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Speaker 1: Because joining me in the studio right now is the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Natasha Files.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, firstly, a massive weekend at the Supercars. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any idea how many people we.

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Speaker 2: Had there at this stage, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I think some of the early figures coming through was

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Speaker 4: over forty thousand people attended. It was a fantastic event.

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Speaker 4: I think well done to Major Events, but everyone in

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Speaker 4: the community that got behind it, the sponsors, you know,

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Speaker 4: it takes a lot to bring this event to Darwin.

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Speaker 3: But it was just fantastic out there.

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Speaker 4: There was people of all ages really enjoying the atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: It was a massive weekend. Forty thousand is that record

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Speaker 1: breaking numbers?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's record breaking, but that was just

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Speaker 4: a figure I was provided, so I'm sure inn tea

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Speaker 4: Major Events they'll confirm all the figures and it'd be

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Speaker 4: happy to chat with you later in the week. But

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Speaker 4: well done to them and their team and the Supercars team.

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Speaker 4: It's such a polished operation and they bring that to

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Speaker 2: It was a wonderful event.

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Speaker 1: Look, we are going to catch up with NTA major

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Speaker 1: events this morning after ten o'clock, so we'll see what

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Speaker 1: else we can find out. Unfortunately, some pretty terrible visions

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Speaker 1: emerged over the weekend of a stolen vehicle running down

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Speaker 1: pedestrians outside a hotel in the Northern Suburbs. Now Police

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Speaker 1: is being investigated. They've said that initial investigations indicate the

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Speaker 1: two family groups were involved in a physical altercation with sticks.

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Speaker 1: An axe was used as well, causing superficial injuries to

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Speaker 1: a number of people. One family groups then alleged to

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Speaker 1: headlines and gone viral. Have you seen it, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I've been briefed on that footage and I do need

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Speaker 4: matter that's under active police investigation. But it's just simply

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Speaker 4: unacceptable behavior in our community and Territorians police our community

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Speaker 4: get frustrated when we see this and everyone has a responsibility.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the factors that led to this incident,

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Speaker 4: but we know broadly that alcohol grog is a factor.

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Speaker 4: But we'll certainly be awaiting police's information around this.

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Speaker 2: It would be shocking. I mean when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: staying in the hotel that are here for the supercars.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just the last thing you want to see happening.

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Speaker 4: And as I said, I do need to be careful

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Speaker 4: with my comments, but it doesn't reflect the broader behavior

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Speaker 4: of our community. We've just had a great weekend, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was you couldn't get a hotel room in dah

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Speaker 4: when the top end, you know, our community came together

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Speaker 3: And yet we have this behavior.

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Speaker 4: That is small and a small minority, but it just

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Speaker 4: leaves us feeling really disappointed. So Katie, we've spoken, you know,

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Speaker 4: across the range of things that we're doing as a government.

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Speaker 4: Will continue to listen to police, listen to community because

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Speaker 4: this isn't just about a police response. They're there at

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Speaker 4: that crisis point, but it's about those non government services

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a bit more broadly, because, as I

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Speaker 2: There's no sugarcoating it.

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Speaker 1: In Darwin, commercial break ins will they rose up eighty

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Speaker 1: Out to Elizabeth River, those commercial break ins up eighty

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Speaker 1: Commercial break ins rose by ninety four percent and homes

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Speaker 1: It's the broader community that's being so heavily impacted, right.

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Speaker 4: So those crime statistics to the end of April, which

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Speaker 2: Do we know how many people have been now returned home.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you described it then as.

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Speaker 1: Risky behavior, but you know, if we go by what

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Speaker 4: So what I was trying to explain then, Katie, was

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Speaker 1: There are these situations at the moment where you really seem,

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Speaker 1: Don't think it'll last for a long time if this

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Speaker 4: So we have put a record investment into police since

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Speaker 1: Look, some are suggesting that we need to look at

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like for you at the moment, everything's

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Speaker 4: Oh, Katie, I'm not going to rule something out just

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Speaker 1: Received a message from Bill at Mitchell's in Birama. He said, Hi, Katie,

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about now, you know, years upon years

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Speaker 2: How important is this issue of crime.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: From what I'm told, students, so primary school, middle school,

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Speaker 1: a Northern Territory based carnival, kids from Alice Springs for

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Speaker 1: school sport can't travel here, which I've got to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I find quite ridiculous, Katie.

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Speaker 4: Last week the public health emergency ended in the Northern Territory,

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Speaker 4: So I cannot be clear as Chief Minister and Health

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Speaker 4: learning to live with it. We've also got a flu

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Speaker 4: But I get frustrated time and time again when COVID

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Speaker 4: is given as a reason. Now, in terms of this,

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Speaker 4: there has been policies I think we've spoken. When I

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Speaker 4: was allowed to do week that was back in the days,

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Speaker 4: but around Excursion and the Department of Education, they were

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Speaker 4: good meaning policies, Katie. They were based on keeping our

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Speaker 4: staff and our students safe. But those times have moved on,

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Speaker 4: so I expect to see changes in this space from

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Speaker 3: Because kids it is a huge part.

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Speaker 4: If you ask, I can tell you, Katie, I can

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Speaker 4: remember those school sport excursions that I did. I can

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Speaker 4: remember excursions. I remember going to Yarrawanga to visit the

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Speaker 4: But you know that's what's important, and so yeah, just

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Speaker 4: but for everyone listening, the public health emergency has ended.

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Speaker 4: There is you know, four directions still in place in

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Speaker 4: the territory around COVID, but people really need to be

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Speaker 4: agile and move on.

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Speaker 1: I mean what we're actually talking about here though, as

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Speaker 1: I understand it is one of you know, the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory government's signed departments and Department of Education.

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Speaker 2: So are you putting them on notice?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Katie.

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Speaker 4: And you can imagine probably the frustration for me as

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Speaker 4: the health minister throughout this pandemic when I'm told, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's because of COVID, and I know quite well it's not. Now.

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Speaker 3: There were measures in place.

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Speaker 4: They were to keep children, student staff safe, and they

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Speaker 4: had restrictions around the kilomitage that could be traveled. I

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Speaker 4: know the department has been looking into those, but yes,

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Speaker 4: and the advice I've got is education will make changes

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Speaker 4: from ten three, but just broadly speaking, the check in signs.

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Speaker 4: You know, of course hand hygiene, physical distancing. It's great

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Speaker 4: if we can still implement that, but we really do

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Speaker 4: need to move forward from the pandemic health emergency.

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Speaker 1: I mean to those parents listening this morning whose kids

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Speaker 1: will maybe chosen to go away for the national titles

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Speaker 1: for a different sport, whatever sport it is. What you're

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Speaker 1: saying is that they you know that you want this

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Speaker 1: to change and you want them to still be able

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Speaker 1: to go away.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So clubs are going away, Katie. And we've had

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Speaker 4: some really vulnerable people athletes head away recently and they

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Speaker 4: have been impacted by COVID. But you can put in

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Speaker 4: place measures. We understand COVID, we understand how it impacts.

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Speaker 4: These are important events. And Katie, it's two years later,

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Speaker 4: it's over two years later for the kids are missing out.

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Speaker 4: Children that were in grade three are now in grade five.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's a substantial part of their primary schooling

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Speaker 4: and from school assemblies through to excursions, through to sport events.

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Speaker 3: Traveling. We need to update this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean whether you're talking about sport, whether you're talking

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Speaker 1: about the arts, whether you're talking about music. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about kids who are engaging in really good,

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Speaker 1: positive activities that we want all children to be involved in.

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Speaker 2: So if we are able to get them.

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Speaker 1: Back into those different activities, it can only be a

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Speaker 1: good thing for the community. Absolutely well, we better leave

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Speaker 1: it their chief Minister Natasha Files, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Take care,