Speaker 1: The title of your show is definitely a big attraction.
Speaker 2: Michelle the Witch of Moon's Lane and Moira Major.
Speaker 3: How of Witch Bitch.
Speaker 4: Hello, Witches, welcome to how To Witch Bitch. I was
Speaker 4: not gonna say hello, bitches, because that's not too nice.
Speaker 4: Michelle the Witch of Moon's Lane, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 4: Now today I'm super excited. We are joined by Lisa
Speaker 4: Headley from the UK, and we need she's going to
Speaker 4: be talking about many things, shadow work, hand analysis. She's
Speaker 4: got some absolutely fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And she also delves into a little bit Betters. Yes,
Speaker 4: this is gonna be fun, all right.
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Speaker 4: Now a couple of weeks ago, well, we were joined
Speaker 4: by Patro who had a reading and she gave us
Speaker 4: a bit of an update. Now, she was talking about
Speaker 4: wanting to get a community to get together, so she
Speaker 4: really wanted to share with us that she's started a
Speaker 4: mother's circle called Moon Mother's Collective, also joined a mediumship
Speaker 4: circle instead of practicing taro again. But it's always been
Speaker 4: a goal of mine to help other women, especially women
Speaker 4: in crisis. And hearing that reading back, as in the
Speaker 4: reading that you did for her, I think I may
Speaker 4: have been coming through to basically push her in the
Speaker 4: right direction.
Speaker 3: Brilliant, which is sensational.
Speaker 4: Also, other people don't know how they find us, but
Speaker 4: our vibe kicks them up the ass. That's Rebecca Johnson.
Speaker 4: You are so welcome. Also, we're still getting comments about
Speaker 4: the penis. I was literally listening to this at work
Speaker 4: and was trying so hard to audibly not laugh out
Speaker 4: loud in front of everyone, because you guys had me
Speaker 4: cracking up. Thank you, whimsy. Someone else that I have
Speaker 4: no idea why I'm here, but I'm here for it.
Speaker 4: Thank you algorithm. And yes, so a lot of it's
Speaker 4: been great.
Speaker 2: Life is turning to shit after she must have gone.
Speaker 3: And done it.
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, she's actually not just doesn't have her name there.
Speaker 4: Okay, So that's also feedback from when we were doing
Speaker 4: mirror and reflection work as well. Oh well, and oh
Speaker 4: my goodness, we've got quite a very long, unnecessary review
Speaker 4: that's actually the subject title, but five stars, so thank
Speaker 4: you very much. Recently came across your podcast up in.
Speaker 3: The north of Scotland. I'm glued.
Speaker 4: I listened to it in the car and generally feels
Speaker 4: like I'm on the phone to friends.
Speaker 3: It's such a good light vibe.
Speaker 4: And we might actually have to get in contact with
Speaker 4: Emma because she sounds like she's or she's taken a
Speaker 4: lot of time to her sister went to a medium
Speaker 4: and told her that my and I are witches. We
Speaker 4: all love at the time. Wow, okay, I think we
Speaker 4: also random. I do have a third nipple. Okay, definitely
Speaker 4: we're locking Emma in with the third nipple because you
Speaker 4: said that witches have three nipples, didn't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a mole, but hey, whatever works.
Speaker 3: I have them all in the middle of my back.
Speaker 2: You do, that's a third, but you also would have
Speaker 2: one here. We've already looked.
Speaker 3: We've already looked at that. You did you have a podcast?
Speaker 2: Your yours is in the back because you kind of went, nah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to, Oh, okay, then do it quick,
Speaker 2: and I got you on the back just as the
Speaker 2: way you were moving, just as you were going out
Speaker 2: through the ether.
Speaker 4: All right, Today, Lisa Hedley, psycho spiritual counselor, transformation advisor
Speaker 4: and hand analysis with over thirty nine years of spiritual practice.
Speaker 4: We're doing this via zoom. We're very, very excited to
Speaker 4: have a chat with her. Also talking about inner child
Speaker 4: trauma and handle analysis sounds absolutely fascinating. And she also,
Speaker 4: on top of all of that, speaks about shadow work,
Speaker 4: which we've discussed several times on this show, and that's
Speaker 4: what we're going to stop.
Speaker 1: Yes, I personally, I think shadow work is absolutely essential
Speaker 1: because if we're not confronting those unconscious parts of ourselves,
Speaker 1: we're not moving towards our awareness of wholeness, you know,
Speaker 1: we're not moving towards our fullest potential. I like to
Speaker 1: remind people that the shadow is not just those parts
Speaker 1: of ourselves that we have deemed, you know, as problematic,
Speaker 1: are difficult, or or ugly. The shadow is also full
Speaker 1: of a lot of beautiful content. It's basically anything that
Speaker 1: we've relegated to the unconscious because it was deemed unworthy.
Speaker 1: And those of people who usually deem it unworthy are
Speaker 1: not us, right, they are our family of origin. They
Speaker 1: are our teachers, they're perhaps our preacher whoever. They're the
Speaker 1: ones that tell us what is and isn't acceptable, and
Speaker 1: so we start to create those limitations, you know, inside
Speaker 1: ourselves and what we think is acceptable. So really, when
Speaker 1: you're starting to excavate all the shadow, you're bringing a
Speaker 1: lot of positive parts of yourself to the light. Right,
Speaker 1: it's really important to remember that. I like to remind
Speaker 1: people that lots of people are very creative. But because
Speaker 1: creativity in certain ways has not been has not necessarily
Speaker 1: been deemed positive or you know, lucrative, perhaps a lot
Speaker 1: of people will do things like become an attorney or
Speaker 1: an accountant because that's where they're going to make a living,
Speaker 1: when in fact they have a creative spirit and they
Speaker 1: have relegated their creativity to their shadow side. And so
Speaker 1: it's very important, I think, to get in touch with
Speaker 1: all of those contents, because then you really can become
Speaker 1: who you are authentically, right when you start to open
Speaker 1: up to what you have been hiding away, and first
Speaker 1: you have to give yourself permission to step away from
Speaker 1: all of that outside and doctrination that told you you
Speaker 1: weren't enough for those weren't good qualities or they're unacceptable,
Speaker 1: and then you have to really start to love that
Speaker 1: part of yourself. And how else do we get back
Speaker 1: to wholeness if we're not getting in touch with what
Speaker 1: we have, you know, we've hidden away. We have to.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's absolutely essential.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you can see Moyer's hand
Speaker 2: if she put it up, but could.
Speaker 3: Can you see her my hand? Yeah? Oh okay, oh.
Speaker 2: It's up there? Is it more like palm reading? Is
Speaker 2: that what you're doing?
Speaker 1: So hand analysis does have its origins in ancient palmistry,
Speaker 1: but it now has decades of neuroscientific and psychological research
Speaker 1: to back it up. We now know that there are
Speaker 1: more connections between the hands and the brain than any
Speaker 1: other part of the body, and the sensory cortex is
Speaker 1: sending signals to our hands constantly, so they become discernible.
Speaker 1: Mare is when you know what you're looking for. I
Speaker 1: don't actually know palmistry, so I know that there's some
Speaker 1: overlap there, but I'm not in the prophecy business. I'm
Speaker 1: in the patterns business, right, So with hand analysis, we
Speaker 1: use the entire hand. It's not just the palm. We
Speaker 1: use the fingerprints. We use the entire shape of the hand,
Speaker 1: the length of the fingers, the length of the falanges,
Speaker 1: the length of the palm. I mean, it takes into
Speaker 1: account the entirety of the hand. Yeah, the fingerprints. That's
Speaker 1: where we find our sol psychology in the fingerprints. The
Speaker 1: fingerprints are fully formed in utero by fifteen weeks, so
Speaker 1: before even born, we've already decided what our life purpose is,
Speaker 1: our life lessons and our life school. And then those
Speaker 1: do not change over the entire duration of our life.
Speaker 1: Whereas the rest of the hand is where we find
Speaker 1: the personality psychology, and that can change. That can change radically.
Speaker 1: If you change direction in your life, you can you
Speaker 1: can have all kinds of different changes take place in
Speaker 1: the rest of your hands, which either reinforce the soul
Speaker 1: psychology or deny it.
Speaker 3: Okay, so here is this is my hand.
Speaker 1: Look, you have a dragonfly tattoo.
Speaker 2: I do too, do you?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, pretty much, Yes, I have too. Actually
Speaker 4: I've got another one on my foot as well.
Speaker 3: That's so amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dragonfly is a is a beautiful representation of
Speaker 1: morpho metamorphosis.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: I have to be able to see the lines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be too hot, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not clear enough. But I would be very
Speaker 1: happy to look at your hands. If you guys were
Speaker 1: to send me photos, I would be happy to look
Speaker 1: at your hands and give you a bit of a reading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's it's really fun to know. I love this
Speaker 1: tool not only because it helps me see the shadow,
Speaker 1: but because it also helps me see the gift. And
Speaker 1: I love being able to simultaneously empower people's gifts while
Speaker 1: working through some of the more challenging aspects of their lives.
Speaker 1: They're starting to use. It's still an emerging field, right,
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of research that's underway. They're starting
Speaker 1: to use it in medicine to detect for things like disease,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how soon that will be accessible
Speaker 1: to you know, to the mainstream, but that information is
Speaker 1: really interesting. If we can get a hold of a
Speaker 1: hold of that, you know, if you know you have
Speaker 1: a marker for cancer, you could be alert.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, absolutely.
Speaker 1: The other thing that's really interesting is you can reverse
Speaker 1: engineer someone's face from the characteristics in their hands.
Speaker 3: How do you what do you mean.
Speaker 1: If we didn't know what your face looked like. We
Speaker 1: could take the characteristics of your hands and we could
Speaker 1: plug them in to a computer and it would it
Speaker 1: would bring your face up. Oh my god, I know
Speaker 1: it's mind blowing stuff.
Speaker 3: Now, wow, that's completely bulging.
Speaker 4: Now I'm looking at my hands very differently because I'm like,
Speaker 4: where's my dessert?
Speaker 1: Che And it's so funny because over the years I've
Speaker 1: had people they find out I'm a hand analyst, and
Speaker 1: some people just you know, shove their hand in my
Speaker 1: face like here, have a lot tell me, and other
Speaker 1: people just then they sit on their hands. They're like, nope, never,
Speaker 1: never going to show you anything. Right.
Speaker 3: They don't want because I don't want to be sane.
Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1: They're not willing.
Speaker 4: You've described yourself as a psycho spiritual counselor can you
Speaker 4: describe what that means.
Speaker 1: It means that while my work has aspects of clinical psychology,
Speaker 1: it also is spiritual in nature in that I'm very intuitive,
Speaker 1: and I don't believe that the good therapeutic work should
Speaker 1: be devoid of intuition. I feel like it's really important
Speaker 1: for us to not only as a practitioner, be guiding
Speaker 1: people back towards their truest self, but also helping them
Speaker 1: access that truest self so that they know how to
Speaker 1: trust their own wisdom. And clinical psychology. While I was
Speaker 1: interested in going in that direction, having spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time in therapy myself, I often felt like I
Speaker 1: was treading water, to be honest. As much as the
Speaker 1: therapy was helpful, it was years and years of therapy,
Speaker 1: and I thought, Okay, what are we missing here? Clinical
Speaker 1: psychology is book knowledge, right, They're applying various strategies from
Speaker 1: a mental perspective, and that will take you far, but
Speaker 1: it will only take you so far. At some point
Speaker 1: you have to start bringing a measure of body awareness
Speaker 1: into the process. And what is the mind, right, If
Speaker 1: it's not just brain, but it's also a measure of
Speaker 1: emotional intelligence. It's a measure of bodily awareness. And let's
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest. We are multi dimensional beings, right we
Speaker 1: have We have all kinds of perception that is beyond
Speaker 1: our senses, and trying to tap into that was really
Speaker 1: important to me. I wanted people to heal on all
Speaker 1: levels basically because I needed to heal on them.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, is that because I'm knowing
Speaker 4: and noticing child trauma, emotional frozen patterns, all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. You said that you spent many years in
Speaker 4: therapy as well, and I know a lot of people
Speaker 4: get into counseling and therapy as a profession if they
Speaker 4: have gone through trials themselves.
Speaker 3: So that sounds as though that's a very familiar story
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: It is. I had a decade of eating disorders as
Speaker 1: a child. I had various traumas that I had to heal,
Speaker 1: and obviously, therapy was the most readily accessible form of
Speaker 1: healing when I was a kid. I mean, I've been
Speaker 1: at this for a very long time, so back then,
Speaker 1: therapy was kind of your only option. But in my twenties,
Speaker 1: I took up yoga and I've been practicing now and
Speaker 1: I'm on my third decade, fourth decade practicing a long time.
Speaker 1: And when I started to really get into things like
Speaker 1: yoga and meditation, I started to see the value of
Speaker 1: opening up various healing modalities, and then I wanted that
Speaker 1: to inform my work. I did yoga teacher training with
Speaker 1: the intention of adding that into my therapeutic practice, and
Speaker 1: all of the systems that I studied be that astrology,
Speaker 1: the gene keys, the enneagram, the Meyers break system. I
Speaker 1: looked into a lot of personality assessment, and I arrived
Speaker 1: at hand analysis because it was the most concretely predictive
Speaker 1: system for expediting the healing process because it shows us
Speaker 1: our soul and personalities cologies. So for me, it really
Speaker 1: was a question of how do I heal myself? And
Speaker 1: how do I do that? Not just from a psychological perspective,
Speaker 1: but how do I do that from a holistic perspective?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Everything about me needs to be healed. And so I
Speaker 1: started to apply those frameworks to my work after I
Speaker 1: had done the work on myself, so I couldn't really
Speaker 1: pigeonhole myself into psychology because it felt really important to
Speaker 1: take into account all these other things that I knew
Speaker 1: to be true and I had learned along the way,
Speaker 1: and intuition being the most important, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Do you think that different personalities or different star signs
Speaker 2: handle trauma and things differently? And how the planets are
Speaker 2: with the we were talking about before, with the areas
Speaker 2: being coming at at one hundred miles an hour at
Speaker 2: the moment, especially with all those planets lined up in it.
Speaker 2: Do you feel that when you've been working with people,
Speaker 2: there are differently certain astrological signs that come in that
Speaker 2: will heal a lot quicker than others, and others just
Speaker 2: find it difficult.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that because I was watching
Speaker 1: I was watching something on YouTube the other day featuring
Speaker 1: Dolores Cannon. I don't know if you're familiar with her work,
Speaker 1: and she was talking about astrological signs and how old
Speaker 1: those souls are. Right, that certain signs are show signs
Speaker 1: of being significantly older souls than some of the other
Speaker 1: zodiac signs. I would say my own experience tells me that, yes,
Speaker 1: certain signs are going to be more compulsive, perhaps and
Speaker 1: impulsive and perhaps more self destructive than others. Yes, I
Speaker 1: think that's probably true. Although you know, I think each
Speaker 1: and every sign carries its own distinct flavor that I
Speaker 1: think is really important for each and everyone's journey. This
Speaker 1: is the thing that I like to say to my
Speaker 1: clients is that there are as many paths to awakening
Speaker 1: as there are people. Right, we each have our own journey.
Speaker 1: So for someone, let's say you mentioned the aris aspects.
Speaker 1: At the moment.
Speaker 3: You're an area.
Speaker 2: I'm an airy yeah, so I go at things at
Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour and I think.
Speaker 3: Really, no ship.
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry about miss Virgo. Yes, I'm a Virgo, so
Speaker 4: I we're very different.
Speaker 1: You are very different. Well, the areas is going to
Speaker 1: be more compulsive and they're going to have to work
Speaker 1: harder to to maintain a level of self self control.
Speaker 1: The Virgo, on the other hand, is very It's much
Speaker 1: more detail oriented and can be much more organized, and
Speaker 1: they they they like a plant.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm always running like which is the most unvirgo
Speaker 4: like quality. I think it's because I'm a people I'm
Speaker 4: a people pleaser as well, and I try to fit
Speaker 4: everything into a day and it just irritates the Jesus
Speaker 4: out of Michau because I'm always light.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to take into account the full breadth
Speaker 1: of your chart, right, it's rising sun moon. All of
Speaker 1: these things factor into a certain degree. I have a
Speaker 1: Virgo moon, so I'm very familiar with the Virgo. But
Speaker 1: I'm a double aquarian, so I'm also very you know,
Speaker 1: very much on that on that air and earth bandwidth
Speaker 1: where I'm there's a measure of trying to balance those things, right,
Speaker 1: whereas an Aria's lots of fire, they're ready to just go,
Speaker 1: go go. Yeah, it's there. It's just different kinds of energy,
Speaker 1: and I think it's helpful to have a sense of
Speaker 1: what you're working with. What's really fun in the hands
Speaker 1: is that I can see things like your earth elements,
Speaker 1: your fire, your water, all of those things are also
Speaker 1: in the hands. So I love the overlap. I love
Speaker 1: being able to see, you know, if you are perhaps
Speaker 1: there's a lot of air in your hands, then I
Speaker 1: can say, are you an air sign? And it's it's
Speaker 1: fun to see that reflected again and again. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: helps me understand how to navigate each and every client,
Speaker 1: right because they all have specific needs. If someone who's
Speaker 1: really fired, then I'm going to say, look, you're going
Speaker 1: to probably want to spend some time in nature trying
Speaker 1: to ground some of that energy and bring some harmony
Speaker 1: to I mean, we really ultimately want harmony within, and
Speaker 1: then we want our lives.
Speaker 2: To be Aquarius rising. So yeah, I'm always thinking.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, that's what most people say when they meet Michelle.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: No, it's really it's a I think it's a really
Speaker 1: beautiful domination. Because of course the piss's Moon is going
Speaker 1: to have a lot of depth, and that's going to
Speaker 1: be like heavy emotional depth. It's going to be really dreamy.
Speaker 1: It's also going to have a lot of vision that
Speaker 1: the rising Aquarius is going to be a humanitarian so
Speaker 1: you're going to be utilizing probably all that fire energy
Speaker 1: in service to humanitarian causes. That's it's a beautiful combination.
Speaker 3: I think it is. She is a beautiful combination.
Speaker 2: This one's Leo am I yeah, you're do you go
Speaker 2: with Leo Moon and the rising? I think?
Speaker 3: How do you know this?
Speaker 2: I looked you up?
Speaker 3: Oh my stalking? Oh great? Oh no, last year? Remember? Oh? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: she's got Leo. What does that mean?
Speaker 2: You're Leo Moon? So you're in You're a Virgo then,
Speaker 2: but I need to find out what you're rising?
Speaker 1: Is? Like we can google my son is a Leo Moon,
Speaker 1: a Virgo rising and Aquarius sun?
Speaker 2: Okay? Oh wow, you probably know what time were you born?
Speaker 3: Seven? I was in the morning.
Speaker 4: I don't actually know the real time, but it was
Speaker 4: the first of September nineteen seventy eight. I wish I
Speaker 4: had someone to ask, but unfortunately I can't. I can't ask.
Speaker 3: Well, look when I was, what do you mean you'll look?
Speaker 2: Well google rize it.
Speaker 3: We go, Oh my god, what anyway we can do?
Speaker 1: I use the Time Passages app. I find that one's
Speaker 1: are really The time Passages app is a really good
Speaker 1: source for astrology. You can add your own, you can
Speaker 1: add friends, you can care charts, and you can do
Speaker 1: transits and progressions a let.
Speaker 4: So we've managed to also get some right lashing and
Speaker 4: everything done. So you can see the lines of our
Speaker 4: hands and I do believe those images have come through
Speaker 4: to you and you're gonna do a bit of a
Speaker 4: hand analysis to us.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So Michelle is the nails and Mora is no nails.
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I going to know.
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: Then I saw the tattoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dragonfly tattoo. That's me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You both have leadership as part of your as part
Speaker 1: of your your purpose. Maia, you have a nurture heartline.
Speaker 1: Michelle you are more of a stoic heartline. Michelle, you
Speaker 1: have a traveling lifeline. Have you always been in Australia?
Speaker 2: No? Now, I was born in New Zealand, but I
Speaker 2: did travel a lot in my early twenties. I traveled
Speaker 2: with a backpack and that was bigger than me.
Speaker 3: One way to get those people who have.
Speaker 1: A traveling lifeline usually die in a different country than
Speaker 1: the one they were born in.
Speaker 4: Wow, right, so don't life No, I will.
Speaker 1: I mean what's interesting is that the further the traveling
Speaker 1: line dip drifts into the moon, the further you will
Speaker 1: be from where you started. So when you say you
Speaker 1: were born in New Zealand and you're in Australia, your
Speaker 1: traveling lifeline hasn't moved that far. Yeah, it has, it's there.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is my travel I have a traveling lifeline
Speaker 1: as well. I was born in Johannesburg.
Speaker 3: South Africa, Oh Wow.
Speaker 1: Subsequently emigrated to England first and then to the United States.
Speaker 1: And my traveling lifeline is you know, the South Africa
Speaker 1: is almost as far away as you can get from
Speaker 1: the States this Earth. So my traveling lifeline goes all
Speaker 1: the way into my moon sign Wow, into my moon mount.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you you are pretty guarded
Speaker 1: with your emotions, Michelle? Are you do you play your
Speaker 1: cards close to the vest?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah. The stoic will do that. They'll they will, you know,
Speaker 1: they take care of their emotions before they share it
Speaker 1: with everyone. They You know, you want to establish trust
Speaker 1: and be sure about rapport with someone and before you
Speaker 1: really share that whereas more you are. You are just
Speaker 1: a big sweetheart, aren't you. You just take care of everyone.
Speaker 3: Do Oh wow?
Speaker 1: See the people pleaser. You have what we call the
Speaker 1: Grin and Barrett line, which is basically like taking it
Speaker 1: knowing it now. Yeah, well, I mean it's a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing to be a nurturer, it really is. The problem is,
Speaker 1: you have to be very conscientious about attending to your
Speaker 1: own needs, right. The nurturer often has boundary issues. They
Speaker 1: need to figure out how to take care of themselves better.
Speaker 1: But you know, when I'm looking at your hands, you
Speaker 1: both have very generous venus mounts, which is the pleasure zone.
Speaker 1: It's the zone of sensuality. So there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of life force for both of
Speaker 1: you in that region of your hands, which tells me
Speaker 1: you enjoy life. Life's pleasures. You know, it's sex, it's music,
Speaker 1: it's fine and eating and.
Speaker 2: Fine all of these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you both are into that and you share that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's wonderful to have friends that you can
Speaker 1: really get into all the you know, be grounded in
Speaker 1: your body, enjoy life. It's part of being a human
Speaker 1: and having this experience.
Speaker 4: And I guess also with the two of us having
Speaker 4: heard that the stoic and the nurturer, you actually do
Speaker 4: pull me up a lot with the stuff that I do,
Speaker 4: where you're just.
Speaker 3: Like nap, that's just stupid.
Speaker 4: Now, that's just whatever, And that as a friendship is
Speaker 4: actually what I need because I don't have any boundaries.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'll help the kittens, I'll help the
Speaker 4: old woman in the in the chair, I'll help every
Speaker 4: member of my family, and then I'll diet a big
Speaker 4: old heat, whereas you're.
Speaker 2: Like nap, But then I do that for a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, You're.
Speaker 2: Always adopting animals that aren't mine.
Speaker 1: You both have good intuition. You have strong intuition. Moira
Speaker 1: is a bit more of a finisher in terms of
Speaker 1: getting things done. Nice.
Speaker 3: That's very funny.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is that Michelle, you need to be inspired.
Speaker 1: You need to be inspired to get started, and you
Speaker 1: need to be inspired to keep going, whereas More is
Speaker 1: like more of a she'll just dig in and get
Speaker 1: it done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I would.
Speaker 1: Suspect that the two of you are really fun together.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get the sense that you compliment each
Speaker 1: other well in your friendship. But yes, you both have
Speaker 1: leadership as part of your life purpose. I would need
Speaker 1: to see your other hands, your other Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got one hand from each of you. I'd need
Speaker 1: to see I'd need to see the other hands from
Speaker 1: both of you to be able to definitively tell you
Speaker 1: what your life purpose is.
Speaker 2: Anytime we're losing weight?
Speaker 3: What time?
Speaker 2: What timeline does it come on? Is it like around
Speaker 2: about now?
Speaker 4: Does a line get really big to start with and
Speaker 4: then gets a lot thinner along the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately, I wish I could predict that for you.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm really not in the prediction. I get
Speaker 1: a lot of that. So people will say to me,
Speaker 1: when am I going to find love?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I don't know palmistry, and I can't actually
Speaker 1: tell you, But I can tell you that when you're
Speaker 1: living your best life, you will find the things that
Speaker 1: you are looking for. Right when you are have stepped
Speaker 1: into the most authentic version of yourself and you have
Speaker 1: made yourself happy, you will get everything that you're after.
Speaker 1: It's all going to come towards you, but you have
Speaker 1: to trust that in terms of weight, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just.
Speaker 2: I haven't stepped into my authentic self. I really think
Speaker 2: that I I've missed the boat I should have been.
Speaker 2: I should have been like a goddess with grapes and
Speaker 2: stuff like and whine and.
Speaker 1: That you were clearly meant for another time exactly the
Speaker 1: goddess the matriarchal society where there was no artists worship.
Speaker 4: That's what you want, that's what you're craving that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: I see that I'd be rubbing class.
Speaker 2: We would need to lose weight because the actual real
Speaker 2: goddesses looks like us.
Speaker 3: Well that's what we've got.
Speaker 2: Big bazookas nice bottom and he likes people bringing your
Speaker 2: food and fine and worshiping her.
Speaker 4: Oh this sounds amazing. I know, Lisa. This has been
Speaker 4: absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1: But it's up to us, though, to bring that that
Speaker 1: spirit back, yes right now. Absolutely not to wish that
Speaker 1: we were living in a different time. I think that's
Speaker 1: what we're trying to The timelines would inform this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Lisa. How do people get in contact with you?
Speaker 4: This has been fun, it's been so good.
Speaker 1: I have a website Lisa Headley dot com, so that's
Speaker 1: the best place to find me, especially if you want
Speaker 1: to do a hand analysis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I also write a sub stack, so you can find
Speaker 1: me there. I dive into I dive into hand analysis there,
Speaker 1: but I also discuss a number of topics, my most
Speaker 1: recent essay being about the United States and it going
Speaker 1: through a dark night of the soul because it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really limit my topics. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: really important that we that we greet spirituality both from
Speaker 1: the personal level as well as the collective level, right
Speaker 1: because spirituality, as we are waking up, as we become
Speaker 1: more authentically ourselves, is moving us towards a direction of
Speaker 1: more community and collective understanding, where we are a part
Speaker 1: of helping everyone rise, everyone feel good, everyone us step
Speaker 1: into their authenticity.
Speaker 2: That's why a lot of people are saying a love
Speaker 2: of these mental health disorders are coming in is because
Speaker 2: we've lost our reverance with the land. Because back in
Speaker 2: the day we had a lot more community. The community
Speaker 2: was we used to come together for the different times,
Speaker 2: and we used to sit on the earth, and we
Speaker 2: used to do lots.
Speaker 4: Of communities and now more and more people to just disengage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took a village to raise the child, things
Speaker 2: like that which we don't have. So I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, bringing mother back, mother Earth back in and
Speaker 2: what sort of Mora and I are doing is sort
Speaker 2: of trying to bring people back together and looking at
Speaker 2: the old and looking at exactly what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: representing yourself and finding yourself and living your authentic life
Speaker 2: and community and reaching out to people and things like that.
Speaker 2: So thank you so.
Speaker 3: Much, amazing fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's back again.
Speaker 1: Thank you do the other hand, Yeah, ladies, send me,
Speaker 1: send me your hand stuff, send me your handstuff, and
Speaker 1: I will I will definitely get back to you with
Speaker 1: thank you details.
Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the podcast too.
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Speaker 3: We do well.
Speaker 2: More and more people are coming and finding us, even
Speaker 2: if it is by accident, they find us anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's fun. And you know the title of
Speaker 1: your show is definitely a big attraction, right. You know,
Speaker 1: it's playful, it's playful, and it's also informative. I think
Speaker 1: I think it's important to help people like I want
Speaker 1: to bring people into some of these systems that we
Speaker 1: have disregarded. You know, there's a lot of ancient wisdom
Speaker 1: that I think is starting to find its way more
Speaker 1: and more into the mainstream. And it's really really important.
Speaker 1: Now there's a lot that all of those indigenous cultures
Speaker 1: and cultures they have to offer us in terms of
Speaker 1: our own awakening. So yes, you to fut on you
Speaker 1: for what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Will run you too.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Lisa, take care. Absolutely wonderful to chat with you.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Take your ladies.
Speaker 4: Lisa was so great. We are going to are you
Speaker 4: ready to check the starts?
Speaker 3: You did that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Airies?
Speaker 2: This week nudges you to slow down just enough to
Speaker 2: think before acting. You'll still feel that usual drive, but
Speaker 2: a bit of patience could turn a good opportunity into
Speaker 2: a great one, especially with work or your finances. Taurus,
Speaker 2: comfort and stability are calling your name, but something for
Speaker 2: someone may push you slightly out of your routine. Don't
Speaker 2: resist it too hard. There's growth hiding in the unfamiliar Gemini.
Speaker 2: Communication is your superpower this week. Conversations flow easily and
Speaker 2: you find yourself resolving something that has been lingering for
Speaker 2: a while. Just be mindful not to over commit. Socially,
Speaker 2: Cancer emotions run a little deeper than usual, but in
Speaker 2: a projective, productive way. It's a good time to reconnect
Speaker 2: with someone important or to focus on home and personal matters. Leo,
Speaker 2: you're feeling more energized and visible. This is a great
Speaker 2: week to take initiative or step into a leadership role.
Speaker 2: But remember not everything needs to be a performance Virgo.
Speaker 2: Details matter, but don't get lost in them. You may
Speaker 2: feel the urge to organize everything around you, just make
Speaker 2: sure you're not avoiding a bigger decision in the process. Libra.
Speaker 2: Balance is a theme as always, but this week you
Speaker 2: might need to choose a side rather than keep the peace.
Speaker 2: Trust your instincts. You're sharper than usual.
Speaker 3: Scorpio.
Speaker 2: There's a strong pull towards introspective.
Speaker 3: Did I fuck it?
Speaker 2: Nearly?
Speaker 3: Did it?
Speaker 2: And I hit it right on Scorpio because I was
Speaker 2: thinking about you, because I was thinking about your scorpion.
Speaker 2: Fucking that Scorpio. There's a strong pull towards looking inward.
Speaker 2: You might uncover some about yourself or a situation that
Speaker 2: changes your perspective. Keep things private until you're shore Sagittarius.
Speaker 2: Adventure doesn't have to be a big this week. It
Speaker 2: could be simple as trying something new locally. Stay open
Speaker 2: to spontaneous plans that could lead to meaningful connections. Capricorn,
Speaker 2: work and stability takes center stage, but you're in a
Speaker 2: good position to make progress. Just don't forget to acknowledge
Speaker 2: how far you've already come. Aquarius. Your ideas are flowing
Speaker 2: and others are more receptive than usual. It's a great
Speaker 2: time to share your thoughts, but be ready to back
Speaker 2: them up with action prices. Creativity is heightened. You may
Speaker 2: feel inspired than usual, so lean into an artistic or
Speaker 2: reflective activities. Just stay grounded when making practical decisions that
Speaker 2: is your stars.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Well done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you almost got there. Really, that's good
Speaker 4: that sit for today. Thank you for joining us. It
Speaker 4: was a wonderful episode. Than to Lisa Headley as well,
Speaker 4: it's brilliant. Be sure to share the podcast with your friends.
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Speaker 4: That's great and we look forward to chatting with you
Speaker 4: next time.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michelle, Bye, Don. Good work Podcasts.