1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: If you're listening to the show. Yesterday we spoke to 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Amber and They are a vital not for profit organizations 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: supporting individuals and families through the loss of a child, 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: which has been well. They've been operating in the Northern 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Territory for decades. Now the service is turning to the 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: community for urgent financial support as they are facing the 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: real prospect of having to cease operations after exhausting all 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: other funding avenues. Now, after we spoke to the chair 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Peters, we were inundated with women contacting the show 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: to share their experiences of a loss of a child 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: and how Amber Andee has helped to support them. Some 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: of those stories and situations that we spoke about were 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: nothing short of harrowing, and you know, really made me 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: understand just how important this service is in the Northern Territory. 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Now joining us in the studio is the Health Minister, 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Steve Edgington. Good morning to your minister, Good. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Morning Katie, and good morning all the listeners. 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Minister, 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: are you aware of the funding situation impacting Amber and 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: at the moment. 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, I certainly am, and I think it was just 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: over a month ago I received a letter from Amber 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: and what I've done since then has how to look 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: at what's the actual funding situation with Amber and T 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: and know firstly, I want to put on the record 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: the fantastic work that Amber and T is doing here 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory, supporting families are during the most 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: difficult parts of their life, and the work that they're 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: doing is truly amazing. And all the feedback that I've 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: received so far has just been so overwhelming the support 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: that Amber and T provides. So what I have done 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: is gone back and how to look at the funding 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: situation with Amber and T and at the moment coming 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: to the latter stages of a five year funding agreement, 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: so that the Northern Territory Health have been providing the 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: sum of around about one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: per year and that includes fifteen thousand dollars for rental 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 2: assistance as well for Amber and T. At the moment, 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: we certainly understand the situation that Amber and T isn't 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: at the moment that there has been an increase in 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: further demand on their service, which has had in itself, 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: So what we are doing is facilitating an early payment 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: to Amber see them through at the moment. But the 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: funding agreement itself expires in twenty twenty six. 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so not additional funding, but a bringing forward of that. 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 2: Fund that's right. So it's not additional funding. As I said, 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: we're locked into a five year funding agreement. And that's 48 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen thousand, three hundred and fifteen excluding 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: GST per year, and that includes that fifteen thousand dollars 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: rental assistance program. 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: And did you say that that agreement ends in twenty 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty six. 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that agreement was actually signed back in January 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. It's a five year agreement. So as 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: time gets closer to the end of that agreement, we'll 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: certainly work with AMBER and t see how we go 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: moving forward. Yeah. 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: What really struck me yesterday is is, you know, the 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: way in which they've helped not just women, but families 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: right across the Northern Territory who've lost their babies and 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: their children. And you know, a couple of those mums 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: actually saying to me, well, one in particular, had said 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: that her placenta had ruptured on the way to the hospital. 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: She woke up, she was asking where her baby was 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: and then found out that she'd lost her baby. And 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: she said that, you know, she was in a like 67 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: an absolute state of disarray as you would imagine, and 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Amber and t just sort of helped her with everything 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: in the aftermath. 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And Amber and Tee has been at the 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: forefront of her, providing the support under the most difficult 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: and devastating circumstances for family. So look, we're supporting Amber 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: and will continue to support Amber and Tee. That funding agreement, 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: as I said, we'll expire around about January twenty t 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: twenty six, that five year funding agreement, and we're happy 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: to sit down with Amber and Tea and see what 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: opportunities there are to move forward. But I do know 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: that Amber and Tea, you know, they're out there looking 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: for other funding opportunities as well through sponsorships. We've also 80 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: advised them that there's other funding programs they might to apply, 81 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: they might be able to apply for, certainly the Community 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Development Program, which is the which can provide up to 83 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand in operational funding. That's the 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: program where money from the Pokey's and all that money 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: goes into that Community Development Fund so that not for 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: profits have the opportunity to apply to get some benefit 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: back from that funding. 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: Minister, do you know if we have a lot of 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: other services for families who are dealing. 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: With the lotgrams across the board, whether it's the employee 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: assistance programs, whether it's professional counseling and those sorts of things, 92 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: But when it comes to Amber and T they're providing 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: that specific support program to families during those difficult periods, 94 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: and I think that's the beauty of what Amberantee is providing. 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Do they maybe need a boost up? I mean when 96 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: you look at how many families they are helping, and unfortunately, 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, if their demand has increased, and look, I 98 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: hope and I'm sure like I hope that they appreciate 99 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: or I hope that this is going to help them 100 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: in terms of that funding being moved forward. But do 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you think that there potentially needs to be a boost up. 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: Looking at the demand And the sad part about it 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: is that there is increasing demand for this type of 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: service and what the position we're in at the moment 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: is that this funding agreement will expire in January twenty 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: twenty six when it comes to funding across the board 107 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: from a Northern Territory perspective, just coming into government, we've 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: been faced with a nine billion dollar debt. We've got 109 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: to and it's not just Amberantee. You know, we want 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: to support ambrandte but we've got a whole lot of 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: different programs, a whole lot of different providers telling us 112 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: that there's need, they need more money. We're in a 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: situation the moment where the budget, to the debt and 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: the deficit that we're facing just this year is making 115 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: it very difficult to increase funding across the board. So 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: what we'll do when we look at as this agreement 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: comes to the expiry, we'll have a look at what 118 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: the opportunities are moving forward to support Amber and Tee. 119 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: But in the interim we've certainly given them opportunities to 120 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: well to try and help to try and get other 121 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: grants through some of those government grant bodies. But of 122 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: course I know that Amber and Tee is often seeking 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: a sponsorship, so there's opportunities for anyone listening today to 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: provide that support as well. 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there most certainly is. Well, look, we'll we'll no 126 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: doubt hear more from them, and hopefully this is going 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: to be really helpful to them. And as you said, 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: you'll then be able to continue those discussions once that 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: the funding agreement that's in place now sort of moves along. 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: Now on to another important issue. I understand the Northern 131 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Territory is actually celebrating thirty. 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: Years of breastscreen thirty years and I was out at 133 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: Casarini yesterday, Kadie, and what a great news story because 134 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, the Breast screen NT has done 135 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: an incredible job thirty years of providing that service. And 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: I think the statistics that I had in front of 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: me yesterdays they provided free breast screening to around about 138 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven thousand people over that thirty 139 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: year period. But operating US is now just approaching I 140 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: think ten years. So here we are ten years of 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: the bus going out to remote areas as well, and 142 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: the buses out there, and I saw some photos that's 143 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: down in my electorate at the moment, so there's some 144 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: amazing work getting done there. That bus, the Mammogram bus 145 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: is traveling roughly about sixteen thousand kilometers per year and 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: working with primary health clinics in remote areas to ensure 147 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: that all women over forty have that opportunity to get 148 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: that free breast screen done. 149 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: So it is absolutely pivotal work. It is so instrumental, 150 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: and you know, making sure that there's that early detection 151 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to things like breast cancer. You know, 152 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: like it's such a huge thing to make sure that 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: it is out there helping women. I mean, one hundred 154 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and forty seven thousand women. Did you say all people 155 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: that one hundred and. 156 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: Forty seven thousand the breast screens have been done in 157 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: that thirty year period. But I think, and I haven't 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: got the statistics in front of me, but I think 159 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to early detection, we're talking over nine 160 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: hundred early identification of possible breast cancer. So that's the 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: work that they're doing. That early detection is incredibly important 162 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: for women over forty those that are under forty are 163 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: certainly women that are under forty can work with their 164 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: GP to ensure that they get the proper support and 165 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: the screening that's needed. But at the moment, that free 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: breast screening for any woman over the age of forty, 167 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: that's happening right across the Northern territory and it's really 168 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 2: fantastic being out there yesterday just celebrating thirty years and 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: smile on the faces of staff out there, but hearing 170 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: about the incredible work that they're doing was truly amazing. 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: It is truly amazing, Steve. How's it all going as 172 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: the health Minister? I mean you got instantly I've had 173 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: to hit the ground running right. 174 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's been incredible work, Katie, and you know, moving 175 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: forward in government, We've got a fantastic team and my 176 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: portfolios alone covering health, mental health and alcohol policy, but 177 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: also I've been out and about in my one of 178 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: my new portfolios which is housing, local government, community Development, 179 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: but importantly the overarching portfolio that I have around Aboriginal 180 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: affairs but also central Services. All of my portfolios go 181 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: hand in hand together, and I'm really excited to get 182 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: out in the bush because all of these points, and 183 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: you know, some of our policies around empowering communities to 184 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: move back towards a local government model where people feel 185 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: empowered in their communities. Not only feel empowered, but they 186 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 2: are empowered through an election process to look after their communities, 187 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: make decisions about service delivery and programs and that's we 188 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: see that that's going to give people a better start 189 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: of life in those remote areas. 190 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: Steve a very quick one. A lot of people are 191 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: absolutely up in arms this morning. I know it's not 192 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: a government decision, but they're up in arms about the 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Darwin City Council's decision not to award HPA the contract 194 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: to run Shoal Bay and the recycling center. There's probably 195 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: not a huge amount that you can say given the 196 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: fact that it's a council, but as the Minister for 197 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: Local Government, I mean thirty percent, I believe is the 198 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: weight that goes towards the tender or the procurement for 199 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: it being a local business, it's going to an interstate business. 200 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, does that need to maybe be amped up? 201 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think when it comes to those thirty percent waitings, 202 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: and you know, I just want to say that there's 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: a number of dump shops around the Northern Territory. I 204 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: know that to Intenet Creek they're just opening up one. 205 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: The shopdown in Alla Springs is incredible and that's being 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: run locally by the Alice Springstown Council. So look, when 207 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: it comes to Dawn HPA, I think I've had dealings 208 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: with HPA over the years and they've done some amazing work. 209 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: But when it comes to that thirty percent waiting, Look, 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: I don't know the full details of how that procurement 211 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: process worked, but it would be something I'd be interested 212 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: to speak with the Lord Mayor about and get a 213 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: feel for what's happened there. But given the outpouring of 214 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: a concern from people here in Darwen, it sounds like 215 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: something needs to be looked at. 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: Before I let you go. Bill's just messaged through from Gray. 217 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: Bill says, Hi, Katie, could you please ask Minister Steve 218 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Edgington why the aged and pensioners can't get the RSV 219 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: vaccination without paying a lot of money. I know that 220 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: the federal government had announced, and we spoke to a 221 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: pediatrician about it yesterday that babies and I believe expectant 222 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: mums are now able to get that vaccination, but he's 223 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: wondering why pensioners maybe can't as well. Well. 224 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: I must say, look, I don't know the full details 225 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: at Katie, but it's something I'm certainly keen to take 226 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: away and look into. Look, I can't provide the answer 227 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: here at the moment, but what I will do is 228 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: a commit to going away and finding out a bit 229 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: more about that. 230 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Steve Edgington, the Minister for Health, thanks so 231 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. 232 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Good on you, Katie, and thank you to all the 233 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: listeners out there. 234 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Thank you