1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Get A. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Radio on the pod Today is a returning guest, Monte Franklin, 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: incredible stand up comedian, writer, actor, producer, I want to 9 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: say director too, NonStop Go get A Today. He really 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: talked about the importance of balance. He's a surfer as well, 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: and talked about to be a really great creative or 12 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: to be a creative in general, you need to have 13 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: that thing that is like a mental and spiritual cleanse, 14 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and for him, it's a surf trip. So it was 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: really cool because in the first episode or the first 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: pod we did together, so at three hundred and ninety, 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: he talked a lot about work ethic and what we 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: see is that tip of the iceberg and all the 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: work that has underneath it all you rarely see, whereas 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: this time he talked about the importance of finding balance 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: to be a better creative, so it was so cool. 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: We also got really nerdy over Elvis and movies and 23 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: it was so much fun talking about Australian horrors and 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: I learned loads today. Monty, you are welcome back on 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: this pod any day, my friend, to you the listener. 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Literally next week he kicks off a huge global tour. 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: He's already started it, but he's just got this chunk 28 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: of little time now back in Los Angeles, which is 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: why we were able to record this pod. But he's 30 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: during all over America, the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: then Australia from November. I believe he's in Australia. I'm 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: going to post all of the tour dates in the 33 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: show notes so that you can grab yourself a ticket. 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: Monte Franklin, You're wonderful, my friend. I'm so excited for 35 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: what's next for you, and I can't wait to do 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: more things with you and have you back on this 37 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: Potter Roony All right, gang, big love, hooru? How are you? 38 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: I wish everyone Gulzia T shirt. It's an old photo 39 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: of Heath Ledger looking like a legend. 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Isn't he the best episode? After he passed away. His 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: family set up a charity and this was, yeah, part 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: of it. And I have two of these because it's 43 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: my favorite T shirt in the entire world. 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: I want to get one. Can I go online and 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: get one on it? 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're still there. I'll find out 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: for you. 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: I'll find one. 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Isn't he the best? 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: Yeah? I still when I see pictures of him or 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: in movies and stuff, I feel very proud. That was 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: someone who made us proud. A lot of people make 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: Australians proud, but there's a few that you really like. 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Living Newton John and you just see a smile and 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: you just go, oh, I miss home in that smile. 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: And he's got that look in his eyes of just 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: mischief and fun and person and beach and set. Like 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: there's a lot that goes into that that the rest 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: of the world probably don't resonate as much as we 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: do with him. 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember the movie Ten Things I Had About You? 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I watched it recently. I watched it all the time, 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: like on planes. You know, you just go, I want 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: something easy that I like, and I'll watch that quite often. Yeah. 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: Apparently his audition, like he rolled in I don't know 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: if he was barefoot, but like he just rolled in 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: as Heath. 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw the audition. It's very charismatic. 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: And they said that. Actually the guy said he was 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: the last guy who came in on the day one 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: of those ones, and he said as soon as Heath 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: walked in, he just went, oh, there he is. Yeah, 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: And that's what auditions are like half the time. And 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: if you've been on both sides of the audition, either 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: auditioning or being the auditioner looking for the right person, 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: as soon as they walk in, you can't know because 77 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: you feel, yeah, if you're the writer of something, you've 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: had someone in your head for two, three years, whatever 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: it is, as soon as they walk in, you're like, 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: there they are. If they can even open their mouth 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: and speak, this is it. And they do and you go, oh, 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: got it, so oh it's kind of cool. But then 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: as when you're doing those auditions and you try your 84 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: best and you learn your lines and everything, and it 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: just comes down to someone else's vision in their head, 86 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: which is also fine. It's a creative process and sometimes 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: that works in your favor, and it has for me sometimes. 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: I remember I've gone into things and then walked out 89 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: and going I don't know if I did that right, 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: and they went, we love you, You're good this. 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 92 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: I remember I booked a big commercial job years ago 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: because I fit the wetsuit that they wanted and the 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: director wanted the wetsuit afterwards, and he was the same size. 95 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: That's why I booked, like this American in America. Yeah. 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: It was like a decent pain job, like thirty fifty grand, 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: like a big one, Oh my god. And so I 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: got it because I was the same size as the 99 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: director and he wanted the wetsuit afterwards. 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: I love that. 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to. 102 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: I got my first acting gig in a pilot at 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: the start of this year, like proper La and from 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: teaching yoga. Oh really, they came to my yoga class 105 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: and were like. 106 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Did they come seeking you or they just came and 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: they went. 108 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: And we were hanging a bit and working together a 109 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: bit at the yoga steo and then I was just 110 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: literally this friend was like, actually, you're going to be 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: my boss in this pilot. And then I got the 112 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: wrong I didn't audition. 113 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how a lot of things work. 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: That way, right, And then You're like, is that the thing? Like, 115 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: it's so strange. La is a beast, and you, my friend, 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: have been here longer than me. So I want to 117 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: unpack a bit of your journey. First of all, you've 118 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: been on the pod before for the Listener, episode three 119 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety, if you want to go back and 120 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: listen two years ago to the day. Pretty much, you 121 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: and I sat down together. 122 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: I made sure of that, did you know? But I 123 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: was like, well done. 124 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: And then a year before that, you shot, produced, wrote, 125 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: editor directed your own short, and I was an extra 126 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: in that. 127 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: I forgot about that, right, No, I forgot that I 128 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: did that until you just mentioned that again. I told you, 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: I've got so many things that I feel like one 130 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: of those guys spinning the plates, you know, and trying 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: to keep plates up. Yeah, and then someone reminds me 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: of a plate over there that I've forgotten about. Oh god, 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: that's right. 134 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: That we shot it in like some office in Santa Monica. 135 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: Show you the finish. It's really good. That was my filming. 136 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: Proud of what we did there. I wrote and directed, 137 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: and you know got I produced that whole thing, spent 138 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: the bit of money I don't know I probably spent 139 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: a few thousand dollars on something and then I kind 140 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: of just did it for myself. And that's the thing 141 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: about being in this creative industry. Sometimes you think, oh, well, 142 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid, so I'm not going to do it, 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: or I'm not going to do that. But so what 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: are you really doing it for? Do you love doing 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: what you're doing? Because I did that because I really 146 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: enjoyed it, and I like coming up with an idea 147 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: and then thinking whether I can make that happen on 148 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: the screen and see it. And I really went in 149 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: with the motivation of making that because I wanted to 150 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: sit down and see if I could do it. And 151 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: I did it, and I sat and watched it and 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: I went, that's pretty cool, and then I forgot to 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: show anyone. 154 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Do you know what else you told me when we 155 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: chatted last time. You really wanted to hone your skills 156 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: as an editor, and you were like, it was the 157 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: best way for me to like sharpen all those skills. 158 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: And then you said it's coming so handy because when 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm in a room now and an editor's like, no, no, 160 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: we can't do it that way, You're like, well, yeah, you. 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: Can exactly and I can go control alt this and 162 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: go you just do that. What the hell's Yeah, that's 163 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: that's a big lesson I've learned being in LA for 164 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: twelve years, being in in entertainment industry for twenty years. 165 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: Knowing all facets of what you're doing creatively is massively beneficial. 166 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: So don't ever think that you're wasting your time by Oh, 167 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't think I need to do an improv class. 168 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't need to do an editing class. I'm not 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: learn all of it, all of it because then the 170 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: day that you are in the room and someone questions 171 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: you and you have the knowledge and answer can answer it, 172 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: you feel you feel in control of what you're doing 173 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: a bit more, which is great. 174 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: It's this idea of I love this idea of like 175 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: being ready as well for those those instances, and if 176 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: you constantly work on the skill. 177 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing. And that's why you were teaching 178 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: yoga and someone said you were ready, right, So it's 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: about being in the right place at the right time, yes, 180 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: but also being prepared enough that when that opportunity comes 181 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: you go. You don't even hesitate, you go absolutely, let's 182 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: go let's go right now. 183 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: Have you This is going to be real nerdy theater stuff. 184 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm quite a theater talk. There's a famous Hamlet quote, 185 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: the readiness is. 186 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: All, The readiness is all. 187 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it actually means being always ready for death, like 188 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: living your life so that you're so like living it 189 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: that you're ready. 190 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: That's good. I mean that sound it sounds mormond, But 191 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: all that means is live your life like it's your 192 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: last day, Like live life to the full. That's all 193 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: it really means, isn't it right? But it's a morbid 194 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: way of saying it. 195 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: But it's a nice thing to think business wise, those 196 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: staying ready all the time, and like I think because 197 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I would call you a slashy in the best way, 198 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: like stand up comedian, writer, director, producer, actor. You've done 199 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: a lot of acting over the years, and it's like 200 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: if you're ready for one of those things to like 201 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: spark and got like you're being ready, as I think, 202 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: such a valuable tool to have, especially here in Los 203 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: Angeles where you're in the melting pot, so you can 204 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: get that call pretty quickly, like things can happen fast. 205 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: I kind of like being ready in that zone too. 206 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: I like being like, I will always say that I'm 207 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: fit enough that I'm six weeks out from being in 208 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: the best shape I've ever been, you know. Yeah, So 209 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: all it would take is me being real strict with 210 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: diet and then going a bit harder at the you know, 211 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: working out stuff, and I will be in the best 212 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: that I've ever been in my life six weeks out. 213 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: So it's always being ready so you don't have to 214 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: live your life I'm always in your best shape, because 215 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. If you see any one who competitively bodybuilds 216 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: or anything like that, they walk around not at their 217 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: best shape at all. 218 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Ever, there's fighting weight, and then there's rate. 219 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: Wait, there's where you are sort of sitting at most 220 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: of the time. So being that way with all facets 221 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: of your life and just being ready and when the 222 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: opportunities come, knowing which ones are the ones to put 223 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: your energy and effort into, know when to go, this 224 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: is a good one. Let's put some energy into that. 225 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: And also giving yourself you also need to live. I 226 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: did that for a lot of the years when I 227 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: was first here, thinking oh no, I can't do that. 228 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: I need to be here, and doing the stand up 229 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: clubs and holy whatever like that. But now I've realized 230 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: it's actually much more beneficial for me if I've got 231 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: the time to go on a trip. I just went 232 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: on a surfing trip to Indonesia for six weeks, right, 233 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: and my whole mentality changed. I was running on a 234 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: much better cathartic rhythm within myself. I got some good 235 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: stories to talk about on stage, so you're not just 236 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: talking about hotel rooms and airline peanuts. You've got other 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: things to talk about in your life. So balance. That's 238 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: something very hard to handle and figure out, is balance. 239 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: But I think I've been pretty good at figuring that 240 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: out since COVID. 241 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: I'd say, well, also, when you and I last run 242 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: into each other was the weekend and you were like, 243 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: I literally landed from Hawaii, I think that morning. I 244 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: know you'd been there back. 245 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: At one am that night, and then came and we 246 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: went to the Australian Christmas Party on Santa Monica Pier. 247 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: But you'd been I know you'd been touring in Hawaii 248 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: because I saw some interviews you did on like Hawaii 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: in television that was hilarious. But so I think you did. 250 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: You toured, you were working, but you also made sure 251 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: you had three days to like soak up a bit 252 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: of Hawaii and all that as well. 253 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: I was excited about that because I'd just done a 254 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: run of I did Phoenix, Seattle, Portland, sanfran over to Hawaii, 255 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: right and it was one after the other each night. 256 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: I didn't have much time in each place, but I thought, 257 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: you know what, Hawaii is a good place to have 258 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: a few days. So I did and I just sort 259 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: of I went surfing and I ate some good food 260 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: and I did my show, but I didn't it didn't 261 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: consume me. I let life sort of exist there too. 262 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: But I think in hindsight, hawaiki ki in Hawaii is 263 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: for couples and families. So and I'm moved by mysel 264 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh it is completely really that's all that were there. 265 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: And so I'm there by myself at sunset having to 266 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: drink and there's people in love and everything, and I'm like, 267 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: that wasn't the right place spend some time. 268 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I've got a hot tip for you next 269 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: time you because I know you're a surfer. If you 270 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: do a Maldives or Maldives I don't know how to 271 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: say it trip because a lot of people go there 272 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: for surfing. 273 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: It's two years ago. 274 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: Do Maldoves trip, right, I feel like that is romantic. 275 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Af No, No, because I go on always surfing trip 276 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: with twelve other dudes and there is no romance. 277 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: So you're not staying on those overwater bungalow situations. 278 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: Okay, there's two different people traveling to the Maldives, right, 279 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: it's a very honeymoon destination. I want to be on 280 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: the bungalow out on the water and be with my 281 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: beloved and then there is boats filled with surfer dudes 282 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: that just talk about surfing and eat good food and 283 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: it's the greatest thing that I do in my life. Oh, 284 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: I love it so much. 285 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: You stay on the boat. 286 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: You stay on the boat for like twelve nights, let's say, right, 287 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: and they're huge boats and everyone's got their own room 288 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: and you all you do all day. You wake up, 289 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: you go surfing with the whole crew on the boat 290 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: and there's usually other people. I went this time with 291 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: about four people, five people that I knew from Australia, 292 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: but then there was two guys from Israel on there. 293 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: There was a couple of Brazilians, you know, but everyone 294 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: shares the same collective love of surfing. So we all 295 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: just talk about surfing. And so you surf, you eat breakfast, 296 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: you talk about how that surf was, and then you 297 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: go for another surf, and then you have lunch and 298 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: you talk about that. You have a bit of a 299 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: sleep or something. Then you have an afternoon evening surf 300 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: and then you watch because they come out and film 301 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: you all day, so then you watch the footage and 302 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: you laugh at your mate from Brazil who fell over 303 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: or you fell over, and you know, and then and 304 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: then you go to bed and you do it again. 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Twelve times. 306 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: I swam with whale sharks and I wasia h was 307 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: not on the agenda at all. 308 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, there is nothing else. Someone goes fishing 309 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: for an afternoon and you go, what do you do 310 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: that for? And they go, I don't know, I wanted 311 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: to try something different, and then you go surfing again. 312 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Amaze. 313 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: That's all it is. It's the funniest group of and 314 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: converse sas because if anyone came on that didn't surf, 315 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: they would have probably a terrible time because every conversation 316 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: is but surf. 317 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I love. 318 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: It's so much time. 319 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated as well, if you're a creative like you 320 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: and I have talked about so many amazing products you've 321 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: had over the years, and you've been in that like hustle, go, go, go, actor, writer, produce, 322 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: all that kind of you've worn all of those hats 323 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: and being creative. I imagine having an outlet like surfing is 324 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of important to fill that cup because LA can 325 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: burn you out a little bit, very much. 326 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: So, I mean everything can burn you out, but LA 327 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: in particular. You know what, I don't surf here in La, 328 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: So I don't like in a morning, won't get that 329 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: release or something of that because it's so hectic here, traffic, driving, 330 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: getting in the water. There's so many people this it's 331 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: not that good. You're scraunging around for waves. It actually 332 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: took away from what you're saying. I wasn't relaxing. It's 333 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: like going to yoga class and being angry, like it 334 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: wasn't working the way that it was meant to. Yeah, 335 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: so I said to myself, you know, you don't try 336 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: and push, you don't surf, you know, like that's all right. Yeah, 337 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: you go on a couple of big surf trips a year. 338 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: When you're back in Australia, you surf and you go 339 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: to Barley and you surf, and that's fine. And when 340 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: I lived down in San Diego, I surfed, but that 341 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: was not doing what you're saying, which is that outlet. 342 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: But going on one of these trips, I can completely 343 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: I don't even look at my phone, I don't even 344 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: worry about anything. Yeah, and I recharge the battery completely, 345 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: and that is very very important to. 346 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: Do, I think as well, because you write a lot 347 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: of your own content. Well you write your own content, 348 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: but also like you work on feature screenplays and stuff 349 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: like that. In order to have that like vessel fuck 350 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: and firing and working, I think you need that kind 351 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: of like, okay, well this is my I. 352 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Thought about going and doing one of the Ayahuascar things, right, 353 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: it's just sort of clearing out and stuff. And I 354 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: realized I get that same thing from going on a 355 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: surf trip, and so I treat that as a mental 356 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: cleanse as. It's funny because on the first few days 357 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: I can feel myself still holding onto things. Yeah, but 358 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: maybe I should. And then after a while you go, 359 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: I don't even care about that. You care about that 360 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: so much, And then you get back into that rhythm 361 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: and stuff. But yeah, you need those those outlets. You 362 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: need life. You need to remember to live your life. 363 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: If you're trying to be a creative running around just 364 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: fulfilling the requirements you think you meant to as a creative, 365 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: you will be quite dull. You need to be interesting. 366 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: I want to hear your story. I want to hear 367 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: your life story. I don't want to hear about how 368 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: you paid your taxes on time and I mean also important. 369 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Don't tell me about it. I don't to hear about it, 370 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: just do it. 371 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: It is fascinating because last time we spoke, we talked 372 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: about like work ethic quite a bit, and like the 373 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: Iceberg method, where like the real one sees is like 374 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: ten percent of like Monty Franklin to ring, you know, 375 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: over a billion views on like talking about an EMU 376 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: war in Australia, you know, like and you see all 377 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: these kind of like super what we would deem in 378 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: today's very digital world of like big successes. And it's 379 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: just it's good to hear you talk about like the yes, 380 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: the need to switch off. But I want to talk 381 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: to you about like your work ethic, because I think 382 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: that you having spent a little bit of time with you. 383 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: Now I think you must have a pretty flipping phenomenal 384 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: work ethic, because a lot of Aussies do come out 385 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: here dip the toe in the water. It's pretty hard, 386 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: it's a little bit brutal. Sometimes got a bit of 387 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: a career in Australia. It doesn't really matter. You got 388 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: to really prove yourself. But you're someone that's stuck it out. 389 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: And you gave me the advice. You were like, Lord, 390 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: stop just coming for a few months of the year 391 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: or doing half and half. You were like, you have 392 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: to lock in. You have to do the time like 393 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: you have to. 394 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: You have to got that, and that is there is 395 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people that come dip the toe in 396 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: and then run back to the safety net. If you 397 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: want to come here to the belly of the beast, 398 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: you have to release the safety net and you have 399 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: to commit to being here and embracing it fully. And 400 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: that's scary, scary to give up work that you have 401 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: back in Australia. Everything like that, and that is why 402 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: we have such a good name here in the industry 403 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: in entertainment. Everywhere you go in any facet and they go, oh, 404 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: my god, Australians are great. They have great work ethic 405 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: because we do. We have a nine to five, you know, 406 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: work rest, play mars a day, but we do. We 407 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: grew up with that. It's a work or you also 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: play hard, but you also you get your sleep. And like, 409 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: we're very good at that. So the ones that come 410 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: over with that work ethic in mind and stick it 411 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: out and stay because it's not easy coming here. You 412 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: have to. It sounds ridiculous, but even just getting a 413 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: bank account is getting to social secure and getting your drivers, 414 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: like you have to sit your driver's license again, you 415 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: have to drive around. Fail. 416 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I failed my first one? 417 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Did you? 418 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: They've written, my friend, I failed? 419 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: The written well, yeah you think I know this, I've 420 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: driven and you're like, oh yeah, you do all these 421 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: things again. And so the people that don't commit and 422 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: go through with that are usually the ones that aren't 423 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: going to work. Is hard to do it. So the 424 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: ones who stick it out and stay here are very 425 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: good at what they do. And that's why we have 426 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: Margo and the Hymnsworth Boys and you Jackman it all 427 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: like all these people that everyone goes, why are you 428 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: guys so great? And you go because it's really hard 429 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: to get over here from where we are, and so 430 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: the ones that stick it out and stay are really 431 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: fucking good. 432 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's that resilience piece as well. Have just 433 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: been like and we talked about this last time, but 434 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: like being able to drop the ego of like you 435 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: might know that you've got the skill, like you would 436 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: have had so many years behind you as an amazing 437 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: stand up. You've done shows in Australia, like you were 438 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: top of the top of your game in Australia, and 439 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: then you come here and because Americans don't know you, yep, 440 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: like you were having to buy a ticket to go 441 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: to a comedy club before you could get the opportunity 442 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: to get on that stage. 443 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: Beer ego, beer g ego. Check. And once you can 444 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: come to terms with that and go what am I 445 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: actually again? What am I actually doing here? Do I 446 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: want to create? Do I want to make things for people? 447 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: Do I want people to love and me and indulge me? 448 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: Then go back and be on you know, farmer wants 449 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: a wife or whatever is the new love? At first 450 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: Farmer's site, some crap, it's being spat out, and then 451 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 2: go to the bird cage at the Flemington Races and 452 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: tell everyone that you're on TV. But if you want 453 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: to actually create and do things for people and stuff, 454 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: you commit to coming out here. You suck up your 455 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: ego and you get into the zeitgeist of what's going 456 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: on here. You meet people. This is what you met 457 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: someone at yoga class who gave you a thing. You 458 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: might meet someone at a coffee shop here who's a 459 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: very creative something and also balances out your thing. I 460 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: didn't know how to do that. Let's team up and 461 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: what do you think about that. Let's make that. Let's 462 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: make things. There's a lot of people here that want 463 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: to create and make There's also a lot of people 464 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: that want people to look at them. So weeding out 465 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: which which side do you want to sit on? You 466 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: can be someone who just wants to be looked at, 467 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: but you're going to fall into There is a lot 468 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: of them. Do you know. There's like a it's an 469 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: actual group of people here that have been on like 470 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: the Love Island and that, this and that. They've all 471 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: been on each one three or four times because they're 472 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: all part of this group of Let's say there's three 473 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: hundred people walking around in la that are part of 474 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: this reality island Fuckfest show. Yeah it is. 475 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: It's wild, yeah. 476 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: And they all go to the same parties and it's 477 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: weird and I don't want anything to do with that. 478 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Even seeing you at the Australian 479 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: in La thing, like it was so fascinating because I 480 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh, friend, and I do you because like 481 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: it's hard. There's a lot it kind of like really 482 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: big events. I'm like, I need to find the real 483 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: I need to find the real where I know, like 484 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: I can just be. I get to be real with 485 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes sense. Like events, I'm 486 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: quite anxious before event. 487 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: People think I'm antisocial and like socially inept because they, oh, 488 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: you don't know how to act around people, and I go, no, 489 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: I just I don't feel the need to go up 490 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: to everyone and go, whow what do you do it 491 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: like that. I don't feel the need anymore to do that. 492 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: I remember when I was first he thinking I had 493 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: to or I have to tell everyone what I do 494 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: so they think I'm great stuff. I don't care anymore. 495 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't care it's not and I care about what 496 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: I do. I don't care about impressing random people, so 497 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: I don't feel the need to do it. So I'm 498 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: more than happy to sit down at an event like 499 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 2: that and quietly eat the food and think about if 500 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: it's nice or not, rather than needing to go around 501 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: and present yourself and sell yourself and do the thing 502 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. I don't care about 503 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: it anymore. 504 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: But that's what's I think that's what's very refreshing about 505 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: you as a person. You're just like, this is who 506 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: I am. I'm going to do shit that makes me 507 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: feel really good as far as I lit up creatively 508 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: and take it or leave it, And I think that's 509 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: a really great. 510 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: Do you want to know something? And I don't want 511 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: this to sound arrogant, but I am confident in what 512 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: I've done and what I've got coming up that I 513 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: don't need to sell myself if someone asks me, I've 514 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: got a pretty good bloody story to tell you if 515 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: you want to know, but I don't need to go 516 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: around selling it. And so if someone comes up and says, oh, 517 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: what do you do and I say, oh, I'm a comedian, 518 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: and they go, oh, do you work at the local thing? 519 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: And I go no, Actually, I'm on a World Tour. 520 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: Right now, that goes like it's nice that I'm at 521 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: a point in my career where I'm proud about what 522 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: I've done that if asked about it, I actually have 523 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: a decent thing to say, and that I think that 524 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: confidence gives you ownership of yourself, of what you're doing 525 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: and everything to sit there in silence. 526 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: And I rounded confidence. It's not that like airy the 527 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: way we were talking about like reality stars say nothing 528 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: as reality stars like courses for courses, but like there's 529 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: a groundedness in like I've done the work, I know 530 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: my skill is there like that is few decades, yeah, 531 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: especially of a comedian, And I think it's like knowing 532 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: that and like trusting in yourself a bit. I also 533 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: think it comes with age. I'm thirty nine, and I 534 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: know now I give such less of a shit about 535 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: what people think of me than say, even like five 536 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: years ago. 537 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it? Because it's not that I don't care. 538 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: I want you to. I want you to think highly 539 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: of me. Everyone does. Yeah, I just don't find myself 540 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: needing that gratification as much as I might have in 541 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: my twenties, or needing to know that you Yeah, I 542 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: hope they thought I was good enough. Yeah, that crowd 543 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: liked me enough. That's something extrinsic. Val picture is not 544 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: your thing. Anyway. When I do stand up, I know 545 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: I've done a good show. I know the audience has 546 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: felt good, and I feel good. I feel good. I 547 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: don't need afterwards to say to anyone, what did you think? 548 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: Did you like it? 549 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 550 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: Like I don't do that anymore because I don't I know. 551 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: I know if it was a good show, yeah, I know. 552 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: If it was a bad would it was rough? 553 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: Yeah? But that I mean, that's what is so amazing 554 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: about stand up means. I feel like every night you're 555 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: going out there, it's like. 556 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: The instance, you instantly get a feel for how you are, 557 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: what that joke was, what that means, Like, there's instant feedback, feedback, 558 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: exactly what it is. 559 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: In preparation with this, I watched one of your show 560 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: that you did in America and then a show you 561 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: did in Australia, because I was like, I've got to 562 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: see how you are the two different audiences, because your 563 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: content online is very much about like the differences, like 564 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: being in Australian living in America, and you made me 565 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: refall in love with the phrase stop piss fighting around. 566 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: Isn't It's such a funny fit, Like there's so many 567 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 2: funny phrases we casually just throw around. 568 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I had no idea that hippip hoay 569 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: was an Australian thing after we see Happy Birthday. 570 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that one blew up fairly big online. And 571 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: the Brazilians do it, and a few other people do it, 572 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: but they do it in different ways. The Germans wrote 573 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: to they all right and they go we do that. 574 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: We just go hip ah, like they just do it 575 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: slightly differently. Yeah, there's all these different ones around the world. 576 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: It would originate then. 577 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't gone into this. That's so fascinating, 578 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure. But yeah, the you know what, 579 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: I feel like the difference sometimes with the way that 580 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: I do stand up in America and Australia. I feel 581 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: like sometimes in Australia, I'm I'm talking with a closer friend. Yeah, 582 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm very I mean, I've been doing this for twenty 583 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: plus years. I'm very comfortable on stage. I know how 584 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: to talk with an audience and everything like that. But 585 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: when I'm in Australia, I almost feel like I'm I'm 586 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: closer and I have a more secondhand. They'd be that 587 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: shorthand a little bit yeah, and I can almost say, hey, also, 588 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: did you like as opposed to in America, where sometimes 589 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: I go and what you think about this is actually that, 590 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: But in Australia, it's more like get this, yes, you 591 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's a little bit more like 592 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 2: I'm having a beer at the pub with a friend 593 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: and talking a bit easier. 594 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: In Australia, I had no idea about the witch's hats 595 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: thing either. That's like one of your things that's totally 596 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: blown up. 597 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: It's so funny that we call it them witches hats 598 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: like traffic cones, but just because they look like the 599 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: hat of a witch. And the funniest is, like, you know, 600 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: builders on building sites in Australia, like, can we grab 601 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: six witches hats? 602 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: Like totally it's just the norm, Like we would not. 603 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: Think, yeah, you don't think that that's a weird thing. 604 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: Whipper snipper people found. 605 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: We whack a whipper snipper. I had a big meeting 606 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: with an agent here when I first got here, and 607 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: it just fucking dragged on. It was literally like five 608 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: over five months. I had to go back in and back, 609 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: and by the end of it, I was like, I 610 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: got nothing to lose, and they go, so, you know, 611 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: what's your goal? Why are you're here? Do you want kids? 612 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Were asking really deep questions. I might this is for 613 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: acting representation? 614 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Do you want kids? 615 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: By the end? My age, by the end, I go, listen, 616 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm not hit of fuck spiders, Okay, And that's what 617 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: that's how they signed me. They called me up an 618 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: hour later and they're like, Laula, we're not hit a 619 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: fox spaders. Really. Yeah. 620 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: See, that's the kind of thing that Heath Ledger walked 621 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: in and said and got him the wrong. 622 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Right, it's being. 623 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: Unashamably yourself and make it. Then that's interesting, and that 624 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: is that's I mean. My social media has blown up 625 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: in the last two three years. 626 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah. 627 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: Before that, I was like everyone trying things and all 628 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: people like this and maybe that's what will strike a chord. 629 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: And then I started doing things that I actually found 630 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: funny myself, but I thought were interesting because every day 631 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: here in America, as you know, you say something that 632 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: someone looks at you sideways and goes, what is that? 633 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: And you go, that's a very normal thing to say, 634 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? And then so I just started 635 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: saying them online and then people just started sharing them, 636 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: and then it started this thing. And I still liked 637 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: doing them. If I wasn't if I was doing them 638 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: at any stage, if I think, oh, I'm doing this 639 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: because I think that's what they need, it never works. 640 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: And so sometimes I'll go a couple of weeks without 641 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: doing them because I just I'm not feeling anything. But 642 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: then something comes and I go, ah, I'm going to 643 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: do that one. That's funny. I'm going to do one 644 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: about that. It's so good. 645 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun to consume your content 646 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: because it does feel like it genuinely is something that 647 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: comes from you and it's just through your life experience 648 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: and it's real. 649 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: I've always been a very patriotic Australia and I love Australia. 650 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: I love Australian mounds, Melvis Boy, Melbury's Boy. 651 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: Yes. 652 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: But I lived on the Gold Coast, so I traveled 653 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: all around Australia doing stand up. I did the mining 654 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: camps in West Australia and the territory. I've been to 655 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: the Rock, have been everywhere, and I love our country 656 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 2: and our culture and what that is to me, like 657 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: I was saying, is a is a smile from Olivia 658 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: Newton John and an existence there where people there's a 659 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: genuine care in Australia. Do you know what is the best? 660 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: I walked into a bakery and got a sandwich at 661 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: a bakery. You don't get astra in Australia. You don't 662 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: get that in America. You don't go and get a 663 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: sandwich a salad sandwich at the bakery. And the lady said, 664 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: where where are you coming from? And I said I 665 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: actually live in la And she went oh and was like, oh, 666 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: God's very dangerous over there. And I'm like, no, it's 667 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: all right. And then she made my sandwich and she's 668 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: asking these questions. At the end she goes, now you 669 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: take care of yourself over there in l A. Okay, 670 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 2: Like just some random lady at the bakery who genuinely 671 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: wanted me to take care of myself. She wasn't just 672 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: saying it. A lot of times Americans will be like, 673 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: have a nice day, I help you have a great travels. Yeah, yeah, okay, 674 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: you just said the thing you were meant to say. 675 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: She thought about me later that day. I hope it's 676 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: okay now, you know, you know what I mean? 677 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do like that care it does. 678 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: It does exist still. 679 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: The one thing, and I know we can we can 680 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: bang on all day about American Versustraia. It's so funny 681 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: that like the amount of Americans will be like, oh 682 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: my god, as is just so dangerous. Spiders can you 683 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: play them? 684 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: Everything that is a snake jumping out at you a spider. 685 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And I have lived in Byron Bay for a lot 686 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: of the time. You know, you'll have a python in 687 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: your backyard. Probs, that's super normal. Whip snakes like it's 688 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: part of it. Yeah, And like old showmates here videos 689 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, I'm never, I'm never, And I'm like, 690 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't bite you, like if you've got a cat 691 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: or dogs. Yeah, be careful. 692 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: It is when you think about it, though. We grew 693 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: up in a dangerous place where we know. I don't 694 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: walk through the tall grass, you know, not to do 695 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: you know, not to swim in that. You know the 696 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: current is no, don't swim over there or at the 697 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 2: river mouth. No, there's probably sharks everywhere. We know all 698 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: these things, right, so despite the fact that there is 699 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: danger everywhere, we have an in built radar to navigate 700 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: through that Americans don't. So you can see from their 701 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: perspective that what do you mean, there's a jellyfish that 702 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: will keep you gets all right? Toning up north, You're 703 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: gonna be fine, and you know, we know that. They 704 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: don't know that. So for them, it is a crazy 705 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: place where everything will kill you. And the truth is 706 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: it's a crazy place where everything can kill you. It's 707 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: just we know not to step left there, step right there. 708 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: That's as simple as it is. Yeah, because there is 709 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: a huntsman in your roof, but you know he's not 710 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: going to hurt you. Yeah, he's going to move when 711 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: the rain goes, and he's going to be back outside. 712 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: He's not a shark at the post office like the Americans. 713 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: What shark? We can come up with fantasies in the head, 714 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: but it's not that far fetched. It's just we are 715 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: accustomed to know where the danger is. 716 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: Question. This is going to feel really off topic. I 717 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: every time I interview a surfer, I have to ask 718 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: have you seen sharks? When you serve. 719 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely I've hit a shark? Was yeah, I like to 720 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: say I punched it, but I didn't. It was an 721 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: open faced slap that one. 722 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Again. 723 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: Mick Fanning did that for us, but it was similar 724 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: to the MiG Fanning thing. I was out surfing on 725 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: the Gold Coast sunset, that's when sharks I should have 726 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: gone in. It was me and an old guy. He 727 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: was about twenty twenty meters away from me, and a 728 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: shark popped up between us. And the shark was massive, 729 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: like the fin was like a foot and a half. 730 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: The shark would have been over ten feet. 731 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: Like a white point. Do you reckon? 732 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: Like probably a gray nurse up there. But I panicked 733 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: and went and hit the shark like a terrible slap, 734 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: and then paddled in and I looked out to the 735 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: ocean and it was flat, and I thought, I know 736 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: the old guy's been killed. I left him out there 737 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: to die. And then I looked on the beach and 738 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: he was running down the beach. He'd beat me in. 739 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: He was even quicker into the beach than me. I've 740 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: had another time I was surfing over Stradbroke Island, which 741 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: is like, yeah, that's. 742 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: Because it's got a bit deep near there, isn't it. 743 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's that. And then North Stradbroke Island is a 744 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: feeding and a breeding ground yeah for sharks, so there's 745 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: tons of them. And I looked over at my mate, 746 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: who never paddles very fast. He's kind of a slower guy, 747 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: and I looked at his paddling so fast. I'm like, 748 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: what are you doing? He's just time to go. 749 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: In Stratia, I've heard stories. 750 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Strati is probably that. And like over in 751 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: Perth and then around the where the Great Australian Bite is, 752 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot of sharks and stuff like that. But 753 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of them. Yeah. 754 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: Well, okay, one thing just on the shark thing, because 755 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: I can talk about sharks all day long, like I want. 756 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: To get a shark tatoo, I want to get a 757 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: shark love to. 758 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: But there is a movie that was all shot in 759 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: Queensland called Dangerous Animals. It came out about two months 760 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: ago premieric Can and all of that Australian like actors 761 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: everything as Jay Courtney is the lead psychopath and he 762 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: takes people out on shark diving tours and fees him too. 763 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: The shot. Yeah, but it's all shot like Strati, like 764 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: all in the Goldie Good. 765 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: That'll help our reputation worldwide. 766 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: In shark horror. But you should. You should just see 767 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: it for like you'll be like, surf there, surf there, 768 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: You'll love it. 769 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's great. 770 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 771 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: Jai Courtney's unreal too. 772 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: By the way, he plays a phenomenal serial killer. Yeah, 773 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: crazy Eyes perfectly. 774 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: We do that well in Australia, the serial killer, I mean, 775 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: Wolf Creek and everything like that. We do horror very 776 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: well in Australia. I mean the sore guys are all Australian. 777 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that that all of 778 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: that stuff that was Blumhouse and all that is James 779 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: Wan and Lee Wenell who did Soar Yeah, which was groundbreaking, 780 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: and now they you know, they sort of have this empire. 781 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: But my uncle dad to tell you that my uncle 782 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: did horror films. 783 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: Nice. 784 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: So my uncle was a director. He did he worked 785 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 2: under Hitchcock, so he did Psycho two and he did 786 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: what was it? It was Road Games, I think was 787 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 2: one of Quentin Tarantino's favorite movies. So when my grandpa, 788 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: my uncle passed away about fifteen years ago, Quentin Tarantino 789 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: wrote a huge eulogy that we read out at the funeral. 790 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: He didn't come to the funerals in Australia, but it 791 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: was he was one of his favorite directors because my 792 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: uncle worked for, like I said, under Hitchcock. He did 793 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: Blue Lagoon. That was his biggest one. Not a horror, 794 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: but you probably know them. 795 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 796 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: But so there's there was this horror in Australia, this 797 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: sort of research, a lot of resurgence that started in 798 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 2: the seventies and stuff. There's a really good documentary on 799 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: it called Not Quite Hollywood. It explains all about it. 800 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: And so then this other resurgence came in when Saw 801 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: came in the what do you reckon to two thousand. 802 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: Early yeah, I would say two thousands, very early two 803 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: thousand yeah. 804 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: And then all these other ones came like the Babbadoo 805 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: Can and then Wolf Creek Can, all these. So we've 806 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: always done horror with it really well. What we've struggled 807 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: to do globally well is comedy, which is strange because 808 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: we are a very funny bunch of people. But comedy 809 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 2: we honestly bar a few other ones. And I'm sorry 810 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: because there's tons of them, and theah they're good. The 811 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: last really great worldwide comedy we had was Crocodile. 812 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: Dundee, and I knew you were going to say that. 813 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I've been to forty three states in this country. 814 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: Everyone says, oh my god, I love Crocodile Dundee, and 815 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm proud of that. But I'm like, you know what, 816 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: it's time for you guys to get another taste of 817 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: the kind of comedy we should be making, the kind 818 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: of comedies that Richard Curtis makes in England, like The 819 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: Love Actually, all of those sort of romantic ones with 820 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 2: Hugh Grants and stuff like that. There is no reason 821 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: that we should not be on the same level of 822 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 2: comedy and intellectual humor. What happens sometimes is we fall 823 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: into the trap of bogan humor, which is very funny, 824 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: or we get two colloquial lies and do the Castle, 825 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: which we all loved, but it does not travel because 826 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: they don't know what scoopa down o the punt. It 827 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 2: means they don't know what you know Jumanji and twist 828 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: that they don't get it like we do. Okay, so 829 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: it's almost like and Captain Kim didn't work over here, 830 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: same thing, right, So there is a there is a 831 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 2: market in this is where I come in. So there 832 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: is a new you know what Tiger Wytt brought New 833 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: Zealand comedy to the world, didn't he And now everyone 834 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: loves that quirkiness and that edging fun. Right, So we 835 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: as Australians, I think it's time for us to sort 836 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: of not rebrand, but just a re fresher of what 837 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: Crocodile done it because if you watch that again, it 838 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 2: is still great. It is unreal because I'll tell you 839 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: the one reason I think that it works still is 840 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 2: because he knows he's full of shit. You know when 841 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: he looks at the sun and then he looks at 842 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: him watch and then he goes on it's twelve plus 843 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 2: thing and the smile on his face. He goes and 844 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm full of shit. But she doesn't like it. And 845 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: so as Australians were like, yeah, that's basically whatever it 846 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 2: does in the country is just takes the bis and 847 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: then and so that endearing character that he brought to 848 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: the world still exists around in Australia and stuff like that. 849 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: But some people think that it's gone because politics has 850 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 2: such a big day to day in everyone's lives and 851 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: oh but with this now and with that, we're still 852 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: a great bunch of people. I'm telling you, we are 853 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: a beautiful bunch of people. And when you go home 854 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 2: and you and you sit and you talk with someone 855 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: at a pub and you just remember, there's some good, 856 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 2: kind hearted people here. The world is ready and Australia 857 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: is prepared to showcase our nature, our beauty and our 858 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: humor and the way that we can do it intellectually 859 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: as well. They're ready for it again. 860 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: So yes, can you share a tiny bit about your absolute. 861 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: I've I wrote a movie with Rob Schneider and John Clevees. 862 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: Can you write in like Scottsdale, Arizona. 863 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: During COVID during lockdown? And we all just bunk it 864 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: in a house together and wrote. Jim Jeffries came out 865 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: and wrote with us, and so yeah, we wrote about 866 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: the Ema war that happened in nineteen thirty two. So 867 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: for those who don't know true story, you can look 868 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: it up. Nineteen thirty two, the Australian government went to 869 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: war with the EMUs. There was twenty thousand EMUs running 870 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: through an air in Western Australia, tearing up farmers crops. 871 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: So the army came in with tanks and machine guns 872 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: and went to war with the EMUs and they lost. 873 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: The Emmys were too quick. They ran circles around the army, 874 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: They blew a truck trying to chase them, they jammed guns, 875 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: they made fools of themselves. So we have written what 876 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 2: is actually in the end a very very heartfelt, beautiful 877 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 2: story about a father and son really coming to terms 878 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: with themselves with each other, all on the backdrop of 879 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: fighting these unknowing the EMUs don't know there at war, 880 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: this unknowing enemy that is actually beating them severely and 881 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: making them look foolish. And then they kind of they 882 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: see the beauty in these animals, in this creation in 883 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 2: the land, and then change and work together with nature 884 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: and the land, and the land plays a big part too. 885 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 2: That's a big part about Australia that nowhere else in 886 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: the world has. Having said that, other places are pretty 887 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: exciting and different. Alaska's crazy and awesome. You know, there's 888 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 2: beautiful place in the world, but there's nowhere like Australia. 889 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: We have a different ecosystem and then anywhere else in 890 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: the world. That's why we have the first most stringent customs. 891 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: We have animals that don't exist anywhere else in the world. 892 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: That could be argued about Africa as well, but we're 893 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: talking about Australia now, so shut up. And so to 894 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 2: showcase that land and that has a big character in 895 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: the movie too, and then the EMUs do because they 896 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: inhabited that land for thousands and thousands and thousands of 897 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: years well before any of us and stuff. So there's 898 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: a beauty to that. And then so yeah, the Great 899 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 2: Emy War that we are filming in Australia next year 900 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 2: is going to and I used to say I hope 901 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: he's going to and now I've changed it too, is 902 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: going to give the world that beauty, that charm, that humor, 903 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: that that fun that they got from Crocodile Dundee, that 904 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 2: they got from Babe, that they got from Happy Feet. 905 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: Was it made in Australia. No, these film loved And 906 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 2: what Steve Irwin was in Happy Feet, Yeah, of course 907 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: he was, he had Happy Feet. But what Heath Ledger brought, 908 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: well that again to bring to the forefront of everyone, 909 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 2: for the world to fall in love with again and 910 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 2: for Australians to be very proud of again. So it's 911 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: very exciting. 912 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be unreal. Yeah, it's going to 913 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: be so good. I'm really proud of you. Thank you, 914 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited for you. I can't wait for 915 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: We'll have to do another pod. Oh definitely, and give 916 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: me updates along the way. I'm so pumped. 917 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 2: Oh well, we'll let you know for sure. 918 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be unreal. And you're doing it. You're 919 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: doing the thing, which I love. Can we talk now 920 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: about your global domination as far as your world tour? 921 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: Like when we caught up on the weekend, we were 922 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: talking about that, We're talking about your movie. Then we 923 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: were talking about the pod and and I was like, yeah, 924 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: of course I come on back like love having you 925 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: on the pod, and You're like yeah, so it's got 926 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: to happen in the next week. 927 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 928 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: What do you mean? And You're like, well, I start 929 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: doing and I went on your website. You literally start 930 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: during is it like the first of August. 931 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: I've been touring. Yeah, but I'm doing the US and 932 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: so this is how it works. I start the shows 933 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: in comedy clubs and by the time I get to 934 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 2: Australia back in the thing, I do the big theaters. 935 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 2: So it's like a build up of bigger and bigger 936 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: and bigger and bigger till you get to the big 937 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 2: theaters in Australia. And so I've been the last couple 938 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 2: of months like San Diego, Chicago, Denver, all the big ones. 939 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: And then I've got a week off now in La 940 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: so I'm just sort of doing the pod. Yeah, and 941 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: then you know, hanging out with my sister and my 942 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: niece and nephew and stuff and doing that. And then 943 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 2: I go back. I do Canada, and then I do 944 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: the East Coast. I do like New York, Philly, Boston, 945 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: all those sort of ones, and then I go over 946 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 2: and do UK Europe. I do about twoty this. Yeah, 947 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing Zerich and Geneva this time. Like I don't 948 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: know why I've got Japan. I'm doing Japan for the 949 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 2: first time. I'm doing Bali and Thailand and Hong Kong, 950 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: Singapore and then yeah, and then I head back down 951 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: to Australia doing New Zealand for the first time. I've 952 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 2: never done New Zealand, so that'll be. 953 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: It's got a huge comedy. New Zealand is like a 954 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: huge comedy. Yeah, Like some of the if you think 955 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: of some of the big oz like what we call 956 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: Oussie comedians. So many of them are Keeway's, like the 957 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: ones dominating in Australia. 958 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 2: Derby in our movie too, Yes I did read that. Yeah, 959 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 2: so yeah, and all Tiger and all those guys I 960 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 2: mean New Zealand. Yeah, fantastic an Sax what I like. Yeah, 961 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: but yeah, so it is a it's a lot though, 962 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm in Paris for the night and then I'm 963 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 2: in think for like I won't experience my I'll do 964 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: one thing in each place type thing. I'll look at 965 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: the Eiffel Tower and go there it is, and then 966 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 2: I'll go and do the show. 967 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: I've got a massive crush on Mumford and Sons. You 968 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: know the band. You're a millennial, You've got the similar 969 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: age and I we went and saw them at the 970 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl. But apparently because they true so they're touring 971 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: right now, and they tour and his whole thing is 972 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: no matter if they're in a place for just like 973 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: one night, they have to walk like they get out 974 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: and walk to like live it's the best, get the smells, 975 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: like get air. 976 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 2: But that's why some of these cities made for that 977 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 2: walk cities. Amsterdam's great Copenhagen was awesome. Just walk cities. 978 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 2: There's ones that are La is. 979 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: Not a walk obviously, so yeah. 980 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 2: They're ones that are walk cities great, the ones that 981 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: you know if you go to and you just ask, 982 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: what's the thing I need to see? Like when I 983 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 2: was in Seattle. There's a mount there, a mountain called 984 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: Mount rain or sorry forgetting that wrong. Seattle people, I 985 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: called it Mount Fuji, but it's this huge mountain and 986 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: they said, yeah, you could go out there for the day. 987 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 2: And I go, I'm going to do that, and they go, well, 988 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: the best place to see it is from here. So 989 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: I went and looked at it from a distance and went, 990 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: there is great tick and it was awesome. But I 991 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 2: was like, all right, that's done, and so you just 992 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 2: got time to do one sort of thing. When I 993 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: was in Berlin, I was u there for the night, 994 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: so you know, I went, I saw the wall, I 995 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: looked at it. There it is good. 996 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: Can I can I give you something to do? When 997 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: I know you're touring Nashville? Can I give you something 998 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: amazing to do in Nashville? 999 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:07,720 Speaker 2: Please? 1000 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: The Johnny Cash Museum is off the chain. I'm a 1001 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: massive Johnny, but like spend some time, especially, like so 1002 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: you can do it in like an hour if you want. 1003 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: But the very end, not to give it away, but 1004 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: like watch is there no, just watch It's like, you 1005 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: know his cover of Hurt, Yeah, yeah, incredible. So you 1006 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: like you walk out of the museum like ball pretty bad. 1007 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: It's so good. 1008 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 2: I read somewhere or made it up that hrsor is 1009 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 2: that so he said, all right, that's his song now, 1010 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 2: like he actually just said that's. 1011 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: Apparently when Johnny Cash asked to cover it, he's like, 1012 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: I don't know that. He's like, I'm honored, but I 1013 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: don't know that this is a fit. Yeah yeah, obviously 1014 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: right naturally. And apparently when he saw it, he sat 1015 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: like sat down, watched the video, OKAP, and he said, 1016 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: I was taken back to like my first heartbreak man, 1017 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, it's. 1018 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 2: Such a good There's not many covers that are better 1019 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 2: for that one, for sure, the number one do you reckon? 1020 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: There's a few good ones, I mean Houston. 1021 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is true. 1022 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 2: Well I've done this before, drunken with friends, trying to 1023 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 2: think the best color and the cover I get buy 1024 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 2: a little help with my friends Joe Cocker is actually 1025 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: better than the Beatles one, which is very rare. 1026 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: Also, like what about Can't help Falling in Love with You? 1027 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: That's Elvis's. There's so many of Elvis's. 1028 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: That cover covers pretty much. 1029 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: If you do doing Memphis, are you doing anywhere else? 1030 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: I was going to say Graceland. I'm obsessed with Elvis. 1031 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 2: We went. I went because I went and did the 1032 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 2: show with Rob Schneider. Because I was with him, we 1033 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: got to go into different parts of Graceland quality more 1034 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 2: than the average bear. And then we did a night 1035 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 2: show that night at Graceland. No, yeah, it was the best, 1036 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 2: one of the best nights of my life. We got 1037 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: the full Elvis thing. Is there's a you know that 1038 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 2: Elvis Comeback special where he sings in front of the 1039 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 2: big red Elvis picture of me and Rob Schnid are 1040 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: standing in front of that. Because we got to We've 1041 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: got to do the full thing. And I'm a huge 1042 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 2: Elvis fan. It was unreal. 1043 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: His energy is one hundred percent still there. Not to 1044 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: get hippie on you. 1045 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: No I say it. I'm not a religious person, but 1046 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,959 Speaker 2: I felt the presence of the Lord in that house, And. 1047 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: Did you go to his grave, like where the water 1048 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: it's really something happened, do you know what was? 1049 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: Because I've been there a couple of times, to Graceland, 1050 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 2: I love it, Yeah, but this time Lisa Marie was 1051 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: there and that really took me back because I went, oh, 1052 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: ship that just happened years ago. She's there and she's 1053 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 2: part of this world, and it's a it's a very 1054 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 2: very overwhelming experience Graceland. 1055 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: When you get to the grave in his meditation area, 1056 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: something happens. Everyone just stops, like it goes. 1057 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 2: Quiet completely and every understands and stars and everyone stops 1058 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 2: taking their phones. 1059 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: I just touched the ground. I was just like sitting 1060 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: there like. 1061 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: I just was, Yeah, I just kind of stand and 1062 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 2: look and what I Unfortunately, my brain goes to this 1063 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 2: human being was so talented, so incredible, gave the world 1064 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: so much, and it felt a little bit like we 1065 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 2: let him down a little bit as people, as humanity, 1066 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 2: we just kept we want more, we want another movie. 1067 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 2: And I feel the same a little bit with Michael Jackson, 1068 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: like we just want more, just keep taking from these 1069 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 2: but you never really know the true story of everything. 1070 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: But it just felt felt a little bit like that 1071 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: like I felt. I almost felt like we'd let it 1072 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,479 Speaker 2: some him down. 1073 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well he never left America. 1074 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: I never left America. The best he did was Hawaii. 1075 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah America. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. I love that 1076 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: we can bond over Elvis by the way, I am. 1077 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, my love forever started with Elvis movies, not his music. 1078 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 2: I used to watch them with my grandma. Clan Baker 1079 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 2: was my fam flan bake. 1080 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: My mum had a clam bake. It's just like we're 1081 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: moving out of the house. I'm having a summer clam 1082 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,479 Speaker 1: bake finally. So yeah, but yeah, incredible. Yeah, I could 1083 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: deep dive that with you for ages. But I'm it 1084 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: was so nice just to sit and chat with you 1085 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: and to the listeners. All the two were info is 1086 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: going to be in the show notes to the Aussie listeners, Chrissy, 1087 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: time you're there from like November. 1088 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 2: All of November is Australia. So and I'm doing all 1089 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: the major this the major city biggies. Yeah, you know, 1090 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 2: but I've added Darwin, not that it's not a major one, 1091 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: but I hadn't done it before. 1092 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: I feel like you've had Townsville or something. I feel 1093 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: like I've seen something or there's a word that I 1094 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's out of Australia. Maybe it was 1095 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: a wor I don't know. 1096 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: It could have been Auckland. 1097 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: No, oh my goodness. But anyway, you're doing so much 1098 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: and to the America. I know there's some amazing American 1099 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 1: listeners on this pot as well. I'm going to pop 1100 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: it all here. Do you have a favor, Go and 1101 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: see Monty Franklin. 1102 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, come and see me live. Thanks guys, thanks for 1103 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 2: having you knowwed it. 1104 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. 1105 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 1: As always, thank you to our guests, and let's continue 1106 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty 1107 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: my work for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. 1108 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate and comment 1109 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 1: and of course spread the love.