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Speaker 1: Cleary Releases The story behind the album.

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Speaker 2: Rumors.

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Speaker 3: Its Fleetwood Mac's eleventh studio album. Released in February of

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven, It became the band's first number one

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Speaker 3: album on the UK Album's Chart. It topped the US

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Speaker 3: Billboard two hundred and here in Australia received multi platinum certifications,

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Speaker 3: as it did in many other countries. Recorded largely in California,

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Speaker 3: the recording sessions took place as the band members were

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Speaker 3: dealing with a lot so much breakups. Lots of breakups

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Speaker 3: and struggles with drugs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of jealousy going on, a lot of jealousy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously helped the songwriting as well, isn't it clearly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? But at what costs? Yeah, lots of challenges. Mick

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Speaker 4: Fleet with the very tall figure.

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Speaker 1: There, the drummer of course, from the band talking about

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Speaker 1: those challenges in the recording.

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Speaker 5: By the time we got to Sacle to start Rumors,

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Speaker 5: the roller coaster was in motion.

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Speaker 4: The two challenges really, one was.

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Speaker 5: A musical challenge and make another Fleetwood Mac album, and

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Speaker 5: two was knowing that what was going on personally, which

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Speaker 5: was everyone splitting up because Steven Lindsay they were very

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Speaker 5: much a couple of basically many ways married although they

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Speaker 5: were never married. And John and Chris, who were married.

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Speaker 4: What a mess and what a place to start.

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Speaker 3: What a mess? Indeed, wasn't I mean it didn't. Lindy

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Speaker 3: only ever agreed to be in Fleetwood Mac as long

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Speaker 3: as they took Stevie as well. It was the and

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Speaker 3: then once they got there, it was like, oh, she's

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Speaker 3: really good. I mean we like you.

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Speaker 4: Too, but wow, she's awsome. I think she blew them away. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because they were a very different band.

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Speaker 1: There were blues band before that, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden these two came in and might the more commercial,

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Speaker 1: but who have so many problems and issues.

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Speaker 4: During the recording between Stadium, lindsay, we.

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Speaker 6: Really wondered whether or not we would get through Rumors

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Speaker 6: again in this studio, in that room, and there in

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Speaker 6: that tiny little room there was you know, five people

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Speaker 6: that were totally breaking up.

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Speaker 7: Whatever was going on in the band, specifically between the

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Speaker 7: two couples very much informed the material and I think

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Speaker 7: that was a very great appeal of the album. If

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Speaker 7: you look at the success that Rumors enjoyed, I think

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Speaker 7: that it goes a little bit beyond the music itself.

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Speaker 7: I think a resonance kicks in that has to do

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Speaker 7: with the interaction of the people, the whole being greater

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Speaker 7: than the sum of the parts. And I think a

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Speaker 7: tangible element of that is the fact that you had

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Speaker 7: these dialogues shooting back and forth between members of the

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Speaker 7: band about things that were happening to all of us

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Speaker 7: while we were recording these songs.

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Speaker 3: You can and in some of you know, you say videos,

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Speaker 3: you can see them. You can see them singing at

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Speaker 3: each other like some kind of sing battle.

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, when you see them on stage around

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Speaker 1: that time, even since then, and they could see them

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Speaker 1: going each other.

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Speaker 4: But it's quite scary.

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Speaker 3: The thing is that I don't think either of them,

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Speaker 3: Lindsay or Stevie, could deny that they were each other's

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Speaker 3: musical soulmates.

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Speaker 7: Whatever Stevie's music was, somehow I was the soulmate that

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Speaker 7: just knew exactly what to do with it.

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Speaker 4: And that never went away.

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Speaker 7: It just became a little bittersweet in terms of wanting

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Speaker 7: to do it. There were times when I had the

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Speaker 7: urge not to want to help her, and that's a

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Speaker 7: weird thing to admit, but these were the challenging things.

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Speaker 4: Peoplere bitter than sweet.

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Speaker 3: I think, to be honest, I know how you could

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Speaker 3: make that better, but I'm.

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Speaker 4: Going to hold it back. Yeah, we've got to hold

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Speaker 4: a name. I'm not going to help her out assist

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Speaker 4: with your songs.

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Speaker 3: Rumors contains a mix of electric and acoustic instrumentation, accented rhythms,

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Speaker 3: guitars and keyboards, and of course it's the lyrics concerned

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Speaker 3: personal and often troubled relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, very sad recently when we lost Christine McVay

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Speaker 1: wonderful songwrite a beautiful voice, and her talking about John,

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Speaker 1: her former husband at that stage, suggesting rumors and on songwriting.

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Speaker 2: We were all writing songs about each other basically, although

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Speaker 2: we were unaware of it at the time. All the

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Speaker 2: songs were about our own private relationships and our own

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Speaker 2: troubled relationships. And I think it was John that suggested

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Speaker 2: the name Rumors because we were writing sort of journals

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Speaker 2: and diaries about one another in which we hadn't realized.

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Speaker 2: So we heard all the songs all strung together.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's a big going on.

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Speaker 1: Even after Lindsay was later kicked out of the band,

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Speaker 1: he worked, He worked and recorded an album with Christine.

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Speaker 1: Two of them work really well together at Christy McVay

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Speaker 1: and Lizzie Buckingham.

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Speaker 7: Christina and I somehow had a common foundation, even though

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Speaker 7: she was trained and I was not, and even though

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Speaker 7: her background was in the blues, we had a very

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Speaker 7: similar musical sense, of very similar melodic sense in many ways,

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Speaker 7: so that we could jam on a guitar and piano

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Speaker 7: and it would just spark off. She would play around

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Speaker 7: me and I would play around her.

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Speaker 3: What an album, as we say, written such personal lyrics,

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Speaker 3: everyone writing about each other. But one one track on it,

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Speaker 3: the Chain, which is number one on side to lists

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Speaker 3: the lot as writers written by Buckingham, Fleetwood, C mcveie,

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