1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: We just want to start this episode with a very 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: important message. Ash, take it away. Happy New Year, well said, 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: it is, thank you. It is two thousand and No, 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: hang on a second, Hang on a second. Sorry, I'm 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: working on No, no, no, you can't work up to it. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: You've got to come in. No hot, go again, start again. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: All right here we are welcome to the podcast. It's Mattie, 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Jay and Ash. This is two doting dads. And before 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: we go any further with the episode, Ash has something 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: very important to say. Happy New Year. 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, it is twenty twenty five. That's right, Yeah, cool, 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We've just left twenty twenty four behind. 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: But maybe we should just recap a little bit. 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Look, we don't want to ruin the facade, but we're 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: actually not twenty twenty five. 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: That's why I can't get excited. I'm not fake. 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: He can't method act. 18 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: How dare you? 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: What an amazing news? We had to stay up so 20 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: late with the kids. Do you think you'll stay up 21 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: late with the kids. 22 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: No, they're going to bed earlier if possible. 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Look where will you be? Well? 24 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: No, I think maybe just at home. Maybe have some 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: friends over, skate the half pipe in the backyard. Yeah. 26 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Push kids on a swing, makes a pizza, go to 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: bed early, get a good start in twenty twenty five. 28 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: Push the kids on the swing, Yeah, and I'll probably 29 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: drink myself into oblivion. 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: That's what I was waiting for. 31 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 2: Try and suppress the voices. 32 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Don't try and pretend to me like you'd be hanging 33 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: out with your kids will. 34 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: For a certain amount of time, but it's so like 35 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: they're still quite young for the firework thing. 36 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Right, Look, we are giving you another best of episode. 37 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: This is a look back at some of our favorite chats. 38 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: In this episode matter we're going to talk about you 39 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: and your war against cane toe. 40 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, killing animals pests, that's a bit much. Yes, I 41 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: killed the cane toe. 42 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: I think we're also going to talk a lot about Poohs, 43 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: like Macy's ginormous pooh is the size of my forearm. 44 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Without shit, this podcast would we'd have nothing, it would Yeah, 45 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: we'd be like we'd struggle to get three episodes out. 46 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep consipating my kids for the goodness of 47 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: the podcast. 48 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Peeing and pools. 49 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: I love peeing in a pool. Now that's mine new 50 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: favorite thing. I'm just in a pool pee. 51 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Do you know what my favorite thing is? Well, hearing 52 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: about you and April having special time. 53 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: You creep episode sixty. 54 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Daddy wants a treat. Let's get into it. 55 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a shame. It's not episode sixty. 56 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Ahush, let's get it hurt. 57 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: Let's sea fantasy. 58 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: It's another about us. Let's get into the best of enjoy. 59 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: Macy like she must have been constipated or something. 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: So I'm just like, trying to get her to do 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: a poosh is clearly uncomfortable, right, And eventually, after crying 62 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: and trying to push this pooh out. And I've said 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: it before, girls pooh hard out, boys. 64 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Only when they're toddlers and once they hit but the teens, 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: they actually stop poolling and they. 66 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Don't pooh anymore. 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Rose pearls come out. 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, roses really smell like poof. 69 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: That's why they pooh so much when they're toddlers, because 70 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: they have to get all that pool out. 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: When they're adults and they don't love anymore. Yeah, I 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: told you about that. My friends whose wife only poohs 73 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: when he's asleep. 74 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh, it's wild. 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: Still, so maybe I know wonder she was so and 76 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: I need you to brace yourself for this. 77 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show me the ship. 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to show you the ship. 79 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: Gosh, it was been since we've spoken about kids ship. 80 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we are you ready for this? 81 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Show me the girth Oh. 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: For those at home, it's it looks like one of 83 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: those girthy pickles. 84 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: That we've been given the NRL boys. 85 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: Is that a bit of capsicle at the end? 86 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: It's Plato? 87 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: There's plate show is unbelievable. 88 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: If you swipe to the next photo, you can see 89 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: the person who it came out of. The tiny little girl. 90 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: She's like, happy is Larry after that? 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Oh? My days? That must have sure April didn't do that? 92 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: How is it though? 93 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I've never seen anything like it. What 94 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: did you do with it? It's still kept it in 95 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: a box, a glass box. And I didn't flush that. 96 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: It went straight out of the big bins. If I 97 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: had to flush that, I had to call the plumber. 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: It's ginormous. That's the biggest shit I've ever seen. How 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: much of that way? 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: It was pretty like that wafty? 101 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, can we show people that ship? I put 102 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: that on socials. Yeah, like that's wow. Surely that's got 103 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: to be a record. How did it come out of 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: that little girl? There's got to be some kind of 105 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: record out there. When you compare the ratio of like 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: Pooh to the person who did it, it's just like 107 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: that's like the size of her leg. 108 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Anyway, that was my day yesterday. 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: That's my girl. I was like, you gotta be yep, 110 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: how long did it take her to get that out of? 111 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: An hour? So I have dealing with that with a headache, 112 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: a concussion and a fucking broken toe. 113 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: I wish I could shit like that. 114 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, how could that it feel coming out 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: of your eye? 116 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: So cathartic? I'd pay good money to have that come 117 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: out of me. Anyway, She's not going to ship for 118 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: a year now, now you think Jesus, and you know 119 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: there's one thing that is missing, has been missing for 120 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: the last you know, now, eight nights. 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: I believe I know where you are going with this. 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Pleasure, deep erotic pleasure. It is deep and we've been 123 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: talking it up. We don't really like sex? 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Are you a teenager? 125 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: No? I was just like, well, what did I say? 126 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: I think I was trying to be. I was trying 127 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: to set the mood. I was like, I can't wait 128 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: to suck out. 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be the best thirty seconds of you. 130 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Laugh. No, I think. I was like, I kind of 131 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: what I said. 132 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: I don't do you know? 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: Do you? 134 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: You don't write, you don't say that. 135 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: I'm an adult, bro, I just send the pictures of 136 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: my dick. I definitely don't do any of that. 137 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't. How do you plant this seed with April? No? 138 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: Text? That's what? 139 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: What do you do? How do you make it known 140 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: that today maybe the day. 141 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: It could come different in different ways. I would say, like, Okay, 142 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: for example, for example, this weekend, h what do you got? 143 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: We were finishing bath and stuff from putting kids to bed. 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: It's part of the routine. And I had already gone 145 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: out and picked up dinner and I brang it back. 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: What do you have? 147 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: We got? We just got some pizzas, something really nice 148 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: and cool. We just both felt like pizza summer, which 149 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: is rare. We both felt like the same thing. It's 150 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: not the only thing we both felt like anyway. So 151 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: I was like April actually eight before we did bath, 152 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: and I was like, man, I just want to enjoy 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: it without the kids going give and then having a 154 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: bite or something, and then it's throwing in the beginning. 155 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: But we all know how you get after having a 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: meal sleepy. Yeah, they really lesargic. 157 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: And I had also picked up there's like a little 158 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: confectiony shop next to this Spezza shop that has all 159 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: the American chocolates and candy and whatever they call it. 160 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I grab something different for 161 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: after its Sunday night. Yeah, So I went and got that. Sorry, 162 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: I just had a thought that it was nothing to 163 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: do with that nothing or something. It was like I 164 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: was going to say body chocolate, but that's where I 165 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: thought this was going. No, no, no, no, no. Actually 166 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: got something that's like obscure like that. We would never 167 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: usually have butt plug. Sorry, how did you know a 168 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: chocolate butt plug? And I was, I know, we're finishing 169 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: the bath routurn and I said to April, I'm going 170 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: to go have dinner. And then I said I was 171 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: I also got like a special treat for us after 172 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: you And she was like, oh my cock. 173 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: Fuck, what is it ash? 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, that's a cockmeat sandwich. I said, 175 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: I got something special for after dinner for us, Like, 176 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: you know, if we're watching a movie or whatever. 177 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Stop pulling sexually sexual in this. I'm into it. Like, no, 178 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: this is great. I feel like I'm in the room 179 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: with you guys. I would hope not, which I love. 180 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: Continue they're killing me here, okay anyway, she was like, oh, 181 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: I thought I thought we could have another type. 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Of a special treat. Oh my god, April's going to 183 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: kill me for this. 184 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah yeah, yeah, then what happened. 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: She's gonna kill me for this? 186 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Pick cares And I was like, sorry, rephrase that, April. 187 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: We do care about the way that you feel about 188 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: certain stories being told. But this is very important because 189 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: I need to learn, because I don't know what I'm 190 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: doing in this department. 191 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: Through I I went downstairs, I got my dinner ready, 192 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: sat in front of the TV, took one look at 193 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: it and thought, if I eat all this, I'm going 194 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: to be useless to everybody. So I packed the dinner 195 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: back up, put it away. 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I walked back upstairs, and I. 197 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: Poked my head in the room and I was finishing 198 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: putting the kids sleep, and I said, I'm going to 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: eat later, and I ate later. Let's put it that way, Wow, 200 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: and that's how you do it. 201 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about divorce? 202 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: Wow? 203 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 5: Hit me as in like do I want to do it? 204 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: Or just in general not us. I'm the product of 205 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 5: a lot of divorce, as in, like my parents got 206 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 5: divorced a lot. 207 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: How many divorces in total? 208 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: So my mum was married three times, divorced twice. My 209 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: dad was married twice but then also engaged a third 210 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 5: time and separated, so they were pretty much. 211 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: Married but they never actually got married. 212 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: Wow. So three and two. So what's your take on divorces? 213 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: Then? 214 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 5: I used to be very skeptical, not of divorce but 215 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 5: of marriage. So prior to meeting you, I always kind 216 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 5: of said I didn't want to get married because I 217 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: didn't think it was worth the paper that it was 218 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 5: written on. And I always was like I was never 219 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: the girl that pictured my wedding or the white dress 220 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: or any of that sort of fairy tale because it 221 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: kind of just felt like it didn't mean a lot, 222 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: I guess, And then meeting you, I don't know. We're 223 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: a very good team together, like we are. We very 224 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 5: much support each other, We work really well together. I 225 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: think we both saw marriage in a very similar way, 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 5: and I felt confident when we were together that if 227 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: sheit got hard, you would work on it. And I think, 228 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: and this is probably maybe going a bit too deep, 229 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 5: I don't know, but in my past relationships, I think 230 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 5: I always lived with a really big fear that they 231 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: were going to just leave, like that if I wasn't 232 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: pretty enough, or smart enough, or funny enough, if I 233 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 5: wasn't like always on my best game, that if we 234 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: had a fight, they would leave, you know, because anytime 235 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: we did have a fight, often they would break up 236 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: with me or it was like very tumultuous. Whereas like 237 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: with you, especially when we got pregnant. With when I 238 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: first got pregnant, your reaction to that pregnancy spoke volumes 239 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: about the person that you were. 240 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: How did I react? Again, I think I was just excited. 241 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but okay, so I mean, and like I said, 242 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: maybe this. 243 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Is because it was a surprise. It was a surprise, 244 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: which is like, thank god, you're excited. 245 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 5: But so I was in a six year relationship with 246 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 5: my ex and he basically was like, if you if 247 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 5: you ever got pregnant and you didn't have an abortion, 248 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: I'd leave you. 249 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: That's what he would say. 250 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: And he would say it so frequently that it was 251 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 5: an expectation that if I chose to not have an 252 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: abortion and he was not going to stick around for 253 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 5: the relationship. Wow, And I thought that was normal, Like, 254 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: of course I was hurt by it, but I was 255 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: so naive to how people treated each other in relationships 256 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: that I was like, Oh, that's what I'm deserving of. 257 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 5: And so when I told you that I was pregnant, 258 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: I was so worried that you were going to be 259 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: angry at me, that you were going to be like 260 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 5: this is fucked, Like how we're going to fucking manage this? 261 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: And you burst out laughing and you were so happy. 262 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 5: And I was like, this guy's is a fucking good egg? 263 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: Is a really good egg? I was, Yeah, I was, 264 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: was that right? I'm Mariam? Yeah. I think I was 265 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: similar in that. I remember. It's weird how certain situations 266 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: and conversations are those core memories in your mind. My 267 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: mum and dad split up when I was about twelve, 268 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I think eleven or twelve, and I hated. I hated 269 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: the fact that their family was being split up, even 270 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: though I can look back and I know it was 271 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: absolutely it had to happen. That it was so unhealthy 272 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: for us all to be together under the one roof. 273 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: But when you're a kid, you just you can't you 274 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: can't understand, like you know what you know, right, and 275 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: even if what you know is toxic, it's still the 276 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: safest version because it's what you're familiar with totally. 277 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: And I remember when my dad would cook the barbecue 278 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: outside on the veranda. I would always just like it 279 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: was like my job to get the tongs and get 280 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: the plate. It was always just I would be his 281 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: little helper. And I remember my dad was flipping the 282 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: steaks and he looked him and he said, mat, if 283 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: I can give you one advice in this world, it's 284 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: never get married. Oh wow, thanks dad. And I remember 285 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I was like, you're wrong. I'm going 286 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: to prove you wrong. I remember like I'm so stubborn 287 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: that I was like, I was like, no, I'm going 288 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: to do it. 289 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Are we right? 290 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to make it work. 291 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel very similar. 293 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: Like I feel like I, you know, you either repeat 294 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 5: the things that your parents did in their relationships because 295 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 5: that's your blue print, or you like really actively choose 296 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: to be different and I think even though we're not 297 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 5: perfect all the time, and we have our moments where 298 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: we will accuse each other of gaslighting each other, like 299 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 5: we are so on the same team, like we're never 300 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 5: opposing each other. And and I have, like I have 301 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: such strong faith and like reassurance and absolute, like unwavering 302 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 5: faith that even when things get really hard, like we 303 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 5: we're in it. We're in the shit together and we 304 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: will work hard to make it better. Yeah, And that 305 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 5: that's for me, is like our marriage feels very different 306 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: then to what my expectation of marriage was. 307 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Just because we're so fucking stubborn. I love you, Okay. 308 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: So at the moment Laura is away. 309 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: Oh of course, gallivanting in between the boozy lunches April's 310 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: having and the troops Laura is having, we might as 311 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: well move in together, two gay dads. 312 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: I thought you never asked, and I did. I facetimed 313 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: the other day she is working over there, she's working 314 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: very hard. But I facetimed, literally facetimed, guess where. 315 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: She was next to the pool, by the pool and. 316 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Tonic in hand, and she was like, it's between meetings. 317 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: I was. 318 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,119 Speaker 2: Meeting with Sir Jin and satonic. 319 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I was her and a sister obviously her business partner 320 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, just having a 321 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: bloody lovely time sipping G and t's by the pool. 322 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: Just part of the reason why it's not hit me 323 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: as hard is because I've got like the mum shield. 324 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because they just get on with it. 325 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: They just get on with it. A drop in one 326 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: or two degrees in temperature, and I'm like other hatshess 327 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: bed ridden, head into bed. 328 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 329 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: But so I've got like the mumshield which is deflecting. 330 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm running it like half capacity right now, and I've 331 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: got both kids. Nana is also away. 332 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: She's galimanty too. 333 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: The women in my life have deserted. 334 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: Me back to Vegas. 335 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: I's go go on to the days of us having 336 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: a hell of time. So I'm looking after both kids. 337 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: I will say the trip that we had on the 338 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: cruise ship that has helped me a great deal and 339 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: just making Lola not think I'm a piece of shit. 340 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you bonded. 341 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And now that Laura's out of the mix, she's 342 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: come back and get in the dark side. This morning 343 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: was a little bit tricky though. This morning was a 344 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: bit of a clusterfuck, if I may say that, go 345 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: for it. What happened, well, the girls have over the 346 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: last few nights because Laura has been gone for a 347 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: little while now, Lola's been waking up at two o'clockish 348 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: once a warm water. That's her jam. She gets the 349 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: warm water in a baby bottle to go back to sleep, 350 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: and then when I give it to her, she's like, 351 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I want to cuddle. As a man who's been neglected 352 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: by their child for a long period of time, who 353 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: were I knock back a cuddle? 354 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Like did you say cuddle? 355 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: She's like no, no, I'm like dragging her into my bed. 356 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: She's like, leave me alone, but I bring it into 357 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: my bed, and then Marley will then wake. 358 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: Up realize that she's not there because they share a. 359 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Room, right, they share a room. 360 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: How is the bunk beds going just really quick? 361 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: A great? 362 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have to get. 363 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: Some absolutely fantastic, highly reckon. 364 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: I don't need Macy running around as well in the 365 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: middle of the night. She's she's bad news. 366 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: I would keep the cop for as long as you can, 367 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: but when it's time to bunk beds. 368 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: Even the lid. I keep the lid on it. 369 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: No, you got me, just lock her in there, but 370 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: Marley will wake up and then she comes into our 371 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: bed and then I've got both girls in the bedroom. 372 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Issue is can I wake each other up? And then 373 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: they start chatting as well? 374 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: Are they chatting about? 375 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: Just like I don't know. Marley woke up the small morning, 376 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: I was talking about daycare. She was just like, well, 377 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: today's going to be pretty big day because we're making 378 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: these cards. And Molly was like, right, how many cards 379 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: are you making? 380 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: Scheduling in meetings? 381 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: It was five in the morning, and I was like, 382 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Marley was like, well, I'm up now, and I'm like, no, 383 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not it's in the middle of the night. 384 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like right at the cusp of like 385 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: the end of day, let's saving two, so it's so dark. 386 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: That's right. I was like, you've got to go back 387 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: to sleep. I was like, please, come on, and do 388 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what she said? Sleeping is boring. 389 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 4: She says that now, but when you get older, you're like, 390 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: I wish I could get more sleep. 391 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: It's not boring, it's the best. 392 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: So our day started at five o'clock this morning and 393 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: we had two bottles of milk in the fridge. I 394 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: used up one on the girl's breakfast. I then had 395 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: the freshy fresh bottle. You know, sometimes things happen where 396 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't register that that's a problem, and it's issue 397 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: after the fact that you're like, oh, yeah, I should 398 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: have known. But I opened the milk and it was 399 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: like I was opening a bottle of coke. I went. 400 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: The milk. You've said that the kids. 401 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: No, because they had the bottle that was finished, that 402 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: was already opened. Okay, So I opened the fresh bottle. 403 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: You never buy two at a time for starters. That 404 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: was your milk management. Terrible, terrible. 405 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: You've either got too much or not an art. 406 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: So you had some carbonated milk for breakfast and. 407 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I didn't register until I was almost like, I was 408 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: so tired, and I had one mouthful and I had 409 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: the second one. Oh, and it was it was so 410 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: fucking it was two weeks off. 411 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, was it clumpy? 412 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Not clumpy? I was in this scene vomiting. Emalia and 413 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: Laula were like, can you keep it down. 414 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: The release of gas is definitely a gay. 415 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: If you're opening up milk, you got some milk on. 416 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: So that's how my morning started with a carbonated milk. 417 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh, how are you feeling now? Yeah? 418 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Good? 419 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: You just got it straight. 420 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I vomited it all up, straight out. 421 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: You're like, that's a spicy cow. 422 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: As before we go, I just want to ask, do 423 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: you have any New Year's resolutions that you'd like to 424 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: share with everyone here? 425 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: I haven't really thought about it. 426 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: You did tell me, you did tell me that you 427 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: were going sober. 428 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh just for just for January. 429 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Try January. You're like, no, none of. 430 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: The whole year. It's not a new it's a one 431 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: month relax, relax. I do know that. 432 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 433 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: I think I want to be I think I want 434 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: to be all around healthier. I'm disgusting at the moment. 435 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm always like this at the back end of the year, 436 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm just surviving. 437 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: Look, Acknowledging the problem is the first step to recovery. 438 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: So well done. 439 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, what about you, man? What do you got now? 440 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: I'm perfect? So okay, I was going to say that 441 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: nothing to change this end. 442 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: Maybe eat a carp. 443 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll think about it. You are yoked, go promise anything 444 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: if you've enjoyed this at the and I can only 445 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: imagine that you have because We've just had so much 446 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: goodness to deliver to you in one episode. Give us 447 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: a review, find us online, and I think are we 448 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: back next week? 449 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: We will be back. 450 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with a brand new shut up. 451 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Eh really, We'll tell you what we've been up to 452 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: across at Christmas break, so we'll chat you then until then. 453 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: Until then, enjoy yourself. Goodbye bye. Two. 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