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Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests.

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Speaker 2: So welcome to the hot seat. My guess introduced themselves.

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Speaker 2: So what is your name?

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Speaker 3: My friend? My name is Stephen Madson.

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Speaker 2: Oh you did that with a really nice My name

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Speaker 2: is Lake.

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Speaker 4: I felt like I was doing a slate on a

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Speaker 4: self taken a light agent, you know, Space City.

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Speaker 2: Would you say sweet or savory with food?

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Speaker 3: Savory? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've been talking about health this whole time.

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Speaker 2: What would be like a last meal?

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Speaker 4: My last meal would be some sort of Mexican feast,

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Speaker 4: probably like a big vegetarian nacho's, like salty things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that isn't that kind of Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 2: like a mug?

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Speaker 3: I love a Margie. Yeah, it's a salt thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, how do you feel that, miss cal I feel okay.

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Speaker 4: About it's probably not the thing I'm rushing to first. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe a bit, just a little salt rimmed margarita.

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Speaker 2: Oh really for me, I find Margie's too sweet.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's like that kind of lemony,

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Speaker 4: limey bitterness, like we don't want it to be too

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Speaker 4: sweet either. Yeah, as song as it's like, yeah, more salty, sour,

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Speaker 2: Okay, No, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: You're getting be excited for like Christmas and celebrating.

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Speaker 3: Like a very Australian summer kind of drink.

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Speaker 2: It definitely does. Do you have a favorite.

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Speaker 4: City, favorite city to live in or to visit or

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Speaker 2: Feels like, whatever feels good it can be to live

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love I love Sydney. Sidney's got like

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Speaker 4: I probably have to say New York. I just think

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Speaker 4: there's something totally magical about New York to us. I think,

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Speaker 4: especially as Australians, it's a bit emerald city to us,

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Speaker 4: this magical place you've seen in films and you get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they say in New York it's one place where

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the city that never sleeps. Yeah, there's that exciting,

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Speaker 2: Oh so good. It's so good. But you do come back, like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've only ever, I think the most simmer I've

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Speaker 4: three weeks. Maybe if you lived there for several years,

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Speaker 3: It's just totally magical to me.

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Speaker 2: Oh good bagels too, So okay. What about nature spots?

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Speaker 4: Nature spots, I'd probably say again, boyingly where I grew up,

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Speaker 3: So probably New Zealand Norway that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: This is a weird tangent.

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Speaker 1: But there's an amazing health retreat in Queenstown called a

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Speaker 2: If you ever and it's all plant based.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you high can do yogs and get massages,

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Speaker 1: hot cold therapy. You should totally treat yourself one day.

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Speaker 2: It's really good. Right after Alley, I reckon, Okay, this

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Speaker 4: A passion? My passion. I think I'm a very passionate

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Speaker 4: So that I felt intensely passionate about things. Oh that's cool,

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Speaker 3: I just love it.

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Speaker 4: like psychology. I guess that's lead to acting. But understanding people.

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Speaker 2: Like human behavior. Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Just fascinated by humans and what's not to be for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just mentioned reading, So do you have a

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Speaker 4: I love David Mitchell, who wrote Cloud Outless. Yeah, like

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Speaker 4: The Bone Clocks, Ghost written all those books. All of

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Speaker 4: At the moment I'm reading Aaron Daddy Roy's memoir just

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Speaker 4: a great author. But I've sort of intermittently worked at

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Speaker 3: I read a lot.

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Speaker 3: Is a bookshop. It is an independent bookshop.

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful little bookshop, nice Sydney on McClay Street.

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Speaker 1: If you go to Los Angeles, there's a really good

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Speaker 1: And then downtown is the last bookstore, which is like

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Speaker 3: I feel like one of those.

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Speaker 4: People who's like you go to a new place and

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, the ballet is for you, because there's like

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Speaker 3: It's like in New York the theater bookshop and.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a fair question to ask an actor, but

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Speaker 2: I can't have you on without asking you. Do you

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Speaker 4: Do I have a favorite movie? I've got I've got

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Speaker 2: I know you can give every actor is like I

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Speaker 4: Okay, Melancholia, last one trio, I just absolutely love it.

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Speaker 3: Probably Vertigo Hitchcock.

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Speaker 4: An one of those films that was really important to

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Speaker 3: And what am I going to say my third?

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Speaker 2: It's such a hard question.

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Speaker 3: It's hard.

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Speaker 2: The sort of film I would love to be in,

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Speaker 3: Do I have a favorite play or play?

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Speaker 4: The writing is so juicy, the characters are so meady.

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Speaker 3: So that was wonderful too.

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Speaker 1: I love as well, Like as an actor, that's a

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Speaker 4: So it's like I was working my way through the

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Speaker 4: New York Times one hundred Top Films of the twenty

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Speaker 4: And it's always like been something that I've kept in

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Speaker 1: Have you heard the Killian Murphy quote, because he's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how wonderful and get to see his work.

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Speaker 4: And when you're a fan of these incredible I can't

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Speaker 2: That's such a great That's such a great mentality to

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Speaker 4: We got into this because we were fans of these

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Speaker 3: Of I just love movies, I love plays.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: How good? Final question, It doesn't matter if you're repeated

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, retreating a little bit of ground

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Speaker 3: The job that we do.

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Speaker 4: You never know when that opportunity is going to come

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Speaker 4: That's that's the only reason to be an actor, because

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Speaker 3: Love doing it, that's why I do it.

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Speaker 4: It's fun for me to get with my actor friends

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Speaker 3: That's that's what we all like doing.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been fun to have you on. It's been

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Speaker 2: a joy to have you on this joy and I

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Speaker 2: got a fan in me. Thanks so much, and yeah,

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