1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: But the latest prop Track figures for March have been 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: released and show that Darwin and the Territory is languishing 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the national home price index as 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: the only jurisdiction to record declines in both the city 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: and regions in the past years. So across the country, 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: according to the Northern Territory News, across the country, homeowners 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: are experiencing a surge in prices, but here in the 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: Northern Territory we're missing out on a post COVID property boom. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: So joining us on the line to tell us more 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: about the latest data is prop Track economist Eleanor Craig. 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Eleanor. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Morning Katie. Great to be here. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, lovely to speak with you this morning. Now, can 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: you tell us first off, what is the current median 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: price for a Darwin home. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: We're looking at the current median value of a home 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: in Darwin. We're looking at around four hundred and eighty 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: two thousand dollars, So Darwin does remain that the cheapest 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: capital city market across the country. But even so, we 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: are seeing that home price growth in Darwin is lagging 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: other markets at the moment. So the Project Home Price 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Index shows that home prices in Darwin rows by very 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: small point zero percent in March and that brings them 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: down zero point sixty four percent on level seen in 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: March last year. Now, many all other capital city markets, 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: with the exception of Hobart, are continuing to record a 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: strong pace of price growth in March. 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So just how big is the price growth 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: in a lot of those other major cities and other 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: locations around Australia. 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: So we're seeing that it's the markets of Perth, Adelaide 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: and Brisbane that are really outperforming at the moment, and 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: those three markets are recording significant home price growth. In fact, 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: home prices in Perth are up almost twenty percent in 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: the past year now. That's followed by Adelaide at thirteen 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: and a half percent and Brisbane coming in at twelve 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: point nine percent. Now, Sydney also is continuing to record 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: an above average pace of price growth, as home prices 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: in sitting up a little over eight percent over the 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: past here. In contrast, Melbourne, Hobart, Canberra and Darwinner all 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: recording a weaker pace of price growth. 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: And so why is it do you think that that Well, 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: not only Darwin, but the northern territory more generally is 44 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: seeing such you know, such a weak rise. 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: It's certainly an interesting question, and I mean at the 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: moment we are really seeing that it is those I 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: guess East Groast capital city markets like Sydney and then 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: the relatively affordable smaller capital city markets like Brisbane, Adelaide 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: and Perth that are really leading home price growth at 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: the moment. I'd say one of the fact is there's 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: always a multitude of back yes, the impact home prices, 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: but one of the significant factors that is continuing to 53 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: drive a very strong pace of price growth in those 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: markets over other markets is the fact that the demands 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: supply in balance is much more extreme. So we know 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: that housing or home buying demand is being buoyed at 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: the moment by strong population growth, very tight rental markets, 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: resilient labor market conditions, and of course those home equity 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: gains of recent years. But at the same time, the 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: supply of new housing is very constrained and this slowdown 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: in the delivery and completion of new bills is really 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: most impacting those markets and one of the biggest drivers 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: that we're seeing in terms of the Brisbane, Adelaide and 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: Perth continuing to record a much stronger pace of price 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: growth than many other markets. Is the fact that the 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: supply of properties listed for sale on market is incredibly constrained. 67 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: So in each of those three markets the total number 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: of properties listed on market is around forty percent below 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: pre pandemic averages. So really type supply conditions. 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Well, and I get you know, for us here in 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: the territory, we just really have not seen a big 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: population growth either, so it does have an impact Ellen, 73 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: or can I ask obviously we've spoken about Darwin, and 74 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: you know the home prices in Darwin, how is it 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: more generally across the board in the Northern Territory. 76 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: So looking at regional Northern Territory home prices also posted 77 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: again a very slight gain in March, so a point 78 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: zero three percent rise in regional nty in March. Now 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 2: that brings them that or still leaves them down two 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: point nine percent on level seen in March last year, 81 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: and down three point six percent from their peak recorded 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two when interest rates first started rising. 83 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Now in terms of here in the Northern Territory, and 84 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: it's something that we sort of spoke about a little 85 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: bit yesterday on the show. Do you know if there's 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, if there is much sort of happening in 87 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: other states to try and incentivize people getting into their 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: first homes and that kind of thing, And does that 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: make a difference then in terms of, you know, the 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: sales across the board. 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: Certainly, we know that there are various schemes for first 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: time buyers to take advantage of, but still conditions are 93 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: really difficult or really tough for first time buyers at 94 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: the moment. So we've seen many markets have recorded significant 95 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: price rises over the past four years, and of course, 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: existing homeowners benefit from those equity gains on their homes 97 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 2: and as a result, to somewhat insulated from the higher 98 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: rate environment that we're currently in. But for first time buyers, 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: with home prices having increased so significantly in recent years 100 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: and mortgage servicing costs being a lot higher as well, 101 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: affordability has deteriorated markedly. And that deposit hurdle, which really 102 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: is the most significant hurdle to home ownership, has also 103 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: increased with home prices having increased, so it's likely taking 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: many longer to save for a deposit on that first home. 105 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, geez, it'd be hard, I reckon trying to get 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: your first time at this point in time for so 107 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: many of these you know, for various reasons, but gee, 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: it must be tough. 109 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: Yes, certainly. And I mean although home price growth in 110 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: Darwin is lagging at the moment, we have still seen 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: that that Darwin home prices have increased twenty five percent 112 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: on pre pandemic levels. So it's sactly four years now 113 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: since the pandemic onset and with home prices having increased 114 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: twenty five percent on pre pandemic levels, we know that 115 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: it's likely that for many would be first time buyers 116 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: it is more difficult to get into the market now. 117 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: Interest rates are much higher and property prices are higher 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: as well, so that deposit is likely taking longer to 119 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: say for and needs it needs to be bigger, eleanor. 120 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: What do you think could you know, what do you 121 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: think could spark a change to the market in the 122 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Northern Territory and you know see those prices go back up. 123 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: Well, we've seen in other markets. It's really all about 124 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: that housing demand and housing supply in balance. So any 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: factor that were to increase housing demand in Darwin and 126 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory relative to the supply of housing 127 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: that's available would likely see house prices joining the recovery 128 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: that we're seeing elsewhere in home prices, or indeed in 129 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: some markets it's no longer recovery and more they're actually 130 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: sitting at fresh pire price peaks, having recovered all of 131 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: the losses recorded when interest rates were first rising. 132 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Eleanor anything else interesting. Through the data that you've you 133 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: know that you've sort of gathered on the northern territory 134 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: that you think our listeners might be keen to know about. 135 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: Well, certainly we know that home prices in Darwin are 136 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: or do remain relatively affordable relative to the rest of 137 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: the country. And at the same time, although rental markets 138 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 2: aren't quite as tight in Darwin as they are in say, Perth, 139 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Adelaide or Britaine, rental market conditions are still relatively constrained. 140 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: Now with hope, with that relative affordability advantage, and with 141 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: tight rental markets and rental price growth ongoing, that could 142 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: present opportunity for some investors looking to take advantage of 143 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: that relative affordability that homes in Darwin may offer relative 144 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: to some of the other capital city markets well eleanor Cray. 145 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. Prop Track senior economist, 146 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having a chat with us. 147 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Thank you