1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: Daily This is the Daily. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 3: Ohs oh, now it makes sense. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: the fourteenth of November. I'm Sam Kazlowski. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm Lucy Tussel. 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: More than twenty thousand pages of documents have been released 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: by US politicians revealing emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: himself that suggest President Donald Trump knew about his abuse 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: of young women. It has led to Trump, as well 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: as other members of his administration, facing growing criticism about 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: how the White House has handled the Epstein files, with 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: some of Trump's own Republican supporters and members now calling 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: for more transparency. On today's podcast, Lucy and I are 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: going to break down what these emails actually say, why 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: they're causing division within the Republican Party, and what this 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: all means for Trump going forward. 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Sam, before we get into the new emails, the new data, 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: take me back to the start. Who is Jeffrey Epstein 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: and why are we still talking about him? 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: So? 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was a wealthy businessman who was arrested in 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen on federal sex trafficking charges. Investigators found that 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: he had been paying teenage girls money to perform sex acts, 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: and that he'd been doing so for many years. His 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: former girlfriend, Glene Maxwell, was charged with helping him abuse 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: these girls. Epstein died by suicide in his cell out 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: of federal jail in New York about a month after 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: he was arrested in twenty nineteen, and Maxwell, the former girlfriend, 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: was later convicted and is currently serving a twenty year 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: prison sentence for sex trafficking. But the reason this case 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: has never really gone away is because of who Epstein 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: surrounded himself with. So he was friends with presidents, with 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: royals or now former royals, billionaires, celebrities, really powerful people 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: from all around the world world. And there's always been 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: this one question surrounding Jeffrey Epstein. Did any of these 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: other powerful people know about or participate in his crimes? 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: And we believe current US President Donald Trump was one 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: of these connections, one of these powerful people in Epstein's orbit. 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's one of those news stories that has 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: followed Trump around almost since he kind of went down 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: that escalator and started his aim at being president way 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: back in I think it was twenty fourteen. So Trump 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: said that he and Epstein were friends for about fifteen years, 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: starting in the eighties. There are many photographs of them 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: together at parties in New York throughout the nineties and 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: early two thousands. Trump even told New York Magazine in 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and two that Epstein was quote a terrific 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: guy who quote likes beautiful women as much as I do, 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: many of them on the younger side. 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a direct quote from Donald Trump. 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Yes, and so Trump then says though that he had 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: a falling out with Epstein around two thousand and four 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: because Epstein was hiring spa attendance from his Marra A 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Lago golf club. Trump has emphatically denied any involvement in 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: or knowledge of Epstein's sex trafficking operation. 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: So what has happened to bring all this back into 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: the headlines. 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: So there's a committee of politicians called the House Oversight Committee, 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: which is basically a little investigative body made up of 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans into the connections between Jeffrey Epstein and 62 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: any members of the US political establishment. And on Wednesday, 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: that committee released three emails from Epstein or to Epstein 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: that they say raise more serious questions about what Trump new. 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: So These emails were selected from thousands of documents obtained 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: by the committee from Epstein's state. It's commonly referred to 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: as the Epstein Files. I want to walk through each 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: of these emails because the details really matter here. So 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: the first email is from April of twenty eleven. So 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Epstein wrote to Glen Maxwell and said, quote, I want 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: you to really that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: He then wrote that an unnamed victim quote spent hours 73 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: at my house with him, being Trump, he has never 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: once been mentioned. 75 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Republicans on the committee quickly identified this victim as Virginia Giffrey, 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: so the name was originally redacted, and then through kind 78 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: of politicians releasing other documents, it was Virginia Geffrey, who 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: died by suicide in April this year. Now, importantly, Geoffrey 80 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: has previously said in a twenty sixteen deposition that she 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't think Trump participated in anything illegal and that she 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: had never seen Trump participate in sexual abuse at Epstein's home. 83 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so this twenty eleven email from Epstein says Trump 84 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: spent time at his house with a victim. The victim 85 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: in question has separately said I never saw Trump do 86 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: anything wrong. Yeah, that's the implication from Republicans exactly. 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: And the problem here is that there hasn't been any 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: sort of kind of proper legal process in interrogating the email. 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Media can't verify the email. It's very hard to kind 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: of go anywhere further than what is in front of 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: us in this single a four page of an email, 92 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: and that's a bit of attention, but it gives lots 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: of new lines of questioning for this committee. The second 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: email is from January twenty fifteen, so this is the 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: lead up to the twenty sixteen presidential election, and there's 96 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: an author, Michael Wolfe, who had a personal relationship with 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Michael Wolfe emails Epstein that CNN was planning 98 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to ask Trump about the relationship between Trump and Epstein 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: in a televised presidential debate in the lead up to 100 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: that presidential election, which Trump then won. Epstein asked how 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Trump should respond, and Wolfe basically advised him to let 102 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Trump quote hang himself if he denied being close with Epstein, 103 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: because that would then give Jeffrey Epstein something to have 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: a bit of leverage over this future presidential candidate. And 105 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: so the third email then is from January twenty nineteen, 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: so Trump is president now, Epstein tells Wolfe the author again, 107 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Trump said he asked me to resign, which is in 108 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: reference to Epstein's membership at the Marlago Golf Club, because 109 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: he asked Glaine to stop. That's a direct quote, and 110 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: that's a reference to Glaine Maxwell trying to recruit young 111 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: women who worked at the golf club for Epstein. Yeah, 112 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: and then there's this really important bit. The email from 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: Epstein says, of course, he, being Trump knew about the girls. 114 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: So that's essentially Epstein himself alleging in an email that 115 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Trump knew about the abuse, which is a claim that 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: Trump has denied. 117 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: Speaking of Trump, how has the White House responded to 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: these email drops? 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: So the White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt got on 120 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: the front foot. She said that they were quote, selectively 121 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: released emails meant to smear the president. She pointed to 122 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: Virginia Giffray's past statements about Trump, and this is what 123 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: she said. 124 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: The emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that 125 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: President Trump did nothing wrong. Miss Guffrey maintained and God 126 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: rest her soul that she maintained that there was nothing inappropriate. 127 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: She ever witnessed that President Trump was always extremely professional 128 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: and friendly to her, And so I think it's a 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: question worth asking the Democrat Party, and you should all 130 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: go ask them after this briefing of why they chose 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: to redact that name of a victim who has already 132 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: publicly made statements about her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is 133 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: and is unfortunately no longer with us. 134 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: You also mentioned at the top of this episode that 135 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: this is causing problems within Trump's own party, and we 136 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: have briefly touched on this on the podcast in the past. 137 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: What's happening now? 138 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: So I think to understand the current state of the 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Republican Party and their position on the Epstein files, you 140 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: need to go back to Trump's campaign. And in Trump's campaign, 141 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: he really pushed for the Epstein files to be released, 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: and the argument that he put to supporters was that 143 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: if there were these files released, a client list, a 144 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: list of who was on planes going to Epstein's island 145 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: that would include high profile Democrats and kind of expose 146 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: the corruption behind the scenes, and particularly people like Bill 147 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton who used Epstein's services or allegedly used 148 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Epstein services. This was a really major rallying point for 149 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: the core of his base. But then after he took office, 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: Trump's Justice Department backtracked, and in July this year, the 151 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: FBI and the Attorney General said there wasn't a client 152 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: list and that no more files would be released because 153 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: there's no need to. But now with all of these 154 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: emails being released, with further speculation about Trump's involvement and 155 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: relationship with Epstein, there are four Republican members of Congress 156 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: who have signed a petition to force a House vote 157 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: on releasing all the Epstein files to the public. 158 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: When's that vote going to happen or what's going on 159 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: with that vote? 160 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: So if a majority of House members, So if two 161 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen members of the House sign what's called 162 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: a discharge petition, it makes the Justice Department release documents. 163 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: So in this case, it would have to release the 164 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: full files on Jeffrey Epstein. And until very recently, the 165 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: petition was one signature short of two hundred and eighteen signatures, 166 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: and that's the threshold it requires to force a vote. 167 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: There were two hundred and seventeen. There four Republicans and 168 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen Democrat signatures, but the House gained 169 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: one extra member yesterday. 170 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: How'd that happen? 171 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, Speaker Mark Johnson finally swore in Representative 172 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: Adelita Grajalva, a Democrat from Arizona. She won a special 173 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: election seven weeks ago, so that can be an election 174 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: if a member steps down or retires. But Johnson had 175 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: refused to actually confirm her position during the government shutdown, 176 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: so Democrats said it actually wasn't the government shutdown, it 177 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: was her stance on the Epstein files that kept her out, 178 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: and sure enough, as her first act in office, she 179 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: actually signed the petition as the two hundred and eighteenth 180 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: and decisi signature. 181 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: So the petition has been signed, but a vote still 182 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: needs to happen, which Trump doesn't want to happen. 183 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Right exactly, And according to the New York Times, the 184 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: White House held a meeting in the Situation Room on 185 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Wednesday with those four Republicans who had said that they 186 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: would vote for the files to be released. Yeah, there 187 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: was the Attorney General, Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash Patel. 188 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: They all gathered in the room to try and convince 189 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: them to remove their names from the petition, which I'll 190 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: tell you in a secon they actually can't do. But 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: then it's about probably the vote, and they want them 192 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: to not vote for the files to be released. And 193 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I think it's significant that the meeting took place in 194 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: the Situation Room. I mean that's a room that's normally 195 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: reserved for high level crises, military operations. You know, taking 196 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: out Osama bin Laden is a classic example. So using 197 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: it for lobbying members of Congress about the Epstein files 198 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: does show how seriously the White House is taking this. Yeah. 199 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: The one interesting point about the signature I wanted to 200 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: tell you about is, according to very nuanced, specific nerdy 201 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: rules of Congress, once you sign a petition of this nature, 202 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: you can't unsign it. So even if the member dies 203 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: or resigns, the signature stands. So you can assume that 204 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Trump's lobbying was more about how they're going to vote 205 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: in this vote, rather than getting them to kind of 206 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: unsign something or withdraw their support. 207 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and now the vote is going to actually happen. 208 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: It is actually going to happen. The latest from Mike Johnson, 209 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: the Speaker, says it could happen as early as next week. 210 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: But even if it does pass the House, it would 211 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: then probably fail in the Senate. And then even if 212 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: it passes the Senate, Trump would probably veto it. But 213 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: the political damage for Republicans of having to vote in 214 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: public on this bill, especially when they're under pressure from 215 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: their own constituents. They just had a very bad showing 216 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: in the special elections, including in New York and New Jersey, 217 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: in Virginia. It's bad timing. And Trump has been very 218 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: angry about this. He posted on truth Social that quote, 219 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into 220 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: the trap of supporting the Epstein files release. And he's 221 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: calling it a democratic distraction. 222 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: But there are still his own supporters pushing for this to. 223 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Happen, right, Yeah. And take one of the four Republicans 224 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: is Marjorie Taylor Green, for example, who is known for 225 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: being a very rusted on maga, you know, quite extreme 226 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: in some of her view's supporter of Trump. She's advocating 227 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: for the release of the files, and she's got a 228 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of influence over the kind of Republican base in America. 229 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: And it does look like Trump is caught between This 230 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: campaign promised to expose corruption and the reality that with 231 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: every disclosure there's more damage being done to him personally. 232 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned there'll be a vote next week before that 233 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: has to happen. The government has now in the last 234 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: twenty four hours, yeah, voted to reopen for government. 235 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Yep. 236 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Where do we go from here? 237 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: So there's a bit of a backlog of work now 238 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: that the government has officially reopened. But I think that 239 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: the Epstein discussion is going to be really high on 240 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: the agenda. 241 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for explaining all of that, Sam. 242 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: It's a very meaty topic with a lot of background 243 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: to cover. 244 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: And I mean we say this a bit, but it's 245 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: no more true than right now. This is only the 246 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: beginning of this story. 247 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, somehow, yes, and we will be keeping a very 248 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: close eye on it. Thank you so much for joining 249 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: us today on the Daily Oz. 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