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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast mini.

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Speaker 2: Packed to the Rafters is back on Amazon Prime Video.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable that you can go and check that out. And

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Speaker 2: they're reopening one of the greatest TV franchises of and

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Speaker 2: in living memory. I should say, bloody excited then to

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Speaker 2: have one of the leading roles on the show has

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Speaker 2: been for such a long time as well. Hugh Sheridan

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Speaker 2: joined us on the blower knock on.

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Speaker 1: Woody Hill said, knock on Woody here, that it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a hit worldwide. That's that's what we're hoping.

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Speaker 1: We've taken. We've taken Pack to the Rafters, made it

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Speaker 1: back to the rafters, kind of like back to the future. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like it. I like it. You

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Speaker 1: if we knew what was going to be in the future.

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Speaker 2: Hell, how many people? How many people do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: We're sitting in the were sitting in the room, the

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Speaker 2: creative room, to come up with Back to the Rafters

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Speaker 2: as opposed to Pack to the Rafters here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I hope that. I hope that

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Speaker 1: they got it the first shot. They didn't too long

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Speaker 1: trying to work that one.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if they booked it four days for it for

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Speaker 2: four days of session.

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Speaker 1: Right, we've now did in five minutes. It's actually taken

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Speaker 1: them eight years. They've been trying to a year and

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Speaker 1: they finally came up with the name, and Amazon Prime

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Speaker 1: Video were like, love it, love it? Did you did

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Speaker 1: you always?

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Speaker 2: Did you always think here that it was going to

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Speaker 2: come back?

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Speaker 1: I mean eight years is that amount of time where

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Speaker 1: you're probably starting to go, I think we we just

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Speaker 1: leave it or I will never play that role again.

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Speaker 1: But did you think it was come back? They trust me. No, No,

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Speaker 1: that they've been wanting it to come back. They talked

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Speaker 1: about it for a very long time. But I wasn't

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Speaker 1: ready personally to step back into it. Like Pack to

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Speaker 1: the Rafters was a little bit like friends, and that

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Speaker 1: people were sort of like crazy for it, like you know,

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Speaker 1: really hang out for it. And so when you leave

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Speaker 1: a show like that, you know it takes you a

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Speaker 1: while to disassociate yourself as well. Yeah, and then like

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Speaker 1: you know, when this opportunity came up and Amazon Prime said,

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Speaker 1: we really want to make them original Australian drama and

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Speaker 1: eight years is a long time, it felt like it

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Speaker 1: was long enough. And actually I wanted to play Ben again,

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Speaker 1: like I was ready, Like I wanted to have that

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Speaker 1: family around me again. And I think, you know, for Australians,

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Speaker 1: like it couldn't actually be timed better because it's just

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Speaker 1: such a sort of hard time for so many people

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Speaker 1: in around the country, you know, you know, with orders

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Speaker 1: of close people separated from their family and all that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. I think this is cool because you know,

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Speaker 1: even if you're separated from your family, you can all

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Speaker 1: push play at the same time and sort of have

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Speaker 1: that nostalgia.

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Speaker 2: Is back to the rafters set in COVID, like you

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Speaker 2: all in lockdown and wearing masks.

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Speaker 1: Like it's kind of sort of dealing with it in

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Speaker 1: it's not essentially talked about as such, but it's definitely

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Speaker 1: living in a different period of time, Like there's all

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Speaker 1: the new topics that have come into the world are

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Speaker 1: in there. We didn't really even though we were shooting

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Speaker 1: through COVID and everything. We decided to sort of lead out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well because Australia for the most part sort of has

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Speaker 1: been dealing with that find a way. Yeah yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, ifever we revisited, maybe we'll we'll be wearing masks.

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Speaker 2: You actually want to talk to you. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk to you a little bit more about some of

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Speaker 2: those other topics that you said that the Back to

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Speaker 2: the Rafters is now going to navigate and right up next,

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Speaker 2: so please stay with us a bit more with Hugh

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Speaker 2: Sheridan right up next, Back to the Rafters out on

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Speaker 2: Amazon Prime video. You listened to, Well, Back to the

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Speaker 2: Rafters is now Back to the Rafters. It is back

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Speaker 2: Amazon Prime. We've got one of the stars, one of

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Speaker 2: the darlings of Australia and Hugh Sheridan who joins us

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Speaker 2: on the blow right now. You But we were just

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Speaker 2: talking about the fact that or you were saying that

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Speaker 2: the new show Back to the Rafters is going to

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Speaker 2: be tackling topics that you wouldn't normally tackle, and it

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Speaker 2: made me think just what you just said then reminded

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Speaker 2: me actually funnily enough, because Woody and I were talking

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Speaker 2: just before the interview. We I think you were actually

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Speaker 2: one of our first ever interviews. I reckon ten years

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Speaker 2: ago we were have spoken to you. I reckon it

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Speaker 2: was a bloody long time ano and I reckon, there

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Speaker 2: was this there was like a genuine hoodoo over and

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Speaker 2: I can't seem to remember whether it was you that

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Speaker 2: were a bit kg about it, or whether it was

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Speaker 2: the production to our production team, or whether it was

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Speaker 2: whoever he was working on the show with you about

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Speaker 2: the fact that you'd come out, And I remember dealing

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Speaker 2: with that and like navigating that, and I was quite

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Speaker 2: scared about it because it's just not something that i'd

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Speaker 2: done publicly. And then fast forward ten years and I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at a photo of you making out with your

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Speaker 2: partner on the front cover of DNA magazine ahead of

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Speaker 2: Prime Month, and now I hear that you're also your

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Speaker 2: gendin on binary as well and openly bisexual.

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Speaker 1: So like, holy shit, it's quite ironic actually that you

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Speaker 1: say that, because I I came like when I wrote

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Speaker 1: the essay for Spella last year, I specifically said that

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Speaker 1: it's like for me personally, my major, you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of seeing not wanting to talk about it was because

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Speaker 1: I genuinely sort of wasn't really sure where I landed.

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Speaker 1: And suddenly enough, one of the things that I haven't

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Speaker 1: really talked about with anyone is that I never actually

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Speaker 1: really had labeled myself anything but human. And the reason

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Speaker 1: that I settled on that was because I was like,

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Speaker 1: we make so much of labels, like labels separators, and

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Speaker 1: we hang on to them so tightly. Whether it's like

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Speaker 1: it could be a religious label, it could be ethnicity,

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Speaker 1: it could be a nationality, it could be sexuality, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is. But when you get to the base of everyone,

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Speaker 1: we're all just humans. We all like grieve the same,

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Speaker 1: we feel the same. And also humans have free to

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Speaker 1: change their mind at any given time, Like you can.

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Speaker 1: You can be engaged, you can get married, you can

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Speaker 1: have children, and then you can you know what, one

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Speaker 1: day wake up and go, I think I've changed. That's

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Speaker 1: what makes humans special. And that's sort of like was

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Speaker 1: my realization. And funnily enough a journalist, actually, I was

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Speaker 1: in Florida, like not that long ago, and I woke

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Speaker 1: up to these headlines saying Hugh's come out as non binary,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, hang on, I need to google

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Speaker 1: exactly what that means.

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Speaker 2: That means, I know what it means, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know so many labors. I'm just a

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Speaker 1: human and ironically, my name's Hugh.

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Speaker 2: So hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know you want to