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Speaker 1: Well, you can catch Diesel at the heath Ledger Theater

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Speaker 1: Saturday March the twenty second. Tickets are through Arts Culture

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Speaker 1: trust Way, dot WA, dot gov, dot AU and Diesels

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Speaker 1: with Us.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Hey, how are you mate?

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Speaker 2: How are you good?

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Speaker 1: Tell us about this show. It's part of your bootleg

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Speaker 1: Melancholy tour and it's split into two sets. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, that's the kind of standard theater thing. Yeah, have intermission,

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Speaker 2: And I've really gotten to like it actually because it's yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always a bit sad when when the

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Speaker 2: gigs kind of just you know, it's like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: warm up, you get you get going, and then it's

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Speaker 2: sort of, oh it, so we'll finished now. So at

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Speaker 2: least with the two set thing, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: getting almost like two bites of the apple every night.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm well and truly like you know, I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm wrung it all out and I've gotten

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Speaker 2: to I wouldn't say every corner of my catalog, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean being that I'm well, I think

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Speaker 2: I'm working on my eighteenth record now, so I haven't

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of songs and a lot of singles. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: I could be like if anyone saw Prince's last arena

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Speaker 2: tour than he did before he did the piano the

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Speaker 2: piano thing. He just kept saying, he did this little

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Speaker 2: segment where he just get on the piano and he

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Speaker 2: just play song and song, and he just kept saying

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Speaker 2: in between and dispensed interspersed, I should say, with the songs,

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Speaker 2: he would just look at the audience and roll his

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Speaker 2: eyes and just go too many hits, And we like

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Speaker 2: laughed and was like, yeah, he's right. Yeah, thankfully, I

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Speaker 2: do have a lot of hits. It's not quite I'm

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Speaker 2: not like that guy and that love actually who just

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Speaker 2: has the one hit prison song or something. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean not there's anything wrong. We don't have one hit,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's yeah, it's a good problem to have.

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Speaker 3: To try to get to the record. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 3: and everyone's there for the best time. You don't really

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Speaker 3: want to leave their favorite songs outen. It happens occasionally, No.

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Speaker 2: No, there's always people that kind of get on my

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Speaker 2: socials afterwards. You know, you didn't play that song, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, I played it like the last time,

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Speaker 2: but I feel guilty. I feel you know, it's like

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Speaker 2: I want to please everybody. Of course you can't, but

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Speaker 2: we're going to get to a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of hits. Are going to play some stuff off like

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Speaker 2: Melancholy Album of course, from the second record I made

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Speaker 2: in Lockdown. And yeah, I didn't make any Saldo bread

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Speaker 2: or do any reno meeting and bassrooms. I just made records.

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Speaker 1: But this show, there's a little side note of it

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Speaker 1: being a bit of an homage to your extension of

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Speaker 1: your arm the guitar. You're a maiten is it mating guitar,

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Speaker 1: isn't you? I'm pretty sure I've seen you playing well.

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Speaker 2: I've got many little mini matens and now that have

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Speaker 2: really done amazing things to the world. There's people playing

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Speaker 2: them that probably don't have an absolute floggist of who

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Speaker 2: I am. And that's the testament of a great product,

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Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, in this case, Fender I've gotten

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Speaker 2: on board and we're giving away a stratocaster in each town.

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Speaker 2: It was something I actually we did something when twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen fires devastated the whole country and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of volunteer fire is that we're suffering from PTSD. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were suffering from PTSD if they

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Speaker 2: lived in the bush. And so we did this thing

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Speaker 2: necessarily like exclusive just to musicians. Anyone can pete up

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Speaker 2: that's the whole that's the whole message that I'm giving

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Speaker 2: away a guitar in each town that we play in,

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Speaker 2: and one lucky person is going to win a lesson

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Speaker 2: with me. Where I'm actually I've I've already resigned the

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Speaker 2: fact that I could actually end up being someone who

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Speaker 1: Me a funny count by stuff that's going to be awesome.

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Speaker 3: That's unreal, mate. I remember the first time I went,

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Speaker 2: It's a good feeling, you know, guitar. I always say,

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Speaker 2: stop tuning the guitar. First, yes, don't don't do that

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Speaker 2: guitar because unless you're Lightning Hopkins or Muddy Waters and

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Speaker 2: that sounds really cool, you're not going to sound good.

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Speaker 1: I've always hated the fact I've never had the patience

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Speaker 1: to learn a musical instrument diesel. My My music peaked

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Speaker 1: with my grandmother's lowry organ. You know, remember those things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny as you'd mention that. Because my grandma,

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Speaker 2: for the whole day. Sometimes I'd have a sleepover and

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 3: But I remember seeing you several years that going now

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Speaker 3: at Friends restaurant when before Friends moved, when I was

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Speaker 3: at the Height Center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was one of a crazy little gig.

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Speaker 3: Did show you blew the roof off?

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Speaker 2: It played?

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Speaker 3: It was unreal. But I was watching you not only

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Speaker 3: may have been a guitarist watching you. Do you see

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Speaker 3: you're doing with your fingers right? And do you see that?

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Speaker 3: A lot You've seen musos down the front.

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Speaker 2: I see people. I can always tell, even if if

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Speaker 2: I don't like it sounds crazy, but I made me

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Speaker 1: We're having a bit of a situation here at the

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Speaker 1: of closing duit noise complaints even though they were there first? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how important live music venues to the industry.

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Speaker 2: It's I think it's a really you know, pathetic thing

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Speaker 2: And it's like, especially when it all shuts off at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's are free so it's so important. It's well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great venue.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that.

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Speaker 2: When I think of that venue, I think of a

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Speaker 2: venue that's been purpose built for music exactly. You know,

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Speaker 2: you feel the love as soon as you open the doors.

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Speaker 1: And it was first end of you're right that, before

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Speaker 1: that story there, before the hotel next door.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, all I can say is get some

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Speaker 2: get some swimmers, ear plugs. If you live that closer

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Speaker 2: it bothers you at night, Put silicon in your ears

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Speaker 2: and it'll be all over by eleven thirty or something. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: There won't be any problem with this at the heath A.

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Speaker 1: Ledger Theater on Saturday, March the twenty second. Tickets are

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Speaker 1: through Arts Culture Trust Dot w A dot dot a

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Speaker 1: U for Diesel Bootleg Melancholy, A story in two parts.

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Speaker 3: We look forward to it and the beautiful sound.

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Speaker 2: All I've heard is good things about the heath Ledger.

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Speaker 3: And looking for it around incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because God knows, I've played some places

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Speaker 2: that don't sound so great and I have to pretend

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Speaker 2: that it's good. Like I can literally say I haven't

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Speaker 2: played a toilet, but I've played a bowling alley, played

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Speaker 2: close up you know things. I felt like a Greyhound

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Speaker 2: that are all just concrete and glass, so there's.

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Speaker 3: Bouncing that like purpose and beautiful, not like concert halls.

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Speaker 3: Terrivic Mate, thanks for chatting to good to check over

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Speaker 3: to see what he played.

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