Speaker 1: A good criminal is a smart criminal.

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Speaker 5: So they have this thing yearly in Parkly Prison called

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Speaker 5: in pacifica Day, whether the day or they set up

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Speaker 5: a mad Harmony Day for all the polynies and different

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Speaker 5: kinds of Maldis Vjan some more tongue any other ones

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Speaker 5: cook Islands robbing on a scale of one to ten

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Speaker 5: running what would you think? What would you rate this

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Speaker 5: as a sin or a crime in the eyes of God?

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Speaker 1: Ten being the worst, one being the least worst.

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Speaker 3: A Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of

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Speaker 3: Bros and Car.

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff have been happening, Jay. What's been

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Speaker 1: happening this week?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 5: We just had Australia Day. Shout out to Australia or

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Speaker 5: the the other. Oh yeah, yeah, it's mad, it's mad.

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Speaker 2: I spent the day out in the sun, Sports Day,

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Speaker 2: running around playing cricket, you know, all of the Aussie sports. Yeah, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm very blessed to be in this country.

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: What a beautiful country we live.

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Speaker 3: In A one Australia can't go wrong. We've been blessed

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Speaker 3: with one of the best countries in the world and

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Speaker 3: just seeing what's been happening overseas, it's just make me

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Speaker 3: ten times even more blessed. And yeah what about you, Ronnie.

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Speaker 2: As Actually, Australia Day was my son's birthday, so I

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Speaker 2: had a very pro and to anyone that's born on

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Speaker 2: Australia Day. Well, you guys are set for life because

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Speaker 2: you're basically having a birthday every day, on a non

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Speaker 1: Your set for life. Basically, whatever work you're doing, your

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Speaker 1: days off. I think Pauline.

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Speaker 3: Hanson talking to Anthony or Anthony Monday, sorry your name wrong.

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Speaker 3: He was suggesting that they'd have a two day holiday

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Speaker 3: to mourn the losses of like you know, these people,

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Speaker 3: and one for celebate Australia Day. Okay, what do you

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Speaker 3: think about that? I think pauland had she said no, sway,

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Speaker 3: what was Pauline Hanson's The argument was that it wasn't

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Speaker 3: gonna I forgot what she actually said. There were statistics

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Speaker 3: for the economy everything like that. Yeah, And I don't

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Speaker 3: know some people there was too much holidays and it

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Speaker 1: I think it's like the it's like the law of attraction.

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Speaker 5: You know, when you keep talking about negative things, it

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Speaker 5: becomes you, you know. But if you don't focus on

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Speaker 5: that and you talk about positive things, it becomes you,

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Speaker 5: you know. And I think you manifest life when you

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Speaker 5: keep speaking good even if you're from a bad area. Now,

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Speaker 5: to bring that back towards the brother Anthony Mandan and

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Speaker 5: Pauline Hans's conversation, I didn't see the conversation. I remember

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Speaker 5: flicking past something. But I would say there's multiple ways

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Speaker 5: to look at it, like there's multiple ways to look

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Speaker 1: That like it did. Australia obviously did have a time

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Speaker 5: It where look at me saying we that's because I'm

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Speaker 5: a proud Australian lad. Australia did get invaded, but it

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Speaker 5: So Australia was like a dumpyard. We were like a

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Speaker 5: that's when Europe was kind of like a clean place

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Speaker 5: and Australia was like the dumpyard. And then those convicts

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Speaker 5: of Australia now as we know it. Obviously it's progressed

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, I might be wrong.

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Speaker 5: But that's this, This is the this is the general

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think? Man?

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Speaker 2: That's news to me because I don't really get into politics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I didn't get into politics too, but I

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Speaker 3: do find the interesting that there was Australians and you

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Speaker 5: Look, I think I think there is there is always

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Speaker 5: a place to mourn. There's a rightful place to mourn,

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Speaker 5: which is why we mourn Anzac, Right, we mourn Anzac

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Speaker 5: because of the soldiers that.

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Speaker 1: Fought for our lives.

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Speaker 5: You know, there is a right time and place to

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Speaker 5: But but bots, botspots, spots, I think we shouldn't. We

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Speaker 5: shouldn't make it a part of our identity and who

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Speaker 5: we are as a people.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And when I say we.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying we as as a tongue in or

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Speaker 5: as as anything that an ex convict. I'm saying we,

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Speaker 5: as an Australian, as a proud Australian. We we should

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Speaker 5: be able to move forward and get past all of

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Speaker 5: this and come together as a people to unite over

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Speaker 5: the beautiful things that we have today in Australia.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it's about that. I think that's

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Speaker 3: Without further ado, speaking of Australia, we got one of

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Speaker 3: biggest what's his name again? He goes by the name

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Speaker 3: of Brendan James Abbott Brendan Jams convicted Australian banker, but

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Speaker 3: he's reported to have stolen hidden millions of dollars and

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Speaker 3: was dubbed the postcard Bandit.

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Speaker 1: Postcard Bandit. What a name it.

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Speaker 2: I'm on Wikipedia right now, I'm just going through. He's

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Speaker 2: currently still in jail obviously, and he's ages sixty three.

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Speaker 2: He's born in nineteen sixty two, so he's from back

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Speaker 2: in those days. Well, what do you call those days

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Speaker 2: like the Bonnie and Clyde days.

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Speaker 3: So I think he's still in jail today, and he's

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Speaker 3: what they had to say. Apparently he's trying to fight

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Speaker 5: Bro rubbing on a scale of one to ten, Runnie,

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Speaker 5: what would you think? What would you rate this as

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Speaker 5: a sin or a home in the hours of God,

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Speaker 5: ten being the worst, one being the least worst.

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Speaker 1: Ten ten holy, I think, because holy, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think just from a humanitarian perspective, like it's been

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Speaker 2: recorded in such a long time, ancient history times where

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Speaker 2: people just work for living in people work for a hard, earn,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: the farmers, the shepherds and like everyone just working. And

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Speaker 1: Should we paying tax or not?

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Speaker 2: And then Jesus goes on render to Caesars of what

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Speaker 2: is what's Caesars? And render to God what what is

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Speaker 2: And I found I was like, wow, said that basically

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Speaker 2: God at the same time. I think, I think robbing

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Speaker 2: even and it might start off innocently, like just taking

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Speaker 5: You're a kid, and it starts like that. That's how

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Speaker 5: But I do I don't think it's hard to rate

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Speaker 5: can be way worse, predatory scenes and murder and things

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Speaker 3: Used to do robin for living when we were young

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Speaker 3: But one thing I did realize when I growing up

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Speaker 3: a group of boys they robed dealers.

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Speaker 1: So you've got different groups.

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Speaker 3: You got the boys that deal and then you got

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Speaker 3: the boys that robbed the dealers. I always felt like

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Speaker 3: the boys that rob dealers were some of the worst boys,

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Speaker 3: Like you know, in the system. They were not to

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of robbing.

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Speaker 3: I do remember, like one of my main morals when

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Speaker 3: anyone for nothing. So never what would you say, step

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Speaker 3: on someone's toes for nothing?

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Speaker 5: If someone robbed a drug dealer, or if someone robbed

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Speaker 5: a robber, would it really be robbing th Like, if

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Speaker 5: he's robbing something.

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Speaker 1: That's an old question.

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Speaker 5: No in that case, no, Like is there is there

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Speaker 5: room for sympathy for people who did who who rip

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Speaker 5: off big time drug dealers who are ultimately contributing to,

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Speaker 2: So if you rip a big ripper already, is that

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I'm saying that that's where the

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Speaker 3: If you already robbed someone, you should be expected to

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Speaker 3: get robbed. I mean, you should expect to get that's

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Speaker 3: He escaped Freemantle prison by crafting a makeshift prison guard uniform.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what they do have now that I

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Speaker 2: Especially with this all this AI stuff giving you out

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Speaker 5: The thinking for us. The AI is helping a lot

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Speaker 1: This goes.

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Speaker 2: It's so important because what happens with all the dudes

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Speaker 2: It's so important for our new generations to know these

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Speaker 2: on AI, but you're not socializing social skill was you

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Speaker 3: That's a lesson I'd like to leave with everyone out

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Speaker 3: If you can if if boys in jail can do that,

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: The determination on some of these inmates, Bro.

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Speaker 5: And you know what they That just gave me a

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Speaker 1: Uh, bro.

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Speaker 5: So they have this in yearly in Parkly Prison called

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Speaker 2: I never got any taste of it. So I was

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Speaker 3: A few times they would have rama done and similar

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Speaker 3: It's just that's mad. Yeah, that's mad. But that outside

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: The boys are going to be chewing and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't care about.

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Speaker 2: Well, once we come in with the food, we've already

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Speaker 5: So love it. Also love it. I think it's going

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Speaker 5: of it was on their own accord. You know, they'll

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Speaker 5: of their family. But we're there to bring the boys back,

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Speaker 5: I think that's what Billy and Joe said. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to steal that boys. Family. Is it room for fitness

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Speaker 1: That it would be good.

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Speaker 2: But I think we're setting a perfect example, and I

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Speaker 2: ex criminals. I can't believe that the governor actually approved

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Speaker 1: But that's mad.

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Speaker 3: I was literally in Parklee only two years ago, not

441
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: even that long ago, and now Governor to say this

442
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: was here two years ago. There's no way I'm living

443
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: them in But what did you say?

444
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: He's seen the.

445
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 5: News, he saw the news clip, and bro, this is

446
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 5: what I mean. Like, I think it's been such a

447
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: blessing us finding this this new podcast home with Dan

448
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 5: the Man over here, and then straight away we popped

449
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 5: off on the news.

450
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: We've started the year off with a big bang.

451
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 5: And uh, it just goes to show how much of

452
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: the impact it is because the prison has never before

453
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 5: accepted ex convicts like from el Stacher, especially me. I

454
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 5: was there a year ago, so to be in one

455
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 5: of these sales a year ago and then to come

456
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 5: back that's got.

457
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: To be a Guinness record.

458
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: So we got two years ago I was there, we

459
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: got one year ago, Jay was there, and we got

460
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: now my older brother is in there right now there.

461
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna so when he can tell he's probably

462
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: coming back next to you, he's probably going to feed it,

463
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: come back in six months and come and to you know,

464
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: feed the boys. But I think it just goes to

465
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: show I think what we're doing is a mission ordained

466
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 2: by God himself, because this wouldn't been possible if it

467
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: was just us doing out of our own will you

468
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: know exactly?

469
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Speaker 1: And I believe a lot of these boys need a

470
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Speaker 1: second chance. But there's a two boys.

471
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Speaker 3: And that's one thing I want to promise these guys

472
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: from when I when I go there and tell them,

473
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: I want to promise these guys a platform. I want

474
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: them to change, so they can be able to come

475
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: here and talk about the story. They can tell the story.

476
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: I want to give you, promise these guys a platform

477
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: where they can tell their story of change because I

478
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: want all the brothers to come home.

479
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 5: We want to add two more f's to it, so

480
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 5: there's family, food, faith. We want to add fitness and funds,

481
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 5: and I think those two ones are the ones that

482
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 5: we're missing in the island of the community is funds

483
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 5: and fitness. If we can knuckle down on those two

484
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 5: and become the Fantastic five, then we'll become the avatar

485
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 5: of all elements.

486
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Speaker 3: Anyway, speaking of jail, we have I forgot his name.

487
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: Now we forgot what we're talking about.

488
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: Brendon James say, he's so, this guy has escaped prison

489
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: for the first time.

490
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 3: He's pretended to be a prison guard. He's got it now.

491
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: He was on the run and this is why they

492
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: called him the postcard bandit because why he was on

493
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: the run. They found photos of him in postcards pretty

494
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 3: much him living on the run, going now he's like

495
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 3: doing fun stuff.

496
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: So who's taking photos? Someone's taking photos of him, I

497
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: don't know.

498
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: Allegedly it was sent in from someone someone else who

499
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: is someone that's taken photos and they've sent her through postcards.

500
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: But people were originally saying that he was doing it

501
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: himself on purpose, just to sort of hot oh.

502
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: Okay, sort of saying yeah you can't you can't catch me,

503
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Well that that will make them burn.

504
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: Bro, you're gonna run for a fair bit. I'm not

505
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: sure how long, but then he got down again. They

506
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 3: caught him again and I don't know how how this

507
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: has happened, but he escaped when she escaped the second time,

508
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: How the hell does that happen in Australian These guys

509
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: are lacking, bro and from what I thought, like from

510
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: my knowledge inside, I do remember whenever someone was on

511
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: the news and they were like very popular on the news.

512
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 3: They were also very popular in jail. So screws used

513
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: to like get along gos like that. Like I say,

514
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: you were all all over the news. Jay has done this,

515
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: is robbed the bank, he's killed this person. Now you'll

516
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: eventually talk of the prison and guards want to come

517
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: up to you, and talks from.

518
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: Some prison guards. Brother that you've got to account for

519
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: human human failure. Yeah, because even even the girl, the

520
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: girl guards that ended up sleeping with the prison inmates

521
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: and stuff like, how do things like this happen?

522
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: How can they prevent these things from happening? You really can't,

523
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 5: because it's it's human, it's in human error. You have

524
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: to account for human error.

525
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: That, I'll be honest, But we just spoke about boys

526
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: being able to do whatever they want behind four walls.

527
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

528
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be surprised because I also talk to running

529
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: about this how they're how jail's breeding lawyers and doctors

530
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: and everything. They also breed like mad psychologists, boys that

531
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: will read your mind like straight away.

532
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: And it's also it also connects to what you were saying.

533
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: You know, when you're when you've been cornered to a

534
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: corner and like your brain starts. But you'll be surprised

535
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: how smart these boys can can come into in regards

536
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: to like seduction and like the Perfesson.

537
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'd be surprised.

538
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: And like I think, if you spend a bit of

539
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: time in jail, you eventually become like you can eventually

540
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: read personalities and read minds. You don't even have to

541
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: study it. It just you just pick up on it

542
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: and your brain is developing. I feel like in jail,

543
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: maybe you're using sixty percent of your brain. Yeah, yeah,

544
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: at least yeah, surely, yeah, because you're you're desperate, you're

545
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: desperate and so and maybe.

546
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: Sixty is too high.

547
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: Probably forty five inmates were speaking, but I don't know what.

548
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: I just had a run down in my head of

549
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: all the prisoners I've been here. I'm like, just go

550
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: forty five.

551
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, very very manipulative, like some of these inmates

552
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: can get and like, you know, I don't blame the girls, bro,

553
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: we said on another podcast, men are leaders. Ladies will

554
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: always lead on to a man who's leading it. Yeah,

555
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: that's why it's so important.

556
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that they belonging that space of work,

557
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: don't belong there.

558
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: But it's like construction too, Like you know, I get it,

559
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, the whole, the whole gener belong there.

560
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: I could be wrong, I could be sexist, but you know,

561
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 5: bros and cons, we talk unfiltered, we talk raw and

562
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: how we think things. Yeah, I feel like a female prisoner,

563
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 5: oh sorry, a female prison guard that wears makeup. And

564
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 5: by the way, they all do. I've never seen one

565
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 5: female guard that doesn't. And they have their hair up

566
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 5: in a little button or something. And let's be honest.

567
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 5: The clothes are never bagging, are they. It's pretty fit.

568
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 5: It's pretty fit on. And I think all these things

569
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 5: are for reasons. And when you have like a girl

570
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 5: like that walking around a maximum prison with guys that

571
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 5: have been there for years, it's it's I don't know,

572
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 5: what what is that? It's it's kind of like, what is.

573
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: That is that?

574
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: Like kind of like it's not danglingked monkey running around lions,

575
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Just a monkey running around

576
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: lions and just like having their tongue out at all

577
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: the lions.

578
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Like it's just nothing good can.

579
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: Come of this, And I think so obvious that I

580
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: don't know how how like they they haven't allowed it

581
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: to stop happening. But then again, they've also allowed men

582
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: to go to women prisons from transgender It's we're already

583
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: ready way past that. They're letting men sleep with women

584
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: in prison.

585
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: So I thin in the ladies defense. When I was

586
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: in prison, it was easier to talk to a female

587
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: officer who works.

588
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: To talk to a guy. I'm gonna bit bro.

589
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that could be a strategy that they use

590
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: because like a lot of guys that like male screws,

591
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: you know how it is runny automatically, I hate them

592
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: before we've ever met this play. You see the black

593
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: wearing blue walks into the yard. What the fuck has

594
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: this grunk got to say to us? And then you

595
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: see a female officer and then she walks into the yard.

596
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: She's gonna tell us something. All the boys are listening

597
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, what she got to say?

598
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: True?

599
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: It could be good.

600
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 5: B Yeah, I would say the complete opposite. A for me,

601
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: it's actually funny. But but I know, you guys know

602
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 5: I don't lie. Right when I was in jail, and

603
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: I would go see the nurse or the psych and

604
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: I'll pretend I'm listening the first thing I'm saying back

605
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: to the boys.

606
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: When I'm back in say yard, lad fucking likes me. Lad.

607
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: She was staring at.

608
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Me, Lad, Like that's the first thing I would think, Lad,

609
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of these are gonna lie

610
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: and say.

611
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: That it's only me.

612
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: But nah, when I go to school inside prison, like

613
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: if if if one of the lady teachers was saying

614
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: it would say, oh, you're so smart, I look at

615
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: one of the other boys, and I wink at you.

616
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because like when I was

617
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: in that, when I was in prison, or when I

618
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: was in juvie, like that's all I thought about, Like

619
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: any girl that spoke to me. I'm spoken before about

620
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: my problems with lust, and any time of in the

621
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: officer would talk to me. At the back of my head,

622
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: there's a whole nother scenario things happening as she's talking.

623
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: But then it's different because some I think some guards,

624
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: some guy guards are like a gronks, but then some

625
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: of them are actually, you know, they really care, you know, some.

626
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: Decent one the office for them because even though the

627
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: ones they get shut, that's true, but the boys show

628
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: no mercy in there, bro And it's it's like that,

629
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: It's like that you can't just be the one, one

630
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: odd one to be like, hey, this screw is actually

631
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: all right. There was there was actually an inmate that

632
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: was close with who he is spending the rest of

633
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: his life in prison, and he had no choice but

634
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: to get close with the screws, you know, because that's

635
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: his home. So he does he like gets along with

636
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: them and everything, and you know, the boys didn't like it.

637
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: Like a lot of like my own people, our own

638
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: people ended up you know, jumping in and like you know,

639
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: it's it's just prison like rules. That's how prison is.

640
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: You can't get along with discrews no matter what. Yeah,

641
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: this guy is sort of like it was. He was

642
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: sort of in a pickle because he's he's locked up forever.

643
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: He's never.

644
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's that's that's just one example. But anyways,

645
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: back to because this guy escaped back to being manipulative

646
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: and all of that. You mentioned earlier something about Bonnie

647
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 3: and Clyde. That was weird because we found that with

648
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: most criminals, a lot of girls are just willing to

649
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: die next to their partners.

650
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

651
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: This also ties back into men being leaders What what

652
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: do you got to say about that?

653
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: I really think that a woman can really help a man. Well,

654
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 5: that's what they're there for, right, They're there to help

655
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: a man. But under a man's leadership. Bro, if if

656
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: the boat's sinking, she was, she's going to sink with him.

657
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 5: You know, if the boat's sailing, she's going to sail.

658
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: He obviously holds a role in the direction they're going

659
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: to head, you know. And I think Bonnie and Clyde

660
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: is one of the perfect examples for us to see

661
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 5: that Sorry, of god, there's no smelling sense on if

662
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 5: there was, this microphone will be dead.

663
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: But kindly is a perfect example for like that saying

664
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: through thick and thin, you know, for everything. But would

665
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: you say that that's a good thing or a bad thing?

666
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: That girls sometimes they don't have a mind of their own.

667
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: We've seen it so many times that some girls it's

668
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: hard for them to leave abusive relationships. Yeah, oh bro,

669
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: these these topics are probably for another podcast.

670
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: Bro, I don't think we'll ever stop talking. I just

671
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: remembered something. Hold on, this is actually going to time

672
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 5: so perfectly to this. Yeah, bro, Mark Hunt's book. Have

673
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 5: you guys read Mark Hunt's book?

674
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: No? No, have you?

675
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: It's called Born to Fight? No you haven't read it?

676
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 5: Good because I haven't either. But I've heard about.

677
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: This book, lad, and the information that's that I've heard

678
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: about this book is wild.

679
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Lad. It's wild, lad, like to the.

680
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: Point I've got goosebumps when this person was telling me

681
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 5: about the book Mark Huntland he is the man, bro,

682
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: like when you when you win? B how can I

683
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 5: so so apparently apparently I need to the book? Sorryal

684
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: saw if this is not on par with exactly what

685
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: it is. But he had a traumatic childhood. We all

686
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: talk about traumatic childhoods becoming criminals, and that nothing compared

687
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 5: to what this bloke went through. Nothing nothing, nothing, nothing nothing.

688
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to even dive into it. You

689
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 5: should I dive into it?

690
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Or do you?

691
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Guys? Just want to read it, do a brief dive

692
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: into it.

693
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so everyone knows Mark Hunt right the way he

694
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 5: is now. When so when other people would talk about

695
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: their family, that would always talk about how happy they

696
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: were and how everything was so good, you know, But

697
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: when every time Mark Hunt thought about his family or

698
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: the first thing that came to his head was hunger. Hunger,

699
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 5: like eating food because they never had food in their house.

700
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 5: When I say never had food, I'm not talking about

701
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: how you know, how we used to. We had to

702
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: settle for a few things that wasn't you know. It

703
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: wasn't like it wasn't crab or lobster. But we weren't that bad,

704
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 5: you know. This guy was actually like they would be

705
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: starving to the point where they would ask random people

706
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: walking past in front of their house for food, and

707
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: the parents would just sit there and laugh. They would

708
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: sit there and laugh and watch the kids asking for food.

709
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: They used to hide biscuits and tea all the day

710
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 5: on top of the cupboard where the kids can't reach

711
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 5: them for the missionaries when the missionaries would come and visit.

712
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: And when the missionaries will come visit, that's when they

713
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 5: will pull the biscuits down, and the kids would watch

714
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 5: in the hallway and they would be drooling just watching

715
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: the missionaries eat the biscuits. As soon as they leave

716
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 5: the house, they would rush in there and smash the

717
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: biscuits in that because that's how bad their hunger was.

718
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: They were that hungry. Now, that doesn't even scratch the

719
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 5: surface of what happened. So as I'm hearing about this

720
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: book only in chapter chapter two, in the beginning of

721
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: the book, it goes on to say that Mark Hunt's

722
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 5: father was raping his sister over and over again during

723
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: not feeding them. So, mind you, the kids are probably anorexic,

724
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 5: they have and eden for ages. The father is raping

725
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 5: the daughter daily. Now that's not even the worst part.

726
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 5: The mother knows, she knows. She tells Mark and the

727
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: other siblings to go to the park when the father

728
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: is going to the room with the daughter. Crazy, crazy,

729
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 5: absolutely crazy. Now this ties back into what we were

730
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: just talking about, how sometimes a girl can be so

731
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: infatuated with a man that that's all she knows. She

732
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 5: can't think for herself, she can't think for her own

733
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: brain cleaning, lost her identity. This mother has lost her identity.

734
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: She is willingly letting her daughter get raped like severely

735
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 5: by her husband. She got impregnated. She got impregnated. This

736
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: is when the story gets stuffed up. She ran away

737
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: from home to New Zealand to live with her uncle,

738
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 5: who then starts raping her as well. Oh, crazy, crazy,

739
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 5: insane story to New Zealand. She ran away from home? Yeah,

740
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: I think so. She ran away from home from Australia

741
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: to live with the uncle in New Zealand who then

742
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 5: repeatedly raped her as well. And guess what, She's still

743
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: alive today. She's happily married and she has kids and

744
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: a lot of Mark Hunt's testimony is just he remembers

745
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: when they were young and every time he was crying

746
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 5: like he was hungry for food, the sister would always say,

747
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: you know, Mark, one day you're gonna you're gonna have

748
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 5: all the food in the world and you can eat

749
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 5: as much as you want. And then that's why he

750
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 5: became like a big eater, so to speak.

751
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: I think so, But bro, what like, what a story?

752
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: What a story? Bro?

753
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: As if they haven't made a movie, I think they have,

754
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: Are you reckon? I think they have? I know they

755
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: made a documentary. Yeah, I think Wendstand or something. I

756
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: watched it last year or something. I remember it was

757
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: a documentary. But they need to make a movie, man, bro.

758
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: You know, after hearing this story.

759
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: This will probably like override of once we're worries.

760
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 5: There's there's so much unpacked there. Well, once I'm worried,

761
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 5: once we're worried. It wasn't based on a true story.

762
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: I do know a lot of families go through exactly that,

763
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: and yeah, much or worse, but a lot of it

764
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 5: was made for the Hollywood antics, you know, whereas this,

765
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: I think this is more brutal.

766
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's ten times brutal.

767
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, like ten times brutal, like to be for the

768
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: for the mother to know that that was happening. Yeah,

769
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: that's what it got me in the heart, because like

770
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 5: we don't know that that type of lover mother can have,

771
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: you know, because we've only experienced a good loving mother,

772
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: so we don't know how that would have felt. But

773
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: you can just imagine there's just there's so much unpackedform

774
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: what I just said there in that last little five minutes,

775
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 5: I don't even know if we should dive into.

776
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: It because it's just so much unpacked. So much to

777
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: digest in what I just said.

778
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 5: But all I'm going to say is just from hearing that,

779
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 5: I really want to dive into his book because I've

780
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 5: read all of my first autobiography books of fifty cent

781
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: Mike Tyson, I read more inside and that's what I'm

782
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: not a reader, But when you're in a room with

783
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 5: nothing else around you, you become a reader. You got

784
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 5: no choice. And so that's that's probably the first book

785
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty six that I want to reach out to.

786
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: The Also, Mark Hunt, I'm going to be reading your

787
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 5: book ors just from what I heard. It's just made

788
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 5: me because I was already a fan of yours, but

789
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: this has made me see you on a whole different,

790
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 5: different realm. You really came from scrubs and came from nothing.

791
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 5: And yeah, I hope you win your case as well,

792
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: because I know he's fighting against people cheating in the

793
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: in the fighting.

794
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

795
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Anyways, after the sixth time of veering off the topic,

796
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: what is this guy's name? I think we forgot James Abbott. Luckily,

797
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: someone remember if this guy is alive and watching this,

798
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 2: he's going to be doing this whole the time.

799
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna name this freestyle.

800
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: Anyways, back to Abbat, there is a very important message

801
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: in this in this topic because we have a lot

802
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: of our boys who loved doing armed robbers down to

803
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. I've seen someone robbing a store the

804
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: other day the other week and he was in your

805
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: your your ballet carver, your you know, your classic black

806
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: yeah fit yeah, twenty twenty six. Now he's pulled up

807
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: and he's pulled out his gun. I don't even know

808
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: how much he can make nowadays, but I'm pretty sure

809
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: you're pulled in out less than five thousand.

810
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: I had to be a teenager, bro. You can't learn.

811
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I was shocked.

812
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: But look, I think this is an important message because

813
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: this man, who was one of the best arm robbers

814
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: in Australia's history is now facing life imprisonment.

815
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: They've called him.

816
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: For the last time, and I think he tried to

817
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: fight his way out of it because it is a

818
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: harsh sentence. You know, you got people murderers in there

819
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: that go out after manslaughter. Yeah, you know, manslaughter is

820
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: not even as bad as giphs in the quart are yet,

821
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: So if you if you do, you could get more

822
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: there's someone that goes down for mansorda. Anyways, we'll quickly

823
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: watch this videos.

824
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: He's one of Australia's most notorious bank robbers and prison escapes,

825
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 4: successfully breaking free twice, once dressed as a prison guard.

826
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 4: But now the postcard bandit wants to be free, launching

827
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: an appeal against his extraordinary forty seven year prison term.

828
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: It is a sentence which is much longer than you

829
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: would serve for murder.

830
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: In fact, probably double what you'd serve for murder.

831
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 4: As it stands, Abbott's sentence will expire in fourteen years.

832
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: He'd be eligible for parole in twenty twenty six.

833
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: He spent enough time in jail, is that the mum

834
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: compared to what murd drews.

835
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: And that get Ery Demassi nine news.

836
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: Oh wow, so he's serving longer because he got extradited,

837
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 5: he got transferred over and now he has to serve

838
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 5: two different sentences because the wa want him to serve

839
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: time there as well.

840
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so that basically.

841
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: A strange but that's like a loophole in the system.

842
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 5: It's like a little great area.

843
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think escaping prison itself as a lot

844
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: like another Yeah, yeah, he is on it and they

845
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: don't muck around.

846
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, they don't munk around his stuff.

847
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 5: But I'll be honest, have you guys ever thought about

848
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: it as ever crossed the one when you were in prison,

849
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 5: in the deep of it, you just thought, bro, imagine

850
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: if I escaped.

851
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: Y'are at the wall.

852
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: But I always thought the fear of knowing that it

853
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: was going to come back ten times harter.

854
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: It always just made me get That was actually one

855
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: of my biggest nightmares. Like I used to have because

856
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I would be in jail

857
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: sometimes and I'm sleeping and I'm dreaming that I've literally

858
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: escaped the prison. I'm running on ground, I'm running on

859
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: the grass.

860
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then like I don't know why, but I'll

861
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: wake up panick in my heart beating so fast.

862
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck would you escape? And then

863
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: I was like, oh fuck, I'm in jail. Thank god,

864
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: you know I'm still in jail.

865
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: I used to be.

866
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: I used to get so happy waking up. That was

867
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: actually one of my biggest fears, was escaping in jail.

868
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: And even there, it's crazy. I think it comes to

869
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 3: my mind because as a prisoner, you think about escaping, man,

870
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: I could just stop spencing gap it and so I

871
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: think it comes back in your dream sometimes. And but

872
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: escam in jail is one of the worst things you

873
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: could do. Even if you're doing fifteen years, you know

874
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: you're never getting out after you escape the jail. And

875
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: I gotta admit, but nothing compares to the day you

876
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: get released. But when you go through that front exit door,

877
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: or that you do.

878
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Us do that walk us through, that feeling when the

879
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: roller door, it's just a real feeling, but like nothing compares.

880
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: It's just like, let me explain it almost like a

881
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: like a climax, like you're at your full climax. But

882
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: like that's the that's that's the rate I'm putting it

883
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: at because a high rate, it's.

884
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: A high rate.

885
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: You can't get to that feeling because it's wow. And

886
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: then like you sort of have anxiety as well because

887
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: you don't even know if it's real or not.

888
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: That's how big it is. The feeling is just so.

889
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: Surreal you don't really feel like it's happening. Bro. The

890
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: first thing I remember when I walked out the locked door,

891
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: the first thing I thought was weird was because you

892
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 2: go through one door and then they say, they say

893
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: to just open the next door.

894
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: You're like opening your door yourself. You feel so weird

895
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 5: because you're so used to the guard putting the key.

896
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: So they turned to speaker up. Yeah, you're right, you're

897
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 5: right to go through. Just open the door and you're free.

898
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 5: You're looking at the handle and you're like, what the hell?

899
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Everyone?

900
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: I remember the first thing I saw when I opened

901
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: the door. All of my senses, my five senses, like

902
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: they it's like they just came to life, like ten times.

903
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: My eyesight, my smell. The first thing I saw. It

904
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: was so bright. The birds were going around here, the trees,

905
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: the lees rustling.

906
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Everything so sensitive felt life.

907
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: I felt life straight away, which is what we take

908
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: for granted day day to day. And I came outside

909
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: and I could taste freedomland. I could it in the air.

910
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what it tastes like now, but I

911
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: could taste it. I knew what it tasted like, and

912
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: I knew what it smelled like. I knew what it

913
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: heard like, I knew what it looked like. Yeah, I

914
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: knew what it felt like. All of my senses came

915
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: to life. That was the first thing I noticed, and

916
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: my brother came and picked me up. Malely came and

917
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: picked up Remember you came with yelchin. Yeah, these guys

918
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: came and picked me up, and I just remember like

919
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: I was overwhelmed by how.

920
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Beautiful nature is. Do you know what? That was the

921
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: first thing that that just shocked me. I was shocked.

922
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: But just you know, now we drive past trees and

923
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: birds and animals and we're just like, we're just I

924
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 5: don't know, we've got TikTok brain.

925
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I came out, I was just like, Bro,

926
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: we live in such a beautiful world. Bro.

927
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: I remember still axed me to it today. But I

928
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: couldn't get to the city and be like, wow, look

929
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: at this building. You know, I can just walk around

930
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: this scast. I think that's I love these guy's videos.

931
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: But because he's been saying what we all every time

932
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: we come out, we get around the city, the smallest

933
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 3: things that the most stupid things.

934
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, look at you know what.

935
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 5: Even to this day, my missus thinks I'm pretty like

936
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 5: she she goes bro because when she talks about me

937
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: to her friend and she goes, oh, my husband's not

938
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: He's not that hard to impress. Like what the does

939
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 5: that mean what is the heart to repress?

940
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: And she goes, oh yeah, you chuck a fit about

941
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: like all the little bottles in our hotel rooms.

942
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, when you go to a new hotel room.

943
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: I will always open the cupboards and the jaws and

944
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: if they have like even the court, I don't even

945
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: drink one, but they have the cork things open one

946
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: look at this, look at this, and I'll get so

947
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: like I'll get shocked. We got an iron in here,

948
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: We've got a washing machine in here.

949
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 5: I still get shocked from like simple things, even like

950
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: a pork row at a good decent, good pork row

951
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 5: at a bakery will just will shock me off my blankers.

952
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: My gallery, but you will spin out.

953
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: I've got like random photos of a pigeon at the

954
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: city or the Harbor.

955
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: Bridge for ship.

956
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I had weird photos of just a tea, like

957
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, well most of them don't

958
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: know that. Like you know, when you're getting transferred and

959
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: you're getting tipped to another del and you're sitting in

960
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: that truck, that.

961
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: Look you feel that little square wondering when I'm going.

962
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: When you're in that truck and you're leaving sorry, it

963
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: was the worst six You.

964
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Know what, I just remember, Lad, this is how simple

965
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: men are as creatures.

966
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 5: I remember in Juvie Ladd, we were out on the

967
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 5: wreck area. Everyone's playing basketall everyone's walking around. I'm sitting down.

968
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 5: I see a lizard with two heads. Listen, had two heads.

969
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: I can't remember it's two heads or two tables, but

970
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 5: there was two. There was two of something. I look

971
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 5: at this, Listen, I'm bro I was so shocked, and

972
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 5: I called. I called the also, Ben, Ben, come look

973
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 5: at this. Ben came. We're both just standing there looking

974
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: at it. We called more boys.

975
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, half the yard is we have

976
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: a circle around these lizards, and we're all just staring

977
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: at this lizard. The workers are like, what the hell's

978
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: going on over there? They come, and then then guys

979
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: as well, they come. They start staring at the lizard.

980
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: But this is what I mean. Men were so simple.

981
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: We're such simple creatures. We get amazed by the most

982
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: dumbest things sometimes. Yeah, I remember, yeah, oh no, you

983
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: go finishing. I remember mcquarie. It's one of the it's

984
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: rather one of the best jails in Sydney. Yeah, they

985
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: they got a I don't know if you came and

986
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: visited me up there in Wellington. They had a brand

987
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: new cafe and the boys were going on about these

988
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: raps that had chicken snitzle say, ever since I stepped

989
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: foot in the jail.

990
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: All the ways to be like they got these mad raps. Bro,

991
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: it's lovely, it's got everything. I'll go to the cafe.

992
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: It's a normal rap, right, It's just got chicken and

993
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the sauce. I guess that's a man

994
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: that that is, like obviously simple thing.

995
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 5: We always talk about how prison is ship life, but

996
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: in somewhat way, it kind of does reset you to

997
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: appreciate ship things like you appreciate like just a simple rap.

998
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: You appreciate socks that fit well, you appreciate under these

999
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: that feel good. You're like you tell the boys like Brian,

1000
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: these undis are man, or like these look at the

1001
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: fit of these pants, like something so dumb you would

1002
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 5: never talk about outside here, or like the smell of

1003
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 5: a shampoo, you know what I mean, Like these things

1004
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 5: are big inside there, you know. But then you just

1005
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: appreciating things that you never would have outside here.

1006
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: But I think that's one thing you guys can take

1007
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: from it. A lot of boys that are like a yearning,

1008
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: like what do you call it? What's the word for it.

1009
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: A lot of boys are longing for just simplicity. But

1010
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: we're very simple people, and it's hard for us to

1011
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: realize this because we're outside and we see everything. But

1012
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: there are a lot of boys who are dying for

1013
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: like simple things.

1014
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1015
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you now, but I went to a

1016
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 3: certain level in the game where I've got to peek

1017
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: at some of the highest some boys at the highest levels,

1018
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: and you know, nothing could bring real peace until you're

1019
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: you're grateful with what you have. You can never you

1020
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: can never find real peace until you're grateful with what's

1021
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: in front of you. And that could be the most

1022
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: important things. There's a lot of boys. You might be

1023
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: on a low level, you might not be making much

1024
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: right now, but if you have that mindset to be

1025
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: grateful with what you've got now is what's.

1026
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: Going to take you to the next level. Brothers.

1027
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: Before we wrapped up up the story of the guy

1028
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: whoever his name is, h, I knew what sort of

1029
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: advice could you give just going off this story? What

1030
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: what sort of advice could he give to anyone who

1031
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: maybe walk in the same path, and a lot of

1032
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: boys who go on the run, a lot of boys

1033
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: who love going on.

1034
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: I've said this.

1035
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 5: I've said this before, I think on the first podcast

1036
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 5: I ever had on Bros and Cons. I've stolen. I've

1037
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 5: stolen so much money in my life, like in my past.

1038
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 5: And the money that I spent that I stole it

1039
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 5: was so fast. But all the money that was hard

1040
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 5: will spent. That was the money that I put. I've

1041
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: rolled into business ventures because I worked so hard for

1042
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 5: this money. I treated it so differently. Whereas if you

1043
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: know when you gamble, when you win like two thousand bucks,

1044
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: that's going in the next day because you know that rightfully,

1045
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 5: it wasn't even yours, do you know what I mean?

1046
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: But if you've.

1047
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 5: Really worked hard for something, Bro, if you work like

1048
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 5: ten hours in the sun for this, even if it's

1049
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 5: eight hundred dollars, that you will be spending that every

1050
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: single dollar properly because you know how hard it was.

1051
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: And I think that's why that's why we were we

1052
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: were advocates in the beginning for working hard. It wasn't

1053
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: to be a slave of you know, the matrix but

1054
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: it was just to learn how to have hard earned money,

1055
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 5: because once you know how to harness hard earned money,

1056
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 5: then everything else comes into place, you know, if you're

1057
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 5: just used to a quick fix, like getting a big

1058
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 5: feta or like winning the lottery.

1059
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I still haven't bought up one lottery ticket.

1060
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: To this day, but but I have gambled, So I

1061
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: don't know. That was kind of dumb. I don't know

1062
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: why I said that. I tried to look cool there, but.

1063
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like, I think working hard

1064
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: for money there is there's such a beautiful simplicity in

1065
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 5: it that I think every man should have. Every man

1066
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 5: should feel. We should all endure that. What that feeling

1067
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 5: is working ten hours on a hot day in the sun,

1068
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: We need to feel that because that's how we get

1069
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 5: the bread. That's how you become a breadwinner.

1070
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1071
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't even believe, like even before you

1072
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: get to that stage, everything you do in the dark

1073
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: wall eventually come come to life. Says yeah, Court got

1074
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: these I forgot the verse. But it's so true that

1075
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: same whatever you do in the dark comes to the light.

1076
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: So the question is never about if you're going to

1077
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: get caught after you do. A crime is gonna it's

1078
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: gonna be the question. The real question is going to

1079
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: be how are you going to answer your crime? Or

1080
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 3: when when you're gonna get when you're gonna get caught,

1081
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: because you're always going to come out and you're gonna

1082
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: get caught one way or the other. And so I

1083
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: want to ask I want you guys to ask yourself,

1084
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: how are you going to answer to your crime when

1085
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: you have to stand in front of people and talk

1086
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 3: about it and tell and tell everyone about you. Come

1087
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: because I'm telling you now there's there was a lot

1088
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: of people that were commenting on our last post saying

1089
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: a criminal, I'm a smart criminal never gets caught.

1090
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: A good criminal is a smart criminal. And do you

1091
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: know what, like you got to say that? There were

1092
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: so many comments.

1093
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: I had females coming and telling it, coming on the person,

1094
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: telling us about what gangsters are.

1095
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: So I was I was actually shocked because I was

1096
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: I was saying like I was saying, like, you know,

1097
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: gangsters have no moral ethics and blah blah blah. And

1098
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: then he had all these people saying, oh, that's because

1099
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: you've never met a real gangster.

1100
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: And I'm part of the Russian mouff and my family

1101
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: is so gangster.

1102
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a lot of people were like, and these

1103
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: are people that are still stuck in that same mindset,

1104
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: the glorifying criminals, glorifying gangsters, and well, well you know,

1105
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: I was just shocked to see some females on there.

1106
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Some girls commented, oh you've never mete gangsters? Yeah, and

1107
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: just see what what about? Like whoever?

1108
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: But it's coming out openly on social media talking about

1109
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: how gangster they are or how gangster they know people.

1110
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: They are far from gangs being against Yeah, the realers

1111
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 3: gangsters will never expose themselves to social media, first of all.

1112
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: But the brother did have an important message. If you

1113
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: do have morals as a gangster, you will eventually get

1114
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: it to a point where you will get.

1115
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: Fucked over by someone. And it's true.

1116
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: And a bit of the rules cut out, We cut

1117
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 3: some context out just to our rage bait.

1118
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: You goes into our YouTube video. But that's why that's different, Why.

1119
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: That's that's why they were on my nuts bur because

1120
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: but you know the editing team, bro, they love rage bathing,

1121
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: they love rage baiting.

1122
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Well you know what, through me, I don't know what.

1123
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: I always see my head on the reels. Well, look,

1124
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: this is what happened.

1125
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: We've been giving a lot of context forout our uls

1126
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 3: and we love that because we love it when you're

1127
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: going to follow our rules. But the edit team was saying, hey,

1128
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: we need more people to follow YouTube. You guys are

1129
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: putting in too much context out and then so I

1130
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: gave him the green eye said cut the context out,

1131
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: make it controversial.

1132
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Take reels as well.

1133
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 5: It definitely worked because Bro, my inbox from the last

1134
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 5: video was flooded. Everyone's trying to teach me. Everyone's starting

1135
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 5: to lecture me. But Bro, like I think in any way,

1136
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 5: shape or form, however we're going to talk on this podcast.

1137
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 5: That's our cross to carry. People are gonna like us,

1138
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: people gonna hate us. We're not called to be liked.

1139
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 5: We're caught to be obedient.

1140
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: Amenation and oxy shed and also, man, they're the best

1141
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: supplement Giant brand.

1142
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: If you want to lose weight and build.

1143
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: Some muscle, get onto some oxen shred Bro, Protein bars,

1144
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: protein powder.

1145
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Next one will bring on the prore workout.

1146
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: Bro. They got everything. Man, what do you what do

1147
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: you want? What do you need lose Raight, We've got something.

1148
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: We've got something very mad. That's coming up. I think

1149
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna have a good bye song soon. Yeah,

1150
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: you guys have seen those those goodes.

1151
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Oh, I reckon we should? I think should.

1152
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 5: It's insane how far my perception has changed of my

1153
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 5: criminal career before I used to be like, because I

1154
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: remember when I went into park Lee, when I was

1155
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: on the news, all the boys were like, hey, I

1156
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: just saw you on the news, lad, and you know

1157
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 5: the guards and like I get that feeling song like yeah,

1158
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 5: fuck yeah, you know, but I'm the man. But then

1159
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 5: now it's become a thing where I hate even telling

1160
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 5: people that, like like I.

1161
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: Got anything to do with it.

1162
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 5: Unfortunately I have to because some people know me on

1163
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 5: social media that and what I am. But I don't

1164
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 5: want that to be my identity, you know. I don't

1165
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 5: want that my identity to just be someone that used

1166
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: to be a criminal and is now normal, because to

1167
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 5: be honest, to be normal, it should just be normal,

1168
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: you know.

1169
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it shouldn't be a super power. So I hate that.

1170
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 5: Like now it's like something where I don't even want

1171
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 5: to bring up, and I go red when my missus

1172
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 5: brings it up at a dinner table. With new friends

1173
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 5: or something, I literally go red lad like, because I'm

1174
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 5: really really when I say I'm past that whole criminal life,

1175
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: I don't even like I feel cringe in my stomach

1176
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 5: when I see videos come up or when I was

1177
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 5: on the news or something like that, you know. And

1178
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 5: it's even the people that surround myself with as well,

1179
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: because if you're surrounded by criminals who still like subconsciously

1180
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 5: glorify it, then you'll feel normal.

1181
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: But because I'm.

1182
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: Surrounded now by entrepreneurs and people that are hard driven, passionate,

1183
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: you know, workers, businessmen, bro. That's that's not that's not

1184
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: the caliber of of like people that they want to

1185
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: be around. So it's over time, I've shaped my thoughts into,

1186
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: you know, becoming someone new