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Speaker 1: The Women Woody podcast that bite sized.

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Speaker 2: What's Got to Call from a woman called Page yesterday

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Speaker 2: was saying worst day, worst day to get dumped.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was.

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Speaker 4: About sixteen and I was on my way to my

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Speaker 4: boyfriend's house to and the relationships. We got there and

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Speaker 4: realized this dog was dying, so we had to go

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Speaker 4: take him, take it to the vet. We took it

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Speaker 4: to the vet. It passed away at the vet. We

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Speaker 4: got back home and I still pro seated him with

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Speaker 4: the breaker.

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Speaker 3: Much dog in the window. No need to that audio Pale.

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Speaker 2: I think it's necessary just to remind everyone how beautiful

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Speaker 2: where dogs are.

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Speaker 3: Now putting your dog down to the worst day of

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Speaker 3: your life? No, it is. Have you been, you know,

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Speaker 3: next to a dog when that happens.

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Speaker 5: I actually I've grown up with the dog.

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Speaker 2: Your eyeballing the dog, They're looking at you, they're going, hey,

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Speaker 2: everything's good here, and then they're gone.

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Speaker 3: That's a shocking day. That's the worst day of my life.

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Speaker 5: I imagine.

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Speaker 1: So, but I also say be before I speak the page,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to scare a page off. I

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Speaker 1: would say one of the worst things you can do

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Speaker 1: to someone is to stay with them when you know

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Speaker 1: you want to break up with them a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of weeks. Brother, I don't need to know about it.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: It's tears dry, the tears dry.

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Speaker 5: I didn't do it, mate. Let's go to page quickly,

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Speaker 5: from your from your page.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to defend you here because I do think

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Speaker 1: it's like a it's a bit of a lineball situation here.

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Speaker 5: Here you go on page good.

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Speaker 4: Thanks you very good.

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Speaker 1: Now, obviously, like obviously you I mean when you you

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Speaker 1: called the show and we were talking about the worst,

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Speaker 1: you know, bad timing to break up with someone, you know,

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Speaker 1: it obviously wasn't a good time page. But you've obviously

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Speaker 1: made absolutely yeah, and you've obviously made the decision to go.

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Speaker 5: Look, I know I want to break up with you.

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Speaker 5: I think you know.

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Speaker 3: I think today is the wrong day.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I imagine, Paige, you were going, Look, you're

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Speaker 1: already in a bad play. So maybe I'll just love

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Speaker 1: this one in there and you can sort of grieve

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Speaker 1: both me and the dog at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Is it was that the reasoning?

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Speaker 6: No, that wasn't the reasoning.

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Speaker 4: I just thought that, No, it wasn't. That was terrible

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Speaker 4: and I shouldn't have done it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, so okay, so you regretted page.

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Speaker 4: I regret the timing.

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Speaker 1: You regret the timing. Yeah, But the only other thing

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Speaker 1: i'd say, and you know, because I mean the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're regretting this page means let's just put this

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Speaker 1: to bed.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was a bad thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But the only other defense I would say, and this

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Speaker 1: is my last one before I just stopped, is and

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Speaker 1: I say this from experience I've when I was a

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Speaker 1: lot younger, I've I've stayed with people for a longer

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Speaker 1: period of time.

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Speaker 5: Take dog dying at it, but I've stayed with people.

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Speaker 1: And knowing that I want to break up with them,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's more damaging than just ripping the

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, look, I just.

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Speaker 4: No certified I didn't do it that day, like I

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Speaker 3: So you were surprised.

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Speaker 2: So you got there, you walk in the front door,

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Speaker 2: You're like, Jake, how are let's have a chat, right,

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, Bessie's in the backyard

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Speaker 3: Is that sequence?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so then you had to go to the vet

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Speaker 2: and you're sitting there going.

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Speaker 3: Geez, I'm still sitting on this thing. I still can't come.

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Speaker 3: I know it was.

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Speaker 2: I want to take some calls on this because I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Like for me, As I said before, let the tears

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Speaker 2: try like for the sake of don't worry about the relationship.

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Speaker 3: Let's just think about them as as a person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's think about them as a person and

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Speaker 2: let's just go right. You need a shoulder to cry

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Speaker 2: on for the next little while. I will sit on

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Speaker 2: the guilt for a little bit. Yes, I shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: with you for a couple of weeks, but at least you've.

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Speaker 3: Got your rock how next to you to help support you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that's a pretty good point.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks, mate, I appreciate that. How how long you've

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Speaker 2: got nothing?

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Speaker 5: How long do you how long do you wait?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: How is this a six month thing?

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Speaker 3: I said, let the tears.

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Speaker 2: Drive and wait till they take the dog bet out

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Speaker 2: of the house for Christ's sake.

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Speaker 5: True, that's the thing you do, all right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta take it out of there, all right,

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Speaker 2: page page Yes, I appreciate that you've called the show

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Speaker 2: again and in all honesty, In all honesty, there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of people in this team who will remain

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Speaker 2: nameless because they're cowards who seem to think that as

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Speaker 2: what he said. I mean, I don't like the language

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Speaker 2: around it, but you know, lobbing the pain.

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Speaker 3: Together is a good way to go about this.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's sort of like have it all at

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Speaker 2: once and then they've got time to get over it

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Speaker 2: all at once.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, youah, go on, page.

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Speaker 4: If it's both on the same day, they might put

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Speaker 4: it into perspective like, oh, well, the dog's passing away,

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Speaker 7: Might not see that.

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Speaker 3: Bad One more?

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Speaker 1: One more, I'll say in your corner, page is so

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Speaker 1: say if however long it takes for him to get

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Speaker 1: over the fact that he talks past. Yeah, so you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're happy now, Well, now that you're in a good mood,

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Speaker 1: I'm breaking up with you and then it's this roller

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Speaker 5: Really going down, getting over it and moving on?

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Speaker 2: They would Yeah, I know, Okay, Paige is going to

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Speaker 2: stay with us. The great news is Page's X. Jake

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Speaker 2: is going to join us on the phone up next.

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Speaker 2: Oh my lord, but I'd love to hear from some

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Speaker 2: of you guys. Third one, six five. Do we think

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Speaker 2: she did the right thing there? Are you pro pain lumping?

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Speaker 2: Or do you think she should have stepped it out

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Speaker 2: a little bit and given him some time to recover?

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Speaker 2: How's this for a scenario? How's this for a scenario?

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Speaker 2: You're with someone right? Sorry, I lost my headphones for

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Speaker 2: a second. Man, pretty terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Stroke.

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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's quite feminine, wasn't it?

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Speaker 5: All Right? Here we go.

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Speaker 3: This is the scenario.

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Speaker 2: You're with someone, right, you want to break up with

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Speaker 2: it something horrible happens to them. Is it more ethical

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Speaker 3: Or should you wait a little while?

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Speaker 2: I was firmly in the camp of just wait, let

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Speaker 2: them get over it, and then hit them with the

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Speaker 2: next thing wood. He the most cowardly person I've ever met,

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Speaker 3: Think that hitting him with it on the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Seems to think with h him on the same day,

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Speaker 2: it's a better way to go about it.

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Speaker 3: You surprised me.

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Speaker 1: It's depending on obviously, the thing, and the specific example

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Speaker 1: we're talking about is a dog Dame, which is obviously

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Speaker 1: on the higher degree of a bad.

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Speaker 2: A woman called Page called the show yesterday. Let's have

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Speaker 2: a listen to the audio. First, agave Toak.

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Speaker 4: I was about sixteen, and I was on my way

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Speaker 4: to my boyfriend's house and the relationships. We got there

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Speaker 4: and realized this dog was dying, so we had to

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Speaker 4: to the event. It passed away at the vet. We

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Speaker 1: Why so, where one place I'm coming from this is

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Speaker 1: from experiences I've I've gone to. I've known I want

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Speaker 1: to break up with someone before and then stayed with them,

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Speaker 1: probably out of cowardly reasons, or I would justify reasons

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Speaker 1: in my head, Oh no, now's not a good time.

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Speaker 5: Because things are tough at work, or because they've whatever

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Speaker 5: the reason is. I can't with reasons.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was the strong how I ever

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Speaker 1: if you're in a relationship and someone's to one side's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but their dog just done, Paige, and that's yeah,

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Speaker 2: Page joins us.

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Speaker 3: Now, welcome back, Page. Good on you for coming back

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Speaker 3: on the show. I was just checking you.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually saying now that if you had your time again,

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Speaker 1: you would have done it differently.

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Speaker 5: You probably would have stayed with him, right.

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Speaker 4: Oh No, I'm just saying it was a bad timing,

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Speaker 4: all right, You're sticky.

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Speaker 3: Got an integrity page, and I like this about it.

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Speaker 2: She's willing to say it was a bad thing to do,

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Speaker 2: but she felt like that was the right way to

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Speaker 2: go about it. It's let's go. I asked people to

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Speaker 2: call thirty one oh six five. Should she have waited,

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Speaker 2: Tash or Tash you've called, what would you have done?

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Speaker 6: I would have just done the same thing, ripped the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exact same thing, Because like, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, there's no good time to break up with someone,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like if you let them heal for like a

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Speaker 4: month and then you just hit them with another like bombshell,

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Speaker 4: I feel like that that would be worth If it

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Speaker 4: was me, I'd rather someone just break up with me

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Speaker 4: at the same time.

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Speaker 6: Whether I would do that.

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Speaker 4: Or not, I don't know, but I would rather that

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Speaker 4: happened to me.

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Speaker 1: That's actually I haven't thought about putting the shoe on

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Speaker 1: the other foot. I would want them to break up

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 3: Have you had a dog that you put down?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: No, all right, Tash?

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Speaker 2: Have you no chess is called on thirty one oh

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Speaker 2: six five chess?

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Speaker 3: You've been in a similar situation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have boys.

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Speaker 7: I ended up breaking up with an X right after

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Speaker 7: he found out that his mum got cancer.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it.

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Speaker 7: Was like I felt kind of guilt tripped into feeling

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Speaker 7: like I needed to say for him.

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Speaker 6: Not that he guilted me, but you know, of course

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Speaker 6: you want to be.

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Speaker 7: There for them and you want to support them, but

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Speaker 3: Once you're out.

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Speaker 2: A good point that I had, When you're still in it,

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Speaker 2: you don't give them a chance to find another support network.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just that's good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 5: Go to Amanda. Hear Amanda, what are your thoughts you've experienced?

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Speaker 6: Look, there's been some good words that I have been

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Speaker 6: I had my snotty cry, and I found out two

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Speaker 6: weeks later that he'd actually left his new girlfriend to

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Speaker 6: being knowing that you've had a snotty cry with somebody

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Speaker 1: Amanda, what if you so let's take this cry you

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Speaker 1: said it about three times down.

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Speaker 6: It's an important factor.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know you hades and there are snotty cries,

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Speaker 1: if you found out that, say, he wasn't with his

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Speaker 1: probably checked out of their relationship, would you still think

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Speaker 1: grateful that he's stuck with you for a few weeks

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Speaker 6: No, I would have preferred to just not rock up

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Speaker 6: because it's a really vulnerable thing to be so distressed

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Speaker 5: That's like the last.

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Speaker 6: Girl said, like if you checked out, let them find

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Speaker 5: She whiz, I didn't see this going this way. But well,

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Speaker 5: Page is just on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Page, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 4: I like what I think it was tasked the first call,

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Speaker 4: I said, it's never a good time to break up

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Speaker 2: So what's not a good time though, is the afternoon

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Speaker 3: I reckon, we could put that is not a good time.

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Speaker 1: We will hang it onto it like a dog with

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Speaker 3: Usually just don't think I could do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's so funny, like I feel like

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Speaker 1: the place where I'm talking from is that I've stayed

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's almost like that visceral memory for you

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Speaker 2: But let's went down to the pisto resistance here, because

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Speaker 2: the man who put his dog down and was broken

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Speaker 2: up with that afternoon by Page, Jake, Oh, cleaz, he'srin

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Speaker 3: He is welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Jake.

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Speaker 5: How oh, Now that's that's not by that.

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Speaker 3: That's not by that, Jake, Jake, it was a long time.

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Speaker 3: It was eight years ago, Jake.

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Speaker 8: No, I think it was like I think Page sixteen,

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Speaker 8: but we were nineteen and eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I think, oh okay, okay, a bit fresher than we felt.

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Speaker 1: on the day that your dog past.

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Speaker 5: Looking back on that time, are.

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Speaker 1: You would you have preferred it if it happened later

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Speaker 8: What's kind of funny because Page stayed over that night

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Speaker 8: just handed me her phone and she's like, I want

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Speaker 8: you to read this and whatever. I read it and

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Speaker 8: it's like a breakup on a message in notes, I'd say, oh,

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Speaker 8: I was already, I guess upset. So I just had

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Speaker 8: and yeah, so I was so yeah, it was like that,

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Speaker 8: really you you're going oh to make it like even

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Speaker 8: funnier when her house was getting built. This is only

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Speaker 8: like a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Her dog came to live with me, so oh my god, Wow, wow,

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Speaker 2: he's got everything.

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Speaker 3: So you guys are on speaking terms again.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we're friends.

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Speaker 2: Page did you was there a hint of irony in

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Speaker 2: the air when you sent Jake your dog.

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Speaker 1: Age.

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Speaker 3: I think she's been embarrassed. I think she's enough.

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Speaker 5: The sayings got your tongue, but dog got your tongue?

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Speaker 5: Did more of the boys on the full Show podcast?

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Speaker 7: You know you want to