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Speaker 1: It is time. Of course we're celebrating this year.

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Speaker 2: We are indeed, after our chat with Greg Evans from

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Speaker 2: Perfect Match yesterday, we're going back to nineteen eighty four

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Speaker 2: again today because it turns forty this year, and this

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Speaker 2: time our guest is.

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Speaker 3: The very one and only John Burgess.

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Speaker 4: Hello, thanks for remembering. How can we forgetour wow quick

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Speaker 4: year time? Yeah, a lot of things were going on

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Speaker 4: in my life in.

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Speaker 3: Four quite the time in Wa the eighties.

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Speaker 4: People up a mass for you know what was the

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Speaker 4: what's the best era that you sort of participated in?

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Speaker 4: And I have always said the sixties in Sydney which

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Speaker 4: were outrageous, but the eighties here in Perth were something.

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Speaker 2: Now, especially when I lunch Andraneani you have lunch John with.

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Speaker 1: Connell and Alastair Norwood.

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Speaker 4: I see there was Champagne consuming competition with Alan Bond

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Speaker 4: and he said he loved my wife as well at

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Speaker 4: the Mediterranean Big massive, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, you had the number one radio show in Perth

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four on six PM. Of course, what

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Speaker 2: do you think it was about your radio show that

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Speaker 2: made a number one in nineteen eighty four?

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Speaker 4: Well, the music probably had a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've always tried. This is my fifty ninth year,

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Speaker 4: by the way, I'm starting to radio before both of

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Speaker 4: you were born. I guess with me, people see what

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Speaker 4: they get, you know, not only on radio, but on

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Speaker 4: television as well. You know, so I always tried to

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Speaker 4: just be happy and bright. I mean, they don't care

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Speaker 4: if you don't feel well or you get in here too,

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Speaker 4: got a call and then people below and go so

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Speaker 4: why you know, so you've got to be up there

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Speaker 4: and Adam all as you guys would know, you tell me, yeah,

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Speaker 4: to suck eggs here. But it's it's it was just

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Speaker 4: a great time to be in radio. Of course, there

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Speaker 4: wasn't as many stations in not four in Perth as

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Speaker 4: there is now. Of course the competition wasn't quite as big,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I used to enjoy some pretty good

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Speaker 4: figures when the ratings came out.

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Speaker 1: I had mighty fine.

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Speaker 5: I used to listen to you when I was getting

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Speaker 5: ready for school, ready for school to Greenwood High School.

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Speaker 1: I remember one morning we had like this.

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Speaker 5: There was a middle of winter Burjo's on the radio

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Speaker 5: on Better Music six PM, and I laughed so hard

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Speaker 5: at something you said I broke my toe.

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Speaker 1: I kicked my toe on the John's making me laugh.

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Speaker 4: Did I get the bill for that?

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Speaker 1: But I've got it for you today. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But it was the thing mate, You're very You're a

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Speaker 5: comforting voice, but you also had that giggle, you had

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Speaker 5: that tiky giggle that got us through on a rainy day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. We did some weird and wonderful things, you know,

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Speaker 4: keep people entertained, I hope. And it seemed to work. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it seems to work absolutely. Yah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've worked for decades since then. As you said

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Speaker 2: during to your what was it fifty ninth year of

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Speaker 2: the wireless I say it quickly if okay, what's one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest changes you've seen over that time in radio?

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Speaker 4: Well? Where would I start? I mean, it seems to

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Speaker 4: me these days that I mean the I've always believed

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Speaker 4: that radio should be instantaneous and happened right there, and

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Speaker 4: then you know, when you talk to people, not record

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Speaker 4: stuff and play it back or take it from somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: And because people aren't interested in what's going on somewhere else,

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Speaker 4: they want to know what's happening here. That's the biggest

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Speaker 4: change I believe. Yeah, the local involvement and the spontaneity

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Speaker 4: and whatever you because I love talking to people. You know,

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Speaker 4: listeners call up and say, you know, why did you

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Speaker 4: play that? And I said, well, because it was number

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Speaker 4: one for three hundred weeks or something, that's why. Okay

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Speaker 4: then so but that's kind of lost. Of course, you

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Speaker 4: guys keep you the flag flying. What do I mean?

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Speaker 3: What about the technology? Oh my gosh, we all.

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Speaker 2: Work, you know, chalk and tape and you know, reel

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Speaker 2: to reels and playing carridges, records, things that would wipe

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I did all of that too. I mean I admire

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Speaker 4: you guys now because the computer age. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 4: know how you work. Because when I was on the radio,

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Speaker 4: if I changed my mind, yes, yeah, I thought, oh no,

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Speaker 4: we got oh I should do this. Yeah I could

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Speaker 4: do it. Now you've got to click on the you know,

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Speaker 4: other how you do it?

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Speaker 5: We find a way to break the rules. John, You

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Speaker 5: weren't just starting on six pm. You're also doing a

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Speaker 6: I do it before, And what a huge success wheel

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Speaker 6: of fortune was to I still.

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Speaker 3: Hear people yell out top do who knows what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was eighty four. I started Wheel of Fortune,

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Speaker 4: took over from Ernie Siegi. Oh. Yes, it was on

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Speaker 4: at three o'clock in the afternoon in those days, and

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Speaker 4: they moved it to five o'clock and then after about

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Speaker 4: because it was so popular. After about three months we

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Speaker 4: moved to five point thirty. I remained and there was

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Speaker 4: nothing for us to have a million people. Yeah watching

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Speaker 4: at five thirty.

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Speaker 2: Five thirty is as good as you can get. Because

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Speaker 2: the news was on at six. You couldn't exactly, you know,

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Speaker 2: knock them off so well.

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Speaker 1: So did you have this? Didn't you have a brutal schedule?

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Speaker 5: You hopped on a plane and flew somewhere in recorded shows.

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Speaker 4: Breakfast radio here in Perth, went home, got my gear together,

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Speaker 4: flew to Adelaide where we recorded Wheel of Fortune. Got

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Speaker 4: there about two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon, started

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Speaker 4: taping about seven o'clock that night. Finish about midnight. Do

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Speaker 4: five shirts. Yeah, get up Saturday morning. After having a

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Speaker 4: few drinks with the crew on Friday. It was Saturday morning,

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Speaker 4: get the plane back to Perth. Get back here about

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Speaker 4: one o'clock in the afternoon. That was I did that.

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Speaker 3: For twelve years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, abt time they brought the show to you really

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Speaker 4: Well as that I was I launched, I was LOTO

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Speaker 4: in Australia, so I was flying to Melbourne on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 4: I was a lot of drawer. Do my show from

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Speaker 4: Melbourne back to Perth on Wednesday morning, fly back here

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday and then on Friday, flight to Adelaide and

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Speaker 4: two Whelfford.

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Speaker 1: Get about eighty everywhere were you were, burgo everywhere?

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Speaker 4: Before seven had come up with an idea, I won't

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Speaker 4: you do something in Sydney on Thursday. So then I'd

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Speaker 4: leave home Tuesday morning for a bunch of shirts, get

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Speaker 4: home Saturday with the same bunch of shirts covered in

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Speaker 4: TV makeup and stuff given to my wife and say

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Speaker 4: I need this again Tuesday. She finally said that how

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Speaker 4: long do you think this is going to go on? Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's where I decided to give up radio here and

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Speaker 4: to the Gold Coast and they kept doing Will of

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Speaker 4: Fortune and then they changed their mind about me. And anyway,

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Speaker 4: there's another story nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was quite the controversy actually, as people

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Speaker 2: were not happy when you left.

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Speaker 4: The show went from the number one to Channel seven

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Speaker 4: stad to lose the news, never done leading, So they

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Speaker 4: got rid of me in June. In November they offered

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Speaker 4: me my job back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you go and come back.

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Speaker 4: I'd be talking to Gerry Packer through this time, who

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Speaker 4: was paying me not to do anything whouse. So then

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Speaker 4: Channel seven off of them a job back and pack

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Speaker 4: and said, well we can't have you going back there.

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Speaker 4: So he made me another offer.

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Speaker 3: Oh let the bitty begin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic, And so I talked to my wife and

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Speaker 4: we decided to go forward rather then go back. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: so about two weeks after they had nothing for me

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Speaker 4: to do, they came up with the idea for catchphras.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's right, So I catch Raise Catch ninety four

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Speaker 4: to two thousand and four or something. Yeah, so about

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Speaker 4: what for twenty something years at thirty on Australian television.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, with no talent, I was Both

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Speaker 2: stints were long, so clearly something was working.

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Speaker 1: It was working. Yeah, big.

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Speaker 5: We talked about nineteen eighty four on the Heyday here

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Speaker 5: in Perth and what was going on and the city's

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Speaker 5: changed a lot in that time. Can you tell me

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Speaker 5: you answer this question? What car were you driving when

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Speaker 5: you pull up to the Mediterranean. In fact, looked over

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Speaker 5: the road in Rockaby Road in Subie. But what you

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Speaker 5: had a fancy car, didn't you in the in.

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Speaker 4: The eighties, Yeah, and a few in my life. That's

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Speaker 4: where all my money went. Porsches and rolls.

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Speaker 2: Rolls, yeah, yeah, a park of rolls out Friday blood shop.

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Speaker 4: Well no, I didn't really get drive there.

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Speaker 1: It's just across the road.

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Speaker 4: Smart, so it's got someone to drive me home from there.

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Speaker 1: It was very very wise.

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Speaker 3: Some of the memorable you've got someone to drive you home.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: We just have to get any I've got. Who are

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Speaker 2: some of the memory memorable guests that you interviewed in

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, well Elton John, Roger Stewart, awesome, there you

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Speaker 4: go else, Roy Robison, Wow, most of Royalbison's concerts in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Really he became a good friend. And one story is

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Speaker 4: not not not in any four, but was the last

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Speaker 4: concert he did at the Opera House in Sydney, which

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Speaker 4: I hosted for him. He was very quietly spoken. Got

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Speaker 4: lovely guy, tragic life, yes, and he said John, he said,

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Speaker 4: he said, we have some supper after the show. I said, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 4: not a problem. He said, do you mind if I

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Speaker 4: you know. Anyway, we're just chatting away then and he said, oh,

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Speaker 4: here's my friend. Now turned around it was Neil Diamond.

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Speaker 4: So I had supper that Sweetheart's Restaurant in King's Cross,

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, with Neil Diamond and Roy Orbison. And

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Speaker 4: in those days we didn't have phones and cameras.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right, yeah, no proof.

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Speaker 4: A few people that press turned up and took a

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Speaker 4: few photos, which is in the story somewhere. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: so that was I mean, I was very lucky to

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Speaker 4: Sydney Stadium when I first started doing it, which you

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Speaker 4: got my face in front of people, yeah you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean Peter Paul and Mary Herb Albert, the Tijuana

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Speaker 4: Brice who Small Faces, DJ Proby, Roy Orbison, the Rolling Stones,

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Speaker 4: all those guys.

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Speaker 5: Still goes yeah yeah there on Instagram he's still doing John.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's it. I got to write the book.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you do.

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Speaker 2: Need to write the book anyway, And I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe you want to save it for the book.

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Speaker 3: But how did you get your nickname, Baby John?

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Speaker 4: When I first started to u W in Sydney back

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen sixty five, I was doing seven or

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Speaker 4: was Ward Austin, who was Pey would Bally Austin, biggest

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Speaker 4: and I followed him at seven o'clock and he started

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Speaker 4: I was twenty one or two or something. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 4: baby John. So there you go.

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Speaker 5: And where you were bowling ten pin bowling champion? Was

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Speaker 5: it laws of or Pally Austin? You taught out a bowl?

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Speaker 5: You get him some tips?

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Speaker 4: John Lewis? It was. It was John Lewis really that

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Speaker 4: got me interested in radio. Yeah, So he used to

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Speaker 4: it his fault. This is going down at the moment.

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Speaker 1: It's been our pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Story and many many more will be in the book.

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Speaker 2: You do have to, I mean really much for a

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Speaker 2: long time time.

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Speaker 4: But because well, things that have been going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: outside of the stuff, yeah, put on the back burner.

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Speaker 3: Life does happen.

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Speaker 4: Still here. Still, we're still waking up on the share.

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Speaker 5: It on socials today, man, we're shared on socials on

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Speaker 5: ninety six of them socials today. But there was a

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Speaker 5: photo of you that I found that can go in

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Speaker 5: the book.

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Speaker 1: From the day from the eighties.

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Speaker 3: He keeps everything, Jo it's.

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Speaker 1: A publicity shop from him, Larry.

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Speaker 4: Larry, Yeah, you keep that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to get you're signing that one for me.

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Speaker 2: It has been a pleasure to delve back to nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty four with you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks John, Sorry rambled on a min Why we asked

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Speaker 4: you the memories that flooding back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonderful. Yeah, thanks John, You see you mate.

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Speaker 4: Thanks you interest. I really appreciate it.