1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the Daily This is the 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning, and 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday, the twenty fourth 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: of July. I'm belief in Simon's. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm Emma Gillespie. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: A group of world leaders spoke out this week against 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the Israeli government's aid distribution model in Gaza, including IDF 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: soldiers killing Palestinians trying to get food and supplies. It 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: comes almost two years into Israel's bombardment of Gaza and 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: repeated limitation of aid following Hamas's attack on Israel in 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: October twenty twenty three. In today's episode, we'll explain what 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: we know about the Israeli armies, killing of Palestinians accessing 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: aid from United Nations staff on the ground in Gaza, 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: and the global response. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: We will unpack all of that and more in today's 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: deep dive right after this short message, Billy, so much 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: has happened in terms of the humanitarian situation in Gaza, 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: the delivery of aid to Palestinian people in recent weeks. 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: But before we get into the most recent happenings, the deaths, 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: the killing of people accessing aid, can you share what 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: we know about the humanitarian crisis in the region as 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: a whole. Can you just paint a bit of a 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: picture of what's gone on in the last nearly two years. 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, So most of what we know about this comes 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: from the United Nations themselves, because they have volunteers and workers, 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: they're on the ground, and so you'll see that we 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: heavily rely on them in our reporting today. 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: I think it's also worth mentioning that journalists are not 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: actually allowed in Gaza. There is no reporting from the ground, 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: which is why we have to rely on bodies like 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: the United Nations for resources when it comes to updates. 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Now in terms of what we know, so 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: there are about two point one million people who live 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: in Gaza. The World Food Program, which is a United 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Nations agency, they estimate that this entire population is facing 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: at a minimum crisis levels of food insecurity, so no 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: one is better off than that everyone is at that 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: crisis level or worse. They also said that almost one 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand women and children are suffering from severe acute 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: malnutrition and many people are dying from this lack of 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: humanitarian assistance every single day. 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: And when we talk about humanitarian assistance. Of course, there 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: is the food in security conversation. A lot of what 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: we'll talk about today is about food aid, but aid 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: includes a whole raft of supplies for everyday life, the basics, 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: the fundamentals, and a lot of that is medicine, healthcare, 47 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: those kinds of things exactlybes baby food formula. 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the latest update from the UN said that 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: fuel availability is also critically low, threatening the shutdown of 50 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: hospitals and ambulances. The other thing the UN has said 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: is that prices for basic commodities have increased by around 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: four thousand percent. Yeah. 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: I heard this from someone interviewed in Gaza this week 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: describing how the cost of flower had searched and how 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: it's so expensive to buy a simple bag of flour 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: to make bread, and that even something like that is 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: so unaffordable for the everyday person in Gaza, where people 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: are not working because they're in a war zone. 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think I read the same thing as you, 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: and it was like a bag of flower is something 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: like two hundred dollars. And the UN said this week 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: for Gaza's inhabitants who have lost their homes and been 63 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: displaced multiple times, they have no income and find themselves 64 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: completely deprived of essentials. On Tuesday, a spokesperson for the 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: UN Secretary Generals said, the population in Gaza remains gravely 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: undersupplied with the basic necessities of life. Israel has the 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: obligation to allow and facilitate, by all the means at 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: its disposal, the humanitarian relief provided by the United Nations 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: and by other humanitarian organizations. 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so, Billy, we know there are organizations, agencies, the 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: United Nations among them, trying to help, trying to deliver 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: this critical aid that is needed in Gaza. How does 73 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: that happen? 74 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: So after a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas broke down 75 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: earlier this year, Israel instituted an aid blockade to Gaza. 76 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Then Israeli PM Benjamin Etna who partially lifted the blockade 77 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: in May. That was following international criticism. Now aid is 78 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: currently largely distributed by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which is 79 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: a non government organization with US and Israeli support. It 80 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: has four sites set up in Gaza, and the model 81 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: has been extensively criticized by the UN and also by 82 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: other countries, which I'll get to in more dea later 83 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: but one of the reasons it has been criticized is 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: because of Israeli troops repeated killings of Palestinians trying to 85 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: access aid. 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Part of the reason that this Gaza Humanitarian Foundation of 87 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: the DHF has been so controversial, among many reasons, is 88 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: that the four sites set up in Gaza, for many residents, 89 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: that requires them to travel great distances. It further restricts 90 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: access to aid. If we're talking about a population of 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: people who are critically ill or starving, or can't access 92 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: medical support or cannot walk those distances, then that's another 93 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: layer of kind of food insecurity and complexity in the 94 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: rollout of the GHF. 95 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Okay, so a. 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: Very complicated picture that you've painted their billy, particularly over 97 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: the last few months. What has happened in the last week. 98 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: I know there were some major headlines over the weekend, 99 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: in particular what's the latest. 100 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: So on Sunday the World Food Program, which like I 101 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: said before, is a United Nations run agency, they were 102 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: trying to deliver aid to Palestinians in northern Gaza, who 103 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: they said were in desperate need of food supplies, which, 104 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: as I just laid out, is exactly what we know 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: to be true now. They said that after crossing a 106 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: final border checkpoint, the convoy encountered large crowds of civilians, 107 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: and their statement then said, as the convoy approached the 108 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: surrounding crowd came under fire from Israeli tanks, snipers and 109 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: other gunfire, resulting in a large number of casualties. According 110 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: to the Associated Press, who was quoting the Hamas run 111 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Gaza Health Ministry, Israeli forces killed at least seventy nine 112 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: Palestinians in the incident, and an additional six people were 113 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: also reportedly killed trying to access AID near Rafa in 114 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: southern Gaza, and that was according also to officials speaking 115 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: to the Associated Press. Those figures haven't been independently verified 116 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: for reasons that we talked about before. And we know 117 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: that the World Food Program has now paused convoy movement 118 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: through that crossing where these killings by these Raeli troops occurred, 119 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: because it is too dangerous. 120 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: Okay. So a total of eighty five reported deaths in 121 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: one day, all civilians trying to access aid. How did 122 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: Israel respond to those killings? 123 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: So, Israel's Foreign Ministry said, these Raeli Defense forces troops 124 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: did indeed fire warning shots, which they claimed was to 125 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: remove an immediate threat from the crowds. They didn't exactly 126 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: share what that immediate threat was, but they said there 127 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: was an immediate threat. They also questioned the number of 128 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: casualties being reported, so they said the details of the 129 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: incident are still being examined, but that an initial review 130 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: suggests the number of casualties reported does not align with 131 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: the information held by the IDF. 132 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so we know that access to aid has been 133 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: a concern in Gaza since October twenty twenty three, but 134 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: it's really become much more of a critical issue in 135 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: the last six months. Especially. Do we know how many 136 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: Palestinians have died from this violence while trying to access aid? 137 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so on Tuesday, the United Nations put out a 138 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: statement telling us exactly that. So they said that now 139 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: more than a thousand Palestinians have been killed by the 140 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Israeli military while trying to get food in Gaza. And 141 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: they said that that number comes from multiple reliable sources 142 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: on the ground, including medical teams, humanitarian and human rights organizations. 143 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to zoom out a little bit and 144 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: talk about the international community. Now, Billy as well, because 145 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: there has been mounting pressure, escalating attention on Gaza, pressure 146 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: on the Israeli government, and a statement this week from 147 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: nearly thirty countries essentially demanding for the war in Gaza 148 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: to end. What has happened since we got that statement. 149 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like you said, we got this statement from 150 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: foreign ministers from about thirty countries, including Australia's Foreign Minister, 151 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: Penny Wog. I'll read out some of what they said. 152 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: So they said, the suffering of civilians in Gaza has 153 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: reached new depths. The Israeli governments AID delivery model is dangerous, 154 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: fuels instability and deprives Gazans of human dignity. We condemned 155 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: the drip feeding of AID and the inhumane killing of civilians, 156 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: including children, seeking to meet their most basic needs of 157 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: water and food. 158 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: That was a statement that was co signed by Australia's 159 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: Foreign minister, as well as ministers from countries like the UK, Canada, Japan, 160 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: several countries all over Europe, twenty eight in total. 161 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And one thing I will mention is that 162 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: the Israeli government has said that the model is needed 163 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: to divert AID from her mus So there have been 164 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: concerns that AID would be getting into the wrong hands, 165 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: being Hammas. 166 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: So the argument from Israeli authorities being that Hamas, a 167 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: terrorist organization exists on the ground in Gaza and it 168 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: is trying to deprive the terrorist organization of accessing. 169 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: AIDEP And the statement from the Foreign Ministers also acknowledged 170 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: the hostages that were taken by Hamas on October seven, 171 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So according to the United Nations as 172 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: of last week, it is estimated that fifty Israelis and 173 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: foreign nationals remain captive in Gaza, including some of whom 174 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: have died. And in this statement, the Foreign Ministers called 175 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: for the immediate and unconditional release of the hostages, which 176 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: they've been doing throughout the nearly two years of this war. 177 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: So there's no change there. But overall, this statement's main 178 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: message was that the war in Gaza must end now, 179 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and that's a direct quote from the statement. 180 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: When we get statements like this, I suppose there's a 181 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: bit of reinvigorated conversation in the global community about ceasefire talks. 182 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: Where they're up to where they're at. Is there any 183 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: update on a ceasefire? 184 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean the update is that there really isn't that 185 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: much of an update. Negotiations have stalled, and that's as 186 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: much as we really know. 187 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: Billy, Thank you so much for taking us through that. Obviously, 188 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: we want to be able to give our listeners the 189 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: latest and a bit more on this situation, but as 190 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,359 Speaker 2: you explain, with the ceasefire negotiations, there isn't that information 191 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: that we can really share, but we will stay across it. 192 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: It certainly seems like the international community humanitarian groups are 193 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 2: not looking away from the dispute over aid distribution the 194 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: concerns over humanitarian aid in Gaza. Will continue to keep 195 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: a close eye on that and bring you guys updates 196 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: as we hear them. Thank you so much for listening 197 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: to today's episode. 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