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Speaker 1: It's a special will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Minis on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: This is very Oh my god, our button bush and

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Speaker 1: Joel's gone outside to eat something and it is a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Just play the opener, Just play the out our next.

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Speaker 3: Cause he's a writer, comedian, radio and TV host. He's

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Speaker 3: also one half of an imperfect podcast.

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Speaker 4: Wait, let me say that one again, the imperfect podcast.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's better.

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Speaker 2: You can follow all of his stuff on right.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: It really is he liberal wise in his name?

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Speaker 5: But why Presumably it's not because he fell asleep on

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Speaker 5: his keyboard.

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Speaker 2: Key to explain. And I'm a lovely natter with the boys.

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Speaker 5: It's trying, Shelton.

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Speaker 2: Yes, first time, the first time with the boys. I

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Speaker 2: would have thought actually on Willing Woody, which is nice of.

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Speaker 3: You on Big Willie and the Woodman.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: That's a sexy name for our after hour show. But

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Speaker 5: is this a big moment for you? Is this an

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Speaker 5: exciting moment for your career? Ryan making your debut on

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Speaker 5: our show.

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Speaker 3: Huge, It's the final thing on my bucket list. So

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Speaker 3: I'm all good.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? You can just die?

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Speaker 3: I can just no, no, Now I can be happy.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a much more accessible twist for everyone. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk about your website. Ryan dot Com

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Speaker 1: says eleven eleven. Wise, in there, you're releasing content on

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Speaker 1: the eleventh of every month.

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Speaker 2: Yep, what kicked it off? Mate? What can we expect?

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Speaker 1: Is it just largely self indulgent?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? But aren't we all just self indulgent? But that's

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Speaker 3: just part of the fun. So No, what it is

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Speaker 3: is it's a It's a website I set up at

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Speaker 3: the start of last year and it was just sort

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Speaker 3: I just found myself getting stuck writing scripts for months

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Speaker 3: and months and months and then they never get made.

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Speaker 3: But yes, it was just for that, so I just

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Speaker 3: thought it have something, put it on the website. It

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Speaker 3: can be like a sort of side hobby that I

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Speaker 3: that I do and it's been great like, I've loved it.

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Speaker 3: It's meant that I've made all this really fun stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's just meant that I've been able to work with

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Speaker 3: lots of people that I really like, and it's been fun.

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Speaker 2: It's bloody good gear as well.

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Speaker 5: I love all the stuff, Ryan, And actually I want

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Speaker 5: to talk to you about your most recent video because

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Speaker 5: we actually, Ryan, we had a skype chat with you

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Speaker 5: Will and I did, I would say, three or four

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Speaker 5: weeks ago. Oh yeah, yeah, we actually yeah. It was

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Speaker 5: actually really nice of you to give your time. We

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Speaker 5: wanted your advice on a few things in the industry

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Speaker 5: and your ere you're a big dog in the biz.

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Speaker 5: But Ryan, But Ryan, in that skype chat, Will had

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Speaker 5: a beard, quite a quite a beautiful beard. And all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, three or four weeks later, I see

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Speaker 5: a video of you on ryean dot com with a beard?

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Speaker 5: Were you inspired by the beard of Will?

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Speaker 3: I'm inspired secretly by anything Big Will does, anything Big

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Speaker 5: Can you can you give an example, Ryan, of something

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Speaker 5: Big Will he does that you just follow.

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Speaker 3: I'm working on an app, like a mental health app,

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Speaker 3: which which I'm hoping to launch really soon, and I

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Speaker 3: heavily inspired by that. Thanks, and also the way that

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it if you stayed away from me.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm much much more gentle than I look like.

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Speaker 3: I know I look like a real harder bully fighter,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not actually really lovely, lovely boy, lovely Jewish boy.

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Speaker 2: Even better, I didn't realize you're a Jewish boy.

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Speaker 5: A lot about you, Ryan, but actually quite seriously, though

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Speaker 3: Yeah, technically I've been a Jewish Man since I was thirteen,

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not having to go to Judaism at all,

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Speaker 2: Two things on this jets.

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Speaker 2: Very close to the sun twice. I don't think now

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Speaker 2: two days, I'm not having a crack. I preface this

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Speaker 2: by saying I'm not having a crack but thirteen, which

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Speaker 2: means more often than not that you're about to have it.

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Speaker 3: Grag.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit like when you say no offense and

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Speaker 2: then say to stop talking. I leave it there, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: that went great, Keep that.

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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 1: Can I just talk about the creative process around So

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Speaker 1: you're doing this thing on the eleventh every month, and

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Speaker 1: as you said before, for anyone else who is creatively wired,

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Speaker 1: getting noticed, what advice would you have for them to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough one because I think the thing

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Speaker 1: And the bar the bar actually can't be that high

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Speaker 1: with it. And I suppose that has a similar effect

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, at the end of the day, now that

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Speaker 1: That for yourself, you can want it to be better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like I love there's like a

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Speaker 2: By the way we would have hard work.

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Speaker 5: incorrect Sheldon, We've got the quote in front of us.

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Speaker 3: It's something like I want to remember. It's something like

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been. It's been a really good project

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Speaker 5: quite enjoyed. And this is a bit of a spoiler,

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Speaker 5: not too much of a spoiler, but one of your videos.

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Speaker 5: I love that you just leaned right into it, Ryan

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Speaker 5: And on the eleventh of the I forget which month

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Speaker 5: it was, but you just embraced the fact that you

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Speaker 3: Whippers a good friend of mine, like old friend of mine,

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Speaker 3: and and that video had just come out, and he

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Speaker 3: the video in itself is a video. It's like there's

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Speaker 3: a lot in it. Yeah, but that he is not

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Speaker 3: a patient man, guys, so he didn't he didn't give himself.

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Speaker 1: And a poor journalist go to say, you know, really

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Speaker 2: Now I want to talk to you about Ryan.

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Speaker 1: We need to talk to you about because you know,

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Speaker 1: Whipper is a great guy, there's absolutely no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he can suffer in his jocks.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get back to this laughscape, which is available

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Speaker 1: for purchase in the app store. You feature on this

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Speaker 1: beautiful app, which is a wonderful idea. It's a sleeping app, guys,

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Speaker 1: which has bedtime stories from over fifty comedians. So if

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Speaker 1: check the app on and hear comedians telling you funny stories,

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Speaker 1: humorous stories, enlightening stories, fictional little journeys they don't even

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Speaker 2: That can sort of help you.

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Speaker 1: Fall asleep, right, I know you've got a story on there.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us a preview of what if your

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Speaker 3: So my story is it's the brief history of Carpet's work.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like it is. So I do

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Speaker 3: a couple of them, and like, in all seriousness, it

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Speaker 3: I know a bunch of people who are using it

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Speaker 3: and genuinely And I'm texting with Max, the guy who

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Speaker 3: and I was messaging. I was like, I said, how's

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Speaker 3: he was kind of stoked that you found out that

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Speaker 3: really good. It's really good.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Wow, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Is all right, we'll go and check it out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you didn't tell us anything about your history of cambent,

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Speaker 1: but I assume that's because it's not a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Well, all I'll say is a little teaser is well,

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Speaker 1: I think I've actually got a little bit of your

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Speaker 3: Hear I'm Ryan Shelton, not.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, if you want to hear Ryan Shelton, not Ryan

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Speaker 1: Reynolds talking about a brief history of carpet and that's

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Speaker 1: the sort of thing that will.

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Speaker 2: Get you to sleep. And you can you can download Laughscape.

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Speaker 2: It's available for purchase in your app store. Ryan, thanks

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Speaker 2: for coming on the show mate.

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Speaker 1: It has been a pleasure to chat and get your

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Speaker 1: insights on everything. As always, such pleasure.

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Speaker 3: No and thanks for choosing such a well, a great

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Speaker 3: grab that explains the whole We're professionals.

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Speaker 2: We're professionals.

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Speaker 4: You came on, you start talking about another radio show mate,

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Speaker 4: we had to get you, bast to get you can

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Speaker 4: also you get Ryan's website Ryan dot coms what There's

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Speaker 4: eleven wives in there. He produces content on the eleventh

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Speaker 4: of every single month.

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Speaker 1: And yes, no worries at all. Mate, It's been a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Ryan Shelton.

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Speaker 3: Hear more of the boys on the Poor Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to