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Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one oh four point nine

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Speaker 1: three point sixteen. Now the government is set to investigate

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Speaker 1: key land parcels in an effort to support further population

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Speaker 1: growth here in the territory. Fifteen million dollars is going

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Speaker 1: to be invested over the next five years in planning

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Speaker 1: works for population and industry growth. Now joining me on

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Speaker 1: the line is the Minister for Infrastructure, Planning and Logistics.

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Speaker 2: Evil La La Good morning, Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Minister. Work is underway, obviously in an effort to plan

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Speaker 1: for future population growth, identifying land as well as locations

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Speaker 1: where residential lots will eventually become available. What areas are

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Speaker 1: the government looking at to release these five thousand residential lots?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so just one step back, Katie. So we've released

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Speaker 2: the Halts to Elizabeth Rivers Subregional Land Use Plan, so

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Speaker 2: that this is the second stage of consultation for this plan.

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Speaker 2: So the first stage was going out talking to people,

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Speaker 2: asking people in Parmesan and the rural area about what

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Speaker 2: they saw for the future. So we've released this plan,

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Speaker 2: which is a thirty to fifty year long vision plan.

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Speaker 2: It's out for consultation until the twenty sixth of November.

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Speaker 2: But part of it, so the plan focuses on the

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Speaker 2: area that's like a ring around the community of Palmerston,

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Speaker 2: around the city of Palmerston. So the plan focuses on Holts,

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Speaker 2: that eleven mile industrial area, the south sort of west

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Speaker 2: side of Virginia, which is the sort of the land

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Speaker 2: that abuts to Palmerston, Archer and then Mitchell West and

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Speaker 2: so that's sort of like a ring around Palmerston, and

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Speaker 2: that's what the plan looks at. And part of that

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Speaker 2: then is Holts and that's where we've been having conversations

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Speaker 2: for quite a while about the future suburbs, future residential

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Speaker 2: So there's a Darwin Regional land News Plan which is

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Speaker 2: that greater all of Darwin and Beyond plan. The next

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Speaker 2: one is this Holts and Elizabeth River Regional land News Plan.

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Speaker 2: We will then get to the stage of doing the

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Speaker 2: area plan for actual Holts. So when you talk about

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Speaker 2: out for consultation. Then we focus on the absolute area

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Speaker 2: plans areas such as Holts, so that area plan will

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Speaker 2: look at things such as know where schools will go,

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Speaker 2: any other shopping centers, anything like that. So that looks

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Speaker 2: at the social infrastructure as well. So it's the Independent

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Speaker 2: Planning Commission. It's work they're doing. We're at the mid

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Speaker 1: So Minister, how much are we really expecting the population

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Speaker 2: So the Holts to Elizabeth River Subregional Land Juice Plan

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Speaker 2: we do have land available into the future, so it's

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Speaker 2: no point in getting caught out. And it's also about

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Speaker 2: making sure we have those title blots. So this is

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Speaker 2: land that's owned by nothern terretary government, so we're in

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is always a lot of pushback I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, Katie, this is vitally important that people

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Speaker 2: people will say I wasn't consulted. Will now's the time

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Speaker 2: to be consulted. So it's important that people do get

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in just a second. Before we

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so. This is so the first stage of consultation,

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Speaker 2: the Planning Commission went out and spoke to lots of people.

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Speaker 2: There was public meetings and they have listened to that.

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Speaker 2: And so the original plan was called the Parmesan and

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Speaker 1: Minister, Where can people go to actually make sure that

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Speaker 1: How can they make sure that their voices and any

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Speaker 2: So there's if you have got technology you can go

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Speaker 2: to have you say and that website they have, you

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Speaker 2: They'll make sure that they're out and about and you

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Speaker 1: Now, Minister, before I let you go, we do know

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Speaker 1: that obviously the pay frees, the public service pay frese

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Speaker 2: Well, you know that this is what happens with EBA negotiations.

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Speaker 2: And I think most of us that have been around

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Speaker 2: that office are made and there's backwards and forwarding. But

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Speaker 2: you know that the government has provided a thousand dollar

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Speaker 2: public sector wages. We understand that there are you know,

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Speaker 2: like bad additional days relieve. But you know, that's our

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Speaker 2: bargaining policy and will continue. The Public Service Commissioner does

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Speaker 2: the bargaining on behalf of government, so those negotiations will continue.

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Speaker 2: And as I said, that's not new. We've I've seen

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Speaker 2: And I know there's been some tough EBAs with education

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Speaker 2: over the years. So that's part of the process and

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Speaker 2: that's a good part of the pro I mean, is.

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Speaker 1: It getting frustrating though, I like at the end of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said, but that's what and that's

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Speaker 2: what unions do. As I said, there's doing and throwing

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Speaker 2: around those positions. And as I said, we've seen that

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Speaker 2: in the past. And that's the role of the Commission

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Speaker 2: of Public Employment to do that. We think as a

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Speaker 2: of Angolant. We think it's a fair deal around a

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Speaker 2: thousand dollar payment to all public servants, but as I said,

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Speaker 2: that remains to be seen and that's part of the process.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time this morning. Thanks very much for

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Speaker 1: having a chat with me. Katie, thank you. Well you

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