WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: The most unhinged reasons you dumped someone 0:00:10.379 --> 0:00:14.219 I heard podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen 0:00:14.259 --> 0:00:20.499 live on the Free. iHeart app A good pickup with 0:00:20.579 --> 0:00:23.018 Britt Hockley and Laura ben Bady. 0:00:23.139 --> 0:00:26.618 Your work, our windows done. That's my world. 0:00:26.659 --> 0:00:29.219 Reason the dust, only good fabs. 0:00:28.939 --> 0:00:33.259 Are all down. I don't much now, but yeah, I 0:00:33.419 --> 0:00:35.659 know I'll big get and what I want. 0:00:35.899 --> 0:00:38.818 It don't matter where does This is the pickup? 0:00:39.219 --> 0:00:41.379 Happy hum day everyone? It is the pick up with 0:00:41.419 --> 0:00:43.579 Britt Hockey and Laura brn Hey. 0:00:44.139 --> 0:00:46.739 I don't think this is accurate. Producer Grace just before 0:00:46.739 --> 0:00:47.859 we started, I'm actually quiet. 0:00:47.899 --> 0:00:48.699 You should be offended. 0:00:49.339 --> 0:00:50.539 I'm actually really offended. 0:00:50.739 --> 0:00:52.219 Actually, the more I think about it. 0:00:53.019 --> 0:00:55.699 We were just talking before the break and producer Grace 0:00:55.699 --> 0:00:56.139 pops up. 0:00:56.219 --> 0:00:58.019 I said to her, do you hate us as a joke? 0:00:58.179 --> 0:01:00.139 No, it's because you were doing I can't remember exactly. 0:00:59.819 --> 0:01:00.339 What you were doing. 0:01:00.699 --> 0:01:01.499 You were being annoying. 0:01:01.579 --> 0:01:03.979 And then you said, I think producer Grace hates us. 0:01:04.059 --> 0:01:05.539 Sorry Grace, and we know you love us. 0:01:05.619 --> 0:01:07.619 Grace came back and said something that shook me to 0:01:07.699 --> 0:01:08.098 my call. 0:01:08.699 --> 0:01:12.619 She says, I think everybody hates somebody two percent, so 0:01:12.658 --> 0:01:13.298 that's normal. 0:01:13.419 --> 0:01:16.338 No, she said, I think everybody hates everybody two percent. 0:01:16.419 --> 0:01:19.139 Grace honestly believes in her soul. You can take a 0:01:19.179 --> 0:01:20.179 second to defend yourself. 0:01:20.378 --> 0:01:22.538 I stand by this. I'm not going to say I 0:01:22.539 --> 0:01:24.699 didn't mean this. So you hate me two percent? No, 0:01:24.779 --> 0:01:26.818 I just hate is a strong word. 0:01:26.979 --> 0:01:30.819 You use it, but I know it's a part of 0:01:30.859 --> 0:01:32.139 life that you get annoyed by people. 0:01:32.179 --> 0:01:34.339 Sometimes I annoy it is love people. 0:01:34.378 --> 0:01:37.779 But you go, oh gosh, that's annoying Grace. No, genuinely, 0:01:37.818 --> 0:01:40.539 she stands by it that every single person she's ever 0:01:40.539 --> 0:01:43.178 come in contact with she hates them by minimum two percent. 0:01:43.259 --> 0:01:44.859 I don't think there's a single person in this. 0:01:44.859 --> 0:01:47.979 World that you love everything about. Hang on, let's just 0:01:48.379 --> 0:01:50.779 let's just because they annoying me. But I don't they 0:01:50.779 --> 0:01:53.059 don't have two I don't have two percent hate for them. No, 0:01:53.419 --> 0:01:54.219 that's the incorrect. 0:01:54.379 --> 0:01:55.139 Let's just get this. 0:01:55.179 --> 0:01:59.299 Clear silence on set. Do you hate us two percent? 0:01:59.779 --> 0:02:01.499 It's yes or no? 0:02:01.499 --> 0:02:07.019 No, Well then you're telling me sometimes, Laura, we talk 0:02:07.099 --> 0:02:10.179 a lot about dating and reliefationships here and online dating 0:02:10.219 --> 0:02:11.779 and how crazy the world can be. 0:02:12.459 --> 0:02:14.258 And I've always felt really sorry for a lot of 0:02:14.299 --> 0:02:14.779 people that. 0:02:14.739 --> 0:02:17.419 Are single and trying, like really hard to find the 0:02:17.459 --> 0:02:20.179 love of their life, their penguin, their lobster, whatever you 0:02:20.179 --> 0:02:20.699 want to call it. 0:02:21.258 --> 0:02:24.659 But there's a lobster. Yeah, lobsters mate for life as well, 0:02:24.739 --> 0:02:25.178 do they? 0:02:25.538 --> 0:02:26.219 Yeah, a lobster. 0:02:26.619 --> 0:02:28.299 I take it back for laughing. I'm so sorry to 0:02:28.339 --> 0:02:30.219 not laugh at me such important facts. 0:02:30.258 --> 0:02:31.459 I had a lot of animal facts. 0:02:31.499 --> 0:02:34.779 A right, okay, whatever, We'll talk animal facts another day. 0:02:35.019 --> 0:02:37.419 So there's a thread online that's made me realize why. 0:02:37.379 --> 0:02:39.139 So many people might be single. 0:02:39.379 --> 0:02:44.019 People are posting the pettiest reasons that they dumped somebody, 0:02:44.258 --> 0:02:46.738 Like I mean, I think about the reasons I've broken 0:02:46.779 --> 0:02:48.499 up with cin past I once broke up with someone 0:02:48.538 --> 0:02:48.939 because they. 0:02:48.899 --> 0:02:49.578 Farted too much. 0:02:49.659 --> 0:02:52.099 Like, No, I feel like petty reasons though, it's like 0:02:52.299 --> 0:02:54.179 that's the thing that you can attach something to, Like 0:02:54.219 --> 0:02:56.418 you didn't get a vibe there was like obviously something 0:02:56.499 --> 0:02:57.419 was missing already. 0:02:57.739 --> 0:02:59.779 No, the fights were so bad. And on top of that, 0:02:59.779 --> 0:03:00.619 he had a single bed. 0:03:01.499 --> 0:03:03.659 I realized we could have bought a bigger bed, but 0:03:03.698 --> 0:03:04.659 I just like, it wasn't there. 0:03:05.059 --> 0:03:07.779 I mean, yeah, it is a single dude with a 0:03:07.819 --> 0:03:08.338 single bed. 0:03:08.579 --> 0:03:10.779 He wasn't single. We were dating. That was the whole point. 0:03:10.859 --> 0:03:11.298 I stopped you. 0:03:11.418 --> 0:03:13.259 I once dated a guy who only had the mattress 0:03:13.258 --> 0:03:14.819 on the floor and no top sheet. I think that's 0:03:14.819 --> 0:03:15.939 way worse than a single bed. 0:03:15.978 --> 0:03:17.579 Okay, no, we think that's bad. 0:03:17.739 --> 0:03:19.539 Have her listened to some of the reasons people are 0:03:19.579 --> 0:03:23.219 dumping their partners. One person says she dumped her partner 0:03:23.219 --> 0:03:26.059 because he failed to wish her a safe flight when 0:03:26.099 --> 0:03:27.419 she was going away for the weekend. 0:03:27.579 --> 0:03:29.339 Well, I mean something could have happened. I mean he 0:03:29.779 --> 0:03:30.619 didn't care about her. 0:03:31.059 --> 0:03:33.339 Okay, I cut him off when he didn't make sure 0:03:33.379 --> 0:03:35.739 I got home safe after our date because my future 0:03:35.819 --> 0:03:38.339 husband would never Also. 0:03:38.099 --> 0:03:40.139 These things just pertain to a bit of chivalry, right, 0:03:40.259 --> 0:03:41.819 Like they just want someone who's got a bit more 0:03:41.859 --> 0:03:43.699 chivalry to them, cares about them, thinks about them. 0:03:43.739 --> 0:03:45.539 Well, we put it out to you guys as well. 0:03:45.579 --> 0:03:47.299 We wanted to get some people to write in. But 0:03:47.379 --> 0:03:50.219 some of them are Like one person said, he flipped 0:03:50.259 --> 0:03:52.859 the steak too many times when cooking it, like kept 0:03:52.899 --> 0:03:54.619 slipping it over every thirty seconds. 0:03:54.659 --> 0:03:56.339 I kind of get this one. He made himself a 0:03:56.379 --> 0:03:58.419 coffee in his kitchen right in front of me and 0:03:58.499 --> 0:04:01.139 didn't make me one or even offer I think that 0:04:01.139 --> 0:04:04.058 that is like I kind of get that it's just inconsiderate. 0:04:04.659 --> 0:04:07.859 I listened to this. No, he was waving to me 0:04:07.939 --> 0:04:08.939 outside the shops. 0:04:08.979 --> 0:04:11.339 Then he turned away and rollerbladed away from me. 0:04:13.939 --> 0:04:15.779 That is funny. I think there's something. 0:04:15.539 --> 0:04:17.699 I don't think I can date someone that's like dropping 0:04:17.699 --> 0:04:19.139 me at the store on rollerblades. 0:04:19.779 --> 0:04:21.899 I got one. He wrote every sentence on a new 0:04:21.979 --> 0:04:24.659 line within a text message. It looked like a poem 0:04:24.699 --> 0:04:27.339 and it gave me the ick. Also, do you remember 0:04:27.339 --> 0:04:28.699 back in the day when you used to pay like 0:04:28.779 --> 0:04:31.619 multiple text message, Like every x amount of characters was 0:04:31.659 --> 0:04:33.339 like a new text message. You get charged for it. 0:04:33.499 --> 0:04:37.019 Yeah, okay, he kept writing hay hy instead of hating text. 0:04:37.259 --> 0:04:39.819 I mean, guys, I think you've been a little bit 0:04:39.859 --> 0:04:40.499 fussy here. 0:04:40.579 --> 0:04:43.339 Like I don't understand when people will write off dating 0:04:43.379 --> 0:04:45.659 someone because of like bad grammar or something like that. 0:04:45.659 --> 0:04:47.339 I understand that we kind of can have like a 0:04:47.379 --> 0:04:50.059 bit of a an elitist status when it comes to 0:04:50.179 --> 0:04:53.099 like how people write text messages or they communicate, or 0:04:53.099 --> 0:04:55.738 people that use too much abbreviations. But all that stuff 0:04:55.739 --> 0:04:58.099 can be changed. You can, you know, you can kind 0:04:58.099 --> 0:04:59.739 of improve. 0:04:59.699 --> 0:05:01.699 For give them a dictionary you can change. Then you 0:05:01.699 --> 0:05:05.019 can change a person paid. We have Kaylor on the line. Kayler, 0:05:05.379 --> 0:05:07.139 did you dump someone for a petty reason? 0:05:08.059 --> 0:05:12.579 I did. Dental hygiene is paramount to me, and I 0:05:12.739 --> 0:05:15.699 noticed that he had really bad build up of plaque 0:05:15.699 --> 0:05:18.539 on his bottom teeth, and it was an instant. No, 0:05:18.619 --> 0:05:20.739 I can't sold our football date that night, and I 0:05:20.779 --> 0:05:22.859 said to him the next day, I'm. 0:05:22.659 --> 0:05:27.099 Out, okay. I don't think it's petty's. I think, yeah, 0:05:27.099 --> 0:05:29.179 you're safeguarding your future because you would have had to 0:05:29.179 --> 0:05:31.579 have made out with that mouth. That's just that's just. 0:05:33.419 --> 0:05:34.699 I think thinking is with. 0:05:34.859 --> 0:05:35.699 The rule around this. 0:05:35.779 --> 0:05:37.739 He's like, if you can see the plaque from a distance, 0:05:37.739 --> 0:05:38.339 it's too much. 0:05:39.219 --> 0:05:40.219 Oh yeah, exactly. 0:05:40.499 --> 0:05:42.819 No, I'm actually I'm okay with that one. I won 0:05:42.939 --> 0:05:44.739 some didn't go out with a guy again because he 0:05:44.939 --> 0:05:47.419 had very, very clammy hands. I was just remembering it. 0:05:47.659 --> 0:05:49.379 We were walking down the main street and he held 0:05:49.419 --> 0:05:51.699 my hand and I was like, wow, that's very wet hand. 0:05:51.739 --> 0:05:53.699 And then it was like hours later and he held 0:05:53.699 --> 0:05:54.939 my hand again and I was like, oh my god, 0:05:54.939 --> 0:05:57.579 his hand is so wet. He's just clammy, and I just, yeah, 0:05:57.619 --> 0:05:58.219 it was too much. 0:05:58.259 --> 0:05:58.779 It might have been. 0:05:58.739 --> 0:06:00.859 Nervous your beauty might have blown away so much that 0:06:00.899 --> 0:06:01.459 he was so nice. 0:06:01.499 --> 0:06:02.859 Hey, we got gen on the line, Jen. 0:06:02.899 --> 0:06:05.019 Did you dump someone for a stupid reason? 0:06:06.259 --> 0:06:11.339 Yes? What he decided that to impress me and wants 0:06:11.339 --> 0:06:15.779 to cook eggs for breakfast and ye, and he had 0:06:15.819 --> 0:06:19.459 a frying pan, a nonstick frying pan, and pretty much 0:06:19.459 --> 0:06:23.579 half of it was filled with oil, and when he 0:06:23.619 --> 0:06:26.059 put the egg in, it was swimming in oil, and 0:06:26.099 --> 0:06:27.299 I thought that was it. 0:06:27.539 --> 0:06:29.539 So he was deep frying his fried egg and you 0:06:29.619 --> 0:06:31.819 had a yeah, okay, look, you can also tell him 0:06:31.819 --> 0:06:32.619 just to use less oil. 0:06:33.179 --> 0:06:35.219 Hang on, just to clarify, was it the fact that 0:06:35.259 --> 0:06:37.979 he used oil non stick pan or was the fact 0:06:37.979 --> 0:06:39.379 that he used oil because it's unhealthy? 0:06:40.219 --> 0:06:45.419 I think both, And I think it was he was 0:06:45.459 --> 0:06:48.219 a bit confused because he thought we were going well. 0:06:48.259 --> 0:06:50.299 But you know, in his defense, I think it was 0:06:50.619 --> 0:06:53.499 just a rebound guy and I just needed anything to you. 0:06:53.899 --> 0:06:56.059 This is what I think. I agree. I'm like, if 0:06:56.059 --> 0:06:58.139 you're finding reasons out of that petty to break out 0:06:58.139 --> 0:06:59.899 with someone, you know you're not that into it. 0:07:00.139 --> 0:07:02.099 Of course, he could possibly be thought was going well, 0:07:02.099 --> 0:07:03.939 he took your way and he's cooking your breakfast and 0:07:03.979 --> 0:07:05.139 you're like, nah, yeah. 0:07:05.019 --> 0:07:07.659 Yeah, yeah, thank you. 0:07:07.779 --> 0:07:09.859 No, I stick by that. I reckon that people are 0:07:09.899 --> 0:07:11.619 just looking for an easy out. Dating is hard enough. 0:07:11.619 --> 0:07:13.259 You're not ruling someone out because they use a bit 0:07:13.299 --> 0:07:15.179 too much oil in a pan. Now the pluck for me, 0:07:15.259 --> 0:07:18.819 I'm out there. Yeah yeah, no, I agree. Now, Britt, 0:07:18.819 --> 0:07:21.939 you might remember a few weeks back, we were speaking 0:07:22.099 --> 0:07:25.539 about there's kind of been this real change and shift 0:07:25.579 --> 0:07:29.139 in perceptions around letting your kids sleep over at people's houses. 0:07:29.179 --> 0:07:32.419 And there's a debate that's been happening online as to whether, firstly, 0:07:32.459 --> 0:07:34.819 what is the right age, and as to whether it's 0:07:34.859 --> 0:07:38.059 the right thing for your kids' safety to let them 0:07:38.179 --> 0:07:41.179 sleep over at friends' houses. And it's an interesting one 0:07:41.179 --> 0:07:43.659 because we talked about it, it blew up on socials. 0:07:44.339 --> 0:07:46.259 I don't know how I feel about it as a 0:07:46.339 --> 0:07:49.099 mum to two little girls, because I have seen some 0:07:49.259 --> 0:07:53.179 truly harrowing stories that have been shared on social media 0:07:53.259 --> 0:07:56.099 about horrible things that have happened on sleepovers. But I 0:07:56.179 --> 0:07:58.459 also know that it's kind of like, I write a 0:07:58.499 --> 0:08:00.739 passage for kids, and we all did it as kids, 0:08:00.779 --> 0:08:02.779 and it's some of the best memories. Even though you 0:08:02.819 --> 0:08:05.299 come back tired and no one slept, and like you know, 0:08:05.859 --> 0:08:06.899 also has a downside. 0:08:06.979 --> 0:08:08.419 You know what, I the only thing I'll quickly had 0:08:08.419 --> 0:08:11.019 to before because I know it's serious. But my best 0:08:11.059 --> 0:08:13.179 friend reminded me on the weekend. We've been best friends 0:08:13.179 --> 0:08:14.819 for thirty years and we used to say each other's 0:08:14.819 --> 0:08:16.899 house all the time. She's like, remember how every time 0:08:16.939 --> 0:08:18.859 we'd have a sleepover, you'd only come if you liked 0:08:18.859 --> 0:08:19.699 what we had for dinner. 0:08:19.739 --> 0:08:22.219 Like I used to say, are you reading? 0:08:22.459 --> 0:08:23.859 She's like, want to save tonight? And I was like, 0:08:24.059 --> 0:08:24.699 what's for dinner? 0:08:24.739 --> 0:08:25.219 I was like eight? 0:08:25.379 --> 0:08:27.139 She told me if I did like it, I wouldn't go. 0:08:27.659 --> 0:08:29.619 I like that you had strong boundaries even as an 0:08:29.659 --> 0:08:31.299 eight year old, did I knew what I wanted? 0:08:31.339 --> 0:08:31.939 Well, look, it. 0:08:31.899 --> 0:08:34.619 Really did blow up on socials, so many people were 0:08:34.619 --> 0:08:37.739 discussing the fore and against it. There's a lot of 0:08:37.859 --> 0:08:39.739 families who are kind of taking the rout now of 0:08:39.779 --> 0:08:42.379 not letting their kids go to sleepovers. But then there's 0:08:42.379 --> 0:08:44.539 also people who think that maybe we're wrapping our kids 0:08:44.539 --> 0:08:46.939 too much. In Cotton boll Someone who did slide into 0:08:46.939 --> 0:08:50.539 our DMS is Genevieve Mua now jen Is. She's an 0:08:50.539 --> 0:08:54.979 Obstretix social worker, and she also has the business connected parenting, 0:08:55.499 --> 0:08:58.539 and it was really nice to chat to someone who 0:08:58.579 --> 0:09:00.619 actually has insight into this. Not only does she have 0:09:00.699 --> 0:09:02.939 four boys herself, but she's helped a lot of parents 0:09:02.939 --> 0:09:04.939 across the country manage what is a great way of 0:09:04.979 --> 0:09:07.979 finding a middle ground in this, Jen, welcome to the show. 0:09:08.619 --> 0:09:09.779 Thank you so much for having me. 0:09:09.859 --> 0:09:13.219 Guys, Jen, I'm assuming the middle ground isn't asking what 0:09:13.219 --> 0:09:14.019 they've got for dinner. 0:09:15.779 --> 0:09:18.659 I love that though. That is brilliant. I'm asking that next. 0:09:18.659 --> 0:09:20.499 So I get asked on the sleepover for sure? 0:09:20.779 --> 0:09:23.499 Do you think that it's something that parents should be 0:09:23.539 --> 0:09:26.458 particularly concerned about or do you feel as though that 0:09:26.579 --> 0:09:29.179 maybe there has been I guess a bit of fear 0:09:29.259 --> 0:09:31.859 mungering happening online and on social media at the moment 0:09:31.859 --> 0:09:33.379 around this whole sleepover debate. 0:09:34.459 --> 0:09:36.459 I think it's hard to be a parent in general 0:09:36.579 --> 0:09:38.819 these days. One of the things that I think is 0:09:38.859 --> 0:09:41.379 a good thing, right is there's been a massive social 0:09:41.459 --> 0:09:44.139 change in our understanding of what the risk to kids 0:09:44.179 --> 0:09:47.179 are and we now know that when it comes to 0:09:47.179 --> 0:09:49.259 those risks or when things happen to kids that we 0:09:49.259 --> 0:09:51.899 would like to protect them from ninety percent of the 0:09:51.939 --> 0:09:54.619 time that happens at the hands of someone we know 0:09:54.699 --> 0:09:57.459 and trust. Now, that's why the sleepover thing has become 0:09:57.459 --> 0:10:00.579 an issue. Now think back to the old days where 0:10:00.619 --> 0:10:03.739 we thought the risk was strangers totally and that's what 0:10:03.779 --> 0:10:05.499 we want kids about, and we now. 0:10:05.339 --> 0:10:06.939 Know how we had that wrong. 0:10:07.339 --> 0:10:09.859 So I love that p have access to the right 0:10:09.939 --> 0:10:13.299 information now about how to protect their kids. You know, 0:10:13.339 --> 0:10:14.619 we could say that's. 0:10:14.259 --> 0:10:15.739 No sleepovers ever, but we let. 0:10:15.579 --> 0:10:19.339 Our kids go online where so many similar tricky things 0:10:19.339 --> 0:10:22.218 can happen online. Right, So what we really want to 0:10:22.259 --> 0:10:25.019 do is start to have a sense of, well, who 0:10:25.299 --> 0:10:25.779 is my. 0:10:25.939 --> 0:10:28.699 Kid, where are they going? So how well do I 0:10:28.779 --> 0:10:29.499 know that family? 0:10:30.339 --> 0:10:32.699 In terms of my kids, I'm looking. 0:10:32.419 --> 0:10:35.059 For certain levels of skill. Is my child at. 0:10:34.979 --> 0:10:37.739 An age where they absolutely know they could come to 0:10:37.779 --> 0:10:40.499 me if they felt uncomfortable, they could ask to go home, 0:10:41.019 --> 0:10:44.139 could they communicate that if they needed to. If my 0:10:44.219 --> 0:10:46.459 child has those skills, if I have someone in my 0:10:46.539 --> 0:10:48.699 life where I really trust and I've known them. 0:10:48.539 --> 0:10:50.659 For a while, then that's a really. 0:10:50.459 --> 0:10:52.979 Different thing than if they don't have those skills, and 0:10:53.059 --> 0:10:54.619 I want to kind of acknowledge they'd. 0:10:54.459 --> 0:10:56.338 Be single parents that do not have an. 0:10:56.299 --> 0:10:59.219 Option if they're doing shipwork, then to have sometimes the 0:10:59.299 --> 0:11:01.859 village step in and support them. We might have great 0:11:01.899 --> 0:11:06.379 relatives and grandparents, we might have really close family friends that. 0:11:06.299 --> 0:11:08.619 We've known and we intimately know really well. 0:11:08.819 --> 0:11:12.019 So I think it's also about every situation is different. 0:11:12.419 --> 0:11:14.899 But the final thing that we can all do from 0:11:14.899 --> 0:11:19.339 a really young age, and that is really talk openly 0:11:19.419 --> 0:11:22.099 and honestly to your kids about a couple of key things. 0:11:22.379 --> 0:11:25.539 One is you know the normal names. 0:11:25.299 --> 0:11:27.459 Of body parts, and kind of making sure we have 0:11:27.539 --> 0:11:29.859 open and honest conversations about those things. 0:11:30.259 --> 0:11:31.619 Teaching our kids things. 0:11:31.379 --> 0:11:33.219 Like you don't have to hug your uncle if you 0:11:33.219 --> 0:11:34.659 don't want to, you can give them a high five. 0:11:34.939 --> 0:11:37.219 So that's body autonomy and having a sense of that 0:11:37.339 --> 0:11:40.419 stuff from a really young age. And the final thing, 0:11:40.419 --> 0:11:43.338 and I think this matters more than anything else, there 0:11:43.379 --> 0:11:44.339 is nothing you could. 0:11:44.179 --> 0:11:46.179 Ever do or say that would make me love you less. 0:11:46.219 --> 0:11:49.939 There's nothing you can't tell me I will always believe you. 0:11:50.219 --> 0:11:52.699 And that one you have to keep saying from the 0:11:52.739 --> 0:11:56.299 beginning all the way through. You know, at sixteen we're 0:11:56.339 --> 0:11:59.459 still saying the same thing. You're going out tonight. There 0:11:59.539 --> 0:12:02.219 is nothing that could happen or that you could do 0:12:02.779 --> 0:12:04.859 where you can't call me and I wouldn't be there 0:12:04.899 --> 0:12:06.019 on your side to help you. 0:12:06.139 --> 0:12:08.339 Jen, out of curiosity, how old are your kids when 0:12:08.379 --> 0:12:10.019 you let them sleep over at people's houses? 0:12:10.859 --> 0:12:15.219 So look really different ages depending on the child. But 0:12:15.939 --> 0:12:18.099 like I think, if we were to say like a 0:12:18.259 --> 0:12:22.219 good age in general, I think it's probably somewhere upwards 0:12:22.219 --> 0:12:26.219 of maybe eight ish. I know there's been some guidelines 0:12:26.219 --> 0:12:28.779 put out by the government where they're saying from about eleven. 0:12:29.419 --> 0:12:34.259 I think that's quite old myself, because most kids will 0:12:34.259 --> 0:12:35.619 go on their first school camp. 0:12:35.459 --> 0:12:36.219 At around eleven. 0:12:36.419 --> 0:12:37.899 Yeah, I mean you don't think about that too. I 0:12:37.939 --> 0:12:40.699 remember going on the school camp lucky. My mum never 0:12:40.699 --> 0:12:42.899 really let us stay at people's houses, but they always 0:12:42.899 --> 0:12:44.539 stay to ours, so I was kind of used to 0:12:44.579 --> 0:12:48.539 the sleepover environment. Oh got ours everywhere I did out. 0:12:48.899 --> 0:12:51.539 I didn't know your mum also had four kids, and 0:12:51.539 --> 0:12:52.819 she was like, just get one of them out of 0:12:52.819 --> 0:12:53.099 the house. 0:12:53.139 --> 0:12:55.059 That we kids, and they were all working. They were 0:12:55.059 --> 0:12:57.899 like find a friend today somewhere else. 0:12:58.259 --> 0:13:00.379 Thanking so much, Jen, thanks for joining the show. 0:13:01.099 --> 0:13:02.299 Absolute pleasure. Guys. 0:13:03.939 --> 0:13:06.739 There is an etiquette when it comes to Facebook marketplace right, 0:13:06.779 --> 0:13:09.699 Like it's kind of an unspoken edite about how you 0:13:09.739 --> 0:13:11.779 interact with the buyer and the seller and what you 0:13:11.819 --> 0:13:13.219 do when you've got to pick the thing up from 0:13:13.259 --> 0:13:15.979 their house and X y Z, Like I think most 0:13:15.979 --> 0:13:18.419 people know how to be when it comes to me 0:13:18.739 --> 0:13:19.219 like a place. 0:13:19.219 --> 0:13:22.019 It's pretty annoying though, like how many conversations you have 0:13:22.059 --> 0:13:23.339 about how much something is? 0:13:23.659 --> 0:13:25.219 Can you do a better price? You talk to them 0:13:25.259 --> 0:13:26.939 for like where are you when's a good time? 0:13:26.939 --> 0:13:28.419 You talked to them for like three days about picking 0:13:28.459 --> 0:13:30.499 up saying for twenty bucks and then they're like not and. 0:13:30.499 --> 0:13:32.579 Then then they go stray yeah, and you're like. 0:13:32.499 --> 0:13:33.779 What just wasting my life? 0:13:34.019 --> 0:13:36.619 We were talking about funny experiences that we'd had off 0:13:36.659 --> 0:13:38.339 the back of it, because everyone's had like a bit 0:13:38.379 --> 0:13:40.699 of a cooked experience if you've used it enough times. 0:13:40.899 --> 0:13:43.179 I had something happened recently where I was. I wasn't 0:13:43.219 --> 0:13:45.179 even selling it. I was giving away a coffee table. 0:13:45.219 --> 0:13:46.899 I was like, just someone come and take this coffee 0:13:46.899 --> 0:13:49.819 table off my hands. And this man came into my house. 0:13:50.259 --> 0:13:52.539 I was there with the kids, Matt wasn't home. He 0:13:52.619 --> 0:13:56.179 comes into the house. Forty five minutes later he is 0:13:56.259 --> 0:13:59.339 still in my house having a chat. Lovely English guy. 0:13:59.379 --> 0:14:01.699 He's moving to Australia. Just give me his life story. 0:14:01.779 --> 0:14:03.459 Maybe he's trying to make some new friends. 0:14:03.459 --> 0:14:05.539 Maybe he was talking about his wife. His wife was 0:14:05.579 --> 0:14:07.299 having a baby. Then he wanted to know about the dog, 0:14:07.339 --> 0:14:09.019 and I was like, please just take the coffee table 0:14:09.019 --> 0:14:09.859 and get out of my house. 0:14:09.859 --> 0:14:10.779 I'll pay you to go. 0:14:11.299 --> 0:14:13.219 Yeah. I was like, I'll give you the twenty dollars 0:14:13.219 --> 0:14:15.059 to lead anyway, I had to pretend like I needed 0:14:15.059 --> 0:14:16.259 to go and have a shower and that the kids 0:14:16.259 --> 0:14:18.019 need a nat. My kid's full. She doesn't nask. 0:14:18.539 --> 0:14:20.739 He's like, I'll watch the kids, want you shall But. 0:14:20.859 --> 0:14:23.699 There was one story that came up produce the grace 0:14:24.179 --> 0:14:27.539 here she is. I don't think that anyone could top 0:14:28.099 --> 0:14:30.539 the Facebook marketplace story that you had. There was a 0:14:30.539 --> 0:14:32.699 lot of trust that was put in you. Yes there was. 0:14:32.859 --> 0:14:36.099 But my wife, Diana, she is the sort of person 0:14:36.099 --> 0:14:39.339 that gets really into hobbies and just loves buying everything 0:14:39.379 --> 0:14:41.179 before she's even had to go at it. So a 0:14:41.219 --> 0:14:42.859 couple of weeks ago she was like, I want to 0:14:42.859 --> 0:14:45.619 get really into surfing. Has never surfed in her life, 0:14:45.699 --> 0:14:47.699 and she was like, this is my thing now. So 0:14:47.739 --> 0:14:50.299 he organized this meet up to get this surfboard off 0:14:50.339 --> 0:14:52.659 Facebook marketplace. The guy was like, you know what, I'm 0:14:52.699 --> 0:14:54.659 actually out for the day, but I'm going to pop 0:14:54.659 --> 0:14:57.179 it next to this table blah blah blah in the garage. 0:14:57.459 --> 0:14:59.059 And I was like, great, we're sweet. 0:14:59.219 --> 0:14:59.939 We drove an. 0:14:59.859 --> 0:15:01.659 Hour and a half there. How much was he charging 0:15:01.779 --> 0:15:01.979 for it? 0:15:02.259 --> 0:15:06.819 Surfboard in the garage? Aaron down South, down South? 0:15:06.859 --> 0:15:09.579 But it was a good price, good price, work the drive, great. 0:15:09.459 --> 0:15:12.299 Surfboard looked good for beginners. We're like, were set, and 0:15:12.339 --> 0:15:14.379 I was like, I will indulge you this once, but 0:15:15.019 --> 0:15:18.059 this will be the last surfboard you're buying anyway. So 0:15:18.099 --> 0:15:20.779 we get there, find the surfboard exactly where he said, 0:15:20.819 --> 0:15:23.579 next to the table, and then we're like, okay, it's 0:15:23.579 --> 0:15:24.459 not going to fit in the car. 0:15:24.539 --> 0:15:26.499 We're going to have to rope it to the roof. 0:15:27.219 --> 0:15:29.579 So we're in the kind of mentality of if he 0:15:29.659 --> 0:15:33.059 can't tie knots, tie loots, so we have like seven 0:15:33.779 --> 0:15:37.219 that's the saying. So we've tied it all down. We're 0:15:37.299 --> 0:15:39.739 driving back on the freeway. We're like, we've nailed this, 0:15:40.139 --> 0:15:42.819 but then the surfboard starts flapping. 0:15:42.779 --> 0:15:45.579 The wind that gets under surfboard on the roof of 0:15:45.619 --> 0:15:45.899 your car. 0:15:46.099 --> 0:15:48.779 We're about to lose this surfboard that we've just purchased. 0:15:48.859 --> 0:15:49.779 My wife's new hobby. 0:15:49.819 --> 0:15:53.779 Who's so excited about it. It's flapping, it's flapping, and 0:15:53.859 --> 0:15:56.699 we're like heart thumping. You can't even pull over because 0:15:56.699 --> 0:16:00.099 it's like a bit on a highway. So we get 0:16:00.139 --> 0:16:03.339